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Match Day Moments - Corinthians (CWC Final)

And so the moment is upon us, our chance to announce ourselves on the world stage and become club champions of the world.

This morning in Yokohoma, in Japan, Chelsea take on a Corinthians side (from Brazil), just as keen to claim the trophy. It promises to be a titanic tussle and, as usual, we`re running our Match Day Moments thread whereby we`re asking you for your thoughts on the starting eleven and the action as it unfolds.

Keep those fingers crossed, in a couple of hours; we could very well be Club Champions of the World, or we could be coming home with our tails between our legs.

Which will it be?




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The Journalist

Writer: Merlin Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday December 16 2012

Time: 9:53AM

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lets win this chelsea
Blue India
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16/12/2012 09:57:00

Lampard???!!!
chuks09
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16/12/2012 10:03:00

You know what guys? If the apocalyptic doomsayers are right & the world really does end next Friday, we could be European & World Champions for eternity! Now wouldn't that be something? But would any of us still be around to celebrate?
analooish
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16/12/2012 10:04:00

viva chelsea
Tosco
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16/12/2012 10:05:00

Team v Corinthians: Cech; Ivan, Cahill, D Luiz, Cole; Ram, Lamps (c); Moses, Mata, Hazard; Torres. Rest of squad on bench.
ben_Crisp
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16/12/2012 10:08:00

I would of started Oscar for sure and worried about lack of proper def mid. Still nice to see Lamps back.
ben_Crisp
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16/12/2012 10:08:00

To be serious though, I'd have been tempted to play all 3 Brazilians in this game but I guess Rafa has a plan. We shall see.
analooish
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16/12/2012 10:08:00

analooish. its thw end of the long cycle 5032 years. dont panic. doesnt mean life will stop.
Clingy
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16/12/2012 10:20:00

Each time Lampard goes to his media friends and raises dust coaches start to mess up!
Ohans
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16/12/2012 10:23:00

Let's go guys, we can do this...... And It's expected and normal to see Lampard to start in this, it's CWC final and since JT is injured, Lamp is the next in line to lead the team out for this great event, even if he's only half-fit.....
Latunvic
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16/12/2012 10:24:00

The game is balance at the moment
Tosco
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16/12/2012 10:35:00

Am yet to see any LEADERSHIP here so far! We are so crap this first 5 minutes.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 10:37:00

front 4 will struggle with a lack of service.
Anarchy
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16/12/2012 10:38:00

cahill should have done better
Tosco
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16/12/2012 10:43:00

Much better now. I like that first time pass from Lamps. Now we are begining to exert authority in the game.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 10:44:00

feck all lamps haters
Gian-Franco/Luca
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16/12/2012 10:45:00

Our passing have been poor and apart from one good pass from lamps, the passes from the pivot have been wayward.
Chelz Akamz
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16/12/2012 10:49:00

Thank God for Luiz,a great defender he is. And what an error by Mata. They really wanna get us on the counter.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 10:50:00

Thank God for Luiz,a great defender he is. And what an error by Mata. They really wanna get us on the counter. And Lamps is over working Ramires in the middle. The corinthians are begining to get way too much space in our area.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 10:51:00

Mikel should have started this game.this guys are really bullying us in the midfield.OMG! Bad pass mata.
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 10:52:00

non effective midfield
mikacfc
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16/12/2012 10:53:00

What a poor freekick by Luiz. A great chance uselessed.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 10:54:00

ramires need a long spell on the bench.
valachi
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16/12/2012 10:55:00

LMFAO!Why is lampard starting this match?LEADERSHIP THEY SAY.
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 10:56:00

Moses grossly ineffective so far. Cant cross nor get pass defenders. Our flanks has been kept quiet.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 10:59:00

I hope you are watching calculated kalou
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 10:59:00

Lamrard why!
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 11:00:00

no motivation, no midfield!
unclezillion
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16/12/2012 11:02:00

The opponent has been wasteful. My God! How are we gonna keep up. These Corinthian side are really PARKING THE BUS! loolz!
Ohans
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16/12/2012 11:02:00

Our midfield is very ineffective so far.
valachi
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16/12/2012 11:03:00

What we are seeing here is what i feared all along; that a side with quality and brawn will give us problems. Also the absence of Mikel is obvious for all those who devalue what he brings to the side. At present Corinthians are bossing the central midfield and have a solid no-nonsense defense. This game will be won by who takes the few chances that they get. This will be a low scoring match.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 11:04:00

Thank God we survived! Pheeeew!!
Ohans
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16/12/2012 11:05:00

We'll win 2-1
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 11:06:00

Lampard ineffective,ramires ineffective
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 11:08:00

Lampard ineffective,ramires ineffective,moses ineffective
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 11:09:00

The midfield is none-existence.ramires and the one who's name must not be mention(cos the legend worshippers will give out statistics links) are culpable of that flaws
valachi
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16/12/2012 11:09:00

I don't like what I am seeing at all, common moses shoot like u av missiles in ur legs!!!
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 11:10:00

Nice moses
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 11:10:00

Oh no Torres! No power behind that shot after such a glorious first touch.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 11:10:00

Moses is our best player so far on the pitch.
valachi
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16/12/2012 11:10:00

