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I will never forgive Fernando Torres

I cannot wait to see the back of El Nino.

No Chelsea fan can deny that his performances have been shocking in every sense since his move. If he was simply a bad player, then we could accept that. Bad players cannot improve their talent, they cannot be blamed for not being better than they are. But this is not the case with Torres.

He does almost nothing on the pitch. If you go onto BBC live text and ctrl-F ('find') Torres - his mentions are almost non-existent. He does nothing which deserves mention from the commentators. Watch the games live and marvel at how rarely he can actually be bothered to get in the box.

I see a Chelsea attack and Torres is just simply not visible on the TV screen. He runs out wide when he thinks the ball will go into to the box, and run through the middle when the ball is going out wide. Or just doesn't run at all.

When I was young and playing football at school I was still a little scared of heading the ball. So I, if told to go up for a corner, would stand around at the back post, or purposefully miss-time a jump so the ball would go way over my head.

Not something to be proud of I know ... but I was young and not getting paid £200,000 per week. I see Torres doing all these things. For someone who used to do it all the time, it is obvious and shameful for a professional footballer.

The most frustrating thing is that it is not necessary. Against Liverpool, he actually did much better than normal: he was motivated, and almost scored two goals. This clearly shows that Torres is not working in other games because, simply, he cannot be bothered.

And the final straw is the sacking of Di Matteo. Benitez has been brought in, and whatever anyone thinks about that, a large part is because Roman thinks he can get the best out of the £50m man.

With a striker who was performing, RDM would not have been forced to play without any striker. Think how little faith RDM must have in Torres: he plays NO STRIKER for the first time at CFC in at least the last 10 years. Torres has not just cost the club £50m, but has also cost RDM, who all Chelsea fans owe a great deal of debt and gratitude, his job.

When RDM played for us he gave 100%, and when he managed, he always conducted himself with dignity. Torres has done neither: remember the interview after our Champions League victory saying how, in short, he didn't really care because he didn't have a starring role?


Of course, I still want Torres to do well. He is a Chelsea player, and him doing well is good for the club. But I give my undertaking that he will never be the name on the back of any Chelsea shirt of mine. And unless he does demonstrate some miraculous improvement, get him out.

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Writer: saemus Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday November 22 2012

Time: 1:07PM

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We defended him for so long despite his lack of goals becuase at least we felt he was putting in the effort and getting assists but the tipping point was last week. I just cant stand to watch him in a Chelsea shirt, send him packing with Rafa in the summer
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22/11/2012 13:19:00

All I can say is that you must be watching a completely different club to me. Torres isn't scoring and that's a fact I agree with you on, but one thing he is doing is occupying the defenders and creating space for others. You think it's a coincidence that other people score goals when he's on the pitch? If he was doing absolutely nothing then no-one would bother marking him and the other players would have their hands full with the defenders. People have this misconceived idea that Torres cost RDM his job. The fact is that he's one of many contributing factors that things were going wrong. Torres not scoring (ignoring what I wrote above). Luiz making silly errors at the back costing us goals. Ivanovic being too slow to cover at RB. JT, Lampard and Cole getting injuries putting pressure on the younger guys to step up to the same quality (which they haven't achieved BTW). Mikel and Ramires unable to string two passes together in the middle of the field. No width to our play in attack... Unless Torres drifts out wide to get the ball which is exactly what WE DON'T WANT. Sorry, but blaming everything on Torres is naive at best. We have far bigger problems than a striker who is failing to score.
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22/11/2012 13:42:00

Bizarre_Blue I am a season ticket holder, i agree with you partially that its not entirely down to Torres but if we had a striker on the pitch that actually looked like he cared one bit we might be in a different place. He averages 2 shots at goal a game, yes 2!!! Dont give me he doesnt get service, he does and plenty of it...The problem is his first touch is awful his second touch is shameful and he has no idea where the goal is. He cant pass the ball, trap the ball, hold the ball up, bring in other players, his decision making is awful and 18 goals in 86 games under 3 managers says all you need to know about this plank of a centre forward. We have bought players to support him and now changed managers to support him - the sooner this chump of a player is out the better....
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22/11/2012 13:49:00

