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Disgraceful!

Right, I don`t often write on this website (and never on any others), but this week`s events have pushed me to the brink.

Now, before we get the usual one or two leveling the "new age", "plastic fan" or "don`t remember the bad old days" jibes at me, I have been a fan man and boy for 24 years (I am only 27 now). I went to my first game when I was four, and have been to pretty much every home game (and a smattering of away games) since. I remember watching Dave Beasant let the ball dribble through his legs as we lost 3-2 to Norwich. I remember Paul Furlong messing up everything good that Ruud Gullit had done. Heck I even remember Robert Fleck, David Lee and other "luminaries" playing week in week out as we invariably scrapped for survival/mid table mediocrity.

However, nothing has hurt and affected me so much as the appointment of Rafa Benitez. So much so, that for the first time in my life, I am not going to the game on Sunday out of choice. I am not selling my ticket, or giving it to someone else. I want there to be an empty seat where I have been sitting for the past nearly quarter of a century. And I hope others follow. The reason? I can`t promise myself that I won`t boo Benitez. I can`t help myself. Every time I see him, my skin crawls. His appointment is the worst thing that has happened to this football club, and let me explain why:

1) It will completely divide the fans. It will be a very strange atmosphere on Sunday, and potentially beyond, and will completely alienate the board from the fans. Anyone who has supported Chelsea over the last 10 years will understand the hatred that has built up for Liverpool. Some of the games with Liverpool have been the most bitter I have ever been at. And all this was stoked by a fat Spanish manager winding up Chelsea fans, managers and players with his regular criticisms and jibes. He wound up Didier Drogba so much in fact that Drogba felt the need on one occasion to go and dive in celebration right in front of Benitez. Anyway, unfortunately for him (given yesterday`s appointment), it worked very well, and the very image of his face brings up nothing but bitter memories and severe dislike.

2) How on earth will the players be feeling? We all know how important it is at Chelsea (still) for the manager to have the senior players on side. Unfortunately for Benitez, all the senior players (JT, Lamps, Ash, Big Pete) were all heavily involved in the above period, and surely, egged on by one Mr Mourinho, would have built up a passionate hatred for Rafa. Those kind of feelings don`t disappear overnight. Especially if Benitez is replacing a popular manager, which we are led to believe RDM was.

3)Torres. Fernando, Fernando. This is just beginning to get silly. How much more can be done to try and get the best out of him? Is Roman just going to start paying off defenders to let him score (even then he would still actually have to put the ball in the back of the net). I find it very worrying that Abramovich is still so obsessed by Torres. Anyone that has watched him play over the past two seasons can see his legs have gone. He will never be the Fernando Torres of Liverpool. Injuries have taken their toll, and he just doesn`t have that yard of pace anymore. So appointing a manager seemingly largely to get the best out of one player just seems ludicrous. Furthermore, how is that going to make the other players feel? I suspect Oscar, Mata and Hazard may be slightly bemused as to why a team is being built around a striker who doesn`t score, assist, and has frankly shown an appalling attitude for too long now.

4)Finally, even though I could go on for hours, the most worrying thing for me is what has happened this week shows one of two things: Either Abramovich is being very badly advised by people around him who are both thick and know little about what it means to be a Chelsea fan. Or, Abramovich himself simply doesn`t give a stuff what the fans think anymore. Now, I will never say Abramovich should go, and would always thank him for what he has done for the club, but if this latter point is the case, I am really, really worried about my football club. It increasingly looks like it is becoming the mere plaything of a rich and ruthless oligarch. And it doesn`t really matter what the fans think. I don`t think I have ever heard a bunch of fans singing songs about a manager they are rumoured to be approaching until the well worded invitation to Rafa to stay away from the Bridge. Yet we still appoint him. Unbelievable

I am, this morning, a very depressed Chelsea fan, making the decision to not go and watch the club I absolutely love and have put so much into for 25 years. The club is becoming an un-recognisable shadow of the football club it used to be, and I, and many others don`t like it. Do the board care? Worryingly, I don`t think so……




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Writer: foreverblue  Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday November 22 2012

Time: 12:58PM

Your Comments

Pathetic to let your personal dislike based on battles past stop you from supporting your club.
Bluedub
Ooh stop it. This is rediculous, Rafa is a damn good coach and we should all get behind him, shame on anyone putting their petty feelings ahead of Chelsea FC. I for one will always support Chelsea that means the manager. Shame on all of you, how dare you even suggest giving Rafa hell, so what. He will still be Chelsea manager till the end of the season at least. What he said was said as a Liverpool manage and should be left to those days, we will only embrass our selves and make the team nervous when we need to beat City. How dare you try and get people to support a stupid caus. There more important matters than your trivial and juvenile mentality. Chelsea is more important than you, Rafa and any other fan who support any stupid ideas like yours.
faara23
faara23...I hope he's a damn good coach...he also won a UCL (through a ghost goal against us and virtuoso Gerrard performance in Turkey) and an FA Cup (Against us) But he failed at Inter...and no matter what that counts...also he was out of a job for how long???? I don't know....everything in me says that he is not a good coach, but I feel I need to give him a chance...I just hope I am wrong, and I will celebrate a new legend being born in SW6.
Gian-Franco/Luca
I have said it exactly along the lines about this with my conversations with my friends at office and home..This is the first time in my life of supporting cfc for more than 16 years i have no answers for the mockery of the other fans...WE ARE A LAUGHING STACK..WE ARE A PLAYING TOY FOR A MAD RUSSIAN FAN..Nothing else.Who can or how can i argue with them?Even yesterday after the sacking of RDM i thought there may be a slight 0.001% possibility that something horribly wrong behind the scenes that the fans like us dont know..But with the appointment of RAFA CFC has completely and 100% became a laughing stock of entire football world.You cant change this anytime soon.Oh by the way my dislike for RAFA is not bcz he is a bad manager.Although he is somewhat a good and exp manager yet its beggars the belief that our board and the mad russian is so clueless about what fans will think.If anybody thinks that RA invest money and he can do what he want with CFC with out looking long and hard about sentiments and how it will reflect on the image of cfc then he can pack his bags.I am grateful for what ever he has done for us but we are not a mad mans toy..We are CFC..The emotional attachment is what makes each and every club tick..With out fans CFC is nothing..Even RA invest another 10B with out the passion of fans SB wil be a graveyard.Nothing else..With out FANS there will be no barca no madrid no utd no cfc..I think RA damaged lot of his good will among the CFC support by this ill advised move to appoint RAFA for RDM.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Today our board and RA appointed RAFA and sacked RDM with out any class.Next year they will dig up the ashes of Osgood from the penalty box in the Shed End bcz the players are not able to shoot penalties well..With out sentiment and emotional attachment of the fans no football club can survive.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@faara23 @Gian-Franco/Luca the major point is not RAFA is a good manager or a better manager than RDM..The main point of lot of fans is the classless sacking of RDM and the appointment of rafa who is hated to the core by cfc support for his liverpool connection..I know his liverpool connections are in the past but the fans wont take it lightly with the comments like "plastic flag" "With out RA we are a nobody club" Jose is achieving just bcz of money etc..
BlueAndWhiteArmy
What a silly article! You go on like this is some kids game and that rafa is the boy 'we shouldn't mix with'. Grow up dude, this is football, this is business. When rafa was at pool, he represented pool. Now his at Chelsea he will represent us. You go on as if rafa did something personal to you and now U wanna boycott ur seat for that, that's just pathetic. His a damm football manager and a very intelligent one at that. Who cares if you're not going to the games anymore over a silly childish 'vendetta' with a guy you've never even met. There will always be fans with or without ur supposed love for the club you've now decided to boycott...
Slippy G-19
I just read something very funny and here it is: "The introduction of Eden Hazard and Oscar appears to take its inspiration from the idea of female pandas being brought to a zoo - in the desperate hope that Torres can be stirred into action. Is Benitez just the latest attempt to reignite the forward's fire? One wonders whether it is any less daft than the notion that Manchester United should have appointed Gerard Houllier last season in an effort to get Michael Owen fit and firing".
eddy_theeel
Faara23..he insulted chelsea fans back in the day he was 'pool manager....tbh I will not be supporting Benitez whilst he is chelsea manager...I dont care how well he does..I'll just be counting down the days until he is kicked out .... RDM won the CL for us......I doubt Tubby will get us very far and I think we'll struggle for 4th again......he personally will not get any support from me....BUT I will support the 11 on the pitch as always..regardless of who is playing....
Embers
I'm sorry, but this has become a case of emotions getting in the way of reason. But really, why should it? FFS, you are CFC fans first, and then everything else comes second. So what you don't agree with the boards decision to rid of RDM and appoint Benitez? Fine, but then support your club only to make sure they get through this difficult phase very quickly. Everybody is quick to slate Benitez when he hasn't even begun his job yet. I for one don't approve of him as a manager, I just don't, but hey, I don't make the decisions and this is not the first time the board has made a decision which I don't approve of. We are where we are now. So we continue from here, whether it is backward or forward with Benitez, we would never know until after a few games. You never know, he gets off to a good start, and we are right up there in the end. Think Blackburn last season, see where the fan's disdain for their manager got them.
pricesoft
I agree with the article 100%. The board (includes Roman) ignored the fans' sentiment completely. I never took it seriously when rival fans say Chelsea is a plaything of Roman. But it really hurts now, because I am realising it is a fact.
Keyser Soze
Foreverblue, I am a Chelsea fan for over 3 decades now. I am 40, and I know quite well what Chelsea is all about. I've experienced many good and bad times as you mentioned. However, not going on Sunday and supporting our beloved team because the owner of this club (and NOT the team) chose to appoint an invidious manager, I'm sorry, is not an excuse. This manager will wear the jacket with the badge of OUR team. He will be in charge of OUR team and he will command the game of OUR players. Whoever he is we have to show our support and push OUR team to win this crucial game. The most important thing in life is the present. Forget about the past. Forget what is not yours. And this is the club. But the team is OURS. It will never be nobody's else. So, as your display name suggests, I'd advise you to get your ticket and fill in your seat. Once a blue, always a blue.
Blu
Benitez said, he would never manage Chelsea out of respect for Liverpool. This man was desperate for a job. There is a reason why is was out of job for 2 years despite winning multiple CL trophies. He is so desperate that he agreed to be the "interim manager" of Chelsea. Chelsea got rid of someone who broke his leg playing for the club and brought in a mercenary of lowest order.
Keyser Soze
Tottaly understand the view of this writer...
