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How to Defeat Bayern: a Tactical Overview

In my last article on Bayern Munich I promised a tactical overview for the CL final.

What follows is only my personal opinion, but I`d like to believe that my opinion is based upon a reasonable amount of knowledge regarding Bayern`s own tactics, its collective philosophy, its individual players, and the decision-making of their manager, Jupp Heynckes.

I`d like to start with Jupp Heynckes. He was a striker in his day—a great one, in fact—and he wholeheartedly advocates attacking football. As a manager he has worked for over thirty years, the majority of which has taken place in Germany, though he`s also worked in Spain and Portugal. Most notably, he won the Champions League with Real Madrid in the late 90s. That`s important: as a manager Jupp Heynckes has won a CL trophy.

Heynckes` career with Bayern has been a strange one. He managed the club for four years (1987-1991), returned as a caretaker manager after Klinsmann`s sacking in 2009, and finally got the job after Bayern lost patience with the completely bonkers Van Gaal in 2011. As a manager he has won seven trophies—not a huge haul in such a long career, but his longevity suggests ample experience that dwarfs Roberto Di Matteo`s career.

Now let`s look at how Bayern plays. Generally it`s a 4-2-3-1, and I fully anticipate that lineup in the CL final. I expect the following: Neuer/ Rafinha, Boateng, Tymo, Lahm/ Kroos, Schweini/ Robben, Muller, Ribery / Gomez. There is a very slight chance that Van Buyten will start over Tymo, but I highly doubt it. Bayern doesn`t have great options from the bench. Olic may feature if Bayern needs a goal late on.

Under RDM, we`ve seen the benefits of this system. If used properly, it screens the defense but also enables quick counter-attacks. Schweinsteiger, who`s still not 100% from an injury, will run the show from midfield. He`ll be paired with Toni Kroos, who will likely get forward when he can, much like Lampard. If we can pressure those two, Bayern`s attack will be severely compromised. This system relies heavily on wingers—and Bayern have some of the world`s best. Robben and Ribery both have pace and guile; both are also good crossers of the ball. Similarly, when Lahm gets forward, he can put in a perfect cross. If you ever marvel at the scoring records of Mario Gomez but still feel he`s not an elite striker, consider that he has players around him who are experts at putting the ball at his head or at his feet. If you can stop Bayern`s wide play and force them to operate in narrow spaces, they will have problems.

Bayern also has a tendency to play with a high defensive line. You need quick CBs to make this happen—and this is partly what killed them against Dortmund, a squad with loads of pace and who can pass with a kind of ruthless efficacy you`ll rarely encounter in football. To make matters worse for Bayern, Tymoshchuk will likely play CB. As a DM, he isn`t quick and he`s relatively short. But he is a smart player and a good tackler; he`s just not a CB. Boateng doesn`t exactly inspire Bayern supporters either—a capable player but prone to lapses of concentration.

Chelsea strangled Barca`s width and forced them to operate centrally. We saw the result. But the result was only made possible because the Chelsea players were tactically disciplined and they managed to shoot with amazing efficiency. Plenty has to go right to pull off that kind of strategy.

Considering our success against Barca, will Chelsea employ the same plan? I think we will, though because Bayern`s midfield isn`t as strong as Barca`s we`ll get more of the ball. That is both good and bad depending on what we do with it. Bayern can counterattack as well as anyone (Dortmund and Real Madrid are the exception, in my opinion). If we give away the ball we will be in trouble. Bayern are also good on set pieces. Robben, Kroos, Schweini, Ribery, Lahm—they can all create problems. Gomez, of course, is strong in the air. I want Cahill to mark Gomez on set pieces.

Chelsea will line up in a 4-2-3-1. My expectation, assuming that Cahill and David Luiz return, is that we`ll see: Cech / Bosingwa, Cahill, David Luiz, Cole/ Mikel, Lampard/ Torres, Mata, Kalou/ Drogba. I do believe Torres and Drogba will both play, but that primarily amounts to a lack of options. Danny is too sloppy in his passing, Malouda is generally a disaster (and he`s nursing an injury anyway), and Ramires isn`t available.

If one of Cahill and David Luiz can`t make the final, Bosingwa will be placed centrally and Paulo Ferreira will play at RB. Not ideal, though Bosingwa is strangely more reliable at CB than he is at RB. If neither can make it, well, I`d rather not even entertain that idea.

So I`ve written plenty about what we can do to stop Bayern—let`s look briefly at what we can do in attack. First and foremost: get Drogba the ball. He`s strong and he`s brutal in big matches. He can bully Bayern`s CBs. Torres will probably play as a RW and drift in centrally. If he starts at LW the same idea can be applied. I`d like to see DD and Torres exchange space, to drift centrally when the other player moves out wide.

The benefit of this is it creates confusion among an already confused Bayern defense; also, if we can keep the ball, it will keep Lahm occupied—and that is a very good thing. Lahm will want to get forward and cross the ball. Stop Lahm and you hurt Bayern on the left side. You in turn hurt Ribery, who will play ahead of Lahm. Mikel has a hugely important role, especially if we`re missing one of our natural CBs. He will have to help to start the attack but he`ll also need to keep a careful eye on Muller, a player who can run forever and who knows how to find space inside the box. I`d like to see Lampard feed the ball as much as possible to Mata, our playmaker who has thus far not excelled in the CL. I think it`s down to fatigue and he`ll be well-rested by Saturday. Bayern don`t have any obvious defensive answer for Mata; and if their defense is sweating any of DD, Torres, or Kalou, Mata is clever enough to exploit space left behind.

If you`ve read this far, I thank you for your patience. I feel as if I`ve barely scratched the surface here! The reality is that every Chelsea player will have to be at his best. For the love all things holy, we need Bosingwa to show concentration against Ribery. We need Cech to be as alert as ever. We need Cole to annoy Robben. We need our CBs to be fit! We need young Mata to have the game of his life. I could go on and on. And for those who feel really confident about the final, think again. Bayern`s performance against Dortmund was a massive embarrassment for them—it rightly suggests a major blow to their domestic superiority. This is both good and bad for Chelsea. Bayern don`t take lightly to be embarrassed. In the second round of the CL they lost away to FC Basel 1-0. At the return leg they won 7-0. An angry Bayern is a dangerous side to contend with. They will rightly be nervous against Chelsea; they will also feel tremendous pressure to deliver at home. But they will be prepared. Make no mistake of that. This is a side that got past Mourinho`s Real Madrid. Do not underestimate them.

