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Corinthians 1 Chelsea 0

In Yokohoma City, Chelsea failed in their attempt to become the FIFA World Club Champions losing by a solitary goal.

Team News - Rafa Benitez, for this prestigious final, slightly shuffled his pack with regards to those who started the semi-final against Monterrey. David Luiz moved back into the heart of the defence, alongside Gary Cahill, Branislav Ivanovic moved to right back, Ramires returned to the side and Frank Lampard was also given a start ahead of Oscar and Victor Moses also came into the side.

First Half - After a 'Moment of Hope` for the victims of the Conneticut massacre it was Chelsea who got the action underway. The early exchanges were cagey with Chelsea grateful that Ramires and Hazard got in good ball-winning interceptions to deny Corinthians scoring opportunities.

Chelsea, in the 10th minute, had a great chance to take the lead when, following a corner, Cahill saw his shot somehow stopped on the line by the keeper, Cassio. Ramires, with the referee being very lenient, was lucky not to see a yellow card for one unruly tackle.

As the game started to open up, Mata saw a chip towards Torres just evade the striker before Mata gave the ball away in a dangerous situation but Luiz was on hand to usher Emerson away from danger. Corinthians were happy to pepper Cech from range but nothing untoward was happening to give Cech cause for concern.

Bursting forward, Hazard was fouled on the edge of his area but Luiz drove his free kick into the wall. Cahill survived a penalty claim before a slip from Cahill saw Guerrero blast over. Hazard then produced the best ball of the half but Moses couldn`t quite do enough to get a decent shot of before a shot from Cole drifted wide.

A fine ball from Lampard saw Torres control it first time, inside the penalty area, but although the Spaniard got a shot off Cassio, in the Corinthians goal, had read the situation well and raced out to intercept the shot.

As half time approached Moses saw a curling effort well saved by Cassio before the keeper did well to claim a fierce volley from Mata, from outside the box.

Second Half - Corinthians got the action restarted but it was Chelsea who had the first effort when Lampard saw a shot blocked after a decent build-up. Mata, as Chelsea pushed forward, delivered a great defence splitting ball to Mata but Cassio rushed out to thwart the Belgian.

Corinthians responded with a shot from Emerson that was blocked by Cahill. The referee finally produced a yellow card, for Henrique, after a trip on Mata before our opponents forced a couple off corners that came to nothing. The pressure continued and Paulinho drove a fierce shot wide.

With sixty-nine minutes on the clock, Chelsea fell behind when Cahill got a partial block on a shot but it looped up and despite the presence of three defenders on the line Guerrero managed to guide hi header into the roof of the net.

Benitez responded by introducing Oscar for Moses and seconds later Torres saw a weak header drift wide. With eight minutes of normal time left Benitez made a second change bringing on Azpilicueta for Ivanovic. The young Spanish full back was to make an immediate impact with a long throw that was flicked on and Torres, when the ball fell at his feet a couple off yards out, fired his shot straight at Cassio.

With three minutes of normal time, Marin came on for Hazard but Chelsea were reduced to ten me when Cahill was shown a straight red card. Four minutes of stoppage time were announced and Chelsea thought they had grabbed that equaliser when Torres headed home but the flaw a sup for offside and the dream of being club champions of the world was over.

Chelsea - Cech; Ivanovic (Azpilicueta-82), Cahill, Luiz, Cole; Ramires, Lampard; Moses (Oscar-72), Mata, Hazard (Marin-89), Torres

Unused Subs - Turnbull, Hilario, Ferreira, Bertrand, Saville, Mikel, Piazon

Chelsea Scorers - Nil

Chelsea Yellow Cards - Luiz

Chelsea Red Cards - Cahill




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Date:Sunday December 16 2012

