West Brom 2 Chelsea 1

With Torres we have a selfless player who can never get in good positions. With Sturridge we have a selfish striker who always gets in good positions. The truth is neither of them are good enough. I'd take Kalou back in a heartbeat. Verdict: We absolutely need a new striker.

RDM simply under-rated them and he paid for it big time.He should be reminded that Mr.Roman is not that patient

which d.head voted Luiz as MOTM?

Didnt watch the match but man we are litterally *****ing away our title chances. Dissapointing. Keeping hope of the title would make for an entertaining season. Guess its going to be managerial merry go round as rdm will be sacked. Im going to blame lack of strikers. Too bad torres is killing our clubs chances. Beginning to think hes a cancer that will continue to pull us down. We need to cut him out

Our problem is the defense. I am beginning to doubt Luiz's ability to play in Chelsea

Ive been callin gfor Studge to start all season long...and today shows why. Does anyone else want to try and justify why Torres should start ahead of him anymore, be my guest!

Who do we actually have leading the line. We have torres, and lets be fsir to him couldnt hit a barn door even if it had a giant poster of a rapist attacking his mother. Bin him hes useless

Petr Cech almost managed to do what Torres failed to do the entire time he was on the pitch - score a goal!

I wont blame RDM much for this one, he tried to rest players and made his subs early, i was happy he took Torres off too. He shouldnt have start both Romeu and Mikel in the pivot both players are like six and half a dozen, if he must start Torres i would have love to see him playing behind Sturridge instead of other way round.

I don't think sacking RDM will solve anything here. And I sincerely hope the board will be sensible enough to see that. If any of this does go back to RDM it is why he wouldn't get another striker in the summer. Counting the cost of that very dear mistake is nowhere near to being over yet. But for now, Sturridge is definitely the one to start.

Di Matteo has muffed it big time

Sturridge has all the attribute to become a world class striker...its because he's english and not from spain or south america that people wont realise this

I want us to stick with rdm i like him. Will he be given a chsnce if this run of results continues though....think the team needs to pull the socks up

@blue in colorade why do you think we need a new manager ? what thing do you think other managers would have done different

We are effectively playing every game with 10 men...no striker worth the name. Torres looks listless, unfocussed and almost like he doesn't want to be out there! Never in the right position. But to be honest he received very little service today while out there. Sturridge wants it, moves well but almost always makes the wrong decision...like the one today in the 86th min. with Mata clearly in the clear at the far post and Danny boy elects to shoot. *Luiz....you don't know which is going to show up - the really good defender or the casual, poor one who showed up today. Beginning to think he's not good enough for Chelsea.

When I said that Luiz is costing us goals every game, I got called a "stupid plastic who doesn't know his stuff". Those who still think there is room for argument, fark yourselves. I'm not saying he's a shoite player. He was good for us last year. He's just having a horrendous time and he needs a serious kick in the arse and some bench-time. Azpilicueta proved today that he is good enough to start some games and Ivanovic proved against Swansea that he was good enough to start some games in the centre too. Drop Luiz, put Ivanovic in the centre and play Azpi on the right. We are not even making it difficult for God's sake. We are easier to score against than Southampton!

i for once want RDM to come out and say you know what the lads were poor, yes defending your team is important sometimes but when you are earning over 100 grand a week you need to be told if you are playing poor

If sturidge started as many games as torres had,he would be finishing far much better than today. His runs and touches were amazing,mata kept on finding him without breaking any sweat. That says alot dosent it? Rdm if u stil want to keep your job,sit torres down on the bench. His done for me. David luiz is becoming a liability,he simply can not defend.

I think the RDM should receive the blame for the loss. Starting Torres and Sturridge together was pointless, Sturridge alone should have started. I believe RDM should have known by now that Mikel - Romeu combo won't work out for us.. and lastly, Moses should have been withdrawn, he was useless most of the time, should have given Marin a chance... The slow to recover Romeu-Mikel combo was why our midfield was porous and we conceded those goals...

3 things chelsea need disagree if you want but its what we need a tall quick centre back with a brain, a dominating centre midfielder someone who when you seem him coming to tackle you you poo yourself and lastly we all know we need a striker

@Latunvic - we got completely annihilated on the break with Moses on the right and you think he should have played Marin instead? For God's sake lads, you cannot go into each game with a 150% attack plan everytime.