It`s been a bizarre season. The final for us represents not only our first Champions League trophy. If we win it, we trump Tottenham for fourth spot in next year`s tournament. For many of our players, this is likely their last shot at the CL trophy. If we win it, RDM may actually keep his job. Winning the CL will also make a difference in our transfer dealings this summer; it will certainly make a difference with pressures from the FFP looming. We win, we win big. We lose, we lose big. I won`t be sleeping the night before!



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Writer: RadioactiveD Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday May 16 2012

Time: 5:00AM

Your Comments

Id like to think Dortmund showed us the way to beat bayern.
Blue1989
Mikel will have to mark Robben when he drifts in on his left. He's not a touchline hugger, he loves to come in on his left to try to put it in the far corner. Mikel will have to stop these kinds of runs from him.
FrLamp
What about Essien and Mikel in defensive mid, Lampard in the hole and Mata on the wings?Better than Kalou or Torres out there to be honest with you.
FrLamp
This is absolutely compelling stuff. Brilliant work.
Drogba2891
FrLamp.Mta is best in the hole.We do not want him to waste his abilities on the wing.Moreover,Essien is not in the best of forms.How about Sam Hutchinson at RB?
cfc250
*Mata
cfc250
Good article but I'd rather play ferreira at RB,I do not trust Bosingwa.
HafeezCFC
How can we forget that burst of pace from Fernando to overtake Lahm when he scored the winner for Spain against Germany to lift EURO 2008!!!
San Medu
Nice analysis. Torres tracking back to cover the Boswinga/Ribery duel sounds risky, unless you Torres on left covering Cole/Robben?
Pantisocrates
@RADIOACTIVE...I'd rather we go for a 4-3-1-2 formation (the 2 side-men in the defensive 3 will play a little wider) in the following order: Cech, Luiz (yes, at RB) Bosingwa (he's been better at CB) Cahill (solid like Terry but more agile) Cole (no brainer) Sturridge (yes at RM, way better threat than Kalou will ever be for Chelsea) ( Romeu (Mikel's too slow and will unnecessarily hold the ball, Romeu's moves the ball faster and can tackle, Essien is finished) Lamps (left side, he'll definitely play any ways) Mata (no brainer) Drogba (I'm sure he'll be hyped for it and will lessen the burden on Torr-Mentor) Torr-mentor (has to play in this final or else even if we win RDM will have signed his departure form)...I know Sturridge won't defend as much but this is a 1-off final and we can't go defensive and hand Bayern the mental initiative, we don't have Ramires for counter-attacking effectively so we'll need Sturridge's pace and threat...
@Mq
We need torres and drogba to play together..That 4me is the key to beat bayern and wèe need playful kalou to äconcentrate...Mata needs to be fired up for this game.........And i'l break the tv if bossman turns his back on ribery!!
Desmondadonis
@mq romeu for mikel in a final? Goodness me....So many flaws in ur lineup if u ask me......
Desmondadonis
Nice one Radio! Hafeez, like you I would prefer Paulo, give him a job to do (stick close to Ribery at all times) and he will carry out the task, whereas Bossman does not have that level of concentration. Mata has to stay in the hole, that's where he can do most damage. The big question is who plays instead of Rami, it has to be Torres, he never played one minute in FA Cup final, he has to get some time on the biggest stage in Club competition. If he doesn't, his confidence, which is fragile this season, will take a huge turn for the worst. He can do real damage to BM if he is on his game, and he will at least tackle and track back, Sturridge won't.
BlueABS
Cech,ferreira,luiz,cahill,cole,mikel,lampard,mata,torres,drogba,kalou....Kalou can swap with torres and torres with drogba....
Desmondadonis
@ Desmond - MQ is just being controversial again to get attention. Sturridge at RM, LOL, he's having a real giraffe. Luiz does not work at all at RB, Romeu instead of Mikel (as you shouted) !?!?. With his risky line-up, it's just as well he is not the manager.
BlueABS
Yea,blue abs i'l take ferreira over bossman anyday....But the only disadvantage is that ferreira dont have pace.....I'l field my strongest lineup on this one...And a game with bayern is usually settled between 90mins.
Desmondadonis
We have to make sure both Robben & Ribery are double-handled all the time, which means Kalou & Torres have to do a lot of tracking back. Mikel & Lamps are going to have to be very mobile laterally across the line as well, not something intuitively one would think is in their make-up, but they both did fantastic against Barca, more of the same please.
BlueABS
Guys,why not Hutchinson at RB?
cfc250
Desmond - whoever is RB / LB will need help against the likes of Ribery & Robben. It applies equally to Ashley as to whoever at RB. Yes, Paulo isn't the quickest, but he is reliable and stays focused, i can't recall him letting us down when given a task. Kalou has been very good of late helping Ashley, and with Lamps just inside, that should take care of Robben. The other side is a little more dicey, but for me, Robben poses a slightly bigger threat than Ribery. Expect Robben to start wandering into the middle if he gets little joy on the right. Ribery on the whole will stick out left.
BlueABS
@DESMOND...I understand your 'concerns' about Romeu but Mikel has ben extremely slow against fast-closing teams (Barca for instance) and the reckless tackles he tends to make when he's been left "flatfooted" by more agile and faster players (hardly any player is slower than Mikel) so in the Bayern game he will be our Achilles heel, *mark my words*
@Mq
BLUE-ABS for the sake of progress this is the only response you'll get from me today (but to label my opinion as "attention-seeking" is akin to insult)...
@Mq
the biggest attention seeker on this is forum is by far bueabs. u disgust me with your need for drama. now mq is gnna retaliate and once again you will reck a healthy debate of the article with your back and forward nonsense. stop prevoking others just to get your daily dose of drama
sayWHAT!
just so you know if Torres doesn't start on Saturday, regardless of the result RDM won't manage Chelsea next season...(a Stamford Bridge source who does.....for Gourlay told me)
@Mq
Well i agree to radio and think his is the most probable line up. MY TAKE ON WINGS:Chelsea will dearly miss the defensive zest of Ramires on the right side and imo replacing ramires with torres will put a whole lot of burden on our RB(bossman or paulo) and RCDM(LAMPARD).So if Slo Mou is indeed fit it wont be too bad too play him on LW and help out our LB(Cole)and LCDM (Mikel).. Kalou can play at RW and work his socks off for 55-60 mins and depending upon the situation we can put on essien/torres in place for kalou or malouda. MY TAKE ON OUR RIGHT BACK: While bossman has frequent lapses of concentration but that can be attributed to his attacking play and unwillingness to head the ball.He doesnt deal well with the diagonal balls behind him and that can be exploited by ribery who can cross,turn inside and shoot(like giggs,young have done to constantly bully him in recently).Paulo doesn't have the legs or pace to place himself above bossman and him not playing recently shows he may not be in contention for 19th so it brings it to my final and favourite candidate for the RB slot,ESSIEN,even if essien cannot provide the legs of 05/06(ramiresque) i still believe he is the best player in our ranks that can replicate ivanovic like performance(simple yet effective,he can also be useful incase of booking changing tactics)