Tegzluiz
@Keyser Soze Like i said RA can invest another 10B but he cant attach spend more time and emotional attachment like most of the fans.Lot of fans are sacrificing whole lot of time money emotional attachment yet the club is acting on a whim..We are a plaything of RA.It was proved beyond doubt yesterday with the appointment of RAFA.This is the first time i was honestly not able to say anything to the opposition when they taunt me
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Sorry!!! What if its the right Decision???
chuks09
Thank you Keyser. For some of you making these comments, I dont understand why you are simply focusing on my personal hatred of Benitez. Yes I hate him. But the key point is this: The board, knowing full well that Benitez was in fact the least popular choice amongst fans judging by actual songs being sung about him, banners, statements from the supporters clubs, and yet they went ahead and did it anyway. what more could Chelsea fans have done to make their point? It just really, really worries me that our views are being increasingly ignored and our soul is being destroyed. That is what has driven this
foreverblue
Cool it guys this is football. I dont understand why so many chelsea fans trusted and surpported Torres so much even when it was clear he is a joke. And yet you wouldnt give Rafa the slightest chance to prove himself. In football your loyalty lies with the club paying your bills. So for all of u that hate Rafa so much just because he was loyal to Liverpool should seriously cool it. Lets give him our support now that his loyalty lies with our beloved CFC
Realmike
Footballers, managers and administrators of football are the most beautiful liars and diplomatic people in the whole universe. We have heard players say "i will never play for that club" yet they end up plying for such club, anybody expecting a chelsea manager to not take a jibe at opposition club doesn't undertstands what it means to represent your employer in football. Even though i hate the manner in which Roman have handled the club with his managerial prostitution, i will not hate Rafa because of his past while at fools. Get behind him, he might just be the lost chronicle that Roman has desired.
munich Glory
@Blu the team is OURS? The Club is OURS? are you kidding me mate.The action of our board and RA doesnt reflect it or even acknowledging that CFC has fans.I dont think any of our fans are wishing ill will for the team or RAFA or players for that matter.Its all the frustration with the way the board and RA treated RDM. RDM is one of us..Mind it..the guy who broke his leg in 3 places the guy whos carrier cut short at just 31 while playing for CFC. The guy who for the passion he has for CFC accepted the interim job and did his best and won us 2 trophies.Yet he is treated like $hit.If the board and RA treats a man who will bleed blue like this then what has the world comes to? What is the point in attaching emotionally with this? Draining our money and time with it?
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@BAWA, I have exactly the same opinion as you, and I bet as the vast majority of our fans. I DID NOT want this guy as our manager and yes the club had been disgraceful and ruthless towards RDM. But, this is the situation when a club is owned and run by a single man, mate. We have to accept that. I was only referring to foreverblue who'll not go to the stadium on Sunday. This is not the solution, in my opinion. I am very angry as well. But then what? I will not be a Chelsea fan for 2 hours on Sunday because the owner decided to sack our manager? Of course, I will support our (yes OUR) team whoever is in charge. Imagine, if all our fans choose not to attend the game on Sunday? Empty seats. How will the players feel? They need us. And we must win.
Blu
I have no other club to call my own, i derive no joy in watching other teams and i will never take any other team except chelsea nomatter what. Win Or Lose, Champions Or Relegated, Rafa Or RDM Or Anybody, Roman Or Not, the only thing i know and i will always cherish is CHELSEA
munich Glory
@Blu The pblm is with these type of classless decision is what sucks the soul out of the fans and the clubs end up as a laughing stock of the world..God if RA acts like this on a whim what will happen if our fans sing about him this sunday unpleasantly? What will happen then? Will he take a decision to sell up on a whim like this and make us go bust?What i am saying is there is always a thin line a club must not cross..i dont think lot of ours fans are angry with the appointment of RAFA.They are more angry bcz of the way RDM was treated. That is why there is much more opposition for RAFA. If the club will sack a legend and manager who bought us CL&FA in 3 months on a mans whim with out any coherent strategy or thought what has become of our beloved club?
BlueAndWhiteArmy
totally agree with this article and feel the same way myself. but as most of the above comments would seem to suggest a few good results and the johnny come latelys will be eating out of the psalm of his hand! i'm sick to the pit of my stomach and feel like throwing up!
trueblue44
Mourinho while at chelsea said "Ronaldo is a cheap poor boy from a very poor village in portugal". Guess what??????
munich Glory
Also, attitude of not listening to fans is particularly worrying/unnerving given all the discussions about moving going on at the moment. What is to say we dont end up near Heathrow or something because it is cheap and easy. Regardless of what the fans think. Thank god for the pitch owners at this moment in time, but you never know
foreverblue
Faara23 and SlippyG,i understand the views of the article and its obvious to the average person that the write made those decisions in the heat of the moment, but for you both to just crucify him and call him/his article silly,stupid,juvenile mentality is quite aggressive and shocking!! I think you both should apologize,He took his time and he has only aired his views,YOU PEOPLE SHOULD LEARN TO CRITICIZE WITHOUT INSULTING OTHERS!
3nity
Foreverblue, this is the time to stand for our players. So, please grow up. Rafa was doing his job as Liverpool boss, now he will do the job for Chelsea. If we can embrace a Liverpool player who was scoring against us for fun then we should embrace RAFA as well.
kunthechelseafan
Blu----All i can say regarding your 1st response to the article is ''GOD BLESS YOU''. Youve shown a lot of class with that response and we all should learn from you.
3nity
good post munich glory. but i understand where others are coming from. imean if roman treated zola this way...i would go ballistic....maybe foreverblue had that level of adoration for rdm (which would be understandable) i love rdm too but i would never not watch cfc.
Gian-Franco/Luca
This is really a sad moment for the club, it would be wrong of me to choose side now that i am angry. I'll just wait till some other time to air my view.
torvicson
Jose mourinho
yash_blue
plz all of you guys who go to the bridge regularly plz demand Roman to get Jose back coz he is the only man who can sort us out
yash_blue
OOOh, Pooh pooh, I am sorry that you feel you were insulted by Rafa. So what, how can anyone campaign to bring Rafa down, Its tantamount to treason, any acts against RAfa are now actions against Chelsea. I for one am not surprised that RDM was fired, When the season started we were chasing 7 trophies, Lost the Community Shield, got humiliated by Atheltico, humbled in the league, almost out of the Champions league. Can anyone honestly say we had any confidence in RDM fixing the problems or we were just drifting listlessly and by January we would have been out of the race. The very same people that you claim are laughing at us are the very same people who were calling us lucky to win the Champions league.
faara23
cole to us, van P to man u, roony to everton, cudachi to spurs, steve clark to liverpool, zola to west ham, etc etc etc , torres to chelsea, etc etc etc every goes for the job and money and kisses the badge before going some where else,,,,
starginga
My Love for football started pretty early, as my father was a coach for a local community Club. My Dad was a hardened CFC fan,and i slowly got attached to Chelsea as a kid and would discuss strategy over the dinner table at a really tender age. You grow pretty emotional and attached to the club,it becomes part of ur every day life...The more older you get the more attached u get. I create a budget for my Chelsea expenses every season,tickets merchandise,travels...Its my money and its my emotions involved. I go to games and sing my Lungs out,Cheer the team with my last breath(and all that doesn't count for ***** bcos our owner can make whatever decision with total disregard for fans)...Over the few years I have become calmer with age (health). Yesterday's announcement brought back that emotional spark and fire,I felt emotionally drained and aggravated(most can tell from my posts yesterday) . First and Foremost we sacked and made a club legend look stupid to replace him with a scouser reject,with total disregard for fans opinion. It was Obvious Robbie would get the sack sometime,but come on!!! the man could have been treated with some respect. I understand when most people talk about backing the manager or whoever is in charge...but permit me mates,I don't have a short memory...This emotions of hate don't just disappear overnight...for years Rafa was viewed as the enemy,not just bcos of the connection with the scousers(Am sure u understand the personal hate for the scousers as kids),but bcos of the insults directed to fans. This are emotions,and they run deep...Scoring against the scousers while Rafa was in charge was like a rush of sweet emotions...'In your face you fat *****' we would scream from the stands. Roman has been a great owner and pretty thankful we have someone like him,but before Roman,there was Chelsea FC,and after Roman there still will be CFC...We as fans are a huge representative of the Clubs passion and tradition. The disregard we got for the decision made,makes you wonder what your stand is at the club. Like I said yesterday,i will be at the game on sunday,I will support my club as always,but hear me you...Ill chant 'Who's that fat spanish waiter? Mayday Mayday...The enemy is in our dug out' nuff said.
nelyvanile
cole to us, van P to man u, roony to everton, cudachi to spurs, steve clark to liverpool, zola to west ham, etc etc etc , torres to chelsea, etc etc etc every goes for the job and money and kisses the badge before going some where else,,,,
starginga
cole to us, van P to man u, roony to everton, cudachi to spurs, steve clark to liverpool, zola to west ham, etc etc etc , torres to chelsea, etc etc etc every goes for the job and money and kisses the badge before going some where else,,,,
starginga
@all, if u are a fan that really know the worth of our ex players who sacrificed a lot for the club, u'll understand that its not rdm's sacking that is making fans mad as hell, its the fact that he was played as a fool, if rdm wasn't retained in the summer, fans won't be this mad, but the guy was sacked as soon as his plane got to heathrow!!! And they replaced him with a dude who called drogba a coward and a diver, the same drogba who wants to play for chelsea by going to seek a loan move just to solve our striking problem, he called lampard who is an excellent footballer overated, how can this two players play under this man without the man apologizing publicly? And why must roman do something like this without thinking of the fans? We know that he has the interest of the club in his heart, but there will be NO CHELSEA without its fans and that's the ugly truth, something like this will make the pitch owners more wary of roman and make him highly unpopular among them.
Desmondadonis
@Foreverblue, supporting your club is like being in a relationship with unrequited love. We are not important and have not been important for many years, even pre-Roman. It's time to accept that the only influence we have at Chelsea FC is our voices of encouragement from the stands. They know we will hate them one minute, then love them another. If Rafa wins the league you'll put the past behind you and be singing his name, right?
pancake
So as far as I am concerned, rafa should do what bizarre suggested and apologize then do a fair amount of winning in style and I trust the cfc family, they'll love him sooner than u think, but he needs to admit he was wrong as bizarre_blue suggested
Desmondadonis
Okay, I understand all the talk about insults to fans, hatred for Liverpool and Benitez, history, respect for club legends, love for RDM, Rafa's insults, etc...... but more than that, I think the most important thing for us is to get back to winning ways and the team needs the fans support in order to achieve this. I would rater we translate all our frustrations into stronger reason, zeal and passion to support our team (not the coach)... Even in the midst of our tribulations and confussions, we need to stand up to support the team and not demoralize them the more... Rafa has been appointed, for now, give him an opportunity to do the job and get us out of the current predicaments we find ourselves in.... A. cole came from a rival club, Mourinho has said terrible things about C.Ronaldo and Madrid before he became their coach... etc, it's football, people say things out of passion, and even if you still don't find that acceptable, I don't think making matters get worse by killing the spirit and passion at SB is the right thing to do either....