Moses was useless most of the time???? #@$%^&

You can't blame Sturridge for the misses, he needs more time and confidence... Look at Giroud when he started for Arsenal, wasn't getting the goals though he had good runs and movements, he is starting to get the goals now....

Bring back Drogba till when you announce the signing of two new strikers come 1st of january or risk top4 spot

@Essa...DaBison....Sturridge to become a world class striker???? @Blue in Colorado....Fire RDM?????? Astute....YEOWWWWW!...not. :() We DO need a new striker in January...but it may be too late to be in the running for any trophies this year by then. We DO need to send Luiz a message and bench him for a while.

Our defenders and strikers are sh|t

agree with FrLamp.drop luiz and play iva with azpi at RB.i can't take it anymore with this QPR/Norwich defense!

We really should have a look at what Bamford can bring to the table. January's still some way off.

Its not just RDM that needs to tell some home truths some of the fans need to stop putting their head in the sand. David Luiz has been atrocious- costing the team goals every week yet 5 days later when it comes to predicting the team 80% of you on here pick him in your line ups. Its not a big problem for Luiz if his manager doesn't drop him and the fans love him despite his ineptitude at the back. Personally I would start Ivanovic and Cahill at the back thats until JT returns then start Ivanovic/JT. Bertrand should be a last resort and Cole should be given a 2 year rather than a one year deal.

Moses gave all sort of problems to west brom defense u fool!

That last one from Blue in Colorado had me in stitches, even at a time like this. Very childish, that.

Apperently we have been very poor since we announced a 1.4 million pound profit. Perhaps thats the reason Arsenal have been so poor over the years

Is Drogba training with us now? Can we borrow him?

has anyone noticed when teams play chelsea every one of the opposition players will have there best game they likely to have all season why agaisnt us lol no win in 4 games something needs to be addressed and quick

@Blue In Colorado - Yes of course, so much of a bigger fan than me that you can't even bear a defeat against West Brom away. So bigger a fan than me that you ask for RDM to be sacked when we are third in the league. Go fark yourself.

The defensive mids didn't do a particularly neat job of staying close to Morrison. He was the one creating all sorts of trouble with those long balls aimed at Long, but neither of those resulted in goals. One came of an absolutely schoolboy piece of marking, and the goalie could've saved the second. And Moses, though he somewhat faded out in the second half after switching flanks was a livewire throughout the first half. Really can't agree.

blue in colorado- grow some sense. you are talking a lot of bull. idiot.

People keep saying "we need this player" "we need that player"@#$#@$.... what we need is a good manager with some sound tactical brain.... and I'm glad Roman agrees.

Maybe rdm's team selection was dodgy, but when you've just had a pointless international break in the last week then team rotation was a must, however does that mean that the players who came in to replace the norm are not good enough, it's all well and good having the creativity in the side but if you are failing to score goals and defend properly then you have a serious problem. Why oh why have we left our selves in this position.

Painful loss no doubt by our standard as fans and as a club…we could have won the match but truth is we did not..the truth no matter how one looks at Chelsea, we are still a team in transition..yes we had a good start but it does not change the fact that we are a team in transition. Despite this fact, I made some observations: I have watched Bertrand closely this season, he is a decent young player but not an excellent left back or left sided mid field….decent is the word to describe him. As a left back, he was all over the place against Shaktar (to be honest), almost single handedly costing us the match, and was not good today (together with Luiz). I think the path of wisdom is either give Ashley cole a decent 2 year extension so that we can observe how Bertrand evolve, or sign a decent left back that can slot in immediately while Bert remains a squad player…. We are short in central midfield and we need one extra player to compliment Mikel and Ramires..Romeu is still a bit far off…Wish Essien had stayed at least for this season, he has been playing decently well at madrid but that’s history… I will keep the striker bit simple. FT9 no more deserves to be on our payroll and while Sturidge is clearly an upgrade on FT9, he is not good enough to be our first choice striker, he is an able back up at best. Before you argue it, just look at our rivals and check their main strikers..Man U (Van persie), City (Aguero or Tevez), and even outside England, it’s the same. Just to make a point to FT9, we should make Danny the first choice striker till January and by then get in a quality striker, it does not have to be 50 million, but someone that has positional sense and that can actually finish. If Long or Odemwinge was our striker today, I have no boubt that we would have won. By January, Torres should be sold for whatever price before he inflicts the dressing room with a sulking attitude. Lets deal with it, not all investments work out and bear fruit. So while we are still in transition, I think we need two players (if we extend Cole’s contract) or three if we don’t…A quality striker, a central midfielder and a left back (if we choose to release Cole)…Although may be a smart thing to do will be to sign a quality striker, give Cole a two year contract and recall Essien..Whatever we do…truth is we are still 3-4 players short of overall quality and it is so obvious… And RDM need to stop playing Romeu-Mikel, they are both defensive and we are one player short in the attacking third...none of both is a box to box...an appropriate double pivot in my opinion is a DM and a box to box...i hope RDM is learning...even though one has to start thinking if he will realistically finish two years here let alone an extension NB: if Barca comes back with at least 25 million for Luiz, we should sell without much taught.

