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Everton 1 Chelsea 2

Frank Lampard produced a captain's performance netting a double to surely remind Roman Abramovich that he might have to re-think the club's policy of only giving one-year contract extensions to anyone over 30.

And Rafa Benitez seems to be doing everything right. Even the most blinkered of Chelsea fans can see how much we've improved under him. Let's not underpin the task for Chelsea yesterday - Everton away is no easy game. This was surely a test of Rafa and the Chelsea players to find out if we could be considered a title contenders. Indeed, it was a must win game if we were to retain any hope of being up there come what May, and it couldn't have got off to a worse start.

With only a minute played, Leon Osman brushed Hazard off the ball, and played it through to Jagielka who's cross was met by Anichebe at the back post. His header hit the post and Pienaar was on hand to smash the rebound past Cech. The Evertonians couldn't have wished for a better start.

But Chelsea are more solid under Benitez these days and after surviving Everton pressure for the first 25 odd minutes, the away team started to creep into the game. Chelsea had a chance with 27 minutes on the clock after fine work from Ramires. His barnstorming run through the centre left Heitinga chasing his shadow. Our athletic midfielder shot low but Howard saved it well and while still on the ground effectively stopped Mata's attempt to score from the rebound.

Six minutes later, a brilliant move from Chelsea with Mata the hub. He used space on the right by beating two men with a one-two with David Luiz (again handed a midfield role), then nudged it to Torres who turned it round the corner where Mata had got to the right byline. His cross darted right across goal, just eluding Hazard at the near post and missed Cole's outstretched boot at the back post by a gnat's pube.

It was turning into a very open game, and just three minutes later, Cech had to be at his best when Pienaar playing a glorious crossfield 40 yard pass straight into the run of Jelavic. He hit a sharp shot across Cech from left to right, the Czech keeper finger-tipped it behind.

Still 1-0 to Everton as the half matured, but Chelsea were to level just before the break when Torres (who was stupidly being booed by the home fans) used his tenacity on the right touchline where he chased a seemingly lost cause, stopped the ball going out, tapped it to Ramires who dug out his cross while falling backwards and Lampard leapt to steer it with his head past Howard in the Everton goal.

Half time - one a piece. Everton much the better side for the first 25-30 mins, but Chelsea were level going in to the dressing room for their cup of tea and orange segments.

Ross Turnbull skipped out for the second half after Cech was complaining on a niggle going down the tunnel after the first period, so Rafa made the switch to protect our no.1 keeper.

The second half didn't start with as much fizz as the first, but on 66 minutes, an excellent combination from Cole, having intercepted a pass to Naismith, and Hazard let the Belgian go on a mazy run up the field from the left before tapping it to Mata. He rolled it to back to Cole to give him the space whip in his cross, but Everton again cleared well from a good cross and an excellent build up. Moments later Torres worked an opening on his right with a half-turn and shimmy, clipping a shot the excellent Howard turned away.

Just after 3pm, with nearly 70 minutes played, Osman squirmed his way through the middle, spotted a gap between Cahill and Cole and rifled in a low shot that Turnbull parried away. Baines then chipped a glorious near-post cross that Jelavic arched his neck to head over Turnbull and … straight onto the bar. A close call, but still one apiece.

And then two minutes later, Super Frank was at the double when again (how many times have we said this in his career), he was in the right place at the right time. Good work from Mata set up a cross for Hazard to knock it back across goal and Lampard did the rest and stuck it high into the net. 2-1 Chelsea. Get in.

Chelsea had a chance to make it three when breaking three on two in the first minute of extra time. Torres shifted it to the right of the penalty area to shoot and Distin made a great tackle to thwart Torres of yet another goal this season.

Howard Webb then blew for full time and it was Chelsea who took a superb three points in what was an extremely difficult fixture.

Despite all the protests about Rafa, he really does seem to be turning things around doesn't he?

Teams:

Everton: Howard, Jagielka, Heitinga, Distin, Baines, Naismith,
Osman, Hitzlsperger, Pienaar, Anichebe, Jelavic.
Subs: Mucha, Oviedo, Gueye, Barkley, Vellios, Duffy, Browning.

Chelsea: Cech, Azpilicueta, Ivanovic, Cahill, Cole, Ramires,
Luiz, Lampard, Mata, Torres, Hazard.
Subs: Turnbull, Oscar, Moses, Ferreira, Marin, Piazon, Ake.