We have to pray we score first because if this corinthians side scores against us i think they will make our Barca stand at the Nou camp look like Childs play and i dont think we will be able to break through with all 10 of their outfield players behind the ball. As i am writing this Torres just missed a chance he should have buried.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 11:11:00

Moses! Oh this corinthians goalie is good. Rafa said it.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 11:11:00

Lol valachi.
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 11:11:00

I said it that if mata has a off game then it will be difficult for us to win, let's pray for mata to improve and we'll be okay
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 11:13:00

Moses has looked good..this is the sort of game where i think having two speedy wingers would have been beneficial. I wonder if rafa would give Marin a run later in this game if the deadlock continues.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 11:15:00

We really need to take this chance. I fear the worst if this guys go ahead b4 us.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 11:15:00

no yellow card for pickin up the ball and wandering round with it???
Clingy
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16/12/2012 11:15:00

Seriously,LUIZ is making sense
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 11:16:00

who is this human saying moses is our best player so far.....
Latunvic
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16/12/2012 11:16:00

the game have been balance so far with chelsea having the best chance to score
Tosco
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16/12/2012 11:17:00

These Corinthians guys are bullies..they actually remind me of how we used to play..i just pray one of our critical players dont end with a significant injury..i wonder, has this cup world cup ever been decided by penalty shoot out because this may come to that at the rate this is going.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 11:18:00

Rafa should change something in the 2nd half, something is wrong from moses's wing, apart from that shot, I am not happy with his play so far, I hope moses, mata and lamps can improve, to win this game, we need to play like we need this trophy, we are playing without passion, I think we need to remove moses in the 2nd half and bring in oscar so there will be balance in the midfield and return hazard to the left wing
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 11:18:00

Can't believe so many dicks here are saying that Lampard was ineffective.Which game are you watching?He has been suppyling balls after balls,only for Torres to waste.Get a life,you haters.
cfc250
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16/12/2012 11:22:00

@Latunvic i said so.have any problem with that?
valachi
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16/12/2012 11:22:00

I fear for the worst in this match. though am optimistic
jayb
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16/12/2012 11:25:00

Supplying ball from where to where dude? All the supplies you claimed went straight to the opponent players.
valachi
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16/12/2012 11:25:00

cfc250 you need glasses!
unclezillion
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16/12/2012 11:26:00

only midfield correction
mikacfc
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16/12/2012 11:26:00

unclezzion.You are watching through your anus.You need eyes.
cfc250
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16/12/2012 11:27:00

Half time it is! Cassio the man of the first half of the match,imo. We should come out strong in the second half. Am sorry to say this but one half of the pivot is non-existent. Luiz has oozed class so far and Ramires has been one hell of a workaholic. Hazard,Moses and Torres should be more clinical in front of goal. We need to inject more pace and power in the second half and hopefully we'll score and draw them out. I wont watch it if it enters shoot out. So kill it off guys,will u?
Ohans
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16/12/2012 11:27:00

Giue us this day God
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 11:28:00

Let's hope for a Moses Oscar sub. Sorry to say but I think Moses has been very poor so far. Saying that, Mata has hardly been making an impact either. Here we go!!
Bizarre_Blue
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16/12/2012 11:29:00

Ohans.Don't worry about the shoot-out.We have a superman in the goal.
cfc250
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16/12/2012 11:31:00

This game is a confirmation of my worst fears about our team. We need v good out and out wingers on teams that seat deep and look to hit us on counters.torres is very ineffective as a CF and he hold the ball sufficiently enough to bring others into the game. How I miss drogba and anelka. The selection of Lampard ahead of mikel is astute and very intelligent. To play some direct balls over the Corithinians midfield. Pray we score first cos if the Corithinians ever get the first goal, we will be in deep *****.
Dwonder
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16/12/2012 11:32:00

lol! lamp has actually not done bad with supplies, i can count at least 3 good passes he gave to Torres, my only issue with him is his defensive play so far...
Latunvic
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16/12/2012 11:33:00

I wish there would be more objectivity here..there are people saying Moses has been poor..can these people say that Mata, Hazard and even Torres have been any better? frankly Moses has looked the most threatening of our front line and has looked the most willing to match the Corinthians players physically..let us just be objective rather than commenting based on personal favorites.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 11:35:00

Haha Ash nodded away Ramires on that thrown in when he was wide open. Shows his confidence in the lad.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 11:36:00

A balanced first half that started poorly for both sides. We have failed to control the midfield. However we must not concede first. If we concede first that its as good as game over because corinthians would defend with their lives and they are very good at that.
Chelz Akamz
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16/12/2012 11:36:00

Mata has been choked up and so has been our play. Come on guys!
Ohans
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16/12/2012 11:38:00

Would like to see Cech not bomb it up everytime he gets a gk. Seriously, wtf, just puts us back under pressure because we nearly always lose the header.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 11:39:00

When u say a player have been poor, pls say that without being biased, u should criticize the whole squad and not nitpick
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 11:40:00

And lampard will never get any deserved criticism from the same blokes
valachi
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16/12/2012 11:43:00

Goodness, Hazard needed to put that away...i tell you guys..come January we better go and get us true strikers. Our lack of that has hindered us badly in this game.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 11:43:00