We need Superman back, good that the injury isent as bad as first thought.

Are we not missing @mq here today? Please i need to read why Mikel caused us 3 points today. @Mq knows these....

I dont blame rdm atall for today's loss,everyone on VC has been clamouring for change of players in some games which he did today with juve in mind and also resting few key players. Romeu did well today,so did azpi,betrand and studge. With a litle bit mor work on our defence,we will be fine till jan when we welcom the ruthles columbian..keep the faith

if you play badly and end up winning it is because someone scored a goal. strikers bail you out. look at the manchester sides. i doubt united have played better than we played today in any game. average team but quality strikers.

@Merlin my diction was clean and I'm sorry if anyone's offended. However, it must be said that @frlamp and @blueisdcolor constantly use profane language and intentionally make it visible.

@people complaining for rotation: Mata travelled from England to Panama and only got back on thursday, Oscar and Ramires went to the US and only got back on thursday. This trips destroy you mentally and physically because of the time differences and the long hours in the plane. You ever travelled at all? Most people need at least a week to get used to the jet lag. Also, considering that we have a CRUCIAL match against Juventus on TUESDAY it was a very good decision to rotate today imo. It was a no brainer. We asked for rotation last week and we got it, now we can't complain about it. I think defense lost us the game today, simple as that. They shot twice and scored twice, ridiculous.

Also, people complaining about Mikel-Romeu combo, im not a big fan of that combination either but we weren't outplayed today in the midfield imo, WBA got three chances, they scored two. The first goal was a David Luiz mistake and the second was a good play for them and Luiz got late and Bertrand didn't mark well. Where was the Mikel-Romeu combo guilty for the goals today? They didn't even had much chances to begin with.

RDM is to blame for our defensive frailities though we are starting to look like last season with AVB always look like conceding a goal when teams counter attack against us and we are unable to keep clean sheets

Give Luiz the Fellaini/Yaya role. I'm now convinced he doesn't belong in the defense. He is not a DM neither. Coming from deep suits him. It's what's he tries to do every game.

I seriously do not understand folks some times. You spend weeks and months complaining about rotation and when RDM gives it to you, you still complain. Oscar played in the early hours of Thursday morning against Columbia; someone up there just told you about Mata's travel schedule. Moses got his chance in this game. Sturridge played 90 minutes. So did Romeu. We have a Champions League qualification which is much more more important than today's game from a financial and on the pitch perspective at a difficult Juve stadium. I believe Conte is coming to sideline as well. The calls to play Marko Marin is mind bugling. Di Matteo said the kid is still not a 100% fit. That's why he is playing with the U21s to get fit. Anyone who watched Marko in the Bundesliga last year knows how fragile the guy is. Qualification out of the group stage is much more important than 3 points against West Brom. It at least buys RDM and us time till January to get in some decent striker(s). Sacking RDM doesn't solve anything. Pep Guardiola or Busquet can't solve the chances we were missing today or the lackadasical embarrassing performance from a top 10 football earner who just duped Abramovich as the worst scam in the history of football.