Somebody please tell me Who you are all talking about guys? Fernando Torres? I thought the striker is dead even before 2 years..Now all we have at CFC is a ghost whose name is Mrs.FernandoTorres..Even she could do a better job if we actually put her on the pitch than his husbands ghost.
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22/11/2012 13:54:00
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22/11/2012 14:00:00

So here's a question..... WHAT IF Rafa does get Torres scoring goals again? What if he does manage to get him integrated in the team? I guess everyone cheering for his demise will have a fair amount of humble pie to eat. Regardless of whether you like a player or not, he is part of this club. Whilst he puts on that shirt and makes a contribution NO MATTER HOW SMALL, I'll support him. The fact is that we have no better striker to replace him with right now, and until we do we need to back him like any other member of the team. And before anyone asks, no I don't think Sturridge is a better striker. Sturridge needs to run at people to be most effective. 2nd striker yes. Point-man no.
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22/11/2012 14:01:00

Forgive him or not.. That's you ****ing business!!!
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22/11/2012 14:02:00

Did Torres kill somebody? This is getting ridiculous. He sucks now ,but it doesn't mean people should be butt hurt everyday.
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22/11/2012 14:03:00

People said that we should be probably play with false 9! Torres is already a false 9!
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22/11/2012 14:06:00

I find your "Torres Problem" the absolute ultimate in poetic justice. He apparently fell victim to "Andreyi Schevchenko Syndrome". I LOVE it when Roman takes out his checkbook and tries to buy his way to another trophy, only to have it blow up in his face. The surprising thing is that Benitez hasn't been sacked, even though he hasn't won ANYTHING yet...What a joke Chelsea FC is and will continue to be as long as Abramovich runs the show (circus).
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22/11/2012 14:11:00

guys its difficult times ahead.. and one thing that does more damage in the difficult times is BLAME GAME.. please stop blaming.. whole team is to blame for this.. did you watch the juventus game?? we were like headless chickens. we had no identity.. players were not sure about their passes.. and once we concede the first and mata missed that opportunity, game was over.. rdm paid for the results.. i think the club made decision on the last years bases.. last year we were slowly drifting downwards (same pattern is going with us currently) and before we made changes, it was too late for us to stop slide and finish in top 4. so before the same happens this year, we made changes to stop that happening.
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22/11/2012 14:12:00

@Chuks Do you really believe that drivel? It suggests that JT had as much to do with RDM getting fired as Torres. The chances are that the real reason that RDM lost his job was down to: 1) Yet another bad November of results. First Carlo then AVB had bad Novembers and in both cases we lost touch with the league leader. In the second case we lost touch with the top four. There is no way that the club would allow that to happen again, so bad November is the number one reason why he went. 2) Tactical naivety. There were times this season where it was obvious that RDM was struggling. There were times when things weren't working on the pitch and he didn't even effect his full three subs. He played people out of position and failed to realise the bad pairing between Lampard and Mikel at the early part of the season. The lack of tactics vs West Brom and then the shambles at Juve were the final straw. 3) Loss of morale. It's a sad fact that as much as a manager can be the "best friend" type, that doesn't mean they can motivate successful teams of people. You can go the other way and be like AVB, but both fail for their own reasons. Once you lose the overall morale of a group, it needs a jolt to bring it back. Roman tried that with his visit to Cobham in Sept and it worked for a bit. When the spiral of low morale started again, the pressure built and this also led to the axe falling. I love RDM as a club legend and respect everything he did for the club. Do I think he deserved to stay longer? Yes I do. But also I understand WHY this decision was made at this time. For certain it wasn't for just ONE STRIKER like many people seem to want to believe. But then again I guess it's easier to just blame one person than address the real underlying problems at our club?
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22/11/2012 14:14:00

because whatever you hope, we are out of champions league. and we can not risk our next years champions league qualification. because of this early sack, rdm will be actually leave with his head held high.. so i will just say, stop blame game and get behind the team!!
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22/11/2012 14:14:00

love this...
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22/11/2012 14:29:00