Time: 12:33PM

Your Comments

We gave it away
Dixons-Betting-Slip
Lampard is very useless in a chelsea shirt
chuks09
chuks09, but not as useless as Torres. Torres is the worst thing this club can have.
Keyser Soze
Benitez unbalanced the whole team just so Lampard can lift the trophy. PATHETIC. Get rid of both of them.
superman93
Lampard will get a lot of the blame like he always does but hazard, Moses, Torres and even Mata were not much better
Ess...DaBison
We would have won with the semi final lineup.
superman93
Lampard will get a lot of the blame like he always does but hazard, Moses, Torres and even Mata were not much better
Ess...DaBison
its rebuilding
the_blues
I just hope this ineffective 'legend' would not wear the shirt anymore.
LeyemovicH
pivot we cant retain possession and then mata, hazard,oscar,etc cant get into the game but still people want Lampard in the team. He should be shown the door.
superman93
Luiz crying is making me cry! Feck!!!
Krested Kal-el
When lamps plays in the
superman93
And for those of you saying the dude in the #8 shirt is not to blame please watch them match again. I got up early to watch this game and found myself nodding off..we wasted the entire first half with casual passing and lack of intensity in midfield. Mata was hardly on the ball Moses couldn't get a decent cross into the box. I watched him all game along with Ramires. He was the one pointed and telling other players what to do...the Captain for the day..so if he had been of any real use then the team would have been better in midfield. We were outmuscled at many times as the Corinthians were stronger in challenges...thank heavens for Luiz who had many good moments in the match. The best team available always plays in the final which was not the case today. I am however glad that Mikel can be left out of the blame game even though he would have been massive today This match meant something to the Corinthians...it wasn't really important to Chelsea, If it was then a certain person would not have played in it.
had2bg
Luiz crying is making me cry! Feck!!!
Krested Kal-el
had2bg...first half he created 3 clear chances for Torres with balls in behind the defence, its not his fault if they can't bury them. Your views are blighted by hatred I'm afraid.
CalculatedKalou
well done boys
habbo
Everyone here is going to go and blame Lampard but he created the most chances and had a fine game. The problem was our desire, we didn't look up for it and also we need another striker we desperately do. Also we need a winger like Robben or Bal. we can't keep playing so centrally. How he missed that one on one at the end is beyond me. I thought he was back to his old form but he's just not himself and we've waited nearly two years for this.
ChelseaLover123
corinthians call themselves champions of the world while 8-10 teams in europe are better than them lol
TafChels
got to agree with kalou here. lampard has been injured for a good chunk of the season and we have still been shocking. The whole team lacks charactwr. i miss ballack miss an in form essien with working knees. miss alex and anelka. but most of all i miss drogba. this team of weakling midgets is depressing.
Clingy
i think the team cared as much as we do in England about this trophy = 3 points is worth more, however, what i don't get is all the team saying they want it and then playing like they were half asleep. Lamps clearly has gone completely! did Benitez bother watching Lamp's performances from earlier in the season? We are seeing what a few of us predicted at the start of the season and that is that our midfield 2 is just not up to it. When the 2 are ineffective the 3 does not work and the 3 is useless with the front 1 strolling around like he is the dogs danglies.
unclezillion
football is a game of chance so take it easy and keep supporting, but one thing torres is finished we should better get strikers rather than wasting our time on hin,
habbo
Chelsea loss doesnt make a difference to these legend lovers, they got their dose of lampards shiny legs and now defending them too. Pathetic plastc lovers of Lampard fc. I bet they were westham supporters before.
superman93
I dont care what anyone says,WE are the Champions of the world. We beat the likes of barca and bayern, we won the champions league. Corinthians were lucky. If we hadnt missed the Cahill and Torres chance, we would be celebrating. Corinthians are NOT the champions of the world when they only got one lucky result against a european team. Chelsea rule. CFC forever
TafChels
Clingy Drogs was crap 90% of the time last season1. he scored a goal or two at the right time but that does not mean he had a good year!
unclezillion
For one man's glory
blueblood4life
I only blame the coach for not making the right subs at the right time. As for the starting line up,if playing a donkey is what a coach needs to do to save his job, why not? Afterall,there has been the infamous romance with the media lately. He needed to appease the gods for his dear job.
Ohans
superman23 what a daft thing to say. lampard has had shocking games make no mistake but to peg him as the reason for the loss is ridiculous. there were problems all over the park. biggest problem is we are building a possession team that cant hold possession...thats a problem. our entire ethos falls at the first hurdle
Clingy
this Match will be my last for now, am so gutted,they have spoiled my day again,why the hell did you change your starting eleven who won comfortably in the semis, now we are in deep *****.. so probably we settle for capital one cup,and we call ourselves big team? am really missing our old generation, am getting to doubt this set of our small players,they are gettn too bullied.
jayb
this Match will be my last for now, am so gutted,they have spoiled my day again,why the hell did you change your starting eleven who won comfortably in the semis, now we are in deep *****.. so probably we settle for capital one cup,and we call ourselves big team? am really missing our old generation, am getting to doubt this set of our small players,they are gettn too bullied.
jayb
@ Clingy building a possession team with Lampard and Ramires in the pivot with torress as a striker.HAHAHA
superman93
Lamps played three balls for Torres in first half,gave diagonal balls to Moses and Torres.Mata,Hazard,Victor,FT9 were worse.
cfc250
Tafchels is in denial
blueblood4life
superman... who is he supposed to play that can keep posession, you're talking like we have xavi in the reserves for goodness sake.
CalculatedKalou
@superman mata hazard oscar etc the trident. if those players are not small possession players what are they. huge scary bosses? their strength is in quick incisive passes. before we were brute force and power. the new style is different. i miss the old days
Clingy
What do we really need Lampard for? Is he better than mikel in the pivot? Where was the leadership quality? Lol even luiz had a better game than him in the pivot. Lampard was there when we lost to Athleti, there when we lost to city in the charity shield. Does not offer much anymore get him sold in january.
Anarchy
I have no idea why RB tinker his lineup again. Luke was great in midfield during sf and why didn't he being allowed to play similar role again. Lampard was mediocre except for the passes to Torres. As for Torres, I am his greatest supporter but he let all of us down today... My advice to RB, stop tinkering the winning team. It is good to make changes, but must ensure with different tactic.... What a day.....
DrWatsons
JOSE MOURINHO JOSE MOURINHO JOSE MOURINHO JOSE MOURINHO!!!!!!
ChelseaLover123
JOSE MOURINHO JOSE MOURINHO JOSE MOURINHO JOSE MOURINHO!!!!!!
ChelseaLover123
It doesnt hurt much. Afterall it is only a 'useless charity' and glorified friendly or so they thought. That is why the legends failure to inspire the team dont count.
Ohans
And here we go again,the blame going to the persons we dont like in the team:to lampard,to rami,to torres!
blue5
Lampard is the key reason behind this loss if truth be told...although I cant realy blame him...its tubby who disrespected our best DM in Mikel...and glory hunted for the ''legend'' Mr.Lampard for whatever reason. Desmond 'll state my reasons out in black and white; 1. Lamard gave a total of three passes long and good passes in 90minutes, lost the ball five times in vital areas, had a near zero contribution defensively because 95% of the time he was ahead of Ramires i guess looking for glory of scoring. 2. Playing a double pivot of Rammy and Lampard with Lampard further ahead most times ( i dont know if that was tubby's instructions or Lamps doing a legend stuff) meant Ramires dint burst forward through out the match...so lampard did nothing defensively and Ramires near nothing on the offensive...I cant blame ramires...he did what was best for the team as he had to watch his back and hence the team's back. 3. when was the last time chelsea Huffed the ball?...honestly i cant remember..i am now used to us us playing with the ball on the ground looking for those passes..How do we keep the ball on the floor? because players in the double pivot always made themselves available for the pass...to start an attack. today was huffing galore because lampard was always further forward..and one of rammy's strengths is not distribution..i am sure you know what i mean, Iam sure you saw on tv how our center backs continously called on the double pivot players to come collect the pass. 4. A double pivot of Mikel-Rammy was perfect for this match with the legend in later in the game to bring a calming influence like he has done in the last two matches...but tubby messed it up. 5. Until we buy a DM with a different characteristic to Mikel, he remains our best DM, and Tuby's reluctance to play him will kill the team especially if he is playing the legend in his place. 6. yes Moses was poor but he played on the wings...we lost the game in the defensive midfield...where there was a huge gap in the second half because legend lampard was always further forward and luiz had to come block the space distorting our overall shape 7. All the passes Lamps gave today, Mikel does just that (anyone who wants to argue with me should please be objective). Defensively, Mikel does 150% more than the legend, so what exactly is the reason for benching the young lad since he is even suspended against leeds...i mean bizarre stuff 8. Lamaprd will not be offered a new contract...he will move on...for that i am ok....no disrespect to him in any way, he has given so much to the club over the last decade...but truth is our overall shape is better off without him than when he is on the pitch...he impedes our creative players (especially Mata and Ramires) because he never stays in the pivot where he belongs. Until we sign a DM that is faster than Mikel in terms ot taught...he remains our best DM( with the injury to Romeu who could have really challenged Mikel) and just play the boy and stop disrespecting the poor boy.... 8. What a match to bring on Marin...it was so obvious tubby dint wanta to swallow his pride and do the right thing which was bring on Mikel for Lampard so that Ramires could attack....in the semi-finals when we were 3 goals up tubby, dint bring on marin and today in a very important match...he brought in Marin..who was not match fit...for tuby, old habits never die..... 9. I dont want to talk about ft9 because there is nothing more to say...adn why am I bothered..m sure tuby will be gone end of season in the name of God the father, son and the holy spirit..
layorh12
it hurts but what should we do?
habbo
it hurts but what should we do?
habbo
i think the biggest problem aside from being able to retain the ball is we dont look or play like a team. its like watching 10 strangers have a kick about. hopefully another season will fix this. i want a 4 4 1 1 or 4 3 3 or something different. this 4 2 3 1 is flat and predictable. we get locked down and lack options
Clingy