ha17sun
many suggest Hutchinson at RB, okay i agree at some extent, as Bosingwa is disaster waiting to happen, but than Hutchinson barely played for us this season, he played all his game in the reserve, and this is CL final totally different occasion and to think he have to cope with Ribery making me afraid, remember Ribery itself has already 30 assist
chelsea44
*ribery himself
chelsea44
ribery is on grazy form, wished we had him
sayWHAT!
Good article. Winning means everything. Champions League next season, a trophy, THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE ITSELF, players achieving their goals, more money, bigger reputation, attracting top players.
ucmyway
I'll agree with @ha17sun,as much as I'd like Ferreira at RB,I don't think RDM would play him,he will opt for Bosingwa instead,Essien is another more reliable player than bossman though Essien was continually beaten by Ronaldo in 2008.
HafeezCFC
dont care about bayern (two man team with Robbery) - we have to be confident and put out mark at this game! WE ARE CHELSEA! We have this Drogba up front! Nobody form bayern can stop this Ivorian Monstership!
austriablue
@ha19sun....I am consistently amazed by people on this forum who wants Malouda played because he provides somthing defensively...this is not correct...judging by his last two seasons with us...while there are numerous examples,...the second liverscum goal in our home league game against liverpool which we lost 2-1 this season is a perfect example of what you can get when you give a player like Malouda a defensive duty to protect the full back...I dont have to stress my self though...I dont think he will be fit for the final which I am super happy about even though i wish him a quick recovery. Essien at right back?....disaster!....even he 2008 when Essien was the bison he had to be at his best to cope Ronaldo....the present Essien is a lot slower and slower when turning...plus he nows takes a wee longer on the ball before making decisions...so if he is to play at all...he has to play in the middle of the pitch.... Our right back position will be our only identifiable weakness against bayern...and its a tough call...my take on it is to play Bosingwa....I think his performance has been poor...but on certain occasion he does play well...it'll be a gamble and I hope pays off..and I will prefer to play Kalou in front of him...not because Kalou is super...but because he is a lot more desciplined defensively and of course a lot faster than Malouda...If bossman is not working, we should sub in Ferreira...This match in my opinion will be too soon for Hutch....My explanation obviously implies FT9 will start from the bench which I really do not like...but its probably better for the team....Kalou will give more than FT9 defensively....and for this game, I honestly will pick him ahead of both Malouda and Danny.
layorh12
Just read another review on the chelsea site by Frank Arnesen.Similar to Radio's here.Our defence will certainly have to work harder than our attack.
HafeezCFC
Bosingwa was solid at CB against Barca and in the next match he played CB (don't remember the team we were playing) that's why I'd rather we draft him at CB and Luiz on the wings because Luiz at CB is (honestly) a disaster waiting to happen, especially against the "Gomez-fox"...Hutch won't play, he isn't match fit for such a big game...Malouda will (against all our wishes) play because RDM always goes for "experience" so I hope he play well (otherwise prepare for garbage-material performance)...Mikel most likely will play (although I'd have gone for Romeu as he's more agile and "sees" a good pass which will be needed to counter Bayern like Dortmund did)...I'd prefer Sturridge over Kalou (we need to "peg" Bayern back and for all Kalou's "defensive prowess" he's hardly a threat going forward and this is 1 match we cannot play defensive)...Torr-mentor simply has to play (not because he's my fav player but he deserves starting a big game even over Kalou or Sturridge, he didn't start the FA Cup fgs and he's 1 threat Bayern will be "aware" of thereby "keeping them mentally occupied" together with DD)
@Mq
@layorh14 i somewhat agree to you in regards of "bison" vs cr7 but ronaldo is different to ribery since he doesn't possess the same physical strength compared to cr7 moreover in 08 ballack and makelele played as the shield with lampard (they both didn't have the legs and in that game essien had to content with an attacking quartet of rooney,tevez,cr7,heargreaves)whilst essien did dissapoint but bossman and paulo have been undone by average sides such as sunderland,wigan and villa in recent seasons (bosingwa likely to start by the looks) ... Mate somehow you have forgotten our game with internaziole when ashley was out and zhirkov was LB malouda totally worked off his socks that night and also played as LB when zhirkov was off(i am a hater of malouda and disliked him during avb period but in the current circumstances he isn't THE WORST option imo )
ha17sun
@Mq did u watch romeu vs liv recently he looked out of sorts ...couldn't keep the ball and was hesitating in challenges mikel gives us the solidity and romeu being more mobile may leave lampard or CB's suspect to a break
ha17sun
Excellent article Radioactive. I also think that Mata will be key to this match. In fact I actually think he will be as influential as he was in the FA cup final.
ChelsinSpain
@Ha17sun....I remembered the game you are referring to...but it is not the same thing when Malouda plays as a left back and when he is asked to offer CONSISTENT cover for the left...in the first scenario, he is a full back and that is it...in the second scenario, he is supposed to play as a winger with the added responsibility of doubling on the opposing winger together. EVERYTIME Malouda looses the ball as a winger...he just strolls...he has got no pace to recover the ball....that player like Valencia, Demaria, Nani will easily recover...watching him stroll back when he looses the ball thus starting a counter attack for our opponents is one of th gorry scenarios I have had to live with as a chelsea supporter....He cant start in front of our full back at Munich...'ll take Kalou anyday....kalou starting has a higher probability of happening...
layorh12
Despite Bossman negativity this year..i think this will be his best game so far for Chelsea and the last of all...playin sturridge will destroy the entire game plan,,oh c'mon this is not a talent or an exhibition match..sturridge will be playin for fame as he has always done...FT9 wil be more effective..he realy needs 2 start the final...GOD help us!
vicken
Still no article on Bayern's perceived home ground advantage!
Blue Day