Bizarre_blue you must be joking,on the Torres part.
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22/11/2012 15:12:00

I was one of the few fans who saw a washed off Torres even before he joined us and to think that we sent Drogba because of this uncomitted, ungrateful excuse of a striker. I know some are already hoping that Rafa will bring him back to the Old Torres but Im so sure that wont happen bcus this guy simply does not care about CFC. I hope Benitez will leave sentiments aside and do the right thing. Buy a new Striker as soon Jan. transfer opens.
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22/11/2012 15:20:00
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22/11/2012 15:40:00

i agree he seems like he does not want to take responsibility
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22/11/2012 15:51:00

The solution to Chelsea's problems are simple...1) find a MOTIVATED CF..Torres is not heart..2) improve the overall team defense. Explain to Luiz that he needs to keep it simple and to play the ball forward to the midfield and not bomb it long. Have him focus on his positioning and not get caught out of position. The boy has skill..but he needs to learn how to mentally focus...3) Get a passing playmaking quality CM that can play in the pivot and increase speed of play. Josh McEachran? 4) increase overall speed of play...Chelsea plays the ball so slow that the opposing team is allowed to easily set up to defend. There it is Tubby..all spelled out for you...
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22/11/2012 15:54:00

I would never join this anti-Rafa regime over here. I just don't know what the F he did to all of you or to Chelsea. Making some comments when he was in a rival team? Uff. Sick lot. But this one I agree with. I can't tolerate this *****head torres who cost many managers their job, and moaned and complained about our club when he won UCL and FA for free after producing a series of shyt performances. This bloody fcker needs to be kicked out. And I have to change my ID too.
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22/11/2012 16:19:00

He occupies defenders?? In your dreams. Defenders have field day whenever he is on.
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22/11/2012 16:21:00

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22/11/2012 16:23:00

what if RDM benched Torr-Mented1 but played a balanced team vs Juve and we won, do you think he'd have been sacked for dropping Torr-Mented1?? Give the guy a break, RDM brought this all upon himself
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22/11/2012 16:24:00

I co-sign 100% with BIZARRE
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22/11/2012 16:27:00

Mq i told you that ROMAN FORCED di mateo to play Torres!!!!!!
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22/11/2012 16:55:00

So you will never forgive Torres??? Lol! Thats Interesting. Just get over It, he came and put in a lot of effort at a point, he wanted to get back to his best but he is just very unlucky, he has lost what made him that Fearful CF of those days. He is not a bad guy, he knows he owes the fans but things are not just working for him, you dont have to have any grudge against him. Just forget about it and move on. Even Benitez will bench him for Danny and get another CF in January if he does not perform.
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22/11/2012 17:00:00

i hate torres big time sooner hes gone the better and now we got more liverpool garbage arghhh so fecked off!!!!
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22/11/2012 17:01:00

@Mq Di Matteo set the team up to play on the counter attack, which we had THREE good chances to actually pull it off, if it worked, RDM would be a genius! Still is! When this blonde b*****d came on, he ruined EVERYTHING! GET LOST TORRES!
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22/11/2012 17:06:00

God we are such a joke its embarrassing!!
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22/11/2012 17:29:00

We just can't keep defending Torres forever. Ever since he joined us, the excuse has been that he doesn't get enough service but now we have the players to provide him with all the services yet he's still misfiring. I think its time we accept that he will never be back to his best. Its as if we play with 10 players every time he's on the pitch
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22/11/2012 17:29:00

Torres is a waste and I for one cant wait for the day he leaves. I never wanted Poorres no way near the club in the first place and was screaming for Aguero at the time who was much cheaper, younger and did prove to be better. As for Rafa, I hope his gayness for Poorres doesn't block the chances of the better striker Sturridge. But knowing the clown it will.
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22/11/2012 17:29:00

1st time toress was benched this season and RDM loses his job, so sad,
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22/11/2012 17:33:00

Drogba where are you we need you.If only he was given him the 2 year deal he wanted .Oh well we've got Torres our knight in sheening armour.
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22/11/2012 17:39:00