Latunvic
Empty seats at the bridge... No change there then!
TomYid
I defer to the thoughts and concerns of our loyal CFC supporters. If they have issues with Tubby...then I have issues with Tubby.
lamarochs
if it weren't for Roman we MOST DEFINITELY wouldn't be the stature that Chelsea is, either back him that he's made the right decision or quit following the club. He does everything with the right intention, and we've always seen how eventually things come together so articles such as this are pathetic (no offense) because if you truly loved Chelsea you'd have moved on by now
@Mq
Do you love the club or individuals?? For the "love" of Chelsea, support the club and where necessary criticize but never despise the club because of individuals, if that's you then off you go. We'll get more fans with success :)
@Mq
David Bond ‏@DavidBondBBC FA has decided NOT to bring disciplinary charges against Mark Clattenburg following allegations of inappropriate language made by Chelsea.
KAKUfrank
Think Football ‏@Think_Football Mikel has been charged by the FA following an alleged altercation with ref Mark Clattenburg after the CFC MUFC game
KAKUfrank
My goodness.Mikel has been charged.Lukamolski must have gone mad.
cfc250
@Kaku...it sure has been a *****ty week...hearing Mikel got charged as well for abusive language.
nelyvanile
No POSTER deserves to tell any fan or question any fans love of the club because they back or do not back RAFA BENITEZ. And all this back Rafa Benitez because he has been hired by the club is ABSOLUTELY RUBBISH especially given the history of this particular COACH with Chelsea fans. It is their right and given how the battle over those years were, I don't BLAME THEM. Do you know how Barcelona fans will feel if Mourinho is appointed as their coach? Camp Nou will be on FIRE as we speak!!!!! Those fans don't play. My beef is actually with the BOARD AND ROMAN ABRAMOVICH and I will write about that soon enough......
KAKUfrank
Talking about double standards!!! Lord have mercy on our souls.
Desmondadonis
ROMAN FIRED AVB AND ITS PROVED AND STILL PROVING TO BE THE RIGHT DECESION. I WILL SUPPORT CHELSEA FC FOREVER AND WITHOUT OUR BENEFACTOR WE WOULD BE f*******. sO PLEASE SHOW SOME RESPECT. rdm WAS HUMBLE ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT WAS AN HOUNOUR TO COACH THE TEAM. hE IS GOING TO BE PAID MILLIONS (DONT FEEL SOORY FOR HIM, hIS LIFE IS better than any of us.) All this stupid idealistic ideas of Rafa this and Rafa that. What did you want Roman to do call each one of you and ask for permission to hire Rafa. Its doesnt matter whether you get fired on the plane or in an Office you are stoill fired. RDM was just out of his depth. I am glad and feel at least secure in the knowledge that we finally have a coach who is proven and can at least get us a champions league spot.
faara23
All of you saying he was @ Liverpool when he was against Chelsea really surprise me. What about his "I will never accept Chelsea job out of love for Liverpool bla bla bla". That was after he left Liverpool. Foreverblue is entitled to his opinion.
Ibidayo
Look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPch4HPr0CQ of CHelsea fans chanting FAT SPANISH WAITER. Here is also another video of Chelsea fans singing you're not welcome here AS EARLY AS JUNE THIS YEAR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5MrwsBY2IY. Ron, Michael and Bruce (I am sure) were at the Birmingham game and heard this chants and they make this appointment. Good luck with them getting those CPO Shares. They have created more animosity with the fans and they won't get those CPO shares in the near term.
KAKUfrank
Faara23,weve had 9 managers since Roman came......What will you say when Rafa inevitably gets the pink slip??? It shows how fickle fans are in this part of the world. A manager just got sacked tomorrow and here you are spitting your drivel about how glad and secure you feel! unfecking believable! Sometimes i feel like a lot of you only came after Roman and you have absolutely no deep passion for the club! If we go on a rough patch for 2 seasons,i bet you wouldnt even log onto this site anymore!!!
3nity
Some fans here are sick! Double standard it is. Supporting your club is coming from a retard who always call RDM a noob? Sick I say
Ibidayo
Deal with it guys. Nobody is questioning anybody's love for their club because you do or do not back RB. But isn't it ironic when folks say they love their club, but won't support the club because the owner or board has made a decision they don't agree with? Oh please!
pricesoft
Spot on Kaku, Roman better forget those CPO shares for now. This was one of the points the CPO shareholders were using against the board at those meetings. They claimed the board doesnt care about the fans and all they are after is maximising profits,increasing ticket prices and filling their pockets! No offence to Roman,hes spent a lot more than a fortune on the club and deserves to make his money but SO HAVE I!!! If you compare how much i spend out of what earn on chelsea,i think the percentage is up there with the best of us. Add that to the fact that im emotionally and passionately attached to the club,i think i spend much more than money!!! AND YES,MY OPINION DOES FECKING COUNT!!!
3nity
great article...i hope you go there and show your anger by booing rafa, toress and all the jokers who are managing chelsea.....personally i hope chelsea dont qualify this season for the cl...call me whatever you can...anti chelsea plastic fan or wotever else....i think time has come for roman and his joker to learn some lesson in football sometime i say sometime in football there is more important thing than money.....roman dosnt care about fan and their feelings towards the club....he should be reminded that money is important but without fans there is no chelsea no roman no one....fans are the soul.of the club you cant ingore them and their feeling....i hope rafa fail big time this season...thats my personal opinion...a footballing lesson should be tought to chelsea...so that our club reputation is not put in danger henceforth....
shlok27
I will support my team come sunday but Roman and the board will be getting some stick as well!!! End of rant!
3nity
@3nity Barca has had 6 coaches since 2003. Fact. So what your point. How mant trophies have we won in that period. 3 Community Shields, 3 League titles, 1 Champuions League, 5 Fa Cups, 3 League Cups and you question Roman. Come I have never heard such idiotic arguments.
faara23
You want to know how much a team means to the fans and to what extent they are prepared to go to preserve the pride of the team,Ask Gerard what happened to him when he was almost ready to join Chelsea? Ask the fans that committed suicide when chelsea lost the CL final to Man UTd. Ask the one who had a heart attack after Terry slipped and lost that penalty! Ask the Chelsea fan who drove his truck into a crowd of united fans after that final,and is now doing life for it?? WE AS FANS SPEND MUCH MORE THAN MONEY!!!
3nity
Go and support Manure and the Glazers bleeding them dry. I will support Chelsea and for any Chelsea fan out there who will go to boo the team shame on you and I hope you choke on you spit will booing.
faara23
@Faara, what im trying to say is,Roman cant keep making decisions solely based on the fact that hes the one spending the money,you and I spend a lot as well and that includes money,time,and more! We deserve to be heard and the only way this Stubborn Russian Oligarch is gonna listen is if we find a way to make him! Barcelona has PROMOTED 2 MANAGERS AND ONLY SACKED ONE!!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT MATE AND STOP BEING IGNORANT!!!
3nity
@3nity...no point arguing mate,this lads really don't understand the emotions we grew with as kids...
nelyvanile
@Nelyvanile-- Guess youre right.
3nity
If Rafa is smart at all. He should address the issues he had with the fans because Stamford Bridge is not going to be easy for him. Any loss at home and he will hear it.
KAKUfrank
God bless you foreverblue for the article, @people criticism you are either s***id or are just fans of the Roman era where by all that matters is wining and trophies, but being a fan is much more than that its emotional, religious and sacred, I don't even live in England but I know what I pass through to watch and support chelsea, membership subscription payment, ordering club machandice, paying for cable tv and convincing my wife to at least get a family holiday to london once a year just to be opportune to watch Chelsea play and some idiotic russian oligarchy will just be toying with my emotion? God! Just any other coach not Benitez the most hated person at the bridge not even Sir red nose has such hatred, I feel like having a seizure.
sojofjand
god we're such a joke its embarrassing
Ess...DaBison
Zenden to be appointed assistant manager. Lmaoooo!!!!!!!
KAKUfrank
Neil Ashton ‏@neilashton_ Rafa wants to bring in a keeper coach. How will Petr Cech react, he only works with Christophe Lollichom. More on Mail Online soon" - Gosh!!!!!
KAKUfrank
Not a keeper coach please.Cech has improved a lot under Christophe Lollichom.He shares a very good relationship with him.
cfc250
Well here comes the zonal marking...pretty much the idea of the keeper coach.
nelyvanile
Shaktar and Juve draw then what?
foreign_viewer
"With success we will get more fans" @Mq I always know you just joined CFC during the Roman era lured by success that is why u are always spitting rubbish, don't know which word to qualify you MORON
sojofjand
????? Clattenburg cleared Mikel Charged?
Mia Maynard
drogba move also off.
Mia Maynard
Rafa late for press briefing.
nelyvanile
John Terry posted a picture of RDM lifting the UCL trophy on Instagram.
nelyvanile
Agree with you 100% im very sad over this. Bad week to be a chelsea fan. No drogba loan. Mikel clattenburg case blows up in our faces. Rdm fired and tubby d ick face for manager :(
Clingy
@FV.Then we are out of the CL.
cfc250
What better time to stick the blade into us! The FA waited for the right time and quickly acted. Mikel did threaten to break the Ref's legs but do they not realise,anyone would have said that if they felt racially abused? And the Keeping coach story just confirms the zonal marking theory. CLOSE YOUR EYES WHEN THE CORNERS AND FREE KICKS RAIN IN!!! I still remember Ivanovic punishing him for it a few years ago! Stubborn Rafa!
3nity
Watching Chelsea tv...Benitez holding up a Chelsea shirt and smiling at the cameras.
nelyvanile
This blows. Easily the worst day of my life. Even that 92nd minute Iniesta equalizer was better.
Carefree_1990
He's talking trophies. What do you know about trophies, fata**?
Carefree_1990
Okay, I get it now... Fans should set SB ablaze on Sunday cos Rafa has been hired as interim coach, kidnap Rafa, RA, Bruce Buck and Ron Gourlay and give them all a beating of their lives.... Maybe that would make people happy...
Latunvic
Couldn't even be on time. RDM was never late at least.
Carefree_1990
This is wat happens when you sell your soul. CFC are a joke and even your CL win will not be feted - it is instead mocked as the flukiest win ever. Ģ1Billion pounds of investment of Russian blood money and you're still a joke
HuddersfieldYiddo
Chelsea FC ‏@chelseafc RB: 'It is too early to talk about new players coming in. My priority is to work with and improve the players here.' #CFC
KAKUfrank
Benitez: Fans' opposition. 'I like to think in the right way for the fans because it will be good for me.'
