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I will never forgive Fernando Torres

I will never forgive Fernando Torres

I cannot wait to see the back of El Nino.

No Chelsea fan can deny that his performances have been shocking in every sense since his move. If he was simply a bad player, then we could accept that. Bad players cannot improve their talent, they cannot be blamed for not being better than they are. But this is not the case with Torres.

He does almost nothing on the pitch. If you go onto BBC live text and ctrl-F ('find') Torres - his mentions are almost non-existent. He does nothing which deserves mention from the commentators. Watch the games live and marvel at how rarely he can actually be bothered to get in the box.

I see a Chelsea attack and Torres is just simply not visible on the TV screen. He runs out wide when he thinks the ball will go into to the box, and run through the middle when the ball is going out wide. Or just doesn't run at all.

When I was young and playing football at school I was still a little scared of heading the ball. So I, if told to go up for a corner, would stand around at the back post, or purposefully miss-time a jump so the ball would go way over my head.

Not something to be proud of I know ... but I was young and not getting paid £200,000 per week. I see Torres doing all these things. For someone who used to do it all the time, it is obvious and shameful for a professional footballer.

The most frustrating thing is that it is not necessary. Against Liverpool, he actually did much better than normal: he was motivated, and almost scored two goals. This clearly shows that Torres is not working in other games because, simply, he cannot be bothered.

And the final straw is the sacking of Di Matteo. Benitez has been brought in, and whatever anyone thinks about that, a large part is because Roman thinks he can get the best out of the £50m man.

With a striker who was performing, RDM would not have been forced to play without any striker. Think how little faith RDM must have in Torres: he plays NO STRIKER for the first time at CFC in at least the last 10 years. Torres has not just cost the club £50m, but has also cost RDM, who all Chelsea fans owe a great deal of debt and gratitude, his job.

When RDM played for us he gave 100%, and when he managed, he always conducted himself with dignity. Torres has done neither: remember the interview after our Champions League victory saying how, in short, he didn't really care because he didn't have a starring role?


Of course, I still want Torres to do well. He is a Chelsea player, and him doing well is good for the club. But I give my undertaking that he will never be the name on the back of any Chelsea shirt of mine. And unless he does demonstrate some miraculous improvement, get him out.

Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

Date:Thursday November 22 2012
Time: 1:07PM


We defended him for so long despite his lack of goals becuase at least we felt he was putting in the effort and getting assists but the tipping point was last week. I just cant stand to watch him in a Chelsea shirt, send him packing with Rafa in the summer
22/11/2012 13:19:00
All I can say is that you must be watching a completely different club to me. Torres isn't scoring and that's a fact I agree with you on, but one thing he is doing is occupying the defenders and creating space for others. You think it's a coincidence that other people score goals when he's on the pitch? If he was doing absolutely nothing then no-one would bother marking him and the other players would have their hands full with the defenders. People have this misconceived idea that Torres cost RDM his job. The fact is that he's one of many contributing factors that things were going wrong. Torres not scoring (ignoring what I wrote above). Luiz making silly errors at the back costing us goals. Ivanovic being too slow to cover at RB. JT, Lampard and Cole getting injuries putting pressure on the younger guys to step up to the same quality (which they haven't achieved BTW). Mikel and Ramires unable to string two passes together in the middle of the field. No width to our play in attack... Unless Torres drifts out wide to get the ball which is exactly what WE DON'T WANT. Sorry, but blaming everything on Torres is naive at best. We have far bigger problems than a striker who is failing to score.
22/11/2012 13:42:00
Bizarre_Blue I am a season ticket holder, i agree with you partially that its not entirely down to Torres but if we had a striker on the pitch that actually looked like he cared one bit we might be in a different place. He averages 2 shots at goal a game, yes 2!!! Dont give me he doesnt get service, he does and plenty of it...The problem is his first touch is awful his second touch is shameful and he has no idea where the goal is. He cant pass the ball, trap the ball, hold the ball up, bring in other players, his decision making is awful and 18 goals in 86 games under 3 managers says all you need to know about this plank of a centre forward. We have bought players to support him and now changed managers to support him - the sooner this chump of a player is out the better....
22/11/2012 13:49:00
Somebody please tell me Who you are all talking about guys? Fernando Torres? I thought the striker is dead even before 2 years..Now all we have at CFC is a ghost whose name is Mrs.FernandoTorres..Even she could do a better job if we actually put her on the pitch than his husbands ghost.
22/11/2012 13:54:00
22/11/2012 14:00:00
So here's a question..... WHAT IF Rafa does get Torres scoring goals again? What if he does manage to get him integrated in the team? I guess everyone cheering for his demise will have a fair amount of humble pie to eat. Regardless of whether you like a player or not, he is part of this club. Whilst he puts on that shirt and makes a contribution NO MATTER HOW SMALL, I'll support him. The fact is that we have no better striker to replace him with right now, and until we do we need to back him like any other member of the team. And before anyone asks, no I don't think Sturridge is a better striker. Sturridge needs to run at people to be most effective. 2nd striker yes. Point-man no.
22/11/2012 14:01:00
Forgive him or not.. That's you ****ing business!!!
22/11/2012 14:02:00
Did Torres kill somebody? This is getting ridiculous. He sucks now ,but it doesn't mean people should be butt hurt everyday.
22/11/2012 14:03:00
People said that we should be probably play with false 9! Torres is already a false 9!
22/11/2012 14:06:00
I find your "Torres Problem" the absolute ultimate in poetic justice. He apparently fell victim to "Andreyi Schevchenko Syndrome". I LOVE it when Roman takes out his checkbook and tries to buy his way to another trophy, only to have it blow up in his face. The surprising thing is that Benitez hasn't been sacked, even though he hasn't won ANYTHING yet...What a joke Chelsea FC is and will continue to be as long as Abramovich runs the show (circus).
22/11/2012 14:11:00
guys its difficult times ahead.. and one thing that does more damage in the difficult times is BLAME GAME.. please stop blaming.. whole team is to blame for this.. did you watch the juventus game?? we were like headless chickens. we had no identity.. players were not sure about their passes.. and once we concede the first and mata missed that opportunity, game was over.. rdm paid for the results.. i think the club made decision on the last years bases.. last year we were slowly drifting downwards (same pattern is going with us currently) and before we made changes, it was too late for us to stop slide and finish in top 4. so before the same happens this year, we made changes to stop that happening.
22/11/2012 14:12:00
@Chuks Do you really believe that drivel? It suggests that JT had as much to do with RDM getting fired as Torres. The chances are that the real reason that RDM lost his job was down to: 1) Yet another bad November of results. First Carlo then AVB had bad Novembers and in both cases we lost touch with the league leader. In the second case we lost touch with the top four. There is no way that the club would allow that to happen again, so bad November is the number one reason why he went. 2) Tactical naivety. There were times this season where it was obvious that RDM was struggling. There were times when things weren't working on the pitch and he didn't even effect his full three subs. He played people out of position and failed to realise the bad pairing between Lampard and Mikel at the early part of the season. The lack of tactics vs West Brom and then the shambles at Juve were the final straw. 3) Loss of morale. It's a sad fact that as much as a manager can be the "best friend" type, that doesn't mean they can motivate successful teams of people. You can go the other way and be like AVB, but both fail for their own reasons. Once you lose the overall morale of a group, it needs a jolt to bring it back. Roman tried that with his visit to Cobham in Sept and it worked for a bit. When the spiral of low morale started again, the pressure built and this also led to the axe falling. I love RDM as a club legend and respect everything he did for the club. Do I think he deserved to stay longer? Yes I do. But also I understand WHY this decision was made at this time. For certain it wasn't for just ONE STRIKER like many people seem to want to believe. But then again I guess it's easier to just blame one person than address the real underlying problems at our club?
22/11/2012 14:14:00
because whatever you hope, we are out of champions league. and we can not risk our next years champions league qualification. because of this early sack, rdm will be actually leave with his head held high.. so i will just say, stop blame game and get behind the team!!
22/11/2012 14:14:00
love this...
22/11/2012 14:29:00
Bizarre_blue you must be joking,on the Torres part.
22/11/2012 15:12:00
I was one of the few fans who saw a washed off Torres even before he joined us and to think that we sent Drogba because of this uncomitted, ungrateful excuse of a striker. I know some are already hoping that Rafa will bring him back to the Old Torres but Im so sure that wont happen bcus this guy simply does not care about CFC. I hope Benitez will leave sentiments aside and do the right thing. Buy a new Striker as soon Jan. transfer opens.
22/11/2012 15:20:00
22/11/2012 15:40:00
i agree he seems like he does not want to take responsibility
22/11/2012 15:51:00
The solution to Chelsea's problems are simple...1) find a MOTIVATED CF..Torres is not heart..2) improve the overall team defense. Explain to Luiz that he needs to keep it simple and to play the ball forward to the midfield and not bomb it long. Have him focus on his positioning and not get caught out of position. The boy has skill..but he needs to learn how to mentally focus...3) Get a passing playmaking quality CM that can play in the pivot and increase speed of play. Josh McEachran? 4) increase overall speed of play...Chelsea plays the ball so slow that the opposing team is allowed to easily set up to defend. There it is Tubby..all spelled out for you...
22/11/2012 15:54:00
I would never join this anti-Rafa regime over here. I just don't know what the F he did to all of you or to Chelsea. Making some comments when he was in a rival team? Uff. Sick lot. But this one I agree with. I can't tolerate this *****head torres who cost many managers their job, and moaned and complained about our club when he won UCL and FA for free after producing a series of shyt performances. This bloody fcker needs to be kicked out. And I have to change my ID too.
22/11/2012 16:19:00
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