Torres and Moses were worse than Lampard..... Moses is a decent player, on his day he can be good but he is not a top quality winger....
Latunvic
if the double pivot cant do their primary job which is too keep possession and start attacks..there is hell no the three players behind the strikers can function...these 3 guys are really short and when you huff the ball to them, they get bullied quite easily...today...our double pivot failed because we served the legends...i dont understand this legend madness really.
layorh12
I dont care wat you guys 've to say & ve no regret in sayin my mind but i must say these, maybe 'll apologies later . The present chelsea is a disgrace to europe, maybe our european win is a fluke indeed. Cant wait to read wat mikel haters & lampard worshippers got to say
prince china
LOL @ blueblood4life....I understand totally. I am also surprised that Rafa changed the team for the final. He too must take plaudits for the defeat. Ivan should never play @ RB when a proper player is available. I can imagine how gutted the Brazilians on our squad must be...Oscar in particular @ not starting and Luiz loosing after being so massive. When will Chelsea learn to respect EVERY opponent they face? Lack of respect can flatten you before get anywhere in life. As a club we should have no easy games from now on.
had2bg
@superman93. After a comment like that I'd probably try to stay away from the word ''plastic'', were I you.
Puttinuttan
OK..here it is...Tubby used Lampard in the pivot because of the perceived lack of leadership on the team. The pivot requires a playmaker/passer that can defend some and get forward some. That is not Lampard. Lampard is an ACM..Then Tubby paired him with Ramires who can't pass the ball at all. So bottom line is the pivot is a huge problem....problem is that NO combination of Lampard/Mikel/Ramires or even Romeu is good enough to be competitive. Mikel/Romue are very similar both DCM that play the ball slow....Ramires SHOULD NOT be a starter...He is an energy guy thats it as he can't pass the ball whatsoever. No skill. So as far as the pivot...Chelsea lacks the players currently on the team to be effective. Tubby was forced to sit Mikel on the bench because Corintihans flood the midfield and Mikel is the worst at ball distribution. I just don't understand why he got a 5 year extension...same with Ramires...why did he get an extension last year. WHO makes theses decisions? Neither is Chelsea set up well for a 4-4-2 with few options as a true left mid. Sturridge is gone in January...Lets face it..I like Moses as he takes on defenders but his crossing of the ball is very average and he is NOT a goal scorer so I never would expect to see him as a CF. Torres today was terrible. The announcers were laughing at him with his lack of ability to hold the ball. Torres needs to be sold in January as he will be a problem if he is retained and Chelsea go out and get another CF. How can a team that wants to finish in the top 4 of the EPL each year employ such poor CF's??? For all of you David Luiz bashers...he was the MOTM...best player EASY today...The kid will be the next leader as there is no one else...Hazard was also good today...I thought Mata had his worst game in a Chelsea sweater today...just poor...Team needs a CF, a playmaker/passer and a destroyer DM to really compete...Cahill had a poor game today as well...Ivan may need to make the permanent switch to center back and let Cesar takeover the RB position and let Ivan/Cahill rotate in the middle. We are a long way off but I knew it was a year in transition. Need some players in January.
lamarochs
You people dont get it. If Moses plays poorly its not that big a deal but when Lampard plays in the pivot it unbalances the whole team and then everybody looks poor and the other team is all over us. How can u play without a DM. I am sick of player power and these Lampard interviews to the media. Its his way to push pressure on the managers and he knows that he has stupid blind lovers behind him. No way he should be offered even a one year conract. Bentiz the coward should have palyed Oscar And Mikel instaed of LAmpard and Moses.
superman93
Guys, let's forget about who should be blamed for the loss, what we should worry about is how we can show a decent performance when mata is having an off game.... it seems when mata is poor, chelsea is poor and vice-versa. The other guys really have to step up their games and we are in desperate need of a new striker, DM, deep-lying playmaker and a dependable natural winger....
Latunvic
wiztl is a dm isnt he? maybe we could buy de rossi or too old?
Clingy
@Latunvic...my point the game was lost in central midfield...where we could not win the ball back (I cant count the number of time Lampard was easily turned) and the double players were not available for the central defenders to ensure we retain possession and start attacks....distribution is never one of rammy's strengths...and Lampard was always further foward wanting to score..he just did not take responsibility given his experience and ability...(Pirlo and Scholes are still part of their respective clubs because they take respensibilty)...this is not about using your fingers to organize players its about making yourself available for the pass in central midfield, and getting the ball on time to the more attack minded players on the floor as well as doing the dirty unsong job of winning the ball back...Lamapard does not want to do the dirty job of winning the ball back...but he wants no score...no wonder Mikel is not appreciated...Lampard only contribution was only those 3 passes...and that does not and will never warrant a starting postion in the pivot...hopefully he will be gone in 6 months or better still january...i will say it again..with the players we have now and the way we play...our overall shape is better when Lampard is not on the field...I am soo certain he wont be offered a new contract...he should move on...he is still a very good player..and thanks for everything he has done for the club..but chelsea has to move forward we are not into legend worships....
layorh12
@Latunvic..the question is why was Mata poor...he was poor because his largely because his part of the field was being shared with teh lagend...who was desperate to score....i mean we need to address the real issues...thats the best way to move forward.
layorh12
At the the start of the season many people said we are too lightweight in the final third and should go for Hulk. Looks like they were right. Now we should go for a versatile and mobile/athletic beast like essien of old or Yaya Toure. Fellaini is the answer may be.
superman93
The reason we lost the game was because our £50m striker can't score from 5 yards out! If Drogba was Mr CUP FINAL, Torres is Mr I CAN ONLY SCORE WHEN IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER AND I'LL BE SURE TO PLAY WOEFULLY IN THE BIG GAMES. Get him out of here!!
CobhamBlue
to be Frank,am really disappointed in this match,we don't deserve any trophy this season.all the trophies we lost this season was lost on merit.right nnow,i cant sleep,cant do anything now,i hate myself now,i blame myself for being a football freak.
jayb
@ Lamoroach,if you are still crying about Mikels contract extension then you should go jump off a cliff.. I for once think Mikel would have been perfect for this game apart from Lampard who isnt match fit.. You gotta remember that he hasn't played in a long time due to injury and RB had to play him in this game . You can see how gaping our middle was becos there was nobody challenging ....... Btween Mikel has always proven to be a player for big occasions.. Go back in history and check most cups that we have won , he has always been huge and important and Immense in those games. I guess you and Rafa has no clue about chelsea history....
TheIncrediblue
Torres is a bleeping curse.
Carefree_1990
@Theincredible...thanks...some folkds know the truth but are not man enough to admit it....Benching Mikel in this match WITH THE PLAYERA WE HAD AVAILABLE...was gross disrespect...ass licking of the legends..and the legend killed us...Drogba very wise man...left when the ocacsion was peak!!...if Lampard knows what is good for him, he'll leave now of risk his overall status as a legend...although..i am sure he wont be offered a new contract we are better off when he is not on the pitch...
layorh12
That means i'l have to be weary of my dreams from now on. It was clear and not vague, i saw us defeated in this game. And lo and behold it was so. Am gutted ,oohhhh!!
Ohans
We lost the Shield and the Super, dropped out of CL and now lost CWC final. We badly need to restructure the squad to bring back a balance. A top striker is a must and we need to solve the holding midfield position. I'd rather see a long term solution and quality in every decision.
1970Blue
Our players honestly didn't care(besides the Brazilians),you could sense that,and for Corinthians,this was the game of these players lives,they worked their socks off and ultimately deserved it.It will be embarrassing to go back to Europe trophyless,unlike the previous 5 or so but if you want to win a trophy just for the sake of saving face rather than wanting to win it for the prestige of the tournament,it's not a very important trophy,is it?Battering Leeds would be a great hangover cure,although the players will be tired and dejected,can't really expect a win.
BlueBlaze
@layorh12, I understand your point and agree our midfield was a bit weak and uncoordinated, but yet, we were able to create some chances which I feel were enough to win us the game had our attacking players done the right thing.... I'm not a Lampard fan but it was expected and just natural that he would lead the team out for this, even if it's his last honour before he leaves...and I don't think we lost because of Lampard. We need a more ruthless and effective strike force, if Mata doesn't show up or get the goals, nobody else can..... even in games we didn't play Lampard, we lost matches because our forward failed to convert their chances.
Latunvic
@layorh12 I was just waiting for the first guy to drag Mikel's name into this and it was shocking that pple dont see beyond their hatred. I am just at a loss why lampard started this game ( maybe RB underestimated our opposition) . A good manager would know better so I conclude RB is not the person for this team. Torres still as poor as ever, sad that Ramires couldn't play his normal game as he was defending all the time ,we know whenever he plays besides Mikel ,he is able to make those runs . We lost this game becos of the team's setup which was setup to fail anyways. Its sad but I think we need to experience something Arsenal like so our management can see how much they are destroying this team..
TheIncrediblue
Lamaro.....always hating on mikel even when he's not playing
prince china
now Roman get this straight, the problem with this team is not coaches fault but lack of clinical strikers, u brought in Rafa and we are 13pts behind manu(eventhough we have 1 outstanding match), so Rafa hasnt done anything to solve what RDM couldnt solve.
darilngblue
@layorh12, Mikel may have done better, but it's not a given, we've seen him struggle against strong, energetic and athletic midfield players... I would have gone for Mikel-Luiz or Luiz-Lampard (to honor lampard)...
Latunvic
1st corinthians chapter 1 verse 10 ''I appeal to you,brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought.''
blue5
mikel haters were are u? mq, were are u?
darilngblue
@Ohans I'd add nightmares to that as well given today's performance
ForeverChels
sell lamps,mikel,ferrera,maluda,cole,sturidge.buy benat fellaini contrao ba falcao and rodrigez.
mzee69
Yeah go on with the blame game,it should solve the probs...it will ultimately win us the CWC back. Oh yeah in the process don't forget to blame fans for not turning up in their no's in yokohama,including you lots....and blame the ball,its basically too hard for kicking. #blame game.