Cassio is surely currently the man of the match, torres what the feck are u doing at the offside trap all day, u trying to build a shack there?
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 11:43:00

Torres! You hesitate too much. Why? Shoot the ball,fecking shoot!
Ohans
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16/12/2012 11:45:00

@GabeU yes I say that Moses has been poor in the first half. So was Mata. Torres not as bad but still not great. I thought Luiz was our best player and Hazard is doing well. Please to say since second half Moses has been better but we've gone to sleep in defense! We need something else on the pitch. Some extra spark. Lampard for Oscar is the likely sub, but Lampard has actually been quite good today. His passing has been great but still no sign of him in defensive duties (hazard of all people seems to be taking those)
Bizarre_Blue
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16/12/2012 11:45:00

Rafa sub..and now.
valachi
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16/12/2012 11:46:00

Okay Rafa..time for a change..we need to bring Oscar into this game.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 11:46:00

torres or torees what are u doing?
the_blues
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16/12/2012 11:46:00

torres or torees what are u doing?
the_blues
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16/12/2012 11:47:00

Gabeu, oscar for who? Moses perhaps? Or lamps? My choice is moses, so we'll have more chances in front of goal
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 11:50:00

Are we parking the fecking bus or are my watching vs barca?
Ohans
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16/12/2012 11:51:00

@Bizarre_Blue i do agree with you that David Luiz has thus far been our man of the match but i dont think Hazard has had a great match..either him or mata need to be subbed for Oscar just to give us a different look.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 11:51:00

So we're under siege now right?
valachi
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16/12/2012 11:51:00

Create more I mean*
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 11:51:00

rafa make a **** i n g sub now you fat ****
Clingy
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16/12/2012 11:52:00

This team is awful.
KAKUfrank
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16/12/2012 11:53:00

Ashley Cole does not deserve 2 years contract. Give him 1 year if he doesn't like it let him leave
blueblood4life
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16/12/2012 11:54:00

I'm not watchin the match but cant believe we're still playin goalless wit corint....wtf
prince china
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16/12/2012 11:54:00

we dont look good with this mid....
denverblue
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16/12/2012 11:55:00

@Desmond i would not take lamps of for oscar because i think we will suffer more in the midfield especially defensively..i also would not remove Moses because right now he gives us our best option for width.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 11:55:00

Rafa we need oscar in this game before I lost my mind!!! What the eff are we playing??
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 11:55:00

Lmaooooo @ Torres. What was that?
KAKUfrank
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16/12/2012 11:55:00

You can't make a sub when we're under so much pressure. It'll unbalance the team for a brief moment and we could end up conceding. Some serious changes: Cahill for Aspi moving Ivan to CB. Mata for Oscar and Lampard for Mikel.
Bizarre_Blue
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16/12/2012 11:55:00

Mr Benitez,pls make ur subs in the name of God.
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 11:55:00

hmm im not feeling confident now. why no subs? do you guys think this is working? i reckon we need to mix it up a bit
Clingy
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16/12/2012 11:56:00

Mr Benitez,pls make ur subs in the name of God.
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 11:56:00

Mr Benitez,pls make ur subs in the name of God.
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 11:56:00

Hey for those who dont see Mikel's importance, his absence is one of the reason we are slacking in the middle man....
TheIncrediblue
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16/12/2012 11:57:00

I saw it coming
valachi
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16/12/2012 11:57:00

Damn. Long way back now.....
Bizarre_Blue
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16/12/2012 11:57:00

They have been the better side in this half. I don't know about you but i think Lamps' lack of defensive support is piling the pressure on us. And against a decent side,Torres remains crap.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 11:57:00

omfg
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 11:57:00

yeah thats game over. gg
Clingy
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16/12/2012 11:57:00

Lampard is useless. Him and Ivanovic should go. Benitez is an idiot for picking them.
foreign_viewer
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16/12/2012 11:57:00

And they scored!! We won't even score if that tactical coach did not make a sub right now, that tactical coach didn't do anything in the half time pep talk and a greenhorn knows we need oscar in this team, now he is going to bring the little boy on with big pressure on him
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 11:58:00

In #BeneathUsWeTrust
KAKUfrank
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16/12/2012 11:58:00

We have conceded and guys i think that is the end of that..i dont see us scoring against this side..if this makes us go out in January to get Falcao and one more striker then there was a purpose served.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 11:58:00

Lampard lampard lampard, the most useless so far.
EliteBlue
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16/12/2012 11:58:00

rami- lamps middle dont work,,, mikel - lamps dont work.... simple start with luiz inthe middle... he is the best we gor right now ...
denverblue
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16/12/2012 11:58:00

so... Zero trophies out of a possible eight. Has to be a record. CAN NOT BELIEVE Rafa has kept so many under performers on the pitch for this long.
Puttinuttan
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16/12/2012 11:58:00

Its worrying that we can see the pace and work rate that Chelsea try to bring to match, only to lose the ball and get beat by simple slide rule passes.
rslack
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16/12/2012 11:58:00

well missus is home in 20 mins off to do some tidying lol. what a shambles
Clingy
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16/12/2012 11:58:00