I honestly believe we should promote bamford to our bench. The pure and simple reason for Marin not playing is because are now finding ourselves down in games and RDM starts panicking reverts to type, not actually realising that Marin may change a game. It's my only problem I have with him, he makes some of the weirdest subs at the weirdest times. Maybe a couple of boring defensive 1-0 wins in the next few games would do the trick nicely, after all its what RDM does best.

though i do not want 2 blame rdm but if we dont beat juve or at least nick a draw and outplay them, then whats d use of resting players 4 a similarly important game like todays where we needed a win 2 keep up with d manchesters.

Where is Rajkovic?

@Carloss86 stop the crap about player plaing mid week, are our players the only one? Guess Madrid and Barca will rest most of their players today, because they played in midweek too and have equally important CL match nxt week. Nonsense

I wish that people blaming RDM for today's result would tell us what else could've he done to win this game... I think we're not playing badly but it's a mix of bad luck and bad defense putting inmense pressure on our forward players. Now more than ever i've come to realize that that quote that says "defence wins championships" is very true..

Jet lag is not enough reason to play a combo that will make u lose. If u watch the game more closely u will realize the goals were a result of the inability of both holding midfielders to recover quick enough from advance positions... u will always see such goals as the defenders fault but the ball was not lobbed from the opposition's defense, it moved on the ground till it found its way into our box... RDM will learn, just that he is a slow learner, took him months to realize that right wing isn't Ramires's best position...

@sojofjand I already answered about that but I guess you didn't read it. Mourinho's situation is very different than RDM's because he doesn't have many players that made the intercontinental trip. As a matter of fact only Albiol started the game vs Panama so the comparison is lame.

torres - keeps cutting and trying to pass and not shoot. Sturridge - gets in positions but his finishing is really quite You play them both and when Torres needs to shoot he will pass it to sturridge who will be in a worse position but still shoot. Conversely if Sturridge needs to pass he shoots. And he misses. He was as wasteful against United, only when he ran through and cut the keeper did he finish. We are crying out for a finisher. And Ivanovic needs to start over luiz at least for a while since Luiz is just prone to concentration lapses. He has done well at times, but of late he has been off. And we are missing lampard. yes. we lack the transitional play from midfield to attack. Ramires can run the ball through but passes are not coming from the midfield. Romeu at least switches the play that helps in transition. And Mikel has got into some positions that Lampard would get into, and you know how lampard finishes.

@Latunvic So we lost today because Romeu started instead of Ramires???

YOU know. i have an idea. Lets play lampard as striker. or at least in attacking midfield, with Oscar behind him in the pivot. Has lampard played with the triumvirate? I doubt. His finishing is better than 90% of strikers. He will get on the end of chances more than torres and finish better than sturridge.

Dan Levene ‏@BluesChronicle Di Matteo difficult to read, but in that presser he looked very much like a manager who had just read his team the riot act. Not happy.

Mia you raise a really great point there, that's exactly what is happening, this striker conondrum and Luiz defense become boring seriously, every week..geez

Mia-lampard can't hold the ball to play upfront..

January - swap Luiz for David Villa and Torres for Falcao - simples - lets hope we aint too far behind by then....!!

Even the Fox sports analysts here blamed the loss on di matteo. These so-called "fans" here have depleted their expectations to the extent that a loss to west bromide (home or away) is now acceptable. we r d **$#$** European champions and should be winning games like this! Forget that Torres is not scoring, but a good manager will be winning with this team BUT THE TEAM HAS NO IDENITY. It sometimes feels like Robbie assembled a group of world class players, put them in blue strips and ordered them to play together... I don't feel I am watching Chelsea DC anymore nowadays... we keep leaking goals and juventus away will be painful to watch now.

and i don't want to blame RDM for the moment, i will give my judgement until January, when hopefully we get a striker who can actually scores and clinical

I blame Ken Bates!!