nelyvanile
@layorh, I agree with all u stated, but with all ur well mapped out points which shows u understand the game, u forgot one thing and that is rafa starting and changing the winning team, if he had played david luiz and ramires or ramires and mikel in the pivot, (i.e not changing the teams momentum) we'll have played better in this game, I said it in the sunderland game that its a perfect time to introduce marin in our team in the 61st minute and we'll know what he can do by now when he is enjoying his game, everytime he have been introduced as a sub, this lad plays under pressure either we are chasing a game or trying to win, so that is were the problem lies today, rafa's team selection today robbed him and his tactical nous was absent
Desmondadonis
@Latunvic....but we lost mos of those matches with some good possession..no huffing...that is my point...if we want to play fluid and develop a philosophy there will be set backs no doubt which is understanding...but today we did nothing...we dint keep the ball and we dint it back...clear rafa wants high tempo pressing ....please watch the matches the legend dint start and see how we pressed and played while the legend was injured or on the bench....when lampard is in the double pivot on the pitch there are two major weaknesses...1. he contributes next to nothin defensively because he is always further ahead wanting to score...2. he is hardly available (unlike Mikel) in the area just before the center circle to start our attacks...hence we start to huff...and with the 3 attacking players all short and skinny...we gat no chance when we huff....so when lampard is in the double pivot against decent opposition..our losses are more embarassing...we play terrible and we also loose...'ll say it for the upteenth time..with the current players we have...our overall shape is far better when lampard is not on the field...we keep the ball better...and we start attacks without huffing...enough said....i am glad 'll only endure this for 6 months..thanks roman at least for not joining in the ass licking episodes...arrant nonsense..!!
layorh12
@blue5...That was simply amazing,I had to get a bible and confirm the verse...hahahaha...okay that's a smile from no where. Brilliant.
nelyvanile
guys, wasnt it this same bloke who sent TERRY off vs Barcelona?????????!!!!!!!! someone rply + was the red worth it?????
Tunez
The whole team played S***.
B2K420
Yes, it was the same guy.
B2K420
Rafa y did u bring marin on? even against monterrey(or whatever thier name is) wen we were leading 3-0, u didnt bring him, now wen we were behind u brought him on to do what? score or do magic? THERE IS ONLY ONE DI MATTEO.
darilngblue
thanks B2K
Tunez
Tunez.Yeah.It was the same bum who sent off Terry.Had Puyol or Pique done that to Drogba,he would have booked Drogba for diving.No clue to why Cahill was sent off.
cfc250
@darilnblue @Mq the troll is right where we left him, with Pep: http://i47.tinypic.com/20fosye.jpg%5B/IMG%5D
ForeverChels
I may be in the minority of one, but on the whole I didn't think we played that badly. Before the game we were told this team had a very solid defense and are incredibly difficult to breakdown. It certainly turned out to be the case and yet to me we created better chances than them (other than their goal obviously). Cahill was very unlucky not to score early on and their keeper made a finger tip save from Moses. Then of course there was the dreadful Torres miss and even after that he strays half a yard offside when he could see the line and should have stayed on - Why didn't he? We knew - or should have known - we wouldn't be creating 25 chances. If we had a lethal striker, we'd have scored at least once. As ever Torres is the ruin of Chelsea.
CobhamBlue
@Latunvic...I am in a really bad mood...please support your point on Mikel...please kindly tell me one cup final where Mikel has struggled...SINCE HE JOINED CHELSEA?....just one...we keep disrespecting this poor lad..while he is not the without his faults, my point is until we sign a DM with a different characteristic...Mikel remains our best DM and should be treated with some respect...you dont bench your best DM in a cup final...especially one who has a history pf playing well in cup finals...especially for a so called legend...who was just soo terrible...in terms positional awareness, the simple ball distribution and links the defense to the more attack minded players...and the humility to do the dirty job of winning the ball back....all i saw was a legend using his captain band hand to arrange players while he himself was further up the pitch looking for how to score...we need to say the truth as it is...why did we loose..we lost because tubby's selection was crap...why was his selection crap?...his selection was crap because he joined the bagon and legend ass licking...nobody is saying lampard should not lift the cup if we had won...but he should have come in much later in the game....and I was shocked tubby dint make that change (Mikel for Lampard) at least to allow rammy attack...i said earlier i dont wanta talk about FT9 because there is nothing to say...I can bear this because i know its only for 6 months...lampard will be gone (he wont be offered a new contact)..and tuby and his son FT9 will also be out....at least that is what evidence from this match suggests...and apprently the 16th minute boos boys will have reasons to continue even though i dont support them...but i understand them...we will finish top4 by God's grace and with the departure of Legend Lampard (although he is obviously reluctant), tuby and his son...i should be a very man still my clun...chelsea FC is faaaaaar bigger than individuals...let the legend deal with it...
layorh12
@darilnblue @Mq the troll is right where we left him, with Pep: http://i47.tinypic.com/20fosye.jpg%5B/IMG%5D
ForeverChels
@nely,i looked at the comments coming and i had to get a bible,atleast to cheer up my afternoon.any loss to the team and blame game floor opens its door,ouch!
blue5
@Layorh12,am proud of you. You have just shut me up with those bitter truths. Nothing else to add. You've said it all. @incredible...thank God for people like you who not only understands the game,but says the truth without bias.
Ohans
@Layorh12,am proud of you. You have just shut me up with those bitter truths. Nothing else to add. You've said it all. @incredible...thank God for people like you who not only understands the game,but says the truth without bias.
Ohans
so so so gutted, unable to win 3 trophies in 4matches
darilngblue
@Desmond...of course you are right i did not forget it...Legend Lampard started in the double pivot....courtesy of Tubby decision to join the legend ass licking...which cost us....in fact that is the summary of the whole gist...like i have said nobody is against lampard lifting the cup if we had won...he deserves it....but at least he could have come in later in the game....in our current set up, the only position legend lampard can fit without the team being hurt is mata's position...but which coach is his right senses will drop mata for lampard...mata is technically far better and a lot more selfless....this reinforces my point...with the players we now have, we are better when lampard is not on the pitch...mark my words lampard is still a very good player...when legend lampard leaves chelsea and goes to another club where he plays as the most advanced midfielder in a system (4-3-3 or even a 4-2-3-1 where he plays in the hole behind the striker)...he will do really well....but does not mean he should stay with chelsea that is my point...with the present players we have and our loaness as well as the system and philosophy we are trying to develop, we are better off without him....in 6 months time chelsea as a club will be taking giant steps forward...
layorh12
@layorh12 calm down! there is no denying mikel is our best DM, but yes, it's true he struggles against athletic midfielders, Diame against Westham is the closest I can remember, not saying Lampard is better than Mikel, so calm down. And my main point is that our attackers lost us the game... we still could have conceded that one goal with Mikel playing and still could have lost if our attackers failed to convert......
Latunvic
FOOLS!!!!!
TheIncrediblue
i am not saying we cant loose to Corinthians...this is football where anything can happen...and we are in transition which even makes it more understandable...but with each loss...we want to see that we are progressing and trying to achieve somthing for the long term with our players for each position on the pitch...today i dint see any of that...even if a Double pivot or Mikel/ Rammy or Rammy/ Luiz (the first being my preffered based on the players we currently have) had started, its not 100% certain that we'll win..but then I am sure we would have better and taken one more step in instilling our new philosophy into our players who will represent us for at least the nextg half decade...instead brillant tubby went into a session of legend ass licking which is just pathetic...
layorh12
CWC 2matches we couldnt win, comm shield 1match, super cup 1 match, all this ended with heartbreakes, if only roman will learn from this, the better for us.
darilngblue
Lolz...@forever...yea it turned to be a nightmare. @Blue5,,nice one there.
Ohans
@Launvic..Mikel is not perfect and maybe he could have better in some matches just like any other player...but what i asked is that you name a CUP FINAL where Mikel has not done a yoo-man's in DM..and maybe we can rest this...I am not a die hard Mikel's supporter in any way...all I want is for the best players for each postion to play...when we get another DM who has a faster taught process than Mikel and who distributes the ball better, has better positional sense and can play some craker shots on goal...Mikel goes sraight to the bench and becomes a squad player immdiately...no sentiments...but based on the players we have right now and given that Mikel has played quite well in all the cup he has featured..there was no point licking then ass of a legend only to bring ourselves shame and to loose an opportunity we dont know when next will arise...tubby is just proud and pride and foolishness are close friends unfortunately...no wonder his managerial career has been the way it is...like i said i can take all thes bcos its only for 6 months...
layorh12
Ofcourse CobhamBlue you wouldn't think it was a performance considering Lampard was on the pitch.
foreign_viewer
As I predicted Lamps will get all the blame for this game.
Ess...DaBison
Can it be the coach all the time? I think it's high time those fans who go to the stadium week in, week out should start screaming on the under performing players. Because, it simply can not be the coach all the time. we need players who can stand up for the team when things are not going well. players with huge personality and charisma like ballack, terry, drogba, makalele ( call them egoistic if you like). Not some bunch of over payed young kids. Although david luiz, gary cahill stand out for me but the rest are not just it
olahsymbo
whenever lampard play in the pivot we always look clueless and when mata have offday like this we always struggle, and about torres there is nothing more to say bcus he is so pathetic dat he has a clear goal chance dat even my grand pap will score. All in all i am totally dissapointed
Tosco
But even if Lampard want on the field would we really have won the game? When Hazard, Mata, Moses and Torres did get the ball today (and they did pretty often) they did nothing with it. Hazard is good on the ball BUT he never does anything threatening with it. He is a winger he should be running at the defence whenever he gets the opportunity (and he did plenty of times today) but he hardly does. Same for Moses. Mata surprisingly was bad, he failed to get into the physicality of the match.