KAKUfrank
The fans will be happy with a manger with a winning mentality. Heh heh. In your dreams.
Carefree_1990
WAGNH ‏@WAGNH_CFC "Di Matteo was doing a great job" Well why are you here then?
KAKUfrank
Oliver Kay ‏@OliverKayTimes Benitez on Torres: "Everyone was saying 'He's not doing well'. I was saying the same. But today he trained really well"
KAKUfrank
Chelsea FC ‏@chelseafc RB: 'Things I said in the past was a manager fighting for his team before an important game & I'm sure that is what fans would want.' #CFC
KAKUfrank
Will improve the players that are here. Like to see you try. Ancelotti tried before you, and you're not fit to tie his boots.
Carefree_1990
Oh yeah he always trains well, and when you send him out to play, you're in for a training in ineptitude. Always been this way.
Carefree_1990
@chelseafc: RB: 'I am sure they will be happy with a manager with a winning mentality.' #CF...which manager has a loosing mentality.
nelyvanile
Phil McNulty ‏@philmcnulty Benitez: "I'm really happy to be here in the Premier League with a chance to win trophies. Perfect." #bbcfootball
KAKUfrank
Benitez dodging questions in the conference! Tubby doesnt regret saying those things.
3nity
Dan Levene ‏@BluesChronicle Benitez says his time at Inter was not a failure. I can think of a few who might not entirely agree.
KAKUfrank
Dan Levene ‏@BluesChronicle Benitez is asked if he said 'I will never take that job' about Chelsea. Does not answer the question.
KAKUfrank
Rob Harris ‏@RobHarris Benitez on Torres: "Fernando is a top class player and if he has a great attitude he will improve ... I will try to improve him"
KAKUfrank
We already have been closing our eyes on corners, the defence shambolic. Lets go Rafa. Lets go Chelsea and Long live Roman
faara23
Chad ‏@ChelseaChadder This is the most embarrassing and pointless press conference I have seen in a long time. Ask a hard question, avoid the answer. #CFC
KAKUfrank
Don't make promises you can't keep. Like how you're never going to take this job.
Carefree_1990
The spirited discussion this appointment of Rafa has brought up is one indication of how poor a decision this is..this is not just about true fans feeling that RdM got a raw deal here..it is the fact that he got shafted to be replaced by the lowest form of mercenary there is. I dont mean this as a personal attack against Rafa ..it is just a fact..Rafa is a very proud man..the only reason he would ever accept a job from chelsea who he has no love for and would accept an interim job at that is simply because he is so desperate to get back to coaching after being out of it for over 2yrs now. He has taken this job holding his nose while taking it..that is the point. similarly the board themselves dont want or trust the guy..that is why they made his appointment temporary or interim..they are still hedging all their bets of getting pep in the summer. what happens if and when pep picks someone else..and BTW from all those close to Pep the feelers are that Pep has no intention of ever joining Chelsea..he has been very put of by the unhealthy climate that managers at chelsea face and the desperate monetary incentives that Roman keeps dangling before him. He reportedly only takes Romans calls now just to be polite. It appears that City and Bayern are actually his top 2 preferred options. So here we are as a club..we sacked a club legend who did literally the impossible for us last season who has a very young side in transition and not even 12 games into the new season with our team 3rd hie is fired when the vast majority of problems facing the team ( lack of strikers and lack of depth) are not his fault but the fault of the very same board and owner doing the firing..as bad as that is we replace him with a guy who is accepting the job on a temp basis only because it is the only job available and our board is gambling that come summer they will get their preferred target who there is no guarantee we will get...does this seem smart to anyone? As ugly as this is..it will get downright diabolically putrid if the side continues losing games with Rafa at the helm because he will not have the good will or patience from the fans that RDM would have had..come january if we are down to maybe 5th or 6ht, if we lose the Club world cup tournament in December..what then? how long can the board stick with this guy if results really do south..People it is not inconcievable that Rafa may not even last till May..can you imagine how laughable as a club we will be if we have to fire our interim coach as well? Many others have said this already but i need to reiterate it..the perception of chelsea as a club that this whole debacle gives cannot be overemphasized and that perception will factor into how any coaches worthe their salt will look at us when the time comes to actually try a and get a permanent coach.
GabeU
with the way majority have reacted to his press conference , he is def not going to have a fun time here
Don capon
Maybe next summer when Pep turns us down we can get Him back from Madrid. We're upset with board terribly right now, but if they do that, it's all water under the bridge.
Carefree_1990
God this guy sounds so boring!!
Ess...DaBison
Mourinho....come save us from this embarrassment!
Ess...DaBison
Oliver Kay ‏@OliverKayTimes Benitez confirms appointment of Bolo Zenden and ex #LFC coaches Xavi Valero and Paco de Miguel to his staff
KAKUfrank
Napoleon--All animals are equal,some are more equal than the others. Rafa-- All the trophies are important,some are more important than the others!!!! arrrrrghhhhh!
3nity
Keeping coach, does this mean getting rid of Chris? Well good luck tub, you've got Cech on your side now too, as well as the 'overrated' Lampard.
Carefree_1990
Chelsea FC ‏@chelseafc RB: 'Di Matteo was doing a great job but football is like this now. At Inter I won two trophies but then I went.' #CFC
KAKUfrank
Rob Harris ‏@RobHarris Benitez: "Have you seen my CV? I have all the trophies you can win at club level"
KAKUfrank
Win Bpl? You're taking the mickey right? Get us into the top 4 and I'll thank my stars like, forever.
Carefree_1990
Tom Williams ‏@tomwfootball Benitez: "I've won everything you can win." Journalist: "Premier League?" Benitez: "I won league in Spain. Barca can't win Premier League!"
KAKUfrank
dafuq...what a waste of a question?
Ess...DaBison
Dan Levene ‏@BluesChronicle Benitez on Liverpool: "If you have three bosses I am sure you will not be happy." Rafa - meet Michael, Ron and Roman. And Bruce and Eugene.
KAKUfrank
The Chelsea board stinks as bad as AVB, into this season and planning only for the next.
Carefree_1990
What a useless uninspiring press conference
KAKUfrank
Such an arrogant****...He is so arrogant to the press.
nelyvanile
thinking chelsea will be easier than liverpool because of owners ? he simply has not met Roman 1 on 1 yet
Don capon
I feel worse off than when he was appointed yesterday after that conference. Can't wait for May.
KAKUfrank
In every statement,he has used the word "win".
cfc250
And now for some perspective: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7654198/the-writer-****-my-dad-says-why-your-team-give-damn-you
BlueCowboy
Folks.Lets support the guy.Nobody will mind if he wins games.
cfc250
Look here GabeU, I dont even care about Pep and what he thinks of us, frankly I dont really xcare what the rest of the world thinks, They have been against us for a long time now. What I care about is Chelsea FC, not you whiny and wingy opions that are blinkered by your persoanal feelings. Stability can only be achieved when the coach and the board are on the same level, clearly they were not and one and to go. I would rather have RA than have a person like Fergurson who runs the club like its his own little project. Roman pays the bills and gets to fire whoever he wishes, After spending 1.2 billion I think he has earned the right to fire and hire. So to all of you who dont like this decesion dont go to the game and go support Arsenal and wait for trophies for another 10 years or go Manure
faara23
Rafa just made it worse. The fans hate him.
KAKUfrank
But yes,if he sacks Terry as captain,please I want his a$$ to be put on fire.I can't stand that decision.To all the fans who visit the Bridge,please protest if that happens.
cfc250
Avram Grant won games and reached the UCL final. RDM won the UCL and FA Cup. Do you know what those guys have in common - DROGBA. We are stuck with Torres and our season is dependent on Torres's form.
KAKUfrank
Give over already stop whining and get on with it.
Anarchy
Please ~ Go to the game and Boo and cus the rafa bitch like no one has ever been cussed before. get all you mates to do the same. Let Rafa and everyone know how we, the fans feel about this pathetic excuse for a man, ridiculous appointment for a club of our stature.
Pantisocrates
After that press conference,i can confidently say ''There is fire on the mountain'' Rafa has never met nor spoken to Roman! Which means,Roman doesnt want him but Emenalo had to give him the job because Pep declined it. Hmmmmmn,A lot is going on behind the scenes that we dont know about folks. This money grabbing mercenary should have his fill in a few months and just leave. He's only ever spoken to Emenalo and he claims to have just one boss,hahaha
3nity
Oh btw,the refrees association is demanding an apology and a compensation which should be donated to charity! Talk of kicking a man while he's already fallen!! Steve dodged that question in the conference as well. Whats happened to this club within a 2weeks? OMG
3nity
Torres is cancer for this club. Tubby was brought in to "get the best out of Torres". Torres is done, sell him please we wont win anything with Torres playing. Oh and @3nity I completely agree with your comment, so whats going to happen when summer comes and Pep goes somewhere else?
bleedblueSTL
@Faara23 i dont know who you think you are but you need to watch your tone. I am entitled to my opinions and i have voiced them without insulting anyone. Who are you to say that my opinions are whiny or wingy..mister you need get some basic lessons in communication etiquette. For your information chelsea FC existed as a club long before Roman bought her and will continue to exist even when his time with the club is done. If you dont understand the need for stability and direction in running a football club thats on you but i dont follow any man blindly..i could care less if Roman is a triple billionaire..he is not infallible and when i feel he has made reckless calls i will say so. Yes of course he has done so much for this club but the day no one turns up to a game at stamford Bridge guess what the gig is over. You may think that the fans who have a history of decades with this club mean nothing and are not deserving of a modicum of respect , thats your prerogrative but if you address me do so with basic civility or dont address me at all..i hope i am crystal clear.
GabeU
This is disgusting. The fans at the Bridge won't support him. The Press Conference made it worse. Bull$hit, lies and win trophies were filled in it. No straight ass. $hit about torres which every chelsea fan wants out. He has never spoken to or discussed with Roman. ONLY Emenalo. That's good thing at least. Proves Roman doesn't want him like RDM. When Torres takes him down before December like RDM, he will be sacked too.......
KAKUfrank
The fat spainish waiter....is just a mercenary who is looking for a big club that will help him bounce back in to topclass coaching reckoning. we ve got no choice as fans but to back and support him but i hope the stamford bridge faithfuls would first of all show him and the board their unreserved disapproval at the game on sunday. The appointment was a slap on the face of the fans and they need to show their disapproval, they are atleast entitled to that. We need to let Rafa no that if he fails to turn things around as soon as possible then it will be hell for him from the fans. He will never win over the chelsea fans at the bridge(maybe except some fellas on VC) because we all no that he came here because he has had no job for 2years. Even him would never have imagined that he would one day become our manager in those his liverpool days after all the disgusting insults and abuse that he threw at us. I just hope that he wont turn out to become the worst thing that happens to us in this roman era that would make AVB's tenure look like a golden era. Maybe thats exactly what roman needs to learn some lessons.