See guys, RDM can definitely learn from his mistakes, his mistakes are acceptable but must be pointed out. With the jet lag and all similar excuses, we still could have won the game or at least drew with the right team selection.... Chelsea isn't the only team with players who were on national duty... @Kaku, if you can identify Torres as a scam, RDM should also have. @Carloss86, we didn't lose cos of Romeu but cos of Romeu-Mikel combo, Torres starting, Moses left on the pitch for 90mins, and over-all game plan... tactics..... If you are starting Romeu and Mikel, then u should have an over-all game plan/tactic it will work with...

to have a descent chance of the league we need to stop conceding goals and score a few our selves some thing we cant seem to do we need to look at what we need to do to address this problem,on our day we could beat anyone so a run in the ecl is more realistic than a sustained epl challenge ,by jan it will be too late a couple of weeks ago we were 4 pts clear now look at it

I dont understand some of you people saying sturridge cant finish like he have been playing all this season you guys do know its the first game he started in the EPL this season. he created the chances look dangerous got unlucky twice by 2 great saves from the keeper. but you cant say his a bad finisher like its law. we need a striker true but we need good rotation. give credit when credit is due sturridge look good today and i have no doubt the more he play will score boat loads of goals for us. seriously people this aint fifa 13 what you expected from a player who`s trying to get into the grove of things.

@Latunvic, Torres had to play for both Oscar and Mata to rest and for Marin to fully heal. RDM has said he will make changes to the starting XI to get some win and confidence back. That to me sounds like I am banishing Torres out of the starting lineup to save MY JOB. I also do not know who should have started for Ramires since his energy is needed against Juventus's energetic midfield and he played with Oscar in midweek. Lampard is injured. Merieles was sold and Essien is on loan. What did people think he should have done? Play Ramires today and then Tuesday again making it 270 minutes of football in 6 days?

Class heqader from Pilkington.

I am reading comments in here and I am really shaking my head at some pitiful fans in here, last week when I was complaining legitimately, I was cussed, atleast I backed my criticism with some facts, why in heavens name did we lose today? if u believe u know the reason, tell us with facts and reasonable arguments what we did wrong in this game and how it is rdm's fault.

We need a leader in the field. Without Drogba, Lamps, and Terry - we lack a natural leader to guide our team forward.

I think our issues are the following. We are leaking goals and our defense (left) side is not quite good enough. When you pair a decent at best Bertrand with an unfocused Luiz, we just look very shaky on that side.

Our midfield is usually ok, but we needed the energy and drive of Ramires. Having Romeu and Mikel together is not dynamic enough. Not that they were at fault, and they played relatively well, it is just not dynamic enough. Usually this is not a problem, and today we were just trying to rest Ramires.

Torres was anonymous. He has been in the last several games. I don't blame Danny though, he's a bit rusty and needs to get into the rhythm. He had a few good runs and with a few more minutes he should be able to do better.

We need three players: a CF, a Right winger, and an agile and quick DM like the Fernandinho dude at shaktar.. If we cant play Oscar as deep lying midfielder then we need to get one. All these four players should be quality and reliable ones not signings like Marin, Moses and Torres.... Marin is good but injury prone and is therefore a waste, Moses not top quality for starting role, Torres, a waste...

@hazardeden10: "I can not believe I scored the head lol. Anyway the defeat hurts. good evening all." #CFC

Manshet lost haha

Whaooo... Norwich's keeper made great saves... he made sure they won the game... I'm glad manutd lost, i prefer to see mancity on top than manutd...

ManU loss just made my day. Up Norwich

hahahahaha suk it manshet hahah

We need to sort our defense before january, or else we'll still have something to complain about again and again..we need someone that will be our hidden weapon to change a game like hernandez, a joker if u get what I mean.

We are missing our Captain. We would have won against Liverpool and WBA with Terry, he makes our defence very solid and organized. We shouldn't have lost 4 points against Liverpool and Swansea, we would have been on 28points with City on top of the table.

Azpi-Iva-Cahill-Cole is our best backline for now, Luiz and Ryan need to be benched and seriously spoken to, they are costing us points.

If Barca bring that 35m pounds offer again for Luiz, we should not hesitate, sell him, he will suit Barca's style of play. We can use the cash to get Hummels who to me is the best young CB on earth, he is young but experienced and very disciplined. He will cost about 35m quid. Iva, Terry, Hummels and Cahill will make a hell of CB options at RDM's disposal. Ryan has alot to learn from Cole, Cole must stay, we badly need him. Wallace will be deputy to the fantastic Azpi @RB.