Just saying take lampard out of today's game we still wouldnt have won this game..FACT!
Ess...DaBison
*wasnt
Ess...DaBison
We played straight into their hands today.....they wanted a narrow game and that's what they got. Hazard just goes wondering into the middle whenever he feels, the boy needs some discipline. It got crowded in the middle and there was no out pass. We never stretched the defence. Sometimes I feel we need a player like Valencia or bale who hod the by-line which stretches teams and makes it easier for players like Mata and Lampard to pick out their passes and carve the defence. Hazard has the ability to play this position but at the moment is lacking the discipline!
Ess...DaBison
As it is now, i don't want to say much cos am boiling up inside. What on earth was Rafa thinking? Alright he is forgiven for starting a match rusty,past-it Lamps ahead of Mikel,but why insist on seeing him play the entire duration even when he clearly doesn deliver the goods?.
Ohans
At a point in the second half,just before we conceeded,it was clear we needed more power and defensive shield in the midfield cos the pressure was piling up. This legend nonesense has been the bane in the coaches well being. And that mostly involves Frankie.
Ohans
To all the boo-boys, I hope your happy ..Rfa played Lampard to placate you lot and get ou onside....as soon as I saw Lampard on the team sheat ..and OMG as captian..i knew e'd lost. IF i can see this why couldnt Rafa??? You boo boys are all to blame ..If you werent all playing the childish diots, would Rfahave made this schoolboy error? Lampard is old and slow like the match...well you lot got what you wanted...dont expect anything different from rest of season..When Torres puts a hatrick past Leeds , dont come saying that the old Torres is back..because he isnt and never will be!..Roll on Jauary and PRAY that we get Falcao
Blue_Mel
foreign_viewer, he certainly was one of our better players, played in a few telling balls to clown boy.
CobhamBlue
Ohans, Do you know anything about football? He does deliver the goods and today was the instigator of some of Chelsea best moves of the game.
CobhamBlue
Theincrediblue and layorh12...you guys are clueless...lampard was selected for leadership, experience and the perception that he can pass the ball...MIKEL CAN"T PASS THE BALL and DISTRIBUTES THE BALL TOOOOOOO SLLLOOOWWWW....the other team flooded the midfield....Mikel would have been a disaster with high pressure on a midfield with Mikel...Mikel can't distribute the ball. Lampard is an ACM he is always goal side to Mikel which means that Mikel must collect the ball front he defense and distribute....If you guys don't know what the **** you are talking about...just shut the **** up...
lamarochs
Wow, reading through these comments is just a joke. Torres haters, Lampard haters. The simple truth is that we had problems all over the pitch today and it is a bad team selection that caused this loss. Torres played well in the first half and missed an easy sitter in the second, but there's no way that he singularly cost us the match. Lampard played some great passes in the first half but was woeful in the second half and went back to leaving huge gaps in the midfield area which they punished us with. Moses on the wing was awful, but played well when he moved more into the middle. Hazard was our only forward player who I think had a reasonable game, and that's despite having to cover Lampard's defensive duties in the first half. Man of the match for us was Luiz without any doubt, but he should never have taken that free kick. Finally Cahill had a nightmare today. Aspi should have been on earlier and moved Ivan to replace Cahill at CB. Oscar should have played from the start, as should Mikel.
Bizarre_Blue
prince china - I don't hate Mikel....but Mikel like Ramires is one dimensional.....get it....Mikel is a pure DM but can't pass/distribute or be creative...Ramires has energy but can't pass/distribute or be creative...for them to be successful they need the correct partner that can be a playmaker/passer next to them...That person is NOT currently on this team...I don't hate Mikel or Ramires..but you can't ask them to do more than they can...Today Tubby should have told Lampard to sit his ass back and collect and distribute the ball and nothing else...don't go forward and get goal side of Mikel..That was poor coaching from Tubby...but putting too players out there with Ramires and Lampard together want to go forward..was not good..didnt everyone see the long balls over the top to the CF? that because the midfield was flooded by the opposition and our guys can't play the ball with speed. I call it like it is...If some of you guys don't want to hear the truth then that is tough ****...
lamarochs
I don't care what english fans say, but lamps destroying the teams play!!! can't wait for this has been to leave the team!!!! from the moment i saw him in the line up i knew we will lost the game...
artem_sumy
From twitter: John Obi Mikel 12/13 passes: 859; Accuracy:90%; Forwards: 32%; Tackles:37; Tackles won: 78%; Fouls: 29; Yellow Cards:3; Interceptions: 25;
foreign_viewer
Bizarre_Blue Hazard our best player? the guy did nothing effective with the ball, he played in front of the defenders all game and done nothing to trouble them. He had so many chances to run at their full back but never did either passing backwards or crossing wastefully. It was too comfortable for their defence. He made the game to narrow by cutting in way too often and therefore Mata hardly had an outlet, he (and Moses) never stretched the defence to make things easier for Mata and Lamps to pick out the passes. I thought he was woeful. The reason I say this is because he is so talented but its not being utilised. At the moment his talents aren't effective and I don't have the feeling that he's going to do anything effective when he is on the field.
Ess...DaBison
lamarochs, Look at the stats. Don't make things up.
foreign_viewer
What I am saying is when I see Hazards name on the team sheet I never get the "he's going to hurt teams" feeling..whereas for Mata you do!
Ess...DaBison
CobhamBlue, considering the fact you think Malouda is a great player, I won't take your opinion very seriously.
foreign_viewer
@lamarcochs...while i am ready to discuss football with you..i DO TAKE AN EXCEPTION to being called clueless...i am not a child and will prefer to talk to you while maintaining the minimum level of maturity required when supposed adults relate... its very possible to discuss without taking it to low levels and using foul languages...now to football matters...When I give an opinion, I support it with figures to put it into perspective...Lampard gave three 50yarders to FT9 in 90 minutes...but lost the ball on more than 6 occasions ( i stopped counting actually) in vital areas of the pitch...he was hardly available to recieve the pass from the center backs (hence you saw on tv Luiz and Cahill on occasions calling for somone to come pick up the ball, Lampard could not wining the ball back in that game (using a sweeper to win the ball just once in 90 minutes) and was turned in center midfield on quite a number of occasiions by the opposition. the primary responsibility of a double pivot player is to collect the ball from the defence line and link play with the 3 attacking players in the opponent's final third. the last responsibility is to break play and regain the ball from the opposition. Aside from the 3 passes to FT9, Lapmard did no more. He was always ahead of ramires in Mata's part of the pitch preventing ramires from attacking( ramires had zero dashing runs today) and obscuring mata's movements. Lampard is not a double pivot player, he is more of an attacking midfielder and he is finding it almost imposible to adjust killing our team in the process. So if Lampard was included for leadership....if you were to be honest with your conscience did he show any leadership on the pitch today?...leadership is not about using your hand to arrange players...its about doing your part of the job for the team and then taking extra responsibilties..I am certain Lampard did not do that today...Watch JT and learn what it is to have a leader on the pitch...he is not only very every solid in defence , but also takes extra responsilities and have scored some important goals..but he has NEVER neglected his defensive duties....yes Lampard has expirience but i did not see any of that today either...i mean the opponents robbed lampard of the ball from behind today...given his level of experience that should not be happening (Pirlo and Scholes are in similar age brackets with similar levels of experience...i have seen that happen to them as they have a very high sense of opsitional awareness)...i will be happy to learn from you as you point out how lampard experience came in handy to day....you also said he was included because he could pass..and I have told you stats from the match suggest he only completed 3 of such passes in 90 minutes ALL OF THEM IN THE FIRST HALF...all was to FT9....as far as the passes were concerned...any unbiased chelsea fan will testify that Mikel can give these passes maybe not all the time but he definitely can and has given them in times past...as a player in the double pivot...Mikel retains the ball better, wins more tackles and has a far higher sense of positional discipline which is why he hardly scores...I have said it before, I am not a Mikel supprter, all i wanta see is us using the best players available for their posittion...overall his Lampard a better double pivot player than Mikel?...I am sure you know the answer is a big NO. when Mikel plays with his imperfections.. at least Rammy takes a lot more risk going forward and Mata can play his role without being obstructed and LUiz does not have to come to the DM region to fill the hole and break play like he was doing today..because Mikel will always be there...truth is our overall shape is better when Legend Lampard is not on the field given the players we have now and the system we are playing...benching Mikel today was a bad decision...because it has no rationale....the poor lad deserves a bit more of respect....When we eventually sign a DM who is faster than Mikel in terms of taught execution, speed and positional awareness as well as better shots on goal....Mikel will be benched and he becomes a squad player immediately..no sentiments..I love chelsea more than any single player....and if you wanta argue please support your argument with facts not just emotions...its the best way for intelligent people to discuss and argue footy...not the cheap jibes....
layorh12
Lampard to QPR???? damm i would pay them to take him January , never mind in the summer
Blue_Mel
No one is blaming Mata even do hes last good game was in october. Only blamig Lampard and Torres . Why? is it Only cause mata is 24 and lampard is 34 and Torres 29? Or is it cause you Only hate lampard more then you love Chelsea? Alla the avb fanboys must have misses that he is the manager of Tottenham now.
Lakupiippu
Even say that mata should be Chelsea captain. Hahahah Only shows that many( the majoroty) on here has never played football in their life!!!!
Lakupiippu
layorh12 - all you did was repeat what I have already stated. The conversation started by you saying that I was a Mikel hater... I am not...you think that I support the selection of Lampard in the pivot...I didn't I stated simply why Lampard and Ramires didn't work and why Mikel wouldn't work either....for the 50th time...I like Mikel as the DM but not when he is forced to distribute the ball...also I didn't say Lampard was a passer I said he was "perceived" to be the passer....Did anyone see the Lampard/Mikel pivot during the preseason....it was pathetic....this has been discussed at length and forever on this board. Bottom line is that you can't leave the distribution of the ball to either Mikel or Ramires...everyone knows it that is WHY opposing teams flood the midfield and press our midfield BECAUSE they know Chelsea has NO ONE that can perform the job especially Mikel....the truth about Mikel is that he is OK.or.Good...but not great because he is one dimensional..There needs to be a major upgrade in the pivot/midfield if Chelsea wants to be a consistent top 4 team. The board has made some bad purchases and the team lacks quality depth...and loaned out players that could really help...KDB, Josh McEachran....Josh would be an immediate improvement in the pivot why is he not on the 1st team?
lamarochs
What is all these arguments on Mikel/Lampard...... all about? Some people here are never tired or saying the same thing over and over...
Latunvic
Wrong team selection and we got what we deserved lose the game two big trophies and we fecked up I am gutted.
Elbowz