If only he was given ..i meant to say
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22/11/2012 17:46:00

now there is no more chelsea....roman is just think about making his 50 million junk toy to start again which he should have never brought at all.....and other big mistake he has done now appointing a big fat junkmaster who looks like a douche bag to start his 50 million junk toy....first we had 50 million junk toy and now we have his junkmaster also.....both should be send to junkyard but roman bought both of them here and making chelsea a junkyard...
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22/11/2012 17:50:00

I still stand by what I say Torres is on borrowed time at Chelsea only if Roman can put his faith in his coach rather then a 50m flop.
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22/11/2012 18:30:00

The title of this article is childish. I didn't even bother to read this rant
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22/11/2012 18:32:00

Right on, Torres is ripe for the abattoir. Sooner the better he's dragging the club down with his petulance. Kezman, Sheva, Sutton he's put you all in the shade. Mind you must be difficult pill to swallow, 50M for frightened little has been.
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22/11/2012 19:01:00

Torrees has 2 months to prove him self once and for all or will be ditch in january. I don't think Roman has any more patience with him.
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22/11/2012 19:42:00

1 year contract prolongalion policy of over 30ys old cfc players doesnt look productive.
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22/11/2012 19:56:00

Nice to read all your comments, most of you blame Torres ,.. can any one tell me how many goals did Drogba score and in how many matches. First of all chelsea needs to play better, they should feed the strikers as many as possible. but in chelsea, each and every one wants to score and they dont feed torres at the right time. if you could check liverpool now , how does Suarez score. its just because he is given most of the passes. Seriously Torres is a wonderful player and is still... The game that liverpool plays is totally different from chelsea and i dont think any footballer would loose his skills which ever team he goes to,.. its just the game that changes...
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22/11/2012 20:55:00

The only way to get rid of Torres is to Buy CFC from Roman & Sack/Sell Torres.. But incase you can't do it. I advice you go buy a good bed and SLEEP!!!
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22/11/2012 21:01:00

Nice reading ur comments all but the writer must be deluded...torres didn't cost rdm his job...Rdm lost his job because he ran out of luck, you need to be astute tactically to coach a top side...using the same line up over and again, ignoring the mercurial marin for moses?!? Not rotating his squad cost him his job and to think he got the job in the first place was a fluke cos of the media bruhaha...he's simply not good enough and can't remember when the cfc board got 0706050169 wrong...yes always rite...wish rafa d best and am all for him esp. As he's anti fergi
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22/11/2012 22:10:00

"I will never forgive Fernando Torres" what the? This stuff is cracking me up! He gets blamed if there's no toilet paper in the restroom stalls at the stadium! Lol
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22/11/2012 22:16:00

Clueless u Chelsea fans! Take off your blue tinted glasses And witness how unselfish he is and how he creates as many as he scores! Go sign drogba back and see if your position improves! Accept there's two better teams in manchester better than u, change your nappy and get on with it! U talk utter nonsense!
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22/11/2012 23:37:00

Jesus christ get over it. He isn't scoring goals? No **** ****. Who cares? I'm fed up with all these Fernando Torres is the scourge of Chelsea he is causing all of our problems in life and if he would leave Chelsea would be perfect. No he hasn't been scoring. But he has created endless goals either by movement, creating space for the person who gave the assist, and, quite often, giving the assist himself. No he isn't the player we expected. But he is still doing good on the pitch, furthermore, he works his **** ass off. I don't know who you've been watching but every game I watch I see him running all over the place, coming back to defend (something I don't see of many strikers in the world, and certainly didn't see in him before he was blue). He goes out onto the wings to pick up the ball just to try and get involved and help out. He works as hard if not harder than anyone on the pitch. No he hasn't been what we expected, what we hoped. No he hasn't been worth his price tag. But he isn't the cause of RDM losing his job. We all had doubts about RDM as a tactician, I prayed that he would do well but I'm gonna be honest he lost the plot a bit. We started against Juve with 5 defenders, 1 defensive mid, Ramires who is a half defensive mid, and then no striker. The odds of us scoring with that setup where mid-low at best. The tactics of his most recent games have been bizarre, as Teebhat says, playing Moses over Marin, you've got to be kidding. Marin was our top player preseason, I thought Marin looked as good as Hazard before his injury. I understand your grief. But I think you need to reconsider your entire argument. Finally, I wish the best to Benitez, give him a chance, he could well be a perfect fit.
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22/11/2012 23:57:00