I think Romeu was great, he can be an Alonso, his passing was on point and he made some interceptions. The problem is he cannot play with a player like Mikel, he needs someone Like Rami, Raul or Modric with plenty of forward movements to play with him. Mikel-Romeu combo was not as bad as some of you put it, infact, they did well today compared to the Swansea game but it is not a balanced combination. The board are to be blamed for letting Raul, Essien, KdB and Josh go without enough cover in midfield, an Injury to Mikel or Rami before January will hamper our season.

One thing is for sure...we will see loads of doom n gloom articles tomorrow.

This is far from "bad moment", we were extremely poor during Carlo and Avb's bad moments, we could not even string 3 passes together, we were crap in the final third and could not score, we had zero creaticity. We are extremely dangerous now in attack, we are creating chances that other teams can only dream of, we dont just have a CF that can actually score goals. Had Danny been given the support and game time Torres have had since the begining of the season he would have been the Epl top scorer by now. We also need to bench Luiz and Ryan and play Azpi-Iva-Cahill-Cole, and things will turn around completely.

guys who are saying romeu was good .. . he cost us the second goal.. mikel was forward and romeu rushed to take the ball of an opp player who simply passed it to the player romeu was initially marking.. so we had 3 v 4 .. n then the goal.. that guy has simply forgotten how to play football

SameX, Luiz will suit any team that scores 3 or 4 goals a game. Any team he plays for that only expects to score 1 or 2, he's a disaster. If Chelsea are to persist with Luiz they'll need to sign an absolutely lethal striker. From the moment Torres missed a great chance against Liverpool 2 minutes into his debut it was obvious he was going to be a disaster. I've always said Torres will destroy Chelsea as a championship winning team and that is exactly what hass happened. It is so frustrating to watch. Luiz and Torres need to be benched immediately.

We need to recall Josh in January and get a quality pivot beast as Mikel will be out for Afcon. Lamps may be going very soon anyway so we need depth in midfield. Someone mentioned Fernandinho, a guy i really like, he is a Ramires type of player with pace and energy but has better passing and tackling ability and he will not be as expensive as Fellaini..... Benat, Banega and Bender are also quality players that we can go for.

City and United will still drop plenty points, even with their CF's they still fail to win, the good news is the board can now clearly see that we need 1 or 2 quality CF's, a pivot player and a CB, they will be foolish to sack RDM as they are @fault for letting useful players like Raul and DD go without quality replacements, they are even about to let a 30 year old Ashley Cole go. Lets see where we are by Febuary and If the board will do their job and help RDM with 2 or 3 quality players and let some players GO!!

If we get good offers for Luiz, Lamps, Torres and some reserve players and get quality players like Hummels, Benat and Falcao to replace them we will definitely win the league and go far in the CL. If Danny refuses to sign a new contract sell him for 15m and bring in Ba to help Falcao. We need all the help we can get so we dont end up like Liverpool.

Dannygold - sorry disagree...about Lukaku...he needs to play. If you sign Demba Ba and Jovetic why would you want Lukaku rotting on the bench..the kid has massive upside and he needs to play. I would prefer a new world class #1 CF with Lukaku backing him up.

RDM rides his luck and he's not very tactical either. what he does is just put players in the field and hope not to lose. this was away game and away games you should play to win. why bench Oscar and Ramy and play Luiz? did not they all played internationals? cheap excuse i will say. Ryan is not good defender and i don't think he has Chelsea future. since he started to replace Ashley all hell broke from the left side. by the way those who believe Sturridge should start must be talking about another player because the Sturridge i watch is a selfish, one footed and cant see what goes around him. Sturridge will be sold January mark my words! anyway the season is just starting and i hope Roman will pay a visit again and bitch slap RDM to put some senses into his head.

if you watch chelsea playing you will see we have no tactics and you wont see RDM making any tactical changes and every game he approaches with the same strategy . we are just lucky that we have quality players.

