Torres!

We should have let this guy off our club in the summer. Remember his immature rant after our UCL glory? Very BAD decision to let the club, especially us as fans to get another tormented (as @mq now call him) season

Where would we have let Torres go to in the summer and who will give you Torres + 20 million for Falcao??????

Hmmm...!!!

The funny thing is that when AVB was here at the bridge, he tried to persuade Roman to bring in Falcao before he went off to Athletico and got rejected LMAO... Oh the irony of it all... Torres + 20m = Falcao??? That puts Torres evaluation at approx. 25m... There is no chance in hell he is worth anything close to that at the moment. The more sensible way to fix our striking problem is something close to this nature: Sell Torres for 15-20m, Danny for 12-15m, Kakuta 5m, Malouda 5m/free, Let go Lamps (even though i love the guy but we have to move on), Cole... save on the wages will be massive... We'll have 32-45m, add another 20-10m and get Falcao/Dzeko and Bony... Bring in from loans, pva, josh/essien, lukaku.... done. but that's not going to happen in january anyways and its unfortunate... so this season i don't think we can expect too much but a 3rd/4th place a cup or two, hopefully the World Club Trophy... and just patch the holes in the summer and move on from there

Just buy a striker that is relatively unknown but have a goal scoring predigree, we can get one for south america like chicharito and an african striker too, both won't be more than £30m

Anyone else wanna agree that @ Uncle Merlin should start rejecting all Torres articles? It's so annoying now and frustrating. Everyday, another Torres article... Vital Chelsea is so boring now... geez

The big question is who will have Torres and if he were to leave he would have to take a massive pay cut.

@Blue in Colorado, I second and triple that.....Now you know why I was tripping on your own article a few weeks ago.

Sorry mates,like blue colorado n kaku,am requesting merin not to accept any other torres debate here,too much of anything is poison,monotony creates boredom!

i agree. leave the torres arguments as they are all the same

@ darlinblue and blue5 fans here talk about Torres not because of hate for him (at least am yet to see that on here) but cos of I dare say some affection for him being our striker. Yes there is nothing will can do till 31st of December but we can sure talk about him just like we talk about other players maybe him more and for a reason!! I still reamin a big fan of Torres and yes we have all been behind him for 2 seasons! About time ha starts repaying us with some goals!! Dont you think?

Zaha. Imagine playing him as a number 9

20 mil good deal. Play as a false #9. with Hazard, Mata and Oscar. Sick

@alfosoulja - I too would prefer Torres get subbed sooner the 80 min mark. Might then actually give Sturiddge some serious minutes on the pitch and we may then actually find out we already have a very good striker in the squad.

Torres is finished! Would prefer bamford to lead the attack than La-Nino aka el-floppo.

Berbatov was given 4Mil by ManUre to take a pay-cut and join Fulham, who's to say we can't structure such a deal and rid us of this flop??

Blue in Colorado,KAKU,blue5.I join you guys.I have actually been saying this for the past two months.Same old debate.Same old moaning.Not only Torres but the striker debate has crossed its length.

The thing is that if torres is kept as the main striker for chelsea in every game, then articles like this will keep coming up, with fans venting their frustration with articles, I can't imagine who adviced roman on buying torres, we paid a fortune for him that can buy atleast 5 strikers and atleast 2 will or 3 wouldve been good if that was the case, but what we need to do is try other options, but since we are not doing that, then I am sure what I said about roman ordering rdm to play torres without fail is true

We already have Lukaku in the "Bony" mould so why have 2 similar players, we need some1 different...

let us try sturridge!!! or even bamford who is scoring in every game!!! dey cant do any worse can dey??

Another 1...http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/12/daniel-sturridge-goals-season-chelsea

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2012/11/13/3524263/sturridge-i-could-score-20-goals-a-season-for-chelsea-if-given-a-?source=breakingnews sturridge also has a point , he deserves a chance cause , torres doesnt deserve start

Danny will go in January, we can pay Torres as @MQ suggests to take a pay cut to Russia or China. Get Jovetic and Lewandrowski and we are set, both are young and clinical finishers.

The funny thing is that when Torres was playing for Liverpool, he was even more deadly than Suarez. I have long suspected that it must be something about the way Chelsea plays which creates an unsuitable environment for Torres.

Blueday, its either the way we play which sucks or his heart is not at chelsea, it must be one of the two.

@DESMOND: If someone else had said our style of football sucks this season than that person must be on a cheap weed but you... Its unacceptable, stay off drugs you are better than that.

Man U paid Berbatov 4mm to leave for Fulham? Where did you get this news from and what link? Don't embarrass yourself and post a goal.com link or Wayne Veysey link. And who compares a player's situation that had 1 year left on his contract and earning 100k a week (Berbatov) to one who has 4 years left on his contract and is the top 20 highest paid player in the world? To structure a deal like Berbatov's, think of the term of Torres's contract. berba's was one year remaining. Torres has four so whatever you decide to pay him off will be for 4 years. If Berba's was 4mm. Think higher numbers than the 4mm for Torres and multiply by the length of his contract. What Chelsea have in Fernando Torres is a Kaka situation. One of the highest transfer fees in the world, shadows of themselves and on high wages. Unlike Torres though, Kaka is improving. However, like Torres, they will forever be rumors linking him back to his boy club like Kaka has been linked back to AC Milan. Fans will believe it and look for all sentimental reasons for the player to move back to their previous clubs and will end up being disappointed that the former clubs cannot afford the transfer fees and/or salaries of their former prized jewels. However, Torres to Atletico Madrid in a Falcao swap will continue as much as Kaka to AC Milan. After a while, it will turn to the MLS or something else. I think Chelsea will follow Real Madrid's steps: look for a cheaper (Ozil in Real Madrid's case) world class player to replace Torres in the CF position and not engage in a big money move. And then work on loaning Torres to other clubs from the summer. We just made 1.4mm net profit of which 20mm+ was from player trading profits. A sale of Torres or a termination of his contract with payments (that's if it is possible) will be wipe all that profit from last year out......There is a reason Real Madrid hasn't been able to move Kaka all these years. Only because he is nearing the end of his contract are moves now looking likelier to happen like Berbatov's case and Adebayor.