Ref: Webb




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Date:Monday December 31 2012

Time: 2:31AM

Your Comments

Yh...nice game there,we ll be unstoppable when we sign Demba ba,Taison and a defender/midfielder(depending on where the club decides to settle luiz) Up CFC
Hazard11
good game. We had to dig in for this victory. Formation changes by rafa midway in to 1st half show his tactical wisdom. Leadership on and off the field by the player and manager clearly showed in this game. It was not beautiful But rather a brawl which suited the everton. We need physical options in the team to counter teams like everton stoke etc.
Blue India
It was a good way to end 2012,QPR is next and let hope we win the match,who knows what happens come may '13
blue5
Great ain. Once again done the hard "ugly " way but three points all the same. Well done to Rafa, Lamps and to Mata as well as Cahill and Iva who were the stand out performers for me. Now all i can hope is that Cech makes a quick recovery before Wednesday!!!
GabeU
sorry for the typo..meant to say Great "win" not "ain"
GabeU
I hope we smash seven shades of Spur out of QPR
ForeverChels
I haven't been this happy about a win since we defeated spurs. Now, I'm starting to feel good about the season.
zosBlue
Djdutts hw's merlin? Hope he's recoverin. My get-well-soon wishes to him. A great win too
prince china
Lampard offered new contract : http://www.isportstimes.com/articles/4978/20121231/chelsea-transfer-news-frank-lampard-confirms-talks.htm
ZeeNut
prince china - I'm sure he's ok, maybe a touch of man flu, he'll be back soon enough!
djdutts
give lampard new contract and play him as CF . right time, right place.
JackSufre
After calmly watching the game second time in the morning i came to the conclusion that lot of our fans has lost the ability to praise a player like LUIZ. After 2 yrs of newspaper lies lot of our fans are not involuntarily bashing LUIZ even after a great performance. FL may hav scored the 2 goals that won us the game but he was pretty much anonymous for the entire match other than that goals. LUIZ is the man of the match for me yesterday. After the first 15 mins HE WAS LIKE A ONE MAN MIDFIELD. He has gone toe to toe with each and every everton player. We need that kind of player who will up his physical side of the game if the opposition is a physical side like Everton stoke etc. All these useless bashing of LUIZ as a defender and now as a midfielder begs the question ARE we treating LUIZ the way RM treated Makelele? For gods sake Luiz is a technically superior ball playing CB in the world with Hummels etc. Now in midfield he is playing flawlessly yet lot of pathetic fans are still bashing LUIZ. Pathetic Pathetic. If it wasnt for LUIZ we must have LOST the match in the margin of 3-0 or 4-0.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Having a blanket policy with no recourse is just plain stupid. Many great players have played well into their 30's ~ like all the wise and best our policy should be based on merit not the whims of bureaucrats applying a policy whch should be a guide not a law. Imbeciles.
Pantisocrates
2) FL- He scored 2 goals and got us 3 important points but played really really poor other than that.. If our fans thinks that it warrants a 2 year 150K salary then i dont know what to say. The comparision will come always about how much he will earn in china or u.s.a. So he and his reps will push for that salary from chelsea 150K+ But sadly its not at all possible to even give him a one year 150K. MATA is on the 70K/W Most of the younger superior players than him at our squad is not earning even half of what he is making. FFP Lot of our fans still dont get it they are just want to give 2 yr 3 yr contract with out any thoughts. CFC is moving the high earners from their wage bill for a reason BCZ CFC is not able to sustain the WAGE BILL in the region of 185M anymore. So they are doing what is necessary to compile with FFP. Also mind you guys we are out of CL group stage this year. Last year we got almost 60M in price money tv revenue from it but this year we will receive only 20 to 25M and not to mention the lot of commercial and match day income from the CL.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Lamps has 1 skill to be "proud" of, being in front of goal to score. He did absolutely zilch yesterday but his 2 goals were due to his teammates hard work, now whether that deserves earning more than 100K/week or not is entirely subjective, but for me it makes absolutely no sense to pay a squad player anything above or near 100K/week, and if that's what Lamps wants then he can and should leave
@Mq
Success is best attained when emotions are restrained
@Mq