Chelsea deserves a world class striker and manager end of story.

here my answer http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1412655-chelsea-lack-of-scoring-options-recent-form-troubling-for-big-week-ahead

El Sharraawy is on fire, just 21, he has been the only bright side of a crashing Milan team, he is the seria A highest goal scorer with 11goals(i think). Why dont our scouts get players like this before they are known.

fucxking imbeciles, don't you have any other thing to say except 'sack the coach' ??.Every single season we lose a match it's thesame people asking for the coach's head, dont you ever get tired of spilling thesame crap??Damn

Guys imagine how Bayern vs Chelsea would've been with Torres instead of DD.. Just saying, January can't come soon enough. The good thing about paying for Falcao's release clause is that we can get him on January 1st instead of January 31st..

And before Terry 1 Torres 0 there was Moses 1 Torres 0.

What a wicked day the 31st of January 2011 was! And yet at the time so many thought, myself included, that it could be a day that would forever change the face of this club, monumental statement of intent, blah blah blah! At least one of the two could've been a hit, but no, both had to bomb.

Di Matteo said: 'This season we are playing a little bit different but we might have to go back (to a previous formation) to be able to win games, and make sure first and foremost we don't concede. 'Maybe it is the time where we might have to change a little bit in terms of our selection and the way we play." If he's considering a change of formation too, this might be just what he's thinking about as well.

k.chelski: I agree with what you say - spot on - but Kalou? Or were you being sarcastic? I was pleased when the board or RDM finally got rid of players who weren't pulling their weight and Kalou was one of them. I was a Torres fan until this match but I don't really think it his fault - I just don't think his style of forward suits Chelsea's play and I am not making excuses for him. He should also try and cheer up a bit and not appear so niggly about everything. Although it is a serious situation for him and Chelsea he should lighten up a bit and not keep trying too hard but in the wrong way. Sturridge still doesn't crack it for me although he was an improvement on Torres this game. Yes we need strikers but for god's sake not players like Kalou (and Meireles and the others that were gotten rid of). I also think Mikel should be gotten rid of. Why Chelsea persist in keeping him I don't know - makes too many mistakes and wayward passes.

Cmon lads this always happens to us in November

i dont see the chelsea spirit now the players used to show before....now the players are playing just for the sake of playing....rdm dont have any tactics at all....he is acting like clueless...why you play torres when the whole world knows he has become a total sheeet....he is just waste of space and time....why play mikel romeu combo when you know that it wont works at all....last night they gave so much of space to morrison who was creating good oppurtunities for long.....we need a good dm...one who can boss the midfield on his own.....mikel is poor and for the last six years im just hearing he is improving...god only knows when will he improve....romeu needs more oppurtunities to improve.....we need to stengten our squad...when mata and oscar dont play we miss the certain zing to our play...we need to buy one or two midfielder....chelsea should go for isco and victor wamayo....one is a good play maker and other is an young good defensive midfieder....and for striker go for damio...young strong and has good scoring record...

VC members are so flicked that they just utter what ever comes in their mouth. i dont know how u can say RDM is tactically inept? he recognised that hazard is not effective in middle changed the position and he scored a goal. that tactical change worked. introduced oscar and mata to score a goal. if not for danny poor finishing we could have won the match. every one wants rotation and when we he does then blames RDM for not putting strong XI. our performance was not that bad some people are just exaggerating things here. why West brom won the match was because they were clinical. just like celtic won against barca or we won against barca. we need to be clinical in converting the chances other wise u will be punished with the result like this.

There was so much hype surrounding the Hazard, Mata and Oscar trio. But now I don't think many people are afraid of them anymore.

I am gutted we lost 3 points, but I think it's a bit too early to begin to call for the head of the coach. The team played okay, but poor finishing and lack of concentration cost us the game. I'm beginning to suggest we revert back to a counter attacking formation, I mean I cant stand the sight of us conceding goals comically. There's alot to still play for, and this team can only be better with time. You fickle-minded fans out there, if you cant be patient with the team, you can as well stop watching the them. Cheer up guys, I have a sneaky feeling we're gonna have a season yet again. #keepthefaith

Shaarawy turned 20 last month.

Which Bender? There are two?

The fact that we had been held to a draw earlier in the season by the rock bottom punching bag club QPR makes me feel that an extra 2 points had been lost unnecessarily.

nelyvanile, we should at least change tactics. It is no use for Torres to be looking for the ball in midfield. We must be more direct and start playing at the start of the game. We let in too may crosses and don't defend these carefully. I believe that we can play a lot better but we need to keep moving a lot more and giving ball holding players more alternatives. Take combined WBA and Chelsea squads and put the best eleven players out of it. How many WBA players do you get? I'm behind Chalesea 100%, but now I'm really angry. Mata should always start for me, even after internationals.