Fiorentina turned down a 25mm offer for Jovetic so I don't think our 20mm will fly. Balotelli? Will destroy our locker room and Chelsea fans at the Bridge will destroy him. We won't tolerate his nonsense like City does. M'Vila is garbage and doesn't have any passing skills. Cabaye is much better. Milan Badelj is doing well at Hamburg. Wanyama is good. Diame from West Ham is a monster. They are so many options at Double Pivot including our own Josh and KDB if they develop their defensive ability as well.

Gosh Mq, that is why I don't have conversations with you and know you have no iota of investment knowledge. If Chelsea is to sell Torres SO SOON like your intelligent brain thinks, it will be for a significant loss and will probably impede on big money moves. It is not about it being impossible, but it being unlikely as soon as some of you expect e.g. like January like some of you think. The whole point is to reduce the amount of losses we'll take on disposing Torres. The equivalent of selling Torres is the cost of sacking Ancelotti + Hiring AVB close to 30mm pounds. If you think we'll be taking that sort of this loss this year, you must be joking. A loan move then a sale is more likely, but a sale in the early part of his contract with his current performance is just wishful thinking......Comparing such to Berbatov is incredibly daft as well....

@ Mq I hope the story of Falcao already agreeing personal terms with Chelsea is true but on the other hand, 60M is a very big spend and I dont think we need spend that big. Why can't we find a decent striker and hopefully turn them into world class striker. Maybe our scouts need a good kick on their behind. Spending ridiculous amounts of money on one player is not sustainable.

do you really think Chelsea (under Roman) are fearful of taking a short-term loss given the long-term benefit to be gained KAKU?? Investment isn't just about short-term gains lad, you can lose immediately but gain eventually. Given we having made a profit now and Uefa allowing for losses upto 40Mil Euro's, we can still accommodate losing Torr-Mented1 and buying Falcao because Falcao's cost will be amortized over the duration of his contract (5 years presumably) so it can be done....*go figure*

@ blue_run.....apart from mata and Maybe rdm avb did nothing..sturidge was already here...it was chelsea who bought cahill, courtois, lukaku, and Kdb.with avb approval or not....chelsea deserve the credit not Avb mate.

Gosh,...didn't know you were this terrible in analysis. We only made profits because we booked players profits for close to 28mm+ pounds and won the UCL which earned us 15mm pounds more than the finalist in Bayern. These are 2 events that don't happen every year. If we didn't sell players or win the UCL, we'd be in a loss making position AGAIN to the tune of close to 40mm pounds...2 events that don't happen every year. How many players we would be ABLE TO SELL from next year? Lampard, Cole, and Malouda are all leaving on the free. Once players like Josh, PVA and KDB return next year, their salaries will be on our books. Besides even the striker situation, there is a possibility we could sign another midfielder and left back.....So yeah, it is not as easy as go figure as you put it. Almost all your go figure thoughts always end up stupid anyway.

and stop with the "if this, if that" it happened and we made a profit, and when we decide to sell Torr-Mented1 there's no if's about that, we'll sell him :)

Gosh Mq, stop making yourself look like an arse and fool that you are. You don't even know the rules. UEFA rules allows us to absorb aggregate losses of €45 million (£36 million), initially over those two years and then over a three-year monitoring period. Not 40mm Euros per annum like you claim (AGAIN, MAKING YOURSELF THE IDIOT THAT YOU ARE). Read the rules here first then come back and talk to me: http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/80/54/10/1805410_DOWNLOAD.pdf. Under article 61. Lampard and Ashley's salary do not count towards FFP. PVA, KDB and others will count as well plus the new CM and LB you are opening your GOB about. Not only do you have to include their salaries, but the transfer fees we have to pay as well. Geez......Know the rules first before opening your stupid mouth. Oh Lord.

No way you know investment.

Amidst all the stuff you rightly say BOTTOM LINE if Chelsea want to rid themselves of a player they can and will, especially if there's a buyer. We are not stuck with Torr-Mented1 beyond that which we feel we can handle, if Roman decides to rid us of the guy he can and he will, there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that you and any other number cruncher out there that can influence that and therein lies the gist of my argument, so for all things you saying like we are stuck with this guy WE ARE NOT, we can sell him "good investment" or not :)

Nope. You said 40mm annually. It is 45mm for 2 seasons in aggregate so 22.5mm per annum. That is 18mm difference. Not 5mm difference. Again, you don't even understand that....

Just crossing my fingers hoping that chelsea pulls out a surprise and get the right person to bang in the goals again