@Mq....Luiz at center back is not a disaster waiting to happen....as there is no basis to arrive at this conclusion...Bosingwa will not start as a CB...I am sure you know that....I agree with you on Hutch....Malouda I am 150% certain will not start even if he is fit...RDM is a smart bloke...he has never started Malouda in any important game we've played because he knows his weaknesses...the best he has used Malouda is as a sub...Mikel will play because hate him or like him he is the best DM we have got at the moment (based on current form..he is better than ROmeu I am sorry)...Kalou exhumes more overall maturity compared to Danny, while danny might be more talented, kalou is more discliplined defensively...and since I am suggesting Bossman starts at right back as opposed to Luiz...Kalou will be a better fit..just to add...Danny has not done much to in recent weeks to show he deserves to start in Munich....so i dont think he should or will start..while I agree that Kalou will most definately leave the club during the summer and Danny is for the future....Munich is a one-off...and Kalou will do a better job than Danny...on the day
layorh12
@layor12 i think we may be on the same page...i believe kalou can give more on RW when helping our suspect RB position rather than our stronger LB position.in concept similar to King Ram7.. P.S 1)Kalou doesn't have the technique to come inside and have a meaningful shot on target ,imo he can help bossingwa and play at right and by his speed he can put some telling balls into the box hopefully. 2)Torres wont have to do extra cover whilst playing on left (same goes for slo mo if he plays at LW)so if we want to attack LW is best and without lahm(at bayern right side)we may just open 'em up
ha17sun
putting hutchinson at RB is 2 times more risk than putting bosingwa at his place.depend on how poor u rate bosingwa but replace him with an inexperienced player in this surely high intensity game is not a right move.and putting essien there is much worst.he's NOT A RIGHT BACK.bosingwa is a poor defender,but surely he can't be poorer than those 2.if u remember at 2009,he did a decent job keeping messi quiet while play out position at LEFT BACK in NOU CAMP.i'm not his fan,even i too don't like him.but in current situation when we don't have a choice,he's the one we can rely on at RB.we can still depend on him as long as RDM not ask him to attack,he can do a decent job at defensive area..
Chelsea n Torres Fan
@ha17sun....I totally agree with your last post...nice chats!
layorh12
@Ha17sun...I think from our gist...a probable line up will be Pete.... Bossman--Luiz--Cahill...Cole Mikel Lamps Kalou Mata Torres Drogba In my opinion, this team can definitely do the job in Munich.
layorh12
@layorh12 i can certainly see RDM agreeing with us :) but i fear that if we do concede who will come off the bench to help us sturiddge has undone his fine work early in the season ,we will dearly miss our hero ramires n ivanociv who can both score in difficult circumstances(iva at SB vs napoli and Ram @ we know when)
ha17sun
@ha17sun...looool....a secondary tot which I am NOT very comfortable with is to start Danny at the left side of Midfield and start Torres on the bench...with Danny main responbility being to run down the energy of whoever plays at right back ( I am assuming it wont be Lahm)....after say 50-60minutes...Bring in Torres....to do the damage...the more we analyse this game...the more i honestly feel Beyern is beatable...the more I examine the line-ups., it becomes more obvious that Bayern greatest strength is on the width of the field I mean the wings...even the goals against Madrid came from the wings...one from a corner kick, the other from a low drivee from the right side...so its looking like..clip the wing...and the job is half done...I can easilly say we will cancel them out in the middle of the pitch...and of course Boateng is no answer for Drogba..when Drogba wants to play..or is he?...If Drogba does not turn up for this match...then which match will he turn up for...it does not get bigger than this......confidence building.
layorh12
Great article Radio!!! Really nailed it to the core! I'm glad to see I got my line-up spot on with yours. GO CHELSEA!!!!
Slippy G-19
I full-heatedly agree that Sturridge is a better individual player than Kalou, but for the sake of the TEAM, kalou should play as he is a better TEAM player and has more experience. Kalou shows more discipline when it comes to game plan and tactics, though we should bring studges late on to add more attacking dimension for perhaps the last 15mins...
Slippy G-19
What some of you are suggesting is half the dam problem...other teams are lining their best XI and we still trying to accomodate Torres so that his feelings wont get hurt or whatever...come on guys. We play the best XI, if that includes Torres great, if not well so be it. This game and the potential knock on effect it may have, is much more important to this club than to play Nando and please him!
JuniorCFC21
@Chelsea n Torres fan.Hutchinson was very impressive against Blackburn.Why not play him?
cfc250
Hutchinson is not registered for CL
true2blue
@Junior It's not about pleasing Torres, it's about the absence of Ramires and the need for pace
true2blue
3,4,1,2>> [Luiz-Bossman-Cahill]--[Ryan-Mikel-Lamps-Cole]--[Mata]--[DD-T9] Since Bossman is better @CB why not play him there and change the whole system to suit the players we have.....T9 will be better upfront with DD especially with Mata behind them....Ryan and Cole will provide width as well as supporting the defence and monitoring Robben and Ribery
SameX
Some people here are killing me with their lineups, too much FIFA 12 i guess! LOL
true2blue
@layor12 i think lahm may play at LB whilst rafinha at Rb thou bayern can play Lahm at Rb and Contento at LB(unfavourable for us) nonetheless it's torres or slo mo..sturridge has been ineffectual at left side it can be witnessed from period under carlo and under rdm recently(ram7 was playing rw) ...THIS IS PROBABLY DIDIER'S LAST CHAMP. LEAGUE FINAL AND I HOPE HE CAN WIN IT ..honestly tired of all this tactics talk,hope Roberto gets his tactics spot on and gets lucky..KTBFFH
ha17sun
Starting XI will be Paulo (RB), Cahill, Luiz, Ashley Cole (LB), Mikel, Lampard, Mata (AM), Torres (LF) and Kalou (RF). Drogba (CF). Bayern Munich cannot cope teams with teams that press them in midfield (it forces Schweini and Gustavo in mistakes). Torres on the left because Ashley Cole won't be bombing forward as much; sitting deep against Robben and to exploit the counter-attacks when we initiate them. Robben does not track back as much and Torres does not track back as much either. Kalou on the right to help Paulo/Bosingwa against Ribery. At the same time, Ribery tracks back too so Kalou's work rate can help. TWO THINGS THAT BAYERN SHOW THEY CANNOT COPE WITH IS pressing in midfield and transitional play. We will need fast counter-attacking and precise passing. The best transitional plays we've had in the CL has come from Chelsea and both were against Barcelona and both were from Lampard to Ramires who used his pace plus finishing and passing to sink them down. We will need the same against Bayern which is why Sturridge and Malouda cannot be on the pitch. Sturridge has pace, but no brains and no precise passing while Malouda has no pace and no passing...Lol!!!! Torres is the best option. Some pace and precise passing. Another way we can always hit them is the long balls and Bayern's defense can get disorganized very easily trying to deal with the pace of Torres, Strength of Drogba and work rate of Kalou......Mata and Lampard will help us in transitional play. Mata to be ticking things in midfield and Lampard for long balls.....Mikel protects the back and helps the fullbacks as well. We will need to defend and attack as a team and most importantly, OUR LUCK SHOULD CONTINUE SHINING. These players and the owner truly deserve the CL TITLE.