I concur 100% with BLUEANDWHITE, there's no reason why we should pay over the odds for Lamps, especially as goals-aside he been pretty awful. People talk about how many games we've won or not lost with Lamps playing, negating the number of points we've dropped over the last few years with the so-called "legends" playing. I'm not saying Lamps is past it, but if we paying BETTER players like Mata, Oscar half that then surely retaining him will upset the balance of the team
@Mq
Sturridge was derided for being a "poacher" by pretty much the same ppl praising Lamps who did nothing all game but pick scraps from people's hard work, I can assure you if we had Falcao or some1 like, Lamps wouldn't have scored those goals but the striker (which we don't have right now) so to pay some1 100K+ just for goal poaching every now and then is ludicrous, especially if and when we get Demba Ba
@Mq
3)Even though we won trophies regularly in RA era Like most football people will understand well there is a unwritten rule in football that a GREAT side will only maintain for a period of 3 to 5 yrs. But we are still not moved to the second phase after 2004. We must move in the new direction this summer if we want to be successful. Also the constant upheaval of managers is affecting the performance also guys. We won only 1 PL title in the past 7 yrs. That title is also won by a single point by CA. If CFC is not careful in evaluating the true reasons for our failures in the league then i cant see us winning the league for another 2 yrs. Even though i dont like RAFA for a single bit still he is a good manager nonetheless.. If RA and the board has any brain they should give serious thought of appointing RAFA as permanent and give him the tools and resources than running behind PEP. PEP is a good manager If CFC decides to appoint PEP then write off the first 2 yrs until he learns fully about EPL and define the philosophy of the club from top to bottom. The point is Any good manager will do really well at CFC if he is given time and resources barring RA and his gifts.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Its laughable when i read some comments. So how many of our players played their best yesterday? Mata wasn't at his creative best,Piennar ran the show on Luiz as he got pressed and dispossessed quite often, Rami was uncomfortable on the wings,Hazard looked fatigued,Everton were the better side for large period of the game and could have put the game to rest in the 1st 30 mins as we got overpowered in midfield. Our defender stood strong and big shout outs to Cahill and Iva. Games like this,when the opposition seem to be playing 'high pressing',and running us ragged with sheer strength,and most of our players are not at their top best is when you need a leader to step up. Super Frank stepped up to the plate and delivered us that win. Similar to the Norwich game when we were having troubles breaking them down,took an individual brilliance from Mata even though he wasn't having a good game. Up the Chels
nelyvanile
...ou need a leader to step up. Super Frank stepped up to the plate and delivered us that win....2 poached goals and you call that stepping up?? *smh*
@Mq
the first goal perhaps had effort (header) but the 2nd, a rebound and you call that stepping up?? *smh
@Mq
I have not seen anyone as yet support signing him for a 150K per week salary, friends. Most people writing in his defence are only saying - stop denigrating & cursing a club legend. If he goes, Chelsea will continue to survive & thrive, with our excellent new signings. But PLEASE STOP abusing a Chelsea legend.
ZeeNut
People should get the facts right on Demba Ba before spouting rubbish as usual. He is on guaranteed 20k a week plus a further 20k depending on appearances. Chelsea will double the current pay to guaranteed 40k and another 40k dependent on appearances. To say the club is paying him 100k is false. If I am also correct, Demba Ba has continuously ranked top 4 whenever he has played in the CF position; will cost only 7.5mm and on 40k guaranteed. Only if he benches Torres, does he earn 80k a week. The only way he benches Torres is if he is scoring goals. Are people questioning the logic behind signing a goal scorer like Demba Ba? Isn't Falcao a goal poacher with great finishing too, but will cost 50mm and a 100k plus, albeit a different league than Demba?
KAKUfrank
so happy with the three points. Lampard and Luiz in midfield is the right way to go. I was hoping we play Ramires and Mikel and sit back, hope we dont lose and when i saw the line-up Rafa put out i felt he was going for it. Then we conceded in just over a minute and i thought ***** it, another loss. But Luiz and Lampard offer so much more in midfield. We dug ourselves out of a hole here. Without lampard we wouldnt have scored today. Without Luiz we wouldnt have kept it to 1 goal. Yes he makes a few silly tackles but he wants it. He has to play every game. If he was in midfield against West Ham we would not have lost that second half. If he was in midfield against Shakthar and Juventus we may not have been outplayed - not talking about the result. And New contract for lampard. Right now. Plus Demba Ba - if he joins - will be a fantastic signing at the price. Superb striker.