Chelz Akamz
I did watch Rafaīs press-conference. I feel now better than yesterday. I donīt understand why you guys are so *****ed off. We all have done mistakes in previous life. If you admit it, if learn something from that and you feel that after that you are more experienced then itīs all ok. He was so happy that he got chance to prove to the world that he is capable top club manager. I believe it. He said that he waited that chance almost 2 year. And if you got that chance and if you are smart and wise then you donīt ***** with that chance. So I feel that I donīt have problems with him being CFC interim manager. Let him do his job. What he said in the past doesīnt matter because he had then different owner and as you all know very well you sing the song to them who pays your salary. Really... you guys remind be a lot of kids at the age 3 to 6 who canīt share the toys in sandbox.
CFCblue.est
Emenalo probably speaks for Roman...Our baord needs a serious reality check.
nelyvanile
Chelsea Assistant Head Coach - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADTUDx8-Pbg
KAKUfrank
Finally see an article worth reading and commenting on after a long long long time. Thank you for your sentiments. I fully agree and support you my friend.
blue_iceberg
@CFCBlue.est..i cannot speak for anyone else but if you read my prior articles and comments you will find that i have accepted Rafa..i have already extolled his strengths and his accomplishments. The only caution i have put out there is his personality and terms of his appointment. This whole thing could work like a charm which would be wonderful for chelsea FC but if this goes wrong it could make the AVB last days and the times of Scolari look like heaven on earth. My prayers for the club continue and i hope for the best though my reasoning faculties have prepared me for the possibilities of something really ugly coming down the line.
GabeU
@KAKU .... it doesīnt matter. How can you be so obstinate. Jeez. Did you see him with Pat Nevin on Chelsea TV ahead of that Shakhtar CL game at SB?
CFCblue.est
Anyone who thinks Benitez waited 2 years for the right job is JOKING and on cloud 9!!!!!!
KAKUfrank
Did I see who?
KAKUfrank
@KAKU ........well Franklin. You are smart and wise guy. I respect you a lot. But you can not arbitrarily raise things out of context and presenting them pushed as truth. This is called manipulation.
CFCblue.est
@KAKU .... Boudewijn "Bolo" Zenden was Gigiīs guest with Pat Nevin
CFCblue.est
It gets worse for cfc as clatenburg is cleared,mikel has been charged,drogba's loan move rejected...i support neither the treatment of rdm nor the appointment of benitez,but lets face it no matter how bitter we might feel about it benitez now works for CFC,yes i know he said dispiteful things about us now is the time to prove to him that he was wrong about us and we are the passionate fans on earth,lets get behind our team and not loose the zeal..we support chelseafc not individuals..KTBFFH
Ken4CFC
My point is ..... I love Chelsea Football Club. Thatīs all. Itīs modern time football which means some club owners demand more than others like in every other business in the world. For that reason some comapanies are more sucessful than others. Roman is who is. You canīt change him. He is owner of our club. So you must to live with that. His demandings are what they are. You are well paid for that.
CFCblue.est
Boudewijn "Bolo" Zenden stopped playing footy in 2011. What record does he have to become assistant manager for Chelsea immediately?
KAKUfrank
Itīs Rafaīs choice. I have not played with him so I donīt know him personally. But on that evening on Chelsea TV he was nice lad who explained with Pat a lot of tactical nuances. So...If Rafa feels that Bolo is enough good to him then you canīt judge him.
CFCblue.est
Also Rafa said that he did take the job because he feels that CFC squad is enough good to win trophies. And that was the main reason he did take that offer.
CFCblue.est
Nice to Know some Roman-Benitez ass-lickers here! Football is more than trophies and Money! Something some idiots here fail to understand.what a shame! I'd support chelsea with my life but would never support benitez. Feck Roman! Feck Benitez and Feck the board as a whole! Now i understand why those CPO shares weren't sold! Wherever you at Dimmateo God Bless you sir! Would Never forget what you did for this club as a player and especially as Coach! #LEGEND#
Krested Kal-el
@Krested ... you need to improve your brain volume. Because you sound really stupid to me. But hey, itīs a freedom of speech.
CFCblue.est
There is a great saying - everyone thinks their level of perversity.
CFCblue.est
GAbeU so who do you think you are really, Dont satrt with me mate. Dont try and sell your crap here. Keep your feelings to your self, dont try and threaten me.
faara23
@CFCblue.est you are the one that is stupid I think, cos if you don't see anything bad in the way the club is being run, its either you're so dumb or you just decide to be a clown. Go get a grip.
sojofjand
Abrahmovitj wants to prove that Torres can be successful... It reminds me a bit of that millionaire in "Trading places" who wagered that he could turn Eddie Murphy into a success ;) One excuse after the other, first injury, then he hadn't had the benefit of a pre-season, then he needed creative players to hand him the ball on a platter, now he needs his old manager... He's got all the opportunities in the world, so what'll his next demand be- "Rosebud"?
Maestrinho
@CFCblue.est, Emenalo, Roman, Bruce and Ron are taking a serious gamble. And it all comes down to DECISIONS DECISIONS DECISIONS. The most successful players in Roman's era were Drogba, Lampard, Terry, Cole, and Cech. These core spines were recruited under a period of stability and by managers who knew what they were doing. Cech to an extent was recommended by Mourinho only to find out Chelsea has signed him without even consulting him before he signed. A lot of Chelsea's success over the years has been down to Didier Drogba. He was responsible for the Champions League; FA Cup and Premier League titles. The times Chelsea have made it to the UCL final - they've been led by two of what Chelsea fans deem as the most tactically clueless managers in History - Avram Grant and RDM. Even the most recent tactically clueless manager won you an FA Cup. Some even called Carlo a lot of names - A yes man, a clueless manager and a clown and he still won the double and could have won the PL if the right players were kept. So this just proves having the right players is much more important than having the coaches. If Roman lets the ok coaches and clueless coaches have the right players and invest money in them, he will win more trophies. The myth is Roman's method of sacking managers work because of the amount of trophies he has won. But those who said this forget it worked because he made the right initial investment in players before this sacking madness started. He wants to build a new era and he is leading that with a terrible investment in Torres. Didier Drogba scored and was on form under every single coach he had except Scolari. Torres has flopped under every single coach he has had. This is one time that myth of winning trophies regardless of the manager won't work because of the quality of players especially a 50mm under-performing striker. Making the right investment under Stable conditions is much more important the managerial rotation ROMAN has gotten used to. Rafa and Zenden won't change that as CA, RDM, and AVB have found out.
KAKUfrank
sad football club what would happen if roman left
duckworth
To me what is disgraceful is behaviour such as this. You don't have to love the manager, just love the club. It makes no difference who the boss is, you treat him like a failure before he's started, he could well be the perfect appointment, he knows our 50 million man better than anyone, if any manager will make him perform, it's Benitez. He is our manager end of. Man up and support the club, it's because of people like you we look bad. Petty behaviour and I don't care what anyone says, I'm giving him my full backing until he shows me that he doesn't deserve it. Comments he may have made as a Liverpool manager make no difference, it's his job to play those mind games. I'm not asking you to like the man, he looks like a dishonest little rat. Just simply asking that you support this bloody club no matter what. No question. CHEER US ON THROUGH THE SUN AND RAIN. There is meaning to that song it's not just a bit of fun.
GhostWriter
For those hoping the club does badly so that Benitez gets the sack. Well, so much for the love of club eh!
pricesoft
To everyone who think that Iīm that or that or whateva. Really to be honest, I donīt care about that. Lately, I go here very rarely, because itīs not the same site as it was letī s say some three-four years ago. I'm honest enough with myself, and I will save myself that come here to cry about how our beloved club is all *****ed up. It does not change anything.
CFCblue.est
@KAKU .... to be honest, I donīt know how the resultse will be. At the moment Iīm a little bit more optimistic than pessimistic.. But as everyone I too feel that RA did dumbest purchese in history of football when he paid 50MĢ for Torres.
CFCblue.est
There are only 2 justifications I can think of: (1) Rafa is only a stop gap measure before Roman brings in Pep or even Mourinho next summer, and (2) nothing can be worse than allowing RDM to stay on (however popular he is) and allow THIS season's poor results continue. But having said that, I would think that Harry Redknapp would have been a much better choice and I wouldn't mind even if he is intended as a long term replacement for RDM.
Blue Day
who cares,mangers are like taxis,you enter and it carries you to your destination. Tomorrow might be Sir Alex and i would support him 100percent..you are fools with ludicrous sentiments.
11bandwagon
@KAKU .... in Romanīs place I would do everything to get Stephan El Shaarawy who in my opinion is the most suitable striker to our squad because he has different skills then Lukaku.
CFCblue.est
What a load of crap. Pathetic.
djdutts
@all plz stop screaming and support cfc with heart. Some here are insulting abramovich and his staf which is bad , better try to forget about the past and think about forward
habbo
frankly benitez is far better than hury and pep is no better than benitez
habbo
frankly benitez is far better than hury and pep is no better than benitez
habbo
Roman is NOT EVEN behind the appointment of Benitez......
KAKUfrank
@kaku plz keep what u are doing for the goodness of the club and support with heart . plz ur nationality?
habbo
Mr Faara 23 a few basic things..1. Learn to spell before you come on a public forum and make a fool of yourself. 2. I never addressed any comments to you before you chose to abuse and insult me 3. I dont need to threaten you..you are not worth it 4. Never ever direct any more comments to me ..i have nothing more to say to you..dont read anything i say going forward..they are not intended for your consumption but for the public fraternity of VC. We have nothing in common and there is no basis for any further discussion nor interaction between us. I hope your faculties can comprehend these simple concepts. Case closed.