KAKUfrank
what's this news of Drogba to Barca? surely not, http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/7759863/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
chelsea44
What will be your reaction guys if kalou,malouda,sturidge and essien all start in munich? Ill break my tv and hope ribery and robben get red cards. lol
trublues
Why not stick drogba to the lw or rw, get crosses to him he will hold the ball bully and ram their rb or lb, then he can cross to the midfielders and strikers in the box or run straight into the box, he'll also get lots of freekicks or better he'll be tackled 4 a penalty.
trublues
When you want to play the most important game of the season, you don't want to make drastic changes to the formation and structure that has worked well for you to get there. All you need is minor tweaks and minimal changes in personnel based on availability and to capitalize on your opponent's weaknesses.
I think we should go with Cech-Paulo-Cahill-Luiz-Cole-Mikel-Frank-Kalou-Drogba-Torres
true2blue
And Mata of course
true2blue
Thanks for the positive response. Just to be clear, I wouldn't start Bosingwa but I think RDM will!
RadioactiveD
100% with you RADIO but torres should play at LW for reasons already said by other members but my only concern is our subs if the game is not going our way i m afraid that we don't have the game changing sub
kam.kh
sayWHAT - shut the feck up, it was my honest assessment of MQ's line-up. End of.
BlueABS
I am going with Kaku's line-up which is the same as quite a few here. Outstanding question is who goes out right and who goes left.
BlueABS
I won't be sleeping the night before either but then that might have something to do with a check-in at Gatwick at 3:50am!!! Another interesting article, thanks RD!
SpanishBlue
can I put my head on the block and say Mikel will be our weakest (if not 2nd weakest) link on Saturday?? Bundesliga is much like EPL, pace and fast moving balls, the 2 things Mikel has failed to do consistently
@Mq
I, like most, fear Bosingwa starting but I'm sure he will. Much as I like and rate Paulo, Bosingwa's pace will be necessary against Robben & Ribery although I still see him struggling because he's just not good enough. Ribery could destroy Paulo but equally I could see Paulo marking him out of the game - I don't see Bosingwa doing that in any circumstance short of Ribery having a leg amputated just before kick off (and maybe not even then!)! Anyway, as I say, I think Bos will start because of his pace, in which case I almost wonder about swapping him and Cole over because I am also worried about Robben cutting in on Cole whereas a naturally right footed full back might cope with that better. I don't remember seeing Robben go outside his man much when playing on the right. Then I'd worry about Ribery going outside on Cashley's weaker foot though, so that doesn't work either!
SpanishBlue
Looks like Luiz & Cahill will both play having come through a full training session unscathed yesterday. I hope to God they do but I hope even moreso that they are properly fit - shades of Terry Phelan, in the FA Cup semi was it?
SpanishBlue
Harsh as it is (and it really is because he deserves to start), I would not start Torres. I don't think he's at his best out wide and feel that the impact he could have from the bench could be significant. It is acknowledged that Bayern's defence is their weekness, partly due to a lack of pace. So Fernando coming on when they're tired as well, either because we need goals or need an outlet as we hang on defensively, will not only give the team a huge boost but the crowd too. It will also scare Bayern ****less after what he did to Barca! We have NO ONE else who can make that kind of impact later in the game and I think playing all your aces from the very beginning is a dangerous tactic, being able to make significant changes from the bench is crucial too. That probably means I'd start Sturridge with Kalou. Danny has annoyed me as much as anyone and his form of late is very poor. He's selfish, doesn't tackle back or work for the team and thinks he's much better than he is BUT, he does have his moments and could cause their defence problems. Perhaps he'll even put in a shift for a CL final and knowing that he won't play the whole game.
SpanishBlue
@Mq...loool...thanks for putting your head on the block...win or loose, Mikel's performance will be accessed after the match...and I think there is a big big chance you will be wrong....In my opinion, historically, he performs very well in big matches...I can mention enough.
layorh12
Failing that, as a bit of a wild card, what about playing Bertrand wide left to allow Mata to play more centrally and then a choice of Kalou or Sturridge wide right? Ryan has bags of energy to get up and down, giving Cashley vital defensive support but also having the pace and energy to get forward and bother Bayern at the back. He can cross well too unlike anyone else we've got! He finished there against Blackburn, I wonder if that was an audition? Have to say he did very well too, though Blackburn at Stamford Bridge is slightly different to Bayern in the Allianz!
SpanishBlue
Oh sod it, I don't care who starts, what we do or how we do it, I just want us to win it! F*ck me I'm nervous as Hell already!!!
SpanishBlue
nope i would not play danny ahead of kalou. kalou has a much better work rate, tracks back well and helps defensively. on the other case although danny has his moments but still he is not much help defensively especially when we have bossman at RB. it is just too much of a risk to be taken in CL finals.
SALZBURRY
nice lineup. totally agree with it. the only change would be torres in front of ashley while kalou in front of bossman.
SALZBURRY