@lamarochs.....may be you are mixing things up..please check the entire thread..I have never called anyone a Mikel hater..because that is not essence of this discussion...I am not a Mikel liker either..this is about chelsea....a combination of Lampard with any other player in the pivot has not worked...fact!!...Lampard/Rammy, Lampard Mikel...this reason is that Lampard's interpretation of the role is either wrong or he just does not have the skills set to play the role adequately..based on the players we have now...before upgrade in January..i think our best pivot pairing is Rammy Mikel in my opinion...especially against tougher oppositions...both are not perfect but compliment each other quite...when the upgrades come..then we see where we go with the double pivot...Starting Lampard today was a bad decision that cost us the match for reasons i highlighed earlier...we are better when he is not on the field...maybe he is better as a sub...and to add lampard DIT NOT distribute the ball today...long passes is not equal to ball distribution...Mikel and Rammy would have been better today with lengend coming in later to add experience in the middle of the pack...I can see your choice of language has changed...good one mate..!!
layorh12
layorh12 - at this point i would rather have David Luiz/Mikel or Oscar/Mikel...
lamarochs
foreign_viewer, Malouda was a great player. He was the Chelsea players Player of the Season the year they won the Double and was Chelsea's top league scorer the following season - in the days when a bad season was finishing 2nd - and has played in 1 World Cup Final (winning France a penalty) and 2 Champions League Finals. Obviously Mourinho, Hiddink & Ancelotti know less about football than you.
CobhamBlue
Torres is the worst striker I've ever seen play for Chelsea. He is leagues behind Crespo, Kalou, Kezman, Gudjohnsen, Drogba, Hasselbaink, Anelka, and even Shevchenko.
k.chelski
So you think Malouda is great player? You're the last man standing on the one.
foreign_viewer
I hope we get Walcott, keep Sturridge and recall Lukaku. Having one striker is not working. Manure are only where they are because they can call on at least 5 strikers.
foreign_viewer
How good/bad is Saville in CM/DM?
foreign_viewer
We need Benteke : strength, height and finish. He is like our Drogba incredible
Prettyguy
After all the midfield bashing, the bottom line is if we had a half decent striker we would have taken it into extra time. Torres' miss was so bad it was almost laughable. I didn't believe he was back after sunderland and now I BELIEVE he will NEVER be back. I'd take Franco Di Santo over him. As far as I am concerned, TORRES OUT!
Carefree96
I Really don't know what to say at this juncture....... Hmmmmm!
Tugay08
This was an embarrassment of all proportions. Problem is fans here are busy tryin to find reason on selections, players when this result suggest a much bigger problem. Team selections, tactics.....CL winners are supposed to comfortably beat a Brazilian side. And even a mid table team such as Everton/Spurs/Newcastle is expected to deliver results against them. NOT Chelsea! This is not even funny anymore!
OCBlues
Prettyguy I agree. Benteke has the full package as a lone striker. And if not him then demba ba isn't a bad shout either. At least they trouble the defenders unlike poorress
Ess...DaBison
what i am about to say may hurt/offend a few. but...as a cfc fan i am actually glad we did no win. i woul rather us win wthout torres because i do not think he loves our club, only the wage. he only cares for himself and not the team. he b!tched and moaned when we won the UCL instead of celebrating with his team mates. did you see how king drogba was running around? did you see lamps, terry-even though he did not play? cole, luiz? i mean, torres is a cancer to the club just like he was at the end of his liverpool career. i don't like this guy. i am just hoping we finish top 4 and release him at the end of the seaon or rather in january window because for some reason i do not want him to lift anymore silverware with us so people can really see how bad of a cancer he was. we can all agree to disagree or agree.
bleetoe
foreign_viewer, I used the term WAS as he has been banished to the U21s for political reasons. The fact is he was Chelsea BEST player when they won the DOUBLE in 2010. If you think he wasn't a great player, or at least a very good player, you know nothing about football. Clearly at 32 he is no longer the player he was 2 or 3 years ago.
CobhamBlue
OCBlues, hold on a minute. Barcelona lost this match in the 2006 it's not like we're the first CL winners to lose.
CobhamBlue
I am following the back and forth between several VC members as to who and where the blame lies..clearly there are disagreements but may i just say that we should all be in agreement as to who is not to blame for todays debacle. This is important because the two guys i am about to mention are often blamed here on VC for virtually everything wrong with Chelsea FC..at least for today can all fair minded people at least agree that both RDM and Mikel have no share or part in what transpired in Yokahama today..unless of course someone wants to blame RDM for getting us into this world club cup in the first place.
GabeU
I have never felt this bad and demoralized after a defeat since Terry's slip @ Moscow. I dont know why, but it is very painful
SameX
I dont think not starting Mikel was the major problem, we still created chances, we could have been 3 up at half time. Problem is Hazard, Torres and Moses were not clinical enough. They had clear chances to score but they wasted them. The goal they scored was actually a crapy goal.
SameX
Torres has cost us so much, he has missed too many seaters that should have changed the cause of our season both in the EPL, CL and now CWC. We are really missing Drogba- a CF that could deliver when it mattered most.
SameX
SameX I actually agree with you for once...now that is strange!
Ess...DaBison
Blame! Blame!! Blame!!! A show of naivity...this is basically deeper than u lots think,I've said this countless times. Change managers,buy the best talents,if we do not address the core issue(building a team based on consistency and planning) we will come back here and blame players and the interim manager.
nelyvanile
Reason for the loss? DROGBA! He's no more. Damn! I so badly need us to sign Falcao all of a sudden. No other striker. I think he is the only one out there who has got this character to inspire victories even under adverse circumstances. El Tigre is another player who always rises to the big occasions. We can mention all the talents in the world like Schurrle, Ba, Neymar and all but they will all just be super talents with huge potential like our 'Small players'. What we badly need now is character. And we gotta sign Fellaini too. That guy too always stands out in the big games.
Fernando.9.Torres
All of you complaining about Lampard starting this match should just calm down, i don't think anyone of u would have been as *****ed off as i was seeing jis name in the line up but i accepted it because i think in the absence of JT, he deserves it. Some of you should learn to realize that there is politics/diplomacy/protocols,etc.... (call it whatever u like) in football and club management, there was no way on earth lamp was not gonna start that game, except if he is crippled, so we should stop complaining about what we couldn't have changed. Our attacking players let us down, some teams even have worse midfield than we do but win games cos they have a reliable attack....
Latunvic
Buy 'Interim' I do not mean Rafa,I'm talking about various interims we might/will have after him.
nelyvanile
Undeservedly including someone in the lineup dis-encouraged the whole team. Mata, hazard, Torres...... were all disappointed to see Lampard in the lineup, because it evident that he brings nada to the team....
EliteBlue
Breaking news(twitter) : rebellion reported in cfc camp as Cech and other key players slag Benitez for playing to please English press for unfit Lamp.
blueblood4life
just wondering why al these lampard blaming...the midfield was ok throughout we actually control the midfield the larger part of the game....i think the worse player on the field was moses,mata and torres...i think benitez got his tatics wrong today....had it been oscar started the game,may result could have been much better...luiz and hazzard were our best players on the field...Mata is known to always switch off in big finals eg UCL finals and FA cup finals.
lukakuta
Cobham....the fact that Barca lost this does not excuse us from losing this game. Barca losing is just consoling ourselves. And after that is said, we then have to accept the reality....we lost to a team that is not t our level. The gap is such that bad team selection, bad tactics should not really be a factor...especially when you saw how much our players seem to want it.
OCBlues
Given the chances we created, it's fair to say we "need" a proven goal scorer and right now there's non like Falcao....
@Mq
Torres OUT!!! We are becoming TorresFC and its killing us!!! The chance he fluffed from 5yards with just keeper to beat, i couldnt believe my eyes! Going all the way to Japan for this??? Can you all imagine the ride back for the boys?!?! I hope we do spend another 50m quid on Falcao just so that RA can feel his mistake in his balance books!!!
Tiraspol
Watching Barca vs Athletico, Falcao just hit the post now :)
@Mq
...Breaking news(twitter) : rebellion reported in cfc camp as Cech and other key players slag Benitez for playing to please English press for unfit Lamp....They don't want lamps to play BLUEBLOOD?? That's "amazing" because I thought he (and JT) were Mr and Sir Chelsea
@Mq
Am very very angry and it affected ma day,cfc has cost me much pain but have brought me greater joy but it seems our dynasty is crumblin before our eyes..we let didier(he is responsible for a greater % of trophies since 2004) go without adequate replacement instead we placed our hope on a misfirin torres,torres had 2 or 3 clear chances to put us ahead or draw us level,but he fluffed them all(didier would score one if not all of those chances)..i stil get over how we missed this great opportunity to be world champions
Ken4CFC
But the worst part would be that, if Falcao is signed and he starts banging in goals then the VC pundits will start saying 'I told you first that we need Falcao'. If he flops then the fickle fans would say 'I told ya he would flop and we should've signed X,Y or Z. Why that clown is signing players who manager doesn't want?' n bullcrap.
Fernando.9.Torres
I haven't found 1 "solid" reason why ppl believe Falcao would flop FERNANDO simply because all the "flops" we bought were far from the player Falcao currently is. We bought players showing signs of decline, and I believe this would the the ideal time to get a player at just about his pinnacle performance-wise
@Mq
Its not so much starting Lampard its the decision to keep him on past the 60min mark anyone with eyes could see he was struggling to keep up in the second half and as a result corinthians even started controlling the game and dominating possession. There are a fair few Liverpool supporters I know who think if it was not for Benitez rotation they may have won the title in 2009.
Anarchy
True Mq. I was just pointing out the general trend over here. The way they talk trash about someone who made the club that it is today. I'm all IN for Falcao. I see him as the only player capable of filling up the massive void left by Didier.
Fernando.9.Torres
Falcaoooooo
@Mq
Sublime from El Tigre. Radamel FALCAOOOOOOOOO!
Fernando.9.Torres
"Lionel Messi eat your hear out"...say's the commentator. Great "chip" by Falcao, we need him asap
@Mq
@mq, i agree with on that...u got shevy after he had pickd with acmillan which torres was battling with injury and form when we bought him but actually played well against chelsea...l think this is the ideal time to get falcao
lukakuta
@mq, i agree with on that...u got shevy after he had pickd with acmillan which torres was battling with injury and form when we bought him but actually played well against chelsea...l think this is the ideal time to get falcao
lukakuta
What a goal by Adriano :(
@Mq
The possession stat so far is 77-23. Freak stuff man. This is a pretty good athletico side and still it's all the same possession story.
Fernando.9.Torres
We need to buy him in Jan. Forget about the past, we made mistakes and we have to live with them. Let's not let the past hinder the bright future we could have. Madrid are sniffing around, we need to jump em. I understand FERNANDO there are elements in VC who always blame individuals sometimes unwarranted. Agree with LUKAKUTA too, we can't afford an Aguero 2.0
@Mq
Now what about that for a strike. Wow!
Fernando.9.Torres
Possession is Barca's way of defense FERNANDO, you can see their vulnerability defense-wise.
@Mq
sorry for the typo error.hope my message is stil clear for all to understand...
lukakuta
I've been part of this community for around 5 years now, though initially with another ID. I don't know when exactly you joined but used to see your comments since last year. I know there are lots of people who regularly slack you, but gotta say that your conduct was always commendable. I mean, despite of the fact that a bunch of butchers throw abuse at you for just expressing your views, never for once I've seen you use a single bad word. And frankly I used to find most of your comments sensible too unlike many over here who are just battling out and all so often show desperation by being aggressive when their views are discredited, even if it is with valid arguments. This has become a place where healthy discussions never happen anymore. Anyways, keep it up mate. :) And yea that's their way of defense but still its quite remarkable how they regularly get to do it even against top class oppositions.
Fernando.9.Torres