GabeU
@kaku where can i download chelsea goals , i dislike youtube
habbo
"Di Matteo had run the analysis on Torres, asking the club’s technical team for a breakdown of the 81 goals he scored for Liverpool before his move south to London. When Di Matteo went through the detail, a worrying pattern emerged that convinced him Chelsea did not have the personnel to accommodate his game. At Anfield, 56 of his goals (69 per cent) were engineered by defence-splitting passes, usually from Steven Gerrard or Xabi Alonso. At Chelsea, players like Juan Mata, Frank Lampard, Ramires and John Mikel Obi — together with new arrivals Oscar and Eden Hazard – preferred to pass their way through the opposition. They did not spring opposition defences and Di Matteo was already beginning to doubt whether Torres was committed to the Chelsea project. Di Matteo’s relationship with technical director Michael Emenalo was already strained, but it was stretched to the limit by the pressure to get Torres among the goalscorers. Some sympathised, but others were openly questioning the motivation of a striker who was once regarded as the best finisher in world football." These are things we at VC have debated. I remember this article I posted about Miguel Delaney which did the same analysis that Di Matteo did. See the article here: http://eircomsports.eircom.net/News/trouble-with-Torres.aspx Miguel Delaney said: Torres is much more of a classic ‘poacher’ than he’s often given credit for. As many as 20 of his goals (31%) have come from headers or simple close-range finishes to moves. Nevertheless, the huge degree to which his game is based on speed is obvious. To all intents and purposes, a massive 46% (30 goals – those marked with a star above) of his 65 goals have come through his exploitation of open space. These involved getting to loose balls first, catching defenders out and – of course – running on to through-passes. There can be little surprise that the last is the most frequent type of goal he scored during his time at Anfield. It helped, of course, that Liverpool were built to play this way and had numerous key figures capable of providing that kind of pass – above all, Xabi Alonso and Gerrard." Then also add to sky sports saying the very same thing that Di Matteo was looking to add a striker in the summer as well. I don't think it is false to be honest. Where Roy Hdgson, Princess Kenny, AVB, RDM, CA and Del Bosque have failed over the last 2 years; we expect a coach who has been out of a job for the past 3 years to succeed. Even if he succeeds, then what? We keep Torres and Benitez for the long term.......HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KAKUfrank
Out of a job the last 2 years to succeed.
KAKUfrank
Google the match and the scores and put the words highlights so if it is Chelsea vs Man U of last season, google Chelsea 3 Manchester United 3 hgihlights. You should find it somewhere.
KAKUfrank
@Gabeu was up men? are u angry ? come down hope u take a glass of water to cool ur self
habbo
kaku nationality?
habbo
Let go Chelsea, Lets go Rafa and Again long live Roman. His decisions have been questioned, but his decisions have also made us a very successful club. All you fans better think twice before going on some stupid protest. The RA leaves is the day you will realize how important RA is. He made a decision to fire AVB and he was right. He appointed RDM he was right, now he fires RDM I for one think he is right cause we were drifting listlessly and wer probably gonna finish outside the top 4, which is unacceptable, so a decision had to be made, keep RDM and take the chance of finishing outside top 4, or fire him hire Rafa, who I believe is the most qualified coach available, besides Pep, Ra made the decision and fire RDM and hired RB, so we all pull together and make it work. RDM was too chummy letting everyone call Robbie even the young players, come people players need to respect their coaches period. Whatever Rafa said in the past should be taken in the context of his personal feud with Jose and worse things have been said in the heat of the moment. Calling Rafa a Fat Spanish waiter is racial abused and just give Chelsea a bad name. So excuse for not agreeing with mindless rhetoric. Look how much damage supporter like you who put their little petty issues ahead of the club. After the John Terry incident and the the Mikel/Clattenburg issues do you really think its wise to incite supporter to go call Rafa a fat Spanish waiter makes any sense. I for one will report anyone who makes what i deem a racist remark to the authorities. Dont paint us with your tainted brus most of wish Chelsea FC well, including Rafa, Torres and who ever palys or coaches us.
faara23
I tell you that KAKU, if Torres starts now to score for fun then itīs clearly shows what kind a person he his. I really hope that all that "Project Torres" will fail and finally we can forget about it and move on. Also I read it too (about RDM analysis on Torres).
CFCblue.est
that january transfer market where we bought Torres and Luiz was the worst transfer window ever for Chelsea.....we were better off saving the Ģ75m odd we threw down the drain
Ess...DaBison
Damiao anyone?
Ess...DaBison
Yeah i dont need to learn to spell, as long as you get what iam saying. And I will direct my comments to you if you are spewing your vile and mindless comments. Chelsea is bigger than you and me and should not be held ransom by a few individuals who a have personal agendas. I love Chelsea too much to let that slide. So if you keep up with not supporting Rafa guess what I will direct my comment to you.
faara23
Damiao is a good striker. But what's the point Ess...DaBison? Will Benitez even play him? Even your Daniel Sturridge can firmly kiss his chances of playing goodbye talkless of Damiao....
KAKUfrank
Torres isn't a world class striker and never was. A world class striker can adapt his game when necessary like van persie, falcao, villa. The guy gives nothing for Mata and co. to work with.
Ess...DaBison
the only way rafa will win me over is if he benches Poorres and Starts Sturridge (THE BETTER STRIKER) from now onwards. If he doesnt then I stick with what i've always thought...rafa is clueless!
Ess...DaBison
@habbo..go back in the thread and look at the comment made by this clown called Farra23..i am all for healthy debate..we can disagree and have different opinions but when someone feels that the way to make their point is to insult someone else i just dont appreciate it. As i said to CfcBlue and as my prior article on this matter details i have no doubt of Rafas ability as a coach..his CV speaks for itself but as KAKU has said eloquently above this appointment is Roman's highest stake gamble yet since he bought chelsea. If it goes well halleluyah but if it goes wrong..my o my it could end up a major calamity. That is the plain truth no matter how optimistic or pessimistic we chose to be. Independent observers evaluating our situation have said as much and the inquest will begin when we face City which is a very hard place to start for a new manager...there are no "easy" games ahead for Rafa in the next month or so; After city, Fulham, then West Ham, then sunderland..Our first "easy "game does not come till December 15 against South hampton..can you imagine what pressure Rafa will be under if results are not going his way by the time that fixture comes..and then he has the World club cup to also consider and the final champions league game against Nordsjaeland. We all need to pray for the guy because if things dont go well by mid December we (chelsea FC) could be in very serious trouble that could make our present travails look like child's play.
GabeU
It's like you didn't read Neil Ashton's column. RDM wanted to first pull the trigger after the West Brom match after Torres was benched. The final nail on the coffin was Juve. Apparently the players were elated when Torres wasn't part of the starting lineup while Roman made the call to sack him immediately. He got sacked by 3am on Wednesday morning. Cleared his desk at Stamford Bridge by morning. AVB got sacked after benching Torres and DD himself couldn't keep up the scoring. Moral of the Story - Bench Torres. Make Sure you win. If you don't, you'll be sacked.
KAKUfrank
Abramovich wanted to pull the trigger I mean.......
KAKUfrank
First you tell how to spell, now you call me a clown. Being Chelsea coach is a job, Rafa does not need to be a Chelsea fan, he needs to love his job if he is fan even better. RDM was always a gamble and we gave him a springboard for his career. He didnt even thank Roman for the opportunity a man who had been fired from West Brom and Roman gave him the chance and he is still not grateful to thank him, c'mon man!. He is getting ***** loads of money and he can live for the next 2 years without even looking for a job. On the name calling that below you, I will not respond with any name. But for anyone to even suggest booing RB thats stupid, for anyone calling him a fat Spanish Waiter thats criminal and prejudicial. So lets get one thing clear dont resort to name calling and for you to say we have nothing in common, you might be right. I love Chelsea FC and obviously you dont. I for one think of you as part of the great Chelsea family and I think we have Chelsea Fc in common.
faara23
@CFCBlue.....An assistant manager in a true sense is supposed to be able to manage a couple of games by himself BE IT meaningless games like the Carling Cup matches or in the event the coach is unavailable due to a ban or illness. Mourinho coached some Copa Del Rey matches under RObson. Steve Bould coached some matches for Arsenal this season. Chelsea have mutha******** Zenden as the No. 2. So if we find ourselves in a situation like Juve, albeit for lesser games, Juve has Massimo Carrera as the assistant while Zenden will be the one coaching the team and instructing Ashley Cole, Terry, Lampard and Cech. LMAOOOOO!!!!!!!! Isn't that embarrassing and a disgrace of the highest order???????
KAKUfrank
JT's Message to Eddie and Robbie on Instagram...'I watched and learned from you both growing up. I cleaned eddie's boot at 16 and had the pleasure to play and captain under you both. Thank you doesn't seem enough. *Love*' JT. Top lad.
nelyvanile
Isnt Gary Neville, England's #2. It doesnt really matter. If their attitude is like that then Chelsea doesnt need them. Whoever sits on the bench is to listened to. We always talk about big players attitudes being bad but then as fans if we start asking questions about our coaches then we are just bringing the team down.
faara23
Here is how is Zenden's appointment, Rafa need an inside track on the politics at Chelsea, so he need someone who had spent time with us yet someone he could trust. Zenden then becomes a logical choice for Rafa. I admit at first glance this might look a whimsical appointment by Roman but I have a feeling everything will be fine.
faara23
@faara23, are you seriously comparing the coaching dynamics of a national team with that of a club? Are you serious with that comparison mate? And please get your facts right. England's number 2 is Ray Lewington NOT Gary Neville.
KAKUfrank
We were two goals up at home to Juventus and then conceded five goals without reply.It say's it all really.Rafa is here now,a man of vast experience and has to be given a fair chance.
THEBREEZE
I was just going to correct him on England's No 2. Ray is no 2...Gary is just part of the technical team.
nelyvanile
Inside track? What the feck does Zenden know? Please. If you want someone that has inside track on Chelsea politics, you do not appoint Zenden. If you need an inside track, you appoint someone who played long enough that the fans and players respect NOT Zenden. He played 2 seasons here. No major trophies. Not a Chelsea legend. Even played more at Barcelona than here and he is a logical choice? Jesus Christ.
KAKUfrank
@Fara...Your analysis on Zenden is way off mate...Yes Zenden spent about 3 years at Chelsea,but doesn't know enough about the politics of the club...He was at Chelsea between 2001-2004,just before the Roman era and missed out on the Politics of Roman era. So ure off mate.
nelyvanile
Doesnt really matter same thing. Jonathon Banks is Wladimir Klitshiko's trainer. All I am saying these are trying time and we all need to pull together. We all know that is Rafa is not around Jt and Cole and Cech and Lampard are the leaders and Rafa is only here till season's end. What we really need to do is finish top 4. We will get Pep. There is no where else to go for besides back to Barca which I dont think will happen, He wont go to City. Good thing with all this is that it gives him a bargain chip, total control if Roman wants him, which I feel Roman will gladly give up.
faara23
Its zenden's turn to be slated..lol..what is wrong in zenden bein our assistant???some already want them to fail before they even get started
Ken4CFC
And he played in 2001-2003 era. Probably only met Terry Has no idea about Gourlay and Ron and almost 90% of this team. If he needed an inside scoop, he should look for a person Terry cleaned his boots that commands respect from the fans, and the players.