Radio..excellent article and analysis. Your picked team is pretty much like mine except i would pick Ferraira to play RB instead of Bosingwa..and i see that would have been your choice as well but you suspect (and i agree) that RDM will probably play Bosingwa instead just because he has more pace. If the line up is as you indicate then our greatest concern will be Bosingwa and his ability to contain Ribery...since he will need all the help he can get and since Torres for all his effort isnt a great tackler or defender i agree with you that Torres and Kalou should switch their flank play not only to confuse Bayern but also to give spells where Kalou is on the right to support Bosingwa. Kalou hasnt got Torres's technique, goal finishing or pace but he tracks back better and is certainly a better tackler and defender. I think Cole will do fine with Robben but clearly Lamps and Mikel will have huge roles in policing the middle for when either Robben and/or Ribery cut inwards as well as the ever present threats of Kroos and Mueller. As i said yesterday anyone expecting a shoot out in this will likely be dissapointed. This will be an edgy cagey affair..Mistakes will be severely punished and the winning margin will be narrow which will make it even more painful for the loser at the end. We must have a go though..and in my mind it is absolutely vital we score first which is why i am adamant that Torres and Drogs start..of all our suspended players Ramires will be missed the most and Torres has to do his best simulation of what Ramires typically gives us. I'd rather not have to chase this game and certainly we must settle this in 90-120 minutes ..i dont at all fancy our chances in a penalty shoot out against a bunch of germans with Neuer in goal for them. I am also relieved Malouda is not available..he simply has no business in this match. If we need to protect a lead late i would rather bring on Essien to beef up the midfield, Danny to provide an added counter attacking threat and if desperate try Hutchison if Bosingwa is having a torrid time..Finally we just need to pray because i think it will be decided by how gets some lucky bounces, which goalie has the posts and cross bars as his assistant and hopefully the referee is not one of those idiots who needs to insert himself into the game to take center stage but just does a competent fair job calling the game equally and consistently down the center..hopefully it is 11 v 11 to the end and may chelsea prevail when it is all said and done.
GabeU
Is Bertrand registered to play in the CL?
KAKUfrank
@KAKU yes bertrand is registered.just curious?
ha17sun
And ribery gets the ball bosingwa is backtracking turning his back, and ribery ghosts past him, and bosingwa hotly chases him and tackles luiz, ribery scores luiz off injured how can chelsea survive now? but then remember barcelona!!! Lolll.
trublues
@LAYOR...the bet is on mate
@Mq
then Lamps passes his "customary" side-ways pass and it results in Mikel being caught with the ball, he resorts to fouling the player and Bayern has a dangerous free-kick.....Lamps AGAIN does his "trademark" back pass and lo-and-behold it's right into Gomez' feet who slaloms past Cahill and get fouled in the 18 by Luiz PENALTY...*just saying*...if Bosingwa can be slagged so can any player
@Mq
Mq: what's your agenda, to irritate everyone?
RadioactiveD
it's to "balance" the rhetoric @RADIOACTIVE, if Bosingwa can be branded a disaster before a game (e.g TRUBLUES comment) then likewise Lamps can be branded a disaster (my comment)...anything wrong there??
@Mq
Mikel would play well @mq,i can bet $100 on it....
Desmondadonis
The rhetoric? Bosingwa is consistently a disaster whereas Lampard has been a legend for this club. He's also really turned around his form since the departure of AVB. Your rhetoric is awful, Mq.
RadioactiveD
GabeU: I don't like our chances in a shootout either. Nevermind the stereotype about Germans; we've got too much baggage in shootouts. Cech has improved in them but I also agree that Neuer is better in that respect. I also totally agree with bringing on Essien if we need to protect a lead. Essien's decline has really saddened be but he's still got the same good mind for football. His experience and his physical strength will be an asset late on. As for Danny, I'd be shocked if he featured at all. He's got pace and a wicked shot, but if we're talking about football IQ's, well, he needs government assistance!
RadioactiveD
saddened *me*
RadioactiveD
cfc250-hutchinson just play one full game in chelsea shirt,and it's against a low morale relegation team.that's just not enough to claim spot in the biggest game of any player's career.his task is just not only against ribery,but also a big crowd.it's not that easy.furthermore,someone have said above that he's not been registered.so doesn't matter then..
Chelsea n Torres Fan
We can all just speculate on who starts, and what tactics will be used to stop Bayern.... (by the way, stop posting them as Bayern might be reading them and planning around it themselves lol, just kidding). What i feel will be the deciding factor in this game besides tactics obviously, is motivation both teams will have going into this match. Bayern just got whooped 5--2, and their motivation is to avenge that loss on us, and their home stadium will also boost their morale. But, Chelsea have the advantage in my opinion is that RDM will be mentally giving them the boost of "Its your last chance to win this trophy with this group of players and be history makers at this club" talk. And this i feel like will be the difference between the two teams, is us just wanting it more! We all saw the glimpses of this desire at Napoli and Barca, now we just have to show it one more time against the Germans. Who ever wants it more, will decide the game!!!
Tiraspol
@DESMOND likewise mate, I'll take the bet
@Mq
well RADIOACTIVE Lamps passes (both under AVB and RDM) have been 80% side-ways or backwards, how "progressive" is that??...
@Mq
Like I told you guys yesterday....King Kenny at Liverscum has parted company with the club.....Benitez rumoured to be on his way back!.....
layorh12
Mq: Frank has 16 goals and 10 assists this season. Shut up about his passing. Just shut up, in general.
RadioactiveD
*every comment made ridiculing Bosingwa will be followed by 1 ridiculing Lamps*...some1's gotta keep you in "check" because come match-day, Bosingwa will be expected to err and every little mistake he makes will be magnified, so I will also follow Lamps and every mistake he makes will require a FULL DOSE of my criticism...let's be subjective to avoid this
@Mq
Like I told you guys yesterday....King Kenny at Liverscum has parted company with the club.....Benitez rumoured to be on his way back!....
layorh12
NO I WON'T SHUT UP @RADIOACTIVE...Bosingwa has played a part in this teams success just as much as Lamps has, he's a defender so stats don't compare, but for all of Lamps "amazing" ability Frei (A SMALL BOY) ran rings round him and left him in the dustbin, the man couldn't pick a pass unless it's wide open (like Barca) and how's that for a so-called "legend"??
@Mq
@Mq yeah the fact tht u exist in this site/life is wrong but anyway @Radio good points lets hope it all goes our way and let us all pray for another miracle,this group of players deserve it come on chelsea
kishaloy_nag_blue
please everyone should ease off on Mq...my opinion is that there is a way we can argue on this site that does not degenerate into verbal shenanigans...Each man should seek to understand his fellow man...@Mq inclusive of course..loool
layorh12
so-called "legend" ??? really MQ do you want to turn this thread into another slanging match?? you do have some good points but it is not the correct time to discuss them now. we can have all these discussions at the end of the season.
SALZBURRY
@Mq: Are you truly a Chelsea fan or a Manutd Spy trying to create un rest in CFC nation?
Blue India
Any ways, it is not working.
Blue India
This week has truly been very long. I dont know how will I survive with about 4 months of no CFC and all the BS called transfer rumors. I hope we dont buy Modric
Blue India
This week has truly been very long. I dont know how will I survive without 3-4 months of no CFC and all the BS called transfer rumors. I hope we dont buy Modric
Blue India