All of a sudden the goal has opened rafa's eye to see the reality
valachi
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16/12/2012 11:59:00

It's been coming
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 11:59:00

every game we play badly in .. i lose the middle of the park battle.. simple
denverblue
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16/12/2012 11:59:00

A team we beat 3:1, scored 2 unreply goals to a team that conrithia manage to beat 1:0 in their 3rd place match, we're still playin goalless
prince china
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16/12/2012 11:59:00

No sense of urgency. C'mon Oscar..
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 12:00:00

GET LAMPARD OUT THE GAME
blueblood4life
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16/12/2012 12:00:00

Making the sub late. God is this tears in my eyes? And can luiz please keep it cool?
Ohans
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16/12/2012 12:00:00

why has rafa waited to sucking late....??
denverblue
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16/12/2012 12:01:00

What's the point of Falcao with a non-existent midfield? BeneathUs is a clown. Benched Mikel to achieve what? Nada. They will core again and nail our coffins finally.
KAKUfrank
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16/12/2012 12:01:00

Every time Lampard plays we lose control of the midfield. Every time. This man Benitez has to go if he plays in to Chelsea player politics.
foreign_viewer
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16/12/2012 12:01:00

Lampard should retire and Torres should leave for good. Enough said.
Strapping Blue
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16/12/2012 12:02:00

*Sorry we're one goal down
prince china
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16/12/2012 12:02:00

I don't have a coaching license, neither do fans in here, but we all knew something is wrong with today's setup and the coach is the culprit, I hope for oue sakes as fans that we'll win, I'll be mortaly miffed if we waste our time to that place only to go on a effing tour
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 12:02:00

Three men ran to line to cover for Cech, but nobody bothered to try to win the header. Had another tried to play Guerrero or the ball we might still be goalless.
rslack
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16/12/2012 12:02:00

We tend to lose control of the midfield regardless of Lampard's playing time.
rslack
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16/12/2012 12:03:00

Play lampard and we crumble... This is so pathetic
blueblood4life
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16/12/2012 12:03:00

Lampoons @ Clingy.
KAKUfrank
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16/12/2012 12:04:00

ffs we can't even string TWO passes together
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 12:04:00

what?
the_blues
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16/12/2012 12:04:00

Lampard is doing practically nothing in this midfield.
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 12:04:00

Mata hasent been good today.
Lakupiippu
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16/12/2012 12:05:00

Lampard, Ivanovic and Torres are awful. Why would you break up a winning combination.
foreign_viewer
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16/12/2012 12:05:00

Our middle pack is gaping like the grand canyun.. and we need a player who can control the pace and tempo of this game... we are getting bossed and we are losing every pass..
TheIncrediblue
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16/12/2012 12:05:00

blueblood4life Then we shoulld also get Mata and Torres of the game to, since those 2 have done nothing
Lakupiippu
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16/12/2012 12:06:00

Benitez thinks he can reap where he does not sow...he got away wit inter but i dnt tink that 'll be the case here today. Dont knw if to be happy or sad right now...
prince china
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16/12/2012 12:06:00

the sad thing is that it now looks like our boys heads are down..the corinthians players are confident and we dont seem to have any fightback..We have been out muscled and out hustled here today.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 12:06:00

This is pathetic.And RB is just sitting on his a$$ talking to himself.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 12:07:00

That is what happens when you force someone into a lineup that is doing well. mainly when the person does not deserve it at all. Lampard worshipers there you are
EliteBlue
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16/12/2012 12:07:00

GabeU And thats what happends when some fans wants to replace players like Ballack, essien, Dorgba with small players like Hazard, oscar and mata.
Lakupiippu
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16/12/2012 12:08:00

Lampard has to go and play with Malouda. He is not good enough for Chelsea.
foreign_viewer
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16/12/2012 12:08:00

Good job Lampard knows he is loved and appreciated by the local fans, the REAL fans who go to the Bridge week in, week out. Thankfully he'll never hear the hate of you "fans"
CalculatedKalou
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16/12/2012 12:09:00

That's the pass lampard gives lately
valachi
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16/12/2012 12:09:00

Other than Luiz and Ramires i dont see any other players on our squad who have matched the physical intensity of the Corinthian players. It is clear as day now that not starting Mikel was a mistake by Rafa.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 12:09:00

Hope u all see mata aint in this game at ll, I am unhappy with rafa for this, really unhappy
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 12:09:00

cause they wants more ballposession
Lakupiippu
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16/12/2012 12:10:00

it looks like people are afraid to take off lamps!?? WTF
denverblue
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16/12/2012 12:11:00

Is it a coincidence that we're losin all the cup matches lampard hav played THESE SEASON.
prince china
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16/12/2012 12:11:00

come out now, you lampard A** li****. when are you going to notice that he is no longer a chelsea material....
EliteBlue
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16/12/2012 12:12:00

Ivanovic you are rubbish.
foreign_viewer
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16/12/2012 12:12:00

Lampard and Ramires poor, poor, poor.. Now you see why Mikel is vital.
faara23
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16/12/2012 12:12:00

i dont think we can pinpoint the problems on lampard. 90% of the team have been woeful today. we should of made earlier subs and changed fornation too predictable. lampard has maxe some killer passes. not his fault the donkey on the end of em cant score
Clingy
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16/12/2012 12:12:00