It's refreshing to see that someone other than that superhuman lad is scoring for Barca today. Busquets 2-1!
Fernando.9.Torres
I would like to apologize to the board..sorry for my ranting...I was venting my frustration...Lutunvic...thank you...you are correct...If Moses would have scored...or if Torres would have scored...the midfield issues would not have been discussed.
lamarochs
I thought the world was coming to an end. But HELL NO! LIONEL scores. #NormalityResumed
Fernando.9.Torres
@Latunvic..youre talking ballocks. Lampard should have been on the bench - AT BEST! Do we and teh manaer want to win the games or do we want to play to the press and media? Does Ferguson play to these supposed "politics/diplomacy/protocols,etc" or does he play to win ? My guess he plays to win and most of the time ...he DOES! ..The only game we are playing hee is soccer...and we shuld be playing to win ..not appeasing the media or certain boo boys in the crowd. The manager s answerable to the owner....its the owner who pays his wages...end of
Blue_Mel
oh and take note...Ive been saying lets get Falcao since the SUper Cup match when it was revealed that Roman wants him....I back the owner... even when hes wrong as in the Torres affair
Blue_Mel
Lucas Piazon “We lacked character and love for the shirt.Nobody wanted to play. At least Oscar tried, I will not specify which players didn’t, but the team came unwillingly. You can’t get in to a final and be unwilling to play, that is unacceptable. They were missing the desire to be a champion. I think the Brazilian players, Ramires and David Luiz, strove to the utmost and therefore are sad.” “David Luiz can not enter into a final without thinking about being in a final,But I realised that David was ill. No wonder, he was one of the few who actually cared.”
Krested Kal-el
@ Krested those quotes are fake and Piazon has confirmed he was taken out of context.
nelyvanile
THE GOD strikes again. 90th goal of 2012. Oh my freaking Messi. Insane. #Faints
Fernando.9.Torres
Torres is the shoite end of.
Elbowz
That is football, Mosses nearly got one, and Torres miss, couldn't he shoot anywhere else but goal keeper. And offside goal, we where very close. Torres looked poor, every time was looking fro help from referee. Can we get at least 30mil for FT? I would sell him, we need striker that can create his own chances.
NikolaTesla
And i can not believe some people are still crying about RDM, if it was RDM we would have lost 5 nill, played without striker etc. ridiculous. RB. I am not up to date why Mickel did not play we needed strong players, i think they intimidated us with power.
NikolaTesla
does Torres have twitter....i want to tell him that he is 5hit and make sure he knows that no one wants him...he is pure and utter garbage. I never wanted him and i was pleading for us to sign aguero instead!
Ess...DaBison
lol chelsea fans are funny, what did u expect from a team who sold or ushered out most of its core players and brought in inexperienced (at d highest stage) and fragile players to come and conquer d world (but still forgets that the one thing u need with new crop of players is a coach that will b with them for d most parts of thier stay in d club). There are some obvious things we should have noticed dis season. 1. We will get beaten by physical sides cos our front 4 are so fragile (mata is the worst, he is always scared of losing his leg to injury). 2. Isnt it obvious dat we are fluke champs, not only have we disgraced ourselves, we have disgraced the ucl title. For us the so called 'king of europe' to play 3 finals and lose all (outplayed in all of them) is something that shuld make abramovich think about his desire 2 want 2 play like barca, if not, we will end up like arsenal. 3. Those of u saying corinthians were lucky, go eat ur words cos Isn't it now obvious dat we were lucky 2 win d ucl and even d fa cup. I can bet dat if we play corinthians 5 times, we will never come close 2 winning a match (with our current squad) cos d truth is dat THEY ARE BETTER THAN US. PERIOD.
don delsy
Lampard and Torres should be replaced by Fellaini and Falcao.enough said...
Chelsea n Torres Fan
@don delsy- haha lool 'they r betr thn us'. ur nt serious are you. just because thy bt us it dnt make them better. we beat fkin barca nd bayern but they r both betr thn us. right now the best teams are 1-Barca 2-RM 3-Bayern 4-Man City 5-Juve 6-Man utd 7-Chelsea 8-Dortmund 9-PSG 10-Arsenal. We are the 7th best team in Europe and the 3rd best in PL (which is actually correct). NO brazilian team would make it into the top 25.
Humza_96
Fellaini isnt wrth 30m. 2 solve our pivot problems ( which are lack of leadership nd physical presence nd a deep lying playmaker) we shd move luiz there bcos he is the perfect solution. nd to replace we shd get a decent CB either recall kalas/bruma etc or buy one bcos CBs are dirt cheap.
Humza_96
Wake-up! jet-lagged, tired or other, we played *****e!!! lazy, lazy performance - no penetration, no possession, nothing! We only came alive n the last 4 mins!! and if I see another needless BACK-PASS, I`ll start supporting Rafa!!!!!!!!!
mr Angry!
i have never been more disappointed in Fernando Torres
bleedblueSTL
My few bits (not a summary) ..... Oscar should have started ... he & the other brazilians had demonstrated how much this Cup meant to them, he would have been fired up for the final. Moses was very bad in the 1st half, improved quite a bit thereafter. Marin should not have been brought on with 3 minutes to play - he has not had much of competitive football this so far, i was too much of an ask for him to change the game in 5-7 minutes or so. I feel we started with the wrong team. Rafa missed a trick with the starting line-up, but do not feel Lampard was the reason for our defeat. He was OK. The main problem was lack of finishin up front. Torres missed the chance of the match when the rebound came to him with only the keeper to beat - not something we want form our "main" striker. Methinks we need an alternative - i would not mind Falcao as a replacement.
ZeeNut
mata was just too woeful, I think oscar should play in his stead in the next 2 games, maybe that will make him buckle up, anytime he doesn't perform, we end up eating the dust and its in important games too, moses disappointed me for the first time in a chelsea shirt and that shot was the only bright side of his game and cassio is a good keeper, but moses wasn't as poor as either mata or torres, the spanish players were not just up for it, and I ate it when our fans slag off other team's players and say they are not worth one amount or the they are not chelsea material, how can someone say fellaini aint worth 30m? A player bought by everton from standard leige for 15m, he have played almost 4 seasons for everton and being there best player most times, to say 30m is too much for him is a crime, if we get fellaini to play with rammy/mikel in the midfield, we'll have more strength and steel, if we can't get him we should get de rossi, or yanns mvilla! We actually need fellaini and (grudgingly) falcao/ba/bony to make us even get to top 3 at this rate
Desmondadonis
When i saw the line up with ramires and lampard then itself i know that we are going to loss this game by 1-0 or 2-0. For gods sake even a 5 yr old who watches football know that Lampard is not cut out to be a pivot player. Further if you pair him with mikel or ramires then you are just telling the opposition we dont want to win this game. So come and press and win. Even if you guys see the build up to our goal its lampard who didnt tracked back initially . After that the cross and shot blocked and goal. If cfc want to win anything at all we must end this lampard charade. I know he is great to us in the past but cfc must hold firm and tell him to pack his bags in the summer or better if he goes next month.This guy even dont accept it he has declined. He still wants a 2 year 150K deal just bcz he played well for us in the past and yet he asks for assurances about being a starter. Its not just lampard is poor With him in the team pivot we are a disaster. Well As for RAFA what can i say Disaster was expected of him. He is going to deliver disaster for us. RA is to blame here for appointing rafa. He is not a manager who goes for win. He is a manager who goes for 0-0. If you win the game then good or else draw the match.. All i hope is we crash out of league cup and f.a cup as quickly as possible. Then only our idiotic board and impatient owner will learn the lesson and appoint somebody who knows football to run the club. All i want from this season is a top 4 finish. Nothing else. I want us to crash out of FA cup and league cups also in the next round. There i said it. I WANT CFC TO FAIL this season then only our board will come to their senses and allow the club to build properly. I am happy to take this seasons failure if it means we build the club properly from top to bottom.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@Desmondadonis Our problems are not just finished with the pitch and some players. ITs the gross mismanagement of the club is going to bite us in the a$$ sooner or later. You cannot keep on throwing money and try to solve every pblm in a quick fix. There is no plan there is coherent action from anybody at the club.. For gods sake we just need to look at city. Manchini is a average manager at best yet they know in city that you cant sack the manager for the sake of sacking. RA sacked RDM with out any plan and with out any thought now we are with RAFA who dont give a $hit about cfc. I WANT US TO FAIL THIS YEAR in all the competitions also except finishing in top 4. That is the only way i think our board and RA will learn.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@blueandwhitearmy, I agree that our board are mismanaging chelsea and are partly to blame for our downward spiral, as I said almost a month ago in one of the articles in here, I see city surpassing our feats in 5 years from now if we don't get our acts together, see the guys they have in their board, experienced men, they have two ex barca top board members/officials now in their club, but we have buck,gourlay who knows nothing about football except finance and an inexperienced emenalo who is only good at signing and unearthing some talented players, I say we bring in hiddink and perhaps an ex experienced chelsea player like ray wilkins or desailly on our board
Desmondadonis
@Desmondadonis CFC are not being run like a professional club. RA running it like a political party. Everyone with a hidden agenda. Players, board,scouts. Everything is politics around CFC. Even though Emenalo did a good job by buying good players yet it still begs the question will he get the job in a club like UTD BARCA RM with his no exp at all in the scouting field? Only way RA and the board is going to change is by FAILURE. TOTAL FAILURE. I thought last year we are going to PAY finally but RDM steadied the ship and won 2 trophies. Even after that RA didnt gave him the chance he deserves to finish even 6 month in the job. WE call this as s swift management. If total failure this season will move us towards to go back to basics and build the club from top to bottom then i will be happy. I hope leeds win the next match and be done with it. Meet Utd in the fa cup and go out then concentrate solely in the league and get 3rd or 4th.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Ess...dabison, while the team couldn't keep the ball on the ground, wtf is Hazard expected to do?
zosBlue
the fat one got it wrong...i miss rdm...i miss drogba...this is going to be one tough year...feck feck feck.....
Gian-Franco/Luca
why do we always find it too difficult to pass the ball out of our own box?....why does Cech have to hoof the ball out all the time while we all know none of our front four are capable of winning aerial battle?....its depressing to see poor teams having the nerve to press our central midfielders in our half of the pitch.
zosBlue
Gian-franco, sir, neither of drogba or rdm could fix our problem. These are new days and new problems. We need to have the quality to hold on to the ball and keep it on the ground.
zosBlue
Fact: both times an English team lost to a Brazilian team in the CWC final, Benitez was in charge.
nelyvanile
Let's get a grip lads, we lost the game and it's gone. Now is about trying to find the positives, namely that we did create chances (that weren't scored sadly) meaning that Rafa got the team right (so-so) we just didn't take the chances we created. That said, we need a "starting" #9 who can exploit all the chances we create, and we need some1 who can help instill that fear we had when Drogba was here 9even if he was awol about 60% of the games last season) I can only see Falcao do that. It's pointless buying a "prospect" to be a starter because we can't afford to experiment now, sad but true
@Mq
I believe all these "problems" about leadership @ board level, player purchases etc would be solved if Roman got the Manager he "wants" the 1 who can tell him without fear of reprimand or sacking, and currently only Pep commands that. Getting any other Manager will always lead to this predicament where players are bought without consultation. Think about it, who would you cede "power" to between the gal you been wanting basically all your life or some1 you met and "like" but still have the former gal in mind?? It's the same with Roman lads, he is human after all (although still filthy rich and with his spending, he can just about do what he wants)