Take the high road if you wish, Blue India. Mq devalues good conversations. He's a troll and deserves to be treated as such.
RadioactiveD
@Blue India - the transfer rumours have hardly started, you ain't seen nothing yet LOL!
BlueABS
@Radio - LMAO at the 'government assistance'
BlueABS
Others have brought this up, so I'll address it. Does anyone think that Torres shouldn't start because he will need to help defend either Ribery/Robben? If we want to play defensively, couldn't Essien play in an advanced role? It would kill our width but it would hurt Bayern's as well.
RadioactiveD
@Blue India - MQ is a Barca fan, or maybe he has a {crush} on Pep LOL!
BlueABS
MQ - Just be ready to come on here and eat humble pie when Mikel has a great game. Same goes for Lampard.
BlueABS
I agree with BlueABS as is the case most of the times.
Drogba2891
Torres tracking and tackling back is susceptible to rash ones (Swansea anyone?) but if he can stay calm and sensible in that role, he will do a much better job than Sturridge could ever do (not hard to beat zilch in that respect). Problem with Essien is that he definitely isn't as mobile anymore, but he would be an asset if we have to crowd the midfield and protect a lead. Bring him on later if necessary. I just think both Drogba & Torres on the field from the start will have BM's defence quaking in their boots. Live up to their billing and they should cause their defence real problems.
BlueABS
@Drogba2891 - cheers mate ;) (and reciprocated)
BlueABS
@Mq..who would u like to score the deciding goal vs bayern .mikel or bossman or lampard?
ha17sun
I wonder how many goals Drogba would have had every season if he had been taking all the penalties.
foreign_viewer
The 4-2-3-1 has been successful in handling Barca and any attack through the middle because Mikel and Lampard have been very good at thwarting anything coming through that space. JT and whoever has been at CB have really not done much in the last series of runs except clear up whatever slipped through. However our flanks are still exposed. We say Ramires and Kalou help out, but they only help as far as mark the wingbacks and stopping them from advancing not their opposite numbers. Barca’s goals were from the flanks and also Liverpool scored from attacks initiated from the flanks. Yes Kalou and Ramires were able to stop Johnson and Enrique, but when Liverpool adjusted to a 4-3-3 with 2 dedicated wingers and Suarez as a floater behind them, in the last 30 minutes of the FA Cup final we struggled to maintain them. Mikel and Lampard could not leave their defensive positions. Ramires and Kalou could not leave their posts so it was left to Cole and Bosingwa to mark their men. Once the CBs are exposed that’s it and teams can expose them through the middle and from the flanks. I would therefore start with a 4-3-2-1 formation with Mikel, Frank and Romeu man marking Ribery. Drogba would start on his own but with Mata and one of Torres/Kalou with a free role around him and also helping at the back. In games like these, you can actually benefit by allowing Frank to make one or two early runs to support DD. Bayern will have to account for Frank which I do not think they will do for Mata….but we need the boy to make things work for us when we get the ball and its not. As far as I am concerned, we just have to make the defense work for us….DD will do the rest.
ocblues
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bluebroda
RB was our weak position in the last CL final we played. Utd put Ronaldo attacking that flank and poor old Essien was no match for him. I imagine Bayern will do the same as it is still our weakest position by some way.
londonfc
@HA17SUN (the only 1 worth responding to) I'd rather Bosingwa (to vindicate himself from all the insults he gets especially at VC)
@Mq
@KISHALOY...I know who you are (someone emailed me) and out of respect I won't resort to cheap talk...do me a fav though, how about an article on what exzactly VC is about, hero-worship or club-praise, and while we at that doesn't praise and criticism go hand in hand??
@Mq
Ocblue...There is a nice point to examine...I like ur analysis mate...There is a nice catch to it.
Desmondadonis
No matter what system we play, we need to win it up. Their defense is weak and we can take advantage of Drogba and Torres.
Kendemsblue
No matter what system we play, we need to win it up. Their defense is weak and we can take advantage of Drogba and Torres.
Kendemsblue
@MQ if only u show the same respect to YOUR CLUB(presumbly CHELSEA)then no body here have problem with you,u say u know who I am thts great,but tell me howcome 98% of members here have problem with u and ur opinions ,their are people here who have supported CFC ther entire life and CONGRATULATIONS even they are irritated and fed up with you...so may be the problem lies with you,just think about it instead of trying to pick up fight with each and every members
kishaloy_nag_blue
If we dont win i think i'l puke....But we'll win....I am ßsure...We are chelsea...
Desmondadonis
I respect my club but that doesn't mean I shouldn't criticize @KISHOLAY it's meant to be constructive but as always, it ends up being mistaken for negativity and I get insulted. I'm not a "blind" fan and I'll never be 1, I praise the club where they're successful and will, likewise, criticize where they not. The major problem here is that I "tend" to criticize certain "favorites" (players and Managers) and the only reason I do so is because the same criticis always blame certain players and Managers (Bosingwa and AVB) for the clubs failures, and I only want to highlight that there's also other contributors...Fact is the 90% of the people that "hate" me is because I oppose what they support, not necessarily because what I say isn't true (because hardly any have ever successfully objected what I'm saying without insults)....at the end of it all, somehow I get vindicated (for example earlier in the season I suggested the players were past it and was insulted by the same people who "suddenly" realize this now)
@Mq
@mq: jst shut up...!!!!!!!
Bleed_Blue
No @Mq don't shut up.
foreign_viewer
@Mq their you go,you say "I praise the club where they're successful" well I along with other majority(90% according to you )must have missed that,I cannot remember A SINGLE TIME you have any positive things to say about our club,in fact if i remember after FA cup win and after defeating barca many were calling out to you to show yourself but offcourse you were no where to be seen,now 2 days before our biggest game you are once again up to your tricks...dont know what else to say to you what others have not already said...
kishaloy_nag_blue
I wasn't on the match-day threads because I watch "such" matches with loads of company @KISHOLAY and I did come in and say "congrats to the lads" in the corresponding article the next day...90% was a typo, it's actually 98% who hate me and to be honest I don't care, although I dare anyone to give me 10 good reason's why I'm hated, actually 5 and hardly anyone will get that far...can you??
@Mq
God i love this guy... David Luiz: Before the game v Barca I told Ramires to play for him and for me. After the game he hugged me and told me to play the final for him.. Absolute legend even before completing his first full season with us..
sponnukumar