Azpi for Lamps would have made more sense. So that luiz can go mid.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 12:13:00

CalculatedKalou. Agree, I remember a game at the begining of the season when Rdm sub Lampard on and everyone on here got mad at Rdm for doing it but everyone at the bridge singed Super Frankie Lampard.
Lakupiippu
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16/12/2012 12:14:00

I haven't read any of the comments yet but I'm guessing most idiots are blaming lampard for this loss
Ess...DaBison
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16/12/2012 12:14:00

I haven't read any of the comments yet but I'm guessing most idiots are blaming lampard for this loss
Ess...DaBison
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16/12/2012 12:14:00

REAL fans? So not being able to go to the bridge qualifies oneself as not being a REAL fan? You're an idiot.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 12:14:00

Do you all see why we would need another striker .. That should have been a goal but Poorress
TheIncrediblue
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16/12/2012 12:15:00

Torres misses another seater! We are doomed. Get this lad out of the club.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 12:15:00

So the dude plays the entire game !!! LOL Must be player politics because that team could never have won this match..Leadership from a slow moving, poor passing old gangsta who only wants to score..
had2bg
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16/12/2012 12:15:00

El Nino just missed another sitter..i told you guys who said he was back after goals against mediocre competition..any world class striker puts that away..there was our chance to equalize and he blew it.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 12:15:00

waouuuu what is this sub...... marin for torres while u r looking for a goal and have a useless player on the pitch
EliteBlue
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16/12/2012 12:15:00

Do you ever see fans who go to the Bridge - the REAL fans of Chelsea, giving him all this ***** ? No, sums up you "fans" hope your proud of yourselves, bet you all think Chelsea was founded in 2003...
CalculatedKalou
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16/12/2012 12:16:00

Lampard aint the culprit, mata is the flop of the match, he didn't play anything at all
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 12:16:00

Torres misses another seater! We are doomed. Get this lad out of the club.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 12:16:00

Just saying yh he has been awful but equally so has hazard, mata, Moses, Torres.... Even if lamps wasn't playing there was no way we would win this game either.
Ess...DaBison
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16/12/2012 12:17:00

Just saying yh he has been awful but equally so has hazard, mata, Moses, Torres.... Even if lamps wasn't playing there was no way we would win this game either.
Ess...DaBison
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16/12/2012 12:17:00

Sell Torres I've had enough
blueblood4life
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16/12/2012 12:18:00

Wonder if you'd be such a badass in person as you seem to be on here.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 12:19:00

Yikes..what did the ref give Cahill a red for..this is ridiculous..come on ..do the refs always have to kick us even when we are down?
GabeU
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16/12/2012 12:19:00

You can cleary see many people on here Hates Lampard more then they like Chelsea. And the only reson the hate him is cause they think Avb got sack cause of him
Lakupiippu
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16/12/2012 12:19:00

Offside goal..nothing..absolutely nothing is going our way now.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 12:21:00

Another trophy lost
Ess...DaBison
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16/12/2012 12:22:00

3/3 trophies down
CalculatedKalou
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16/12/2012 12:23:00

None of the players is at fault, the coach is the culprit in my opinion, he should have done better with the sub and the players that started this game, rafa u are to blame
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 12:23:00

RDM is an imbecile.
KAKUfrank
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16/12/2012 12:23:00

Well guys i am off..we have succesfully fluffed another title. frankly in retrospect we shouldnt even have come for this tournament. This loss will do serious damage to the confidence of our boys.
GabeU
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16/12/2012 12:23:00

football?
the_blues
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16/12/2012 12:24:00

Still baffled why RB would change up the lineup from what we saw against Monterrey. Complete muppet.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 12:24:00

Lakupilipu we hate people who don;t try and live on what they used to do , not what they do now!
unclezillion
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16/12/2012 12:24:00

Torres finished. Time to cut our loses.
faara23
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16/12/2012 12:24:00

If you want to blame, then blame Roman Abramovic. He is ruining this club for this moron called Torres. Torres is a curse on this club. And we wont win anything this season. Karma for the way the club has treated RDM.
Keyser Soze
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16/12/2012 12:24:00

how on earth did torres miss that
Tosco
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16/12/2012 12:24:00

Did anyone see why Cahill got a straight red?
rslack
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16/12/2012 12:25:00

Lampard, Ivanovic, Malouda, Hilario, Ferreira and Turnbull are not good enough for Chelsea. Cech has lost it as well$
foreign_viewer
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16/12/2012 12:25:00

stop screaming
the_blues
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16/12/2012 12:25:00

I'd love to see @mq try and defend rafa from this performance.
Ess...DaBison
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16/12/2012 12:26:00

Thank you Legend Lampard.your time is up there.you can now ***** off to QPR.Thank you benitez for starting him.i hope you wont last the season. Thank you our clueless board
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 12:26:00

RDM is clueless
KAKUfrank
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16/12/2012 12:26:00

Wow Frank Lampard looks completely GUTTED!!!
Slippy G-19
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16/12/2012 12:27:00

Rafa lost this for us. Cmon lampard???? Whilst you have a winning team. This will shatter the players confidence
blueblood4life
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16/12/2012 12:27:00

no
unclezillion
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16/12/2012 12:27:00