@Mq
meen..right now falcao ticks all the boxes...but thats loads of cash...better if we can offload FT9 but i dont see anybody taking on a liability...God help us..
layorh12
There was no positive about this performance, Mq. Corenthias is a poor team. Rafa got his team selection all wrong and we did NOT create that many chances to be proud of. Why Lampard? Why bench Oscar? (Oscar has been looking forward to this competition right from the start of the season, I'm gutted for him)
zosBlue
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IIIIIIITTTTTTTTTsSSSSSSSSSSSSS. STFU!!!!!!! All Yall. I REALLY DONT GET IT,I DONT GET IT,THE BLAMING OF LAMPARD,LAMPARD WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THREE IF IT WAS DROGBA. ITS LIKE FV AND CO HAS INFESTED THIS SITE WITH LAMPARD HATRED,I REALLY DONT GET IT MEN,MATA WAS ABYSMAL,HAZARD WAS APPALLING,AND TORRES WAS A DISASTER BUT STILL YOU ARE BLAMING LAMPARD FOR THE LOSS.ITS OVER,I THINK I WILL DELETE ACCOUNT FROM THIS SITE.
11bandwagon
@humza its certain u don't understand english, 4 me 2 say they are better than us means that anytime we meet them, they will continue 2 beat and dominate us. (simply bcos they play in south america doesnt mean that if they were 2 meet they d teams in epl, they wont win. They are just not credited 4 all their success) . Now unless we did not watch d same match (i stopped watching immediately they scored cos the result was already glearing) u wuld disagree with that notion. And u stating that we are d 3rd best in epl and 7th in d world is so out of point, obviously u are talking like a typical chelsea fan.
don delsy
THREE ASSISTS.
11bandwagon
@11bandwagon...that was so funny...hopefully you dont delete your account...if you have views simply state them and back them up with facts...this is football forum..I am sure you can channel your emotions better...afterall its the club we are all crazy about even though we seem to have incredibly differing opinions...no need for so much bad words...you can state your points without them...and trust me you'll sound a whole lot better...i am still laughing...
layorh12
bandwagon, good riddance.
zosBlue
Having been with this site in the times when we used to laud Lamps, i feel sad to see the disgraceful language directed at him the last few months. For 2 reasons : (a) he has busted his guts for us & given us faithful service & many great moments over the years, and only ungrateful sods would forget that (b) it is not his fault if the manager picks him
ZeeNut
I can't really stop laughing too layorh, the man is obviously frustrated, well who wouldn't be? I don't even know why I am not as angry about losing out as I use to, since the westham game, I just ate up my expectations and prayed for the best, firing rafa won't solve the problem, beef up the squad and see what he'll do before we go all out to blame him, or is rdm still to blame? Perhaps malouda too,ROTFLMAO
Desmondadonis
OMG, Mikel did not play 1minute of this game against Corinthians and he has 90 mentions here. Ridiculous! I have to say. So how many mentions will the guys who played gets. If i am to be honest, we should sell Mikel and let him go to a club who respects and appreciate him. Chelsea supporter are not good enough for him. we are pathetic in our reasoning at least 70% of us. @Latunvic said he would play Lampard in his honour...WTF does that mean? RB is a coward, a sham. I know he does not like Mikel and he has plans to bench him. but at least, play the better player for the game.
teepie
When i saw the line up and Mikel, Oscar were excluded, i went to the beach. i already knew what was going to happen...
teepie
You guys should take it easy with the bitching..... There would be more results to bitch about in the coming days so why use up all your bitching ammunitions now. I am a very optimistic person but am also a realist. I see chelsea surviving the leeds game with the squad returning on tuesday tired, disappointed and jetjagged. Infact i fear leeds might give us a trashing lesson.
Chelz Akamz
You guys should take it easy with the bitching..... There would be more results to bitch about in the coming days so why use up all your bitching ammunitions now. Lol. I am a very optimistic person but am also a realist. I see chelsea surviving the leeds game with the squad returning on tuesday tired, disappointed and jetjagged. Infact i fear leeds might give us a trashing lesson.
Chelz Akamz
*I cant see chelsea surviving the leeds game....
Chelz Akamz
not sure if anyone noticed, but Falcao scored a goal against Barcelona from what was his 3rd great chance. That means that he missed his first two chances. Not saying anything else...
zg2000fs
@Desmond..i guess with chelsea, its soo easy to get soo frustrated especially at this time what can we do?.....how are you feeling buddy?...sorry i am bit late...@chelz soo funny...'ll heed your advice and divide my bitching over the remaining course of the season...so i can have somthing to dish out...whenever Tubby does it again...I think Mikel is gointa have a very very rough six months..plenty bench roles...
layorh12
@Desmond...you just made my day..its crazy i am behind my laptop laffing alone..what a good way to start my work leave...the malouda bit is sooo hilarious....looooooooooooool
layorh12
Zg2000fs Falcao's third chance? All the chances Falcao had including the goal were half chance which Torres or many other strikers won't even get to, apart from the header that clip the bar the other two where show of share strength, great pace and clinical finish the one that went over the bar was just share luck which even Messi can lose, so what are you talking about.
sojofjand
Stunning Story...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2249267/Barcelona-want-Chelsea-keeper-Thibaut-Courtois.html..........i will be very disappointed if anything happens like this....:-(
Blu_run
if lamapsrd is not in the future plans then why the hell you play him....he is useless now along with lady torres....and our joker gafa tought he is a genius by putting lmps in starting line up...fecking idiot he is...chelsea has now become a mid table team and if it goes on further soon we will be competing with newcastle everton for europa cup...
shlok27
In Jan, we need either Falcao (48m) or Villa (12-13m). For Midfield, buy a CDM and recall KDB (will provide cover for Moses also). This is will be enough to secure top 4. The only silverware possible is Capital cup (given the other 3 who have qualified for SF) but even that looks bleak now given our current form.
Blu_run
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2249066/Lucas-Piazon-blasts-Chelsea-teammates-Club-World-Cup-disappointment.html
ZeeNut
to have a striker like torres is to put one's hand on a self destruct button permanently throughout a season. the whole club ( players, coaches, management etc) have been totally changed for him yet this joker cannot deliver, going thru the comments on the site; one thing was obviously very clear. Had Torres put away those two chances he had, or even one, the story would have been different. I believed starting lampard in the pivot makes sense because Moses way playing and the idea was for lampard to strecth the and open up spaces for our attackers to manipulate. He should however have been substituted for mikel to accomodate Ramires' runs or Marin brought in for him. playing him after we conceded was plain idiocy as he did not contribute anything to the attcking impetus of the team except we where to revert to a 4-3-3 formation. the coach blew this today
Dwonder
zosBlue...well if you read my comments on him you would know why I called him poor. Whenever he had the opportunity yesterday to run at their full back he rarely did, and he cuts in way to much making us narrow; not being able to stretch their defence. If you think the defence actually feared him yesterday then you have no football nous. He played infront of their defence all game not worrying them one bit and not just in this game but the majority of games this season!
Ess...DaBison
Zeenut - The issues with particular players are such that the coach/manager (Tubby) uses them in a position that they are not either willing to accept or not suited for the position to begin with. No one is bashing Lampard, personally, but is is really not suited for the pivot...Tubby places him in the pivot and then he acts like a #10 encroaching on Mata and finds himself goal side of Ramires...which is defensively out of position...THAT is the frustration is that neither Tubby forces him to play the position correctly or that Lampard will do it on his own..Lampard want's to be the #10 and he appears selfish has he won't except the passer/playmaker pivot role. Then he forces Ramires/Mikel to distribute the ball...which they, simply, are not capable to do...THUS, the frustration...Why not just put Lampard in the #10 role to begin with...If Mata is having a poor day? Then, Tubby could put Oscar in the pivot with Lampard in the #10 role....Jeezz this is not complicated.. IMO Tubbys not getting the right players in the right position. Why is not Josh McEachran not playing the passer/playmaker position in the pivot as that IS his best position. He is an excellent passer with BOTH feet and distributes the ball with speed and pace...Sure he is young but what the hell he can't be any worse that what plays in the pivot now...This decision (along with KDB) really shows me that the board/manager or whom ever calls the shots on loans etc., really got this one wrong and should be held accountable. Furthermore, why would you purchase Marin and never play him? Well someone thought that he was a bargin but didn't ask the manager...Stupid....waste of money...So lots of issues at Chelsea which start at the top all the way throughout the organization....
lamarochs
@lamarochs....you are making sense...now theese are the issues which dyou have highlighted...in Lampard's case...it will be best for both parties if he leaves the club honestly...because he can play as an AM in another team (he is still a good player) and we are better off without him because he has refused or cannot sim ply evolve into an all round ball passer in the pivot who is not really concerned about scoring...Lampard not being offered a new contract by chelsea....good decision IMO...he has given us a lot together with the other legends and will forever be remembered. Drogba has left chelsea...but do fans think less of him..? hell no...so Lampard can move on with his reputation intact....6 more months and we'll be free....enough said
layorh12
To put some perspective: 25 Messi's league goals this term - the same as Ronaldo, Benzema, Higuain & Morata combined. (Mourinho what??) Falcao has 20
@Mq
if we are to see mata, hazard and oscar at their best and chelsea reach the promised land? Then we need to have some one in the midfield that can put the ball at their feet, one who doesn't smash it on their ankle like mikel does or hoof it above their head like most of our defenders. Some one who can pass the ball with an optimized power and tempo, we need to start getting 60% possession or more. A CM who's calm under pressure and makes simple passes.
zosBlue
zosBlue, that's a nice player you have there you're describing there, but where is he?
foreign_viewer
zosBlue, that's a nice player you have there you're describing there, but where is he?
foreign_viewer
Mikel has great pass completion, and he doesn't shoot the ball when he passes. He is one of our better passers actually.
zg2000fs
@zosblue sounds to me a little like a certain Mr Luiz
Blue_Mel
Quite evident that Benithez has 0% confidence in building from the back (i.e. not instructing to Cech to boot the ball up only to lose possession from the ensuing header). Wonder why the feck that is? Could it possibly be we have *****e at midfield when Rammy is paired up w/ Frank? FFS man. We're not exactly gifted in height now wtf is Benithez doing? Which begs the question whytf he would select such a *****e midfield if we would only lump it up on every gk. Hate that type of footy, relying more on luck and a lucky bounce than actual skill to pass our way through. Oh wait..
ForeverChels
i.e. instructing*
ForeverChels
And these backpasses are right *****ing me off. everyone is breaking forward, hmmm, nah, ill just kick it to Cahill who will see the finger pointing at Cech, passes it back, Cech gives the ball a gentle tap then lumps it upfield, other team wins header and now we're under pressure. And don't tell me for one second we were playing on the counter to justify Cech launching it into outer space bc 80% of our team lacked any impetus to close down the ball and catch them on the break.
ForeverChels
 

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2. Aston Villa 0 0 0 0 0 0
3. Burnley 0 0 0 0 0 0
4. Chelsea 0 0 0 0 0 0
5. Crystal Palace 0 0 0 0 0 0
6. Everton 0 0 0 0 0 0
7. Hull City 0 0 0 0 0 0

Breaking League News

Swindon Was Okay - Koeman
» Southampton : 22/07/2014 19:55:00
Forster Offer Rejected?
» Southampton : 22/07/2014 19:48:00
Hunt Completes Forest Move
» Crystal Palace : 22/07/2014 19:38:00
Campana Departs Selhurst
» Crystal Palace : 22/07/2014 19:35:00
Stoke secure marquee Bojan signing
» Stoke : 22/07/2014 18:47:00

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