KAKUfrank
Thereīs a another old saying : before you start to criticize the book, it should be read. In other words - firstly I want to see how Rafa will do on Sunday before I start to criticize him (maybe I donīt if he does well). Anyway, it does not seem reasonable to me at the time, this forum loudly proclaim that the world is now in the final. Things might not be so bad. Pat Nevin and Clive Walker was optimistic (@ CTV you could not say anything else), so at the moment I feel a little optimistic too. I'm a peaceful football fan who does not have hard feelings to other clubs fans (if they donīt play hardball). My best friend is a Liverpool fan so it has already been enough talk about it. About Bolo I donīt know what to say. Clearly he may be enough qualities to be No.2 but it feels to me that for Rafa itīs more like PR-step (to get CFC fans behind him).
CFCblue.est
Roman will give up total CONTROL????? LMAOOOOO!!!!!!!!! A lot of fans really live in Utopia.
KAKUfrank
Oh come of it. Now some folks are having a go at Zenden. Pathetic really. First and foremost, there is no confirmation that he his Benitez's number 2. CFC official website only reports Zenden being employed as a backroom staff. So lets come off the 'number 2' diss.
pricesoft
** I can't understand the bile poured towards Benitez by Chelsea 'fans' who are all so slighted by the fact that he 'disrespected' Chelsea when Liverpool manager. Surely the whole raison d'etre for a manager is to show no mercy to your opponent, to fight the established order of things for the benefit of your team. What just because he had a few pops at Chelsea (and United, and everyone he thought he was entitled to have a go at) this makes him a disgrace? Personally I think it makes him the opposite. I think it makes him exactly the sort of boss we need to get the best out of our players. And to those moaning about RA, remember if it wasn't for him we'd probably be bust, so he can do whatever the **** he likes to HIS club. Like I've said before, there is absolutely no one on this planet with Rafa's experience and success that was available until the end of the season. Roman has done what is best for our club.
djdutts
@CFCblue.est, Zended has ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BASIS and nothing on his resume to become an assistant coach in a club fighting for 5 trophies on all fronts. Even Benitez that we speak of, please read his biography before he became an assistant coach for Real Madrid. Coached their youth team all the way up just Pep, Tito and others have done before becoming assistant coaches. Zenden stopped playing football a year ago. What the heck has he learnt about coaching? If it is a PR stunt, it is stupid and just shows how arrogant and out of touch RB is with Chelsea....The manager may have his training programme and daily routines for our trainings, but the assistant manager has to oversee some of those. I really see Terry and co giving their all WITH ZENDEN giving them instructions.
KAKUfrank
@pricesoft ....Rafa said it himself at the press-conference (that Bolo No 2)
CFCblue.est
I said someone he can trust. Zenden played under RB at Liverpool. With the atmosphere that exists already Zenden was the logical choice for Rb. If it was any other coach yes I would ask why Zenden, but with Rafa it makes sense. He needs to succeed, he cannot fail, not just because he will get fired but this is make or break for him. We are all in this together and like it or not we got Zenden with us, so all we can do now is pull together. Let give them a chance and give ourselves a chance to do something good this year. Our name has been dragged through the mud lately and lets not fight. On that note I would like to sincerely apologize to GabeU, Sorry mate if I insulted you, it was all in the heat of the moment. We all feel very passionate about Chelsae Fc. Lets not embarrass ourselves on Sunday. e have to beat City and if Rafa can do it the good for us. But a decision had to be mad and unfortunately RDM got the boot.
faara23
@KAKU the truth is - itīs only your personal opinion. If you see future so clearly before it happens then maybe we should call you KAKUfrank The Legendary Palmist.
CFCblue.est
With Rafa, it MAKES NO SENSE because Zenden has zero experience to be a No. 2 at a club of Chelsea status. If you think Chelsea fans are not going STICK IT TO THESE GUYS, Stop living in Utopia. Someone told Bruce Buck in his face at the press conference today that HE IS A DISGRACE TO THE CLUB AND HAS NO SHAME. Just pray things do not go bad BECAUSE the hostility to Rafa, Zenden, Ron, Bruce and Torres will be something we've never seen before.
KAKUfrank
@KAKU ...it does not surprise me at all. To be honest Iīll hate Buck and Gorlay. They are soulless mugs..... but still....wise person donīt start criticizing new club manager before the first game. It may turn out that you must eat your words.
CFCblue.est
HERE'S A LOGICAL IDEA >> Shall we at least give Rafa a chance to see what he can do before we start slating him??
djdutts
But the fact remains we still have what we have which is RB and Zenden. I never put my faith in assistants anyway. We can ell all we want but we should not go out of our way to sabotage Rb with chants and stupid banners the will only feed the tabloids that hate us desparately
faara23
Poorres is the problem....Mata, Hazard and Oscar all know this. He gives them absolutely nothing to work with.
Ess...DaBison
What I like about this whole situation is that Rb knew wht he was getting into. He knows he is jobsitting for Pep. But here is his chance to prove the world. He knew that the Chelsea fans dont like him yet he had the guts to take the job. I dont even think RA wants him ( he never met him). Way I see it we get a hard working coach with ambition and a chip on his shoulder. End of season we get Pep. That I assure you we will get Pep.
faara23
It probably wouldn't have gotten to this point if Emenalo,Ron,Buck listened to the fans and didn't disregard their opinions,after chants about not wanting Rafa near cobham...It obviously builds hostility amongst fans. It doesn't stop me from Cheering the team and singing my hearts out. If I have as much right to cheer the team,I have the same right to show my displeasure at certain decisions made by the board. Give Rafa a chance? He has been appointed,he has got his chance...
nelyvanile
@Fara....So let's assume we end up getting Pep...we obviously know every manager has his honey moon period and slump period. With what we have learnt over the past few years,with the slump period comes the axe.
nelyvanile
IMO since the club fired Jose we have never had a coach that inspired confidence in me or gave me a sense of pride. Avram was just Avram - more like a kit boy - he actually did better than I expected. Hugh Jackman was supposed to stick to the movies. Guus was good but he did not want the job. Carlo had respect but he had not done much in the league in Italy so he did not inspire me. AVB looked like a one wonder boy to me and I think I am not that wrong. RDM is a club legend as a player and as a coach he looked like he rode the momentum (of players just being happy that AVB was gone) and luck. Most of us here were not too keen on him being appointed but because the other option available then was Rafa we took RDM BUT and its a big BUT everything was working against him - he did not have much experience to prove he was not a fluke and he has lost matches against all top managers or top teams. I am not going to be drawn into the Rafa this Rafa that debate but players and coaches move to the next job and will be professional at their new employers. Who knows maybe Rafa would be the answer to all the problems we have. Since Mourinho all the coaches we have had have had issues with part of the team. AVB had issues with the older generation, Scolari almost same thing. RDM looked like he was coming to clear out all the French speaking players including the African players. Everyone linked to Didier was cleared out - half the team that were on the pitch when we won the champions league was cleared out - Didier, Bosingwa, Khalou, Malouda, Essien, Mireiless, and Lamps had been relegated to the bench. While he had a new team his reaction to bad situations was poor - he basically had one formula - last season it was to defend and hope someone does something brilliant like what happened in the Champions league final. This season it was to play the famous trio whether it was ideal or not - like a team that has no scouting at all. Against United, Shaktar, Juve, Atletico we saw a guy who was still immature. I am so sorry he is a legend as a player but not as a coach and he made his situation worse by playing player politics and that only works when the camp you are working with delivers and if they do not they will turn against you. People can talk about Pep all they want but IMO any coach would do wonders with the players at Barca - Tito is doing the same and Pep was also a one plan man who relied on individual player brilliance. The coach I would recommend for Chelsea would be Diego Simione or Klopp. We should continue supporting our Club but forget the consipiracy theories of Pep this and Pep that - the board just moved to prevent the AVB situation where by the time they fired him we were already out of the Champions league positions whereas right now we are still in there with a shout - but if the truth be said if they had kept Roberto a little longer it would ahve been worse and with the spending the club has done we cannot afford to missout on Champions league next season. Also by the fact that he had dropped Torres on the insistence of some players then it means that he had lost the dressing room. Look at comments made by Cech about scoring and not taking our chances - if torres frustrates you by how much he misses chances imagine how much it does to the player who has passed the ball to him. The team is divided and I believe a change in coach can help fix one or two things.
BlueFortune
well am not impress with the club on this one but hey they had hardly ever let me down so i will still trust them on this. And talking about benitez, i think he is the one eating the humble pie now the statements he had made as liverpool's boss and i love the way the press threw questions @ his face which he could hardly answer. that tells him about how much he has screwed up as scouser boss. plus i can wait for how he will be discarded end of season by RA no matter how many trophies he wins. i just can't see him as boss next season from all ends
BluesInMe
@faara23 i have misjudged you..it takes a man with huge cajones to apologize when they have been wrong and to do it on an open forum. I wholeheartedly accept your apology and i also apologize unreservedly for any of color things i may have said in response. Lets just forget it all and move forward. As i have said repeatedly i am trying to see this whole thing from both sides. Anyone who knows me knows i love Roman and appreciate all he has done for the club but what i will never do is say he has done well when i think he has bottled it. The man probably has way too many yes men as it is it. I think that is one of the problems we have at Chelsea FC..Roman has no one in his management team of enough clout to tell him straight up when he is making a mistake. He is wealthy enough that most times he can buy his way past his mistakes as he did with the sheva debacle but one can only push one's luck so far. I hope and pray it turns out well..i would much rather find that all my fears were unfounded and that this all turns out great for us. I care nothing about being right if it means Chelsea FC suffers.
GabeU
@kaku,what do you have against zenden??..
Ken4CFC
Thanks GabeU, Like I said we all in this together. I agree there are a few individuals who have asserted themselves RA's close circle. And these are the people responsible, either by being yes men, or giving RA wrong advice. I feel though we were on a very slippery slope with RDM. We would have probably never recovered from. Maybe the way it was done was not what we would have wanted or the replacement who we would have wanted, lets be glad he gave him till end of year. The main thing survive and get into top 4, if our luck holds maybe Sharktar will want to win. Juve is not that good. in actual fact they should have never beaten us, Italian football is in shambles right now. Sharktar will want to finish top of the group coz if they dont they get to play top of the group.
faara23
@Kaku...The fact that Zenden stopped playing football just last season and is young does not mean he is not sound enough and will not make a good assistant Manager. You are just angry Rafa is the new boss. Get over it and support him, there is nothing we can do about it, if he fails it means CFC has failed again, he is experienced enough, tactically sound and knows exactly what he is getting himself into. He believes in his abilities and knows the EPL very well. I give him my 100percent support. Go Rafa!!!
SameX
Booing him will destroy our players mindset and we all know we have many young players now, they are fragile. We must support him and forget about the past, Fergie and JM have said worse to other teams and fans, it is time to move on. I have watched football long enough to know most things those Managers say are just mind games, ask Fergie.