Torres costs us another trophy yet again. SELL HIM I'VE HAD ENOUGH
The Psychic Blue l9l
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16/12/2012 12:27:00

okay here we go
the_blues
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16/12/2012 12:28:00

I'm beginning to think Lamps has done something personal to you all or something the way you talk about him he must have shagged your missus.
CalculatedKalou
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16/12/2012 12:28:00

Lamp have really justify his contract extension pls give him 5yrs contract extension... d game was so slow on build up..Rafa shld have select the right team not on sentiment well....as for Torres when it matter most u don't do it..i've moved on cos i knew if Rafa goes for sentiment we will loose and we did
bluebroda
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16/12/2012 12:29:00

Atleast that young man didnt play otherwise he would being the reason we lost and all would be giving him the stick...
TheIncrediblue
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16/12/2012 12:29:00

i think benitez n torres r on a secret mission to destroy chelsea!!!
peacockblue
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16/12/2012 12:29:00

wow check Luiz sobbing
Slippy G-19
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16/12/2012 12:30:00

Some of you have the memory of goldfishes..
CalculatedKalou
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16/12/2012 12:30:00

I won't blame torres in this game, I'll blame the man who tweaked a winning team in a cup final, he obviously played lampard to gain more support from the fans and it backfired, he should have played him in the 2nd half if that was the motive, he shouldn't have benched oscar in this game, neither did he have to start lamps (though lamps is not to blame) but u don't bring a match rusty veteran straight into the starting lineup, we need 2 new strikers and a DM in january
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 12:30:00

Luiz is crying.OMG
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 12:30:00

This was utterly shambolic
Nobleonenoble
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16/12/2012 12:30:00

Not to worry.Even Barca and Liverpool lost it in 2006 and 2005 respectively.
cfc250
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16/12/2012 12:30:00

Lampard was a shadow in the whole of the second half...WOW I can't believe we choked! Big time. And Torres what a useless player
blueblood4life
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16/12/2012 12:31:00

Its a shame....against a very ordinarily team. I hope Mr chelsea Lampard is happy now. He goes to the press and he starts a match, a final for that matter when he is not fully fit. This defeat is on him, torres and rafa.
Chelz Akamz
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16/12/2012 12:31:00

@Desmondadonis... add a new manager to dat list
peacockblue
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16/12/2012 12:31:00

I wont blame mata today.when ur pivot isn't playing well,then mata becomes *****
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 12:33:00

I'm so fecking tired of hearing about confidence this confidence that. We talk like they are fragile human beings. They're f****ng professionals paid a *****e load of money to play a sport they love and shouldn't a need a gentle hand on the shoulder every time the chips are down. Failure should make you stronger not weaker. If they're that fragile get them the hell out of here.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 12:33:00

I am not gonna say this is what happens when you don't play Mikel. Too bad. Would have been really nice had they won it, but I am pretty sure they know all of that themselves.
zg2000fs
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16/12/2012 12:33:00

Will Benitez last till January?
Keyser Soze
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16/12/2012 12:34:00

Everyone is to busy blaming lampard... No one is saying how bad the 3 behind the striker were. Hazard was poor do was Moses and surprisingly so was mata but no one wouldn't dare to say something about them because they are on the right side of the 20s
Ess...DaBison
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16/12/2012 12:34:00

We lost because we failed to utilize our chances, Torres is a pain....
Latunvic
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16/12/2012 12:36:00

so after every interview the dude starts the next possible available match right?
valachi
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16/12/2012 12:37:00

The minute I saw the teamsheet I knew we were going to struggle why oh why did he change a winning team? Where was this so called leadership we were missing from Lampard? Virtually invisible in the second half. Should have gone of in the 60th minute looked tired.
Anarchy
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16/12/2012 12:38:00

No excuse for this performance whatsoever. Hair dryer treatment should be in full effect which it most likely isn't because RB is A) a clown B) interim and C) not Guus. The next captain of Chelsea should be the man who does't hold his head down after this performance but rallies the lads.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 12:39:00

how can torres miss a chance lyk dat... well to b honest i did not expect him 2 score... wen he got d ball
peacockblue
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16/12/2012 12:39:00

ramires, lampard,mata and torres cause us this match
Tosco
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16/12/2012 12:39:00

Benitez unbalanced the whole team just so Lampard can lift the trophy. PATHETIC. Get rid of both of them.
superman93
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16/12/2012 12:39:00

Boy the more i think about it the more painful this is becoming;;we are the defensing champions of Europe but got beat in the community Shield, got shell lacked in the Uefa Club cup, and now got beat in the world club cup..not good..we have missed 3 out of 3 chances for relatively easy trophies and given ample ammunition to those who say our Munich win was a one time piece of luck and nothing more..this hurts more than i thought it would..Oh well...
GabeU
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16/12/2012 12:40:00

I only blame the coach for not making the right subs at the right time. As for the starting line up,if playing a donkey is what a coach needs to do to save his job, why not? Afterall,there has been the infamous romance with the media lately. He needed to appease the gods for his dear job.
Ohans
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16/12/2012 12:42:00