Barca had Valdes, Busquet, Pedro, Xavi, Iniesta and Villa in the Spanish team not mentioning D.Alves for Brazil and even Messi went to play against Saudi, same goes with Real you know all this, we can't keep mentioning names, you're just making excuses the rotation you want messed us up admit and let's move forward. I asked a question last week that if we eventually rotate and we lost what will you guys say? Now you making excuses, all the matches we've played before yesterday except for the Shaktar match no team has outplayed us, we created chances which we don't convert yet we complain and not talk about bad luck, but now we lost cause we rotated to what all of you desire and we lost you now start making excuses. I wouldn't have said anything about this match, but I just have to because I don't like the way you guys has been complaining about the team in the past few weeks even when we draw and clearly we are the better team. Please lets learn to stop complaining about football out comes we have to accept that you win some you lose some and I belief none of us in here knows as much as RDM. No matter what anybody feels or say, I belief we are a good team all we need is just some few adjustments in certain areas and we will be as good as any best team out there. Guys no hard feelings its all in the spirit of supportership .

when it comes to buying striker we always act late...we had chance to buy augero suarez torres( before liverpool)...falcoa last season....at less prices but we never went for them we wait for them to score more goals for their respective club and then we try to buy them at outrageous price....we never learn from our mistake...

I can understand the criticisms of luiz and his defending he is erratic but to say sell him is absolutely absurd.

This is what happens when you take away the heart of the team( Terry. Lampard and drogba.

There is only about 2 people in all of VC, who believes we lost yesterday's game due to roatation, so it says it all and I won't even waste my valuable time trying to change ur rather "skewed" reasoning. As for me, RDM did almost everything right, rotated intelligently considering the international games and the upcoming fixtures, he made almost inch perfect substitutions, we lost due to individual errors in defense and our dull attacking players, coupled with the fact that westborm were very disciplined, we should stop looking for what is not lost, rdm shhould just plug that leaky defense, make the strikers take shooting pratices as it was in the days of carlo and we scored 103 goals. And we'll be good to sail.

After reading this, if u still believe we lost due to our roation, then u are on your own and on a very long thing www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/2983516/title/final-whistle-verdict-back-problems

In simple terms there are 4 basic problems currently with Chelsea: 1) team defending - inability to quickly close down on the ball and play with urgency...2) lack of a passer/playmaker in the pivot who can quickly distribute the ball with both feet (Modric/Josh McEachran). Romeu can be sold as he will not be a long term Chelsea player. Mikel/Ramires can make a pass without giving the ball away. 3) Lack of a CF that is a difference maker and goal scorer. Sturridge will leave in January so a new #1 CF with a new backup is required. Need someone with confidence that will lead this team. #4) total lack of leadership on this team. Need a true leader. You can see why JT is so important to this team. Need someone that will place their foot up the ass of 1/2 of this team when required. RDM needs to hold players accountable which has not been done.

What did romeu do wrong in uyesterday's game that made u feel he is not chelsea's quality? He hardly placed a wrong pass, he made some intelligent pass to cesar for some of his runs, and he can only improve from there onward if managed properly

Romeu actually was pretty decent yesterday. If we weren't down 2-1, he even might have stayed on for the full 90.

We lost the game due to tactical unawareness. I saw a little Mourinho in Steve Clerke and that was what happened. He taught his players to be aware of their opponents and chelsea expected them to play a passing game. They never actually used their mid and were decent in defense. We still realized that chelsea have no answer to a defensive opponents.

Some fans keep talking thrash in here and they should be enlightened or else they'll damage the image of the club with their mediocrity, I asked a simple question and the peeps crying and moaning in here can't even make one correction on the game, apart from the fact that robbie didn't start ur favourite mazacar (since u think they are superhumans in ur skewed perspective) what did rdm do wrong? When u tell us then we'll know u lot knows what u are talking about, but till then, will u do us a favour and shut the feck up? Please shut up!