SameX
And please dont say because Zenden did not win anything as a player so he is not qualified to be Rafa's no. 2. Coaching is not proportional to playing, they are world apart, being a classy player does not mean you will end up a classy manager, ask Maradona. Mourinho said he was not good @playing football so he ventured into coaching and now he is among the best managers in the world.
SameX
The only problem with Zenden might be his age, but if he is really good and knows football, the players will love and respect him, especially if he comes to terms with the likes of Lamps, Terry, Cole and Cech.
SameX
I dont know if we will win against City but I know Mancini does not have half of the football brain Rafa has. Rafa will totally outsmart him, City can only win if Torres waste our chances or their CF's produce moments of individual brilliance.
SameX
Gabeu and Faara....You guys are real men.
SameX
Anyway, all I want is for us to keep supporting CFC, these things happen in football, Managers circulate, they come and go, Spurs fans were calling AVB the DVD boy last season but now he is the tactical genius. Just support Rafa, support our young gems and CFC as a whole. He may end up doing wonders.
SameX
One of Rafa's first and greatest challenges is what to do with El Nino..second to Del Bosque, El Nino sees Rafa as his second football father..this could both be a disadvantage and a strength. For his own good Rafa has to decide how long he can afford to wait for El Nino to either start performing or deploy some kind of plan B. Also if he is wise he better insist that come the January window he get at least one and i would suggest preferably two insurance strikers even if El nino is still with us. He cannot allow sentiments on this issue cloud his judgement because he does not have the wiggle room for mistakes that his predecessors had.
GabeU
What people have a hard time understanding is that you can support the club with all your heart and not support the manager. Chelsea supporters who "support" Rafa - have no self-respect. Plain and simple. Him and Torres left their hearts at Liverpool. This Man spit in our faces, not once, not twice, but many times. If this continues, we risk losing who we are - Where are the likes of today's Matthew Harding...
parker26
Di Matteo... form is temporary, class is permanent. Club legend.. then, now, always. Up the Blues! - Jog on Rafa.
parker26
I try to approach each situation with common sense. That said, w.t.f. is booing and hissing coupled with vitriolic laced comments gonna show our boys on the pitch? I will never respect Rafa but I will support the position he has as 'manager' of our fine club. I fear for a total implosion if things go sour in the weeks and months ahead. I say F* it, I love Chelsea and our boys and will support them even more now since Rafa's appointment because any other reaction directed towards Rafa is going to dwell in the players' minds along with their already justified hate towards him and I fear the marriage of those two things spells doom, no matter what.
ForeverChels
Thanks @Samex.
faara23
Hey how about something positive. Guess what Rafa's first 11 will look like. I would say Cech, Brana, Cole, Cahill, Luiz, Mikel, Rami, Osar, Mata, Hazard, Torres. But I see a 4-2-3-1 or maybe 4-4-2. One thing though I think we will see a more disciplined defence. And I have a feeling Torres will come alive. We have to beat City and like ole Harry said beat City, get Jt back and Rafa will be fine.
faara23
And on the subject if RB was appointed to get Torres back on track is pure and utter speculation. Maybe it played a large role in his hiring, who knows? All I know is Nando works just as hard in as many games as he doesn't. The lad is on obscene wages, but money alone cannot put the fire in his belly to bounce up and not sulk and look at the ref when he trips and falls to the pitch. I think his time is up tbh, his character is becoming more clear every day that passes. He's too damn fragile mentally. Feckin' shoulda became a scientist so I could clone JT to replace Nando. That's character. OK, rant over. Cheers boys
ForeverChels
If I was RDM I would have done a Pep after we won the CL. Take a rest away from it all. He knew he wasnt the 1st choice. He had just won the Cl. His stoke was at its highest. He was in a no win situation the end was always gonna be bad. He knew he had so much luck. He knew Lampard, Cech, Mikel, JT and Drogba won him the CL. Why not leave on a high. The end was always gonna be bad. He knew the shadow of Pep was hanging over him like the sword of damocles. He knew this was a little bit over his head but he took the challenge. Sentiment aside he made a whole bunch of money, so I do. He were in a bad state with no sign of improving, something had to give.
faara23
So the general concensus of the "other side" of things is - capitulate and accept our fate.... With Rafa at the helm..... Pure passion boys. Don't make noise because it may upset people.... Sounds like a plan. If we do nothing else, please at the very least chant Di Matteo's name - I think he deserves it.
parker26
I have a feeling Marin might start to get some game time. I really liked what I saw pre-season. He is very direct which scares defenders in the League. AM will sell Falcao, thats certain, they will do in Jan, thats why he hasnt played a single Europa game. I think its time to ettle on Oscar as the conductor of our orchestra. Push mata and Hazard wide. Maybe a 4-3-3. I have a feeling we will win against city.
faara23
If Roman thinks that RAFA is the right man to take the club forward then we should support his decision, and get behind our new manager. Feeling low at this point of time and distrusting Roman's vision for the club will not be benefitial for anyone who loves CFC.
kamran_ma
kaku totally agree with you....the fan should make roman and his joker feel that they had made a huge mistake this time by appoint ing the big spanish fool stupid idotic waiter to handle our club like chelsea..
shlok27
i'm with u on this.cfc was our football club first then a buissness.i'm really grateful to roman and all but he is not taking our view on board is he?i heard that he had been talked out of sacking rdm after wba loss.some newspapers also said that buck and gourlay wanted to give rdm more time so we know where the trigger was pulled.roman wants the best for cfc we all know that but it does backfire after all roman is as human as we are.
blueskywalker
Jog on a$$licker. @Cfcblue..
Krested Kal-el
is roman making chelsea in to barcleona or liverpool...the way we are going now one day we would be fightng for europa league place....so many reject of liverpool are already thereat chelse and now we had added the big one....roman needs some mental help because his madness for making chelsea into barcelona is taking a great toll on his mental health...chelsea today has become from on of the respected club to a utter shame....first it was racist controversies and now mangerial circus and the refree controversies one by one all this stuff had lead chelsea stature to a downfall....roman should fire first gourlay and buck they are main person who has lead this stuff to happen....first get rid of all the jokers who are handling our club..
shlok27
Not a lot of fans are happy about the appointment. We all hoped for someone else. Still, this is a short period of time after which I hope Pep will be our manager. The empty seat is a good way to show your feelings, but let us stay united and help the club get over this bad period. Come on Chelsea (with 41 years of ups and downs with Chelsea)!
1970Blue
....This is a big challenge. I've been waiting for this chance. I could have gone to other countries for big, big money but I wanted to stay in England for a big...on why he (Rafa) hasn't been working the past 2 years
@Mq
...we have a chance to win 5 Cups and that motivated me to accept the position....talk about #ambition this is just brilliant. Finally some1 who isn't 'shy' or timid to discuss wanting to win :)
@Mq
RDM asked for it by lacking ambition. Let's see what "top" club will hire such a Manager, proving just how right we are in sacking him, not good enough, Just not good enough :)
@Mq
come @mq every manager who gets appoints will talk that type of sheet..that he willdo thi and that...thefac is that the guy was jobless for 2 year no big club were intersted in signing him....roman was the only fool who took this liverpool reject to manage chelsea
shlok27
maybe so SHLOK but let's judge him on his football, the rest is unnecessary details.
@Mq
RDM got sacked rightly so, likewise Eva the medic, she wasn't delivering or rather not 'healing'...Sturridge was out for a looong time, come's back ang get's injured after 2 games, like wtf?? Lamps was scheduled for a couple of weeks off, that's increasingly looking like a couple of months (not that I want him back anyways) our injured players are out for way longer than expected, she had to go plain and simple.
@Mq
I will keep telling you that we aill never agree as chelsea fans. Let us try to embrase the team and keep our trust in Roman since he is the only person who has some say at chelsea
Kendemsblue
He calls the shots, he buys the manager, he buys players, he can decide whatever he wants at chelsea and we are to keep up with all these if we wants to be chelsea fans. And also if we wan to be happy at the end of it all.
Kendemsblue
@mq..sturridge.. i dont think sturridge was injured personally there may be something behind the scene that may be going that we dont know at all....when sturridge was fit enough also then also he was not getting that enough chances at all...i wholy blame roman for persisting the likes of torres who we al know is totally finished to make him play each and every match even though he was no delevering at all..
shlok27
may be if we had a good striker things would have been different at chelsea....we could have been top of the pl and could have been already qualified in cl knock out stages...but that not the case at all now....i admire roman for what he has done for chelsea till now...but this latest antics of this managerial circus was the worst of it...i dont know may be rafa will bring trophy at chelsea...but the way he is conducting his madness of chelsea to turn into barcelona will shot back at us one day...its looking all good now but in future it wil become a big issue for us..
shlok27
Rafa is a saddistic asshole judging on his personality, it was so clear at the presser, the man is effing arrogant, but as I said, he can be brilliant (atimes) and he can be as terrible as scholari or more, he did not win with valencia playing attacking football, go check ur stats, he scored 58 goals in a whole season, his buys are so terrible healthy fans could develop a stroke in weeks after the transfer window, I don't like the man for anything, but as I said since his appointment, I will only support him on his footballing success, nothing more..... So the deal is, let's see what he can do before we judge him and not be a pessimist, we can't say we want rafa to fail just to proof a point can we? Then that will make us the lowest scum to live on planet earth!!! Only scums and never-do-wells do that, faara and gabeu, both of u made good points, and u settle ur issues like grownups. I hope rafa and our fans do that cum sunday
Desmondadonis
To those id0ts calling any body that disagrees with them a "plastic" or "glory hunter", chelsea has become an international brand and its fan base has grown to become a worldwide brotherhood under the love of football, most of its fans (I'm sure 90% of them across the globe) came to love the club after Roman bought it and brought it to the international venue. So if you believe your opinion should be given more emphasis here at VC than, say, a man in some south Asian country who scarifies his well earned good night sleep every week to watch Chelsea play, you can go and feck yourselves because the club has out grown you.
zosBlue
@SameX, "The fact that Zenden stopped playing football just last season and is young does not mean he is not sound enough and will not make a good assistant Manager." Are you on crack or cocaine? The first team manager is expected to bounce of ideas from the assistant manager. Go and check the resumes of Steve Bould, Mick Phelan, Brian Kidd, Karanka or even Eddie Newton. So YES, Zenden is not sound enough because he has ZERO COACHING EXPERIENCE compared to individuals in a similar POSITION. And please DO NOT BORE ME WITH THIS SUPPORT RAFA STUFF. It is done. No need trying to rally me about that. Similar to boring me about supporting Malouda. YAWN!!!!!!!!!
KAKUfrank
Sturridge was injured in tha game against WBA and he was limping in the last 10 minutes of the game.
Kendemsblue
 

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