This team still needs a real striker, a heavy weight midfielder ie evertons fellani and an explosive old fashioned winger. I'm really getting bored of talking about how crap Torres is.
Nobleonenoble
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16/12/2012 12:43:00

well... given our display... even i m thinking munich was a 1 time luck
peacockblue
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16/12/2012 12:43:00

Frank looked disinterested the whole damn game as everyone else did bar Rammy, Luiz, Ash & of course Cech. I love Frank to death but ffs man you're the captain of Chelsea Football Club right now. BARK and YELL instructions mate. Don't look like you're on a Sunday stroll on the beach. Wonder if his contract situation had anything to do with the apathy he showed today.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 12:44:00

Ivanovic score goals but he doesn't defend, doesn't attack.
foreign_viewer
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16/12/2012 12:47:00

Guys, Lamp was better than Moses, Torres, Ramires and even Mata in this match. I'm not a Lampard fan but he is not to receive the blame for the loss. Torres and Moses where doing rubbish upfront when they should have scored... I think Rafa should receive part of the blame cos he should have made subs early enough... Moses should have been substituted in early 2nd half...
Latunvic
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16/12/2012 12:49:00

Our season is over
obimikelisdbest
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16/12/2012 12:50:00

Munich wasn't luck, it was karma after being shat on by UEFA in that 2009 semi against you know who. Ok maybe a little luck.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 12:50:00

This team team sti needs a real striker , a heavy weight midfielder ie evertons fellani and an old fashioned explosive winger. I'm bored of talking about how crap Torres is;(
Nobleonenoble
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16/12/2012 12:51:00

We don't need a Fellaini. We need a Pirlo type of player.
foreign_viewer
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16/12/2012 12:51:00

I also think we should have moved Luiz to DM, pull out one of Lamp and Ramires, bring in Azpi and sub Moses for Oscar, Rafa waited too long......
Latunvic
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16/12/2012 12:52:00

Lampard was running around doing nothing.
foreign_viewer
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16/12/2012 12:52:00

Rafa SHOULD receive all the blame. He's the manager unto whose head the axe falls. If someone is performing poorly it's his responsibility to sub him. Christ, @obimiklisdbest chin up m8.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 12:53:00

I can remember now that when robbie was sacked, i told fellas that we wont win this CWC trophy. Robbie got us there, he deserved that chance to take us to japan. He deserved the benefit of atleast staying till now, he started the season well. His sacking showed that roman never wanted him. This is karma for chelsea.
Chelz Akamz
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16/12/2012 12:54:00

FV.Lampard was better than Hazard,Mata,Moses and Torres.
cfc250
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16/12/2012 12:54:00

@Desmond...my friend'll disagree just this once....Lampard was responsible for the loss...although I cant him...its tubby who disrespected our best DM in Mikel...and glory hunted for the ''legend'' Mr.Lampard for whatever reason. Desmond 'll state my reasons out in black and white. 1. Lamard gave a total of three passes long and good passes in 90minutes, lost the ball five times in vital areas, had a near zero contribution defensively because 95% of the time he was ahead of Ramires i guess looking for glory of scoring. 2. Playing a double pivot of Rammy and Lampard with Lampard further ahead most times ( i dont know if that was tubby's instructions or Lamps doing a legend stuff) meant Ramires dint burst forward through out the match...so lampard did nothing defensively and Ramires near nothing on the offensive...I cant blame ramires...he did what was best for the team as he had to watch his back and hence the team's back. 3. when was the last time chelsea Huffed the ball?...honestly i cant remember..i am now used to us us playing with the ball on the ground looking for those passes..How do we keep the ball on the floor? because players in the double pivot always made themselves available for the pass...to start an attack. today was huffing galore because lampard was always further forward..and one of rammy's strengths is not distribution..i am sure you know what i mean, Iam sure you saw on tv how our center backs continously called on the double pivot players to come collect the pass. 4. A double pivot of Mikel-Rammy was perfect for this match with the legend in later in the game to bring a calming influence like he has done in the last two matches...but tubby messed it up. 5. Until we buy a DM with a different characteristic to Mikel, he remains our best DM, and Tuby's reluctance to play him will kill the team especially if he is playing the legend in his place 6. All the passes Lamps gave today, Mikel does just that (anyone who wants to argue with me should please be objective). Defensively, Mikel does 150% more than the legend, so what exactly is the reason for benching the young lad since he is even suspended against leeds...i mean bizarre stuff 7. Lamaprd will not be offered a new contract...he will move on..no disrespect to him in any way, he has given so much to the club over the last decade...but truth is our overall shape is better off without him than when he is on the pitch...he impedes our creative players (especially Mata and Ramires) because he never stays in the pivot where he belongs. Until we sign a DM that is faster than Mikel in terms ot taught...he remains our best DM( with the injury to Romeu who could have really challenged Mikel) and just play the boy and stop disrespecting the poor boy.... 7. What a match to bring on Marin...it was so obvious tubby dint wanta to swallow his pride and do the right thing which was bring on Mikel for Lampard so that Ramires could attack....in the semi-finals when we were 3 goals up tubby, dint bring on marin and today in a very important match...he brought in Marin..who was not match fit...for tuby, old habits never die..... 8. I dont want to talk about ft9 because there is nothing more to say...adn why am I bothered..m sure tuby will be gone end of season in the name of God the father, sone and the holy spirit..
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16/12/2012 12:57:00