1.You speak the same thing again and again in an infinite loop till every body is sick of it

2.you keep on harping about PEP PEP when u know very well he is not available,how would you feel if someone keep on abt sign MESSI,sign MESSI,sign MESSI

3.according to you AVB was GOD AVB was ANGEL,jesus man surely you know where we were under AVB dont you?

4.You single point agenda regarding Di MATTEO-As per you "he crap,oh he is just lucky"CAN YOU DENY THAT HE HAS TAKEN US TO A GOD DAM CL FINAL and FA cup win,Ask any football fan they will take a lucky coach all day long ,DE MATEO is chelsea,he is blue blood and istead of showing gratitude you keep trying to pull him down/p>

5.From you earlier post "the man couldn't pick a pass unless it's wide open (like Barca) and how's that for a so-called "legend"" WTF was that and you say you dont know why people hate you??? Do you know that LEGEND is made after a lifetime of putting shifts and consistent performance,if making such passes against barca was so easy then how come NOBODY in last 3-4 years have been able to do that to barca

look if I star going over all your pearls of wisdom then am sure I would be able to pick out 100 reasons,but whts the use ,you are determind to bury your head in tha sand dont you ?

kishaloy_nag_blue
KISHOLAY 1. I only respond to articles with my perception which is constant and all the more vindicates me as eventually "everyone" agrees to what I'm saying(is that wrong??)...2. I've stopped talking about Pep but have always said he was the best candidate for Managing Chelsea (even Roman want's this, is that wrong??)...3. I've always said AVB had faults but since everyone else was highlighting them I took the stance that he wasn't the only 1 responsible so the more he was blamed, the more I insisted he wasn't the only 1 @ fault and highlighted other "culprits" (is that wrong??)...4) I didn't take away what RDM has done ("everyone" has covered this countless times) I only stated the "overlooked" (how lucky we were) for the sake of balance, we cannot all overlook "obvious" happenings...5) that quote was a blog I merely copied and pasted here....I've never taken away anyone's legendary status, I've only been consistently highlighting their deficiencies that are ALWAYS overlooked....
@Mq
at the end of it all it's about balance @KISHOLAY, Bosingwa get's blamed 99% of the games he plays and we lose and it's become such a norm that even before a game (like this Saturday) he's already being labelled a disaster and that's just not fair at all. Lamps has made errors too and no1 ever mentioned them before I started doing so and look what happened there-after, he's "faults" were grudgingly being accepted mainly because I started speaking about them (and got stick for it)...Long story short, let's be fair here, if Bosingwa (or Meireles, even AVB) can be consistently blamed for our failures (they are clearly the most hated at VC "after me" of-course LoL) then like-wise, Lamps and RDM (the most "loved") should share blame when they flop...*justice*
@Mq
@MQ reading your responses I feel you WANT RDM and LAMPS to fail,so that then you can turn around and say I told you so.Infact your wanting the TEAM to fail just so you can say I told you so could very well be point 6. LOL.Tell me is that a healthy attitude to have?Now from your respone "5) that quote was a blog I merely copied and pasted here....I've never taken away anyone's legendary status",so you admit he is a legend,then again you speak about his deficiencies,name me one palyer in HISTORY OF SPORTS WHO DOES NOT have deficiencies,humans play the game not GOD

Again from your posts AFTER I TOLD THEY DID THIS ,THEY DID THAT,I ,I, I apart from the reflection in your mirror,their are also other perfectly smart people around,this could very well be point 7 ITS A WELL KNOWN FACT SINCE CARLO ERA THAT OUR OLDER PLAYERS NEEDS TO BE REPLACED GRADUALLY,SO HARDLY YOURS IS A ORIGINAL POINT IS IT

bosinga gets blamed becuase majority of times he does something silly and get the team in trouble,note I say majority not always,fans in this site still admire him from the job he did on messi 3-4 years back in THAT game,and also he was hugely admired when he played as a makeshift center back recently against barca,but since by your own admission you were not "around" in that match day thread you will never know

kishaloy_nag_blue
But seriously, must every article be about mQ vs others? Its getting tiresome already. Mq, every one critisizes, i critique and critisize a lot, but honestly, yours has not been constructive at all, and i think thats the problem here. You can critisize all you want, but please, 1) dont insult any player or anything that belongs to chelsea, 2) dont undermine or be negative all the time and 3) and this goes for everyone, try and respect everyones opinion (i know you have been a victim of this to an extent), for example, i strongly disagreed with the lineup you proposed, but i knew that commenting to that would just result into an unnecessary chain of insults and argumemt so i just declined..... Thank you.
LeyemovicH
We are MASSIVE underdog, which could be a good thing
I am Number 7
KISHOLAY as I said, I only take the opposing views because it "hurts" me that some are blamed when others (who are human as you affably put it) are overlooked. This is deliberate because it's necessary to "view" the failures of the ENTIRE TEAM holistically and not individually, but since my endeavors to "holistically" criticize the team yield no outcome (Bosingwa and Meireles were still the only 1's blamed) I then resorted to follow suit and "individualize" my criticism (if most can do so, why can't I??)...Long story short, as long as "individuals" are criticized by most I'll also individually criticize those that are overlooked
@Mq
@Mq i certainly agree with u regarding avb's sacking..had avb given time to make his own team i believe he would have succeeded but avb's downfall was his own making i.e disrespecting alex and anelka(players such as kalou,lampard felt that if they differed avb's opinion they would have followed the suit and would have been frozen from squad) ...but on bossman's issue i disagree the guy has been given fair enough chances to prove his worth and has disappointed when playing in his positon(chelsea didn't pay 17 mil for and left back),he had a tough time contending with bale in last months fa final.He has cost us many points one, so Mq one cannot give simillar amount of patience/love to an error prone, noncompetitive player in comparison(david luiz is too error prone but makes it up) to Lampard who is a chelc legend and loves chelsea(do u remember when he was about to join inter but reading upon chelsea fan mails decided against it)..*respect n common sense*
ha17sun
@LEYE I stopped insulting last week after being "advised" about my shortcomings which also reflect my "human nature" but you still get people like BLUE-ABS, DROGBA etc that still insult even if I make an "non-insulting" comment e.g. this very article, and I'm sorry bud am a man too, they punch I punch...check my article about the line-ups, DESMOND disagreed and I didn't insult him but BLUE-ABS insulted me hence I retaliated. I won't insult if I'm not insulted...
@Mq
I also am "concerned" about Bosingwa's defensive frailties @HA17SUN but seeing how he performed against Barca at CB and that we only have Luiz and Cahill at CB, I'd rather we move Luiz to RB (I still have reservations about his defensive abilities as a last line defender) then let Bosingwa play at CB, what you think??
@Mq
@mq u knw as well as i do that david luiz cant play RB....In the lineup i dîisagreed on...Ièf u recollect i didnt insult u...I stopped the barrage of insults cos i found out that its damaging to the site and pointless
Desmondadonis
@Mq what we do is playstation talk...i remember in avb's last game or so he(avb) replaced ivanovic with DL and Luiz was anoymous...cant see RDM trying and experimenting in a game as big as this and also i dont think bosingwa can cope with physciality of super mario
ha17sun
so who marks Ribery @DESMOND and @HA17SUN, Bosingwa?? I can almost be sure he'll be slagged come match-day
@Mq
@Mq i would say kalou n lampard..boss to play the clearance game he doesn't need to do fancy stuff .since kalou n lamps would play right sided they should cover him
ha17sun
did that on the PS @HA17SUN and I was beaten 4-1, Ribery scoring 2...
@Mq
 

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