Well said Ghostwriter.. People are in denial the squad and club is struggling as a whole, have and always will try to blame Torres.. These kiddie rant articles are funny though..
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23/11/2012 01:19:00

Please give Torres another chance and assess him when he worked with RB. All of us have faith with him to deliver for the upcoming World Club Championship. If needed we could bring in Falcao (if we are still in Champions League) to bring another dimension to the team and some players that fits to the plan (RA & ME need to decide who). At worst there are still Europa League (nothing to shout but good exposure to youngsters) and another route to UEFA Super Cup... Give RB and Torres the support and we are not even half of the season....
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23/11/2012 02:16:00

useless article...blaming torres for RDM sacking...RDM is responsible for his own sacking. Everyone's destiny is in their hands.
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23/11/2012 05:47:00

drogba that torres gets out of his shadow.rdm gone.becoz he didn't play torres.benitez that cfc get the best out of torres..its technically not his fault and he may just be a scapegoat but that crybaby attitude is what gets to me.if he wants to be on the pitch then he has to show that he is good enough but all he does is sulking.that is the bad part.
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23/11/2012 06:01:00

If that is the case, then you even cease to be a chelsea fan. The players are at fault and they need to bring back the form of winning on a weekly basis
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23/11/2012 07:26:00

RDM asked for his sacking plain and simple...why play defensive footie?? Good riddance :)
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23/11/2012 07:28:00

IDIOT!!!!! Real big of you turning on one of our players. Without him, we wouldn't have had that night in Munich - remember Barca away? You are sad and pathetic - NEVER turn on our players.
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23/11/2012 08:17:00

Torres is the leading scorer on the team with Mata.. the whole team needs to play better, not just Torres. What is the obsession with hating on Torres?
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23/11/2012 09:02:00

He might surprise a few now that Benitez is in charge !!!
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23/11/2012 09:10:00

Grow up Saemus, and support Chelsea as a club not individual Players
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23/11/2012 10:09:00

djduts you muppet calling people idiots... remember to have an opinion is not idiotic it only shows that one is capable of thoughts even thou he/she is wrong. real big of you turning on one of our own fans. the game at bar a was won even without Torres goal which came in added time and only served to cap the cake. he did nothing to deserve those medals he won last season and yet he still had the foul mouth to talk rubbish... that's a player that once said he didn't care whether the team wins or looses what makes you think that he cares now. a true legend or a great player is the one that can go and play for kaizer chiefs in south africa and still bang goals for fun. torres needs the whole team to be reshaped to suit him ... I put my monthly check on that Rafa will be fired before Torres scorers 20 goals in a season... god luck waiting for that excuse of a striker from now I'll be watching a 10 man Chelsea.
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23/11/2012 10:50:00

What a waste of words and my time reading it. Ever since he came to CFC Torres has never been fed the ball in the way that suits his way of playing. Until we do that he cannot be assessed, hopefully Benitez will resolve that problem.
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23/11/2012 11:27:00

@Ranners - what does the tiger do in the forest.... he adapts
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23/11/2012 11:37:00

we need more quality writers on vital chelsea. some articles clearly should never have left the "editor's table". This sort of ranting belongs in the forum or some comment section.
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23/11/2012 18:02:00

You must realize that a game of football is played by 11 players and we must learn to look in the wider area of the game,
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24/11/2012 07:34:00

I think the truth is that he was a very bad buy, not because he can't be bothered but because he's lost the pace that gave him an edge over most other strikers, the way he was easily caught and disposessed by Kompany proves this. He's now trying to play differently to accomodate this lack of pace and it's never going to work, top strikers play on instinct as soon as they think about their next move, then the moment is lost. Torres will never be the same player that he was at Liverpool regardless of the encouragement of Benitez, he realises this and you can see it in his face, sad but true
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