@Lat spot on. Lamps should have been off no later than the 65th minute perhaps even nlt than the 60th. Marin on at what was it, 88th minute. wtf is that?
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 12:57:00

We need a mf who can control possession, the tempo, be confident with the ball. But everyone knows this yet the board does *****e about it.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 13:00:00

Some people here are funny! What has karma and RDM deserving to bring us to CWC got to do with we not playing well and not converting our chances.... Maybe u should tell us every other trophy we wont win this season so we can know u as a soothsayer! Fans can be pathetic.... "Karma for Chelsea" lol! Maybe we shouldn't compete for any other trophy then since we now know "Karma is on Chelsea"....
Latunvic
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16/12/2012 13:05:00

Way I see it he selected FL bc of one or two reasons. 1) Influence or 2) To show RA and everyone else that Frank IS really past it and therefore needs to take a backseat or move on if he won't accept that role (a poor performance would be viewed as collateral for contractual negotiations maybe..? Idfk..). No other reason(s) make any logical sense. He came off an injury and this was his first full 90. A match of this magnitude hardly warrants giving him such minutes.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 13:07:00

This is what happens when you decide to change a winning team all of a sudden, especially with inexperienced replacements. Impotant competitions and we release all our xperienced players, even sold some....gawd. Blame all our troubles this season on Torres though. A bad strikers has a way of polluting the whole lot. Feck all of you that rate Hazard low, the lad has been working his ass off, and there is no way you would expect much attack from a guy who has been forced to change his game and learn to defend. M question is,what do we do when Mata dont play well????
elemzy
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16/12/2012 13:10:00

Chins up, could always be worse. How we come out against Leeds will say a lot about the spirit within the dressing room. Hope we run them the feck over.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 13:14:00

aka crap
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 13:15:00

Easy. We play like Tottenham on a good day.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 13:15:00

Latunvic, it is karma only. Read more into it.
Keyser Soze
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16/12/2012 13:17:00

lampard wasnt better than mata or hazard. Lampards movement isnt matching with rest of the team yet, a few times i hav seen today he was obstructing the movements of front 3. But worst was moses didnt make a single cross and few times he receivd ball in his position he couldnt do anything.
post_rom
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16/12/2012 13:25:00

I honestly do not know why Marin wasn't given a proper go in Japan. Anybody have any information as to why that might be? To fly all the way there and be given 5-6 minutes would ***** me right off especially in the first game after it was sewn up shortly after the break.
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 13:29:00

fk off legend worshipers.lampard moses iva r not chelsea material.dont blame benitez,blame the overated english players who are there by law.
mzee69
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16/12/2012 13:32:00

fk off legend worshipers.lampard moses iva r not chelsea material.dont blame benitez,blame the overated english players who are there by law.
mzee69
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16/12/2012 13:32:00

I am not a legend worshiper by any means - whatever is good for the club is good for me but it is silly to say Rafa doesn't deserve all of the blame. Who's decision is it to select the team? Who's decision is it to switch tactics and make intelligent substations? Who spent more time on his a$$ talking to himself then actively figuring out a way not to get PLAYED OFF THE PITCH?
ForeverChels
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16/12/2012 13:49:00

@layorh, I agree with all u stated, but with all ur well mapped out points which shows u understand the game, u forgot one thing and that is rafa starting and changing the winning team, if he had played david luiz and ramires or ramires and mikel in the pivot, (i.e not changing the teams momentum) we'll have played better in this game, I said it in the sunderland game that its a perfect time to introduce marin in our team in the 61st minute and we'll know what he can do by now, everytime he introduced this lad under pressure, so that is were the problem lies, his team selection
Desmondadonis
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16/12/2012 13:53:00

Am so sad,ma day has been ruined,cant even concentrate on anything...am filled with anger,why the feck did rafa change a winning team??..as 4 torres,i ran out superlative to describe him..3cups and we lost them all,its really appalling.i just hope i can sleep tonight
Ken4CFC
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16/12/2012 14:50:00

The boys looked so shattered. More so than they looked when we lost against alteletico. The blame for this state of affairs rest squarely on Roman. He brought in rafa who has succeded in breaking the team, paticularly our mazacar engine room. Now the team plays more direct football to favour roman's adopted son who is so inept and useless Liverpool should be taken go a court of law for defrauding chelsea. Oscar especially looked very sad and I heard that liuz was sobbing. Congratulations roman, you and ur yes boys throughly deserve a bloody hug for turning around the fortunes of our dear club so quickly Again. N.B. Thanks Kaku for reminding me that ( RDM is an imbecile ). The king Solomon at the helm now is performing miracles. Truly,d only thing common btwn wealth and wisdom is the the letter "W".
Dwonder
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16/12/2012 21:14:00

wow...gr8 leadership from Lampard. Rafa used this game to show us 2 things 1. Lamps, Terry wont make any difference with their leadership (Lamps is proved, Terry's will be proved once he is fit) 2. We need some striker signing in Jan. Torres will score but not when we required desperately.
Blu_run
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