Mia Maynard
@kakufrank : is it true we are offering him a 5 year contract? how reliable are the sources? i'm delighted about this signing but i don't think Ba's knees will hold up for 5 more years.
blus4eva
As far as Demba's injuries, how many times has he gotten injured since West Ham or had any operations plus Torres is a living testimony of injury plagued players improving at CFC except exceptional injuries
KAKUfrank
Yes,we won yesterday even though we didnt play well and i'm happy we won.what gave me concern was the fact that Luiz and Lampard were overan by osman and hitzspelger.what if gibson and fellaini had played?yes,lampard poached in 2 goals,did he win his midfield battle?no.And luiz was going into rash challenges though i think he helped lampard a lot in the midfield.the question is,will it be reasonable to offer a 35-yr old player who earns 150k pounds per wk another contract?if madrid could release Raul and chelsea could release Drogba and Ballack,so why is everybody thinking releasing Lampard would mean the end of the world for chelsea?is he going to play for CFC for life?hell no.so,my own view is that he should be offered a year contract if and only if he's going to accept a pay cut which i know frank won't take.
obimikelisdbest
Sky Sources: Demba Ba's representatives do not expect him to join Chelsea after unproductive meeting & will now begin talks with other clubs
blus4eva
haha....the lamps worshipper are back again.......waste of money and space if we give him a contract.....and about his leadership...yaa we saw it .going in the media talking about his contract issue that how chelsea is treating him..if he plays one good match then he goes to media and cry about his contract issue that how he love chelsea.. otherwise you dont see him at all if we plays bad match which he plays regulary..if you call this a leadership....then sorry we dont need this at chelsea....why should we bench player like oscar moses josh and kdb in future for a player who wont contribute at all.....
shlok27
3.5 years is the offer. He has 18 months left. 3.5 plus 18 makes it 5 years.
KAKUfrank
Lampard haters are also back again
Gaban
not lampard hater....chelsea loverrrr....who think about cfc first....and then about the players....players will come and go but the club will remain the same....
shlok27
Can you guys leave frank Lampard alone? The fella just helped us win 3 vital points, not Benitez's tactics. Pure grit, character and determination. His fate with Chelsea will be determined at the end of the season. What will be will be. He is a legend, consummate professional, chelsea blue and thru. Definitely more than the whiners on here. He won us the game yrsterday and we should be glad and respectful. Leave lamps and his contract issue aside. He won us the bloody game. He deserves a bit of respect for that at least.
KAKUfrank
we started with 4-3-3 initially, with Mata on right side..it was not working..so, RB moved back to his old 4231 with Luiz partnered with Lamps, Mata moving centrally and ramires to right wing...even then everton pressed for another 10 miins...thats all...after 25-30 mins, chelsea came back to control and started to play much better....this game clearly showed us one thing...LUIZ is not a DM person...he is very good at pivot, but not as a holding person...he needs one to sit alongside him...if he is partnered with Ramires or Oscar, it can be hugely successful..maybe a template for brazil to follow :-)
Blu_run
again people talking about Lamps contract..I strictly dont want him at chelsea from next yr..the best that chelsea can do it to offer him a 1 yr contract with much reduced pay, which lamps will reject as he have much better contracts somewhere else.
Blu_run
If Lamps, Cole moves this summer, I will not be disappointed...If cole finalises his next club this jan, play him only in big PL games..for other cup games, PL game against bottom 10 sides, Europa league, play Bertrand consistently....he will be the 1st choice next yr...
Blu_run
I 2nd KakuFrank absolutely. Lampard deserves some respect from VitalChelsea fans. Wether he gets a contract or not is secondary, but the abuse is just not correct. I am not a Lampard "worshipper" by any stretch of imagination, yet i feel constrained to defend him seeing the hate messages. shlok27, there is a differenec between fans respecting a great club legend & "worshipping" him - please do not denigrate those of us who object to the abuse you people are dishing out.
ZeeNut
Ba in talks with QPR after chelsea moves stalls, i guess he dont know the meaning of QPR - Quater Pound of Rubbish (sorry) , Quite Probably Relegated.
11bandwagon
We were lucky to get three points as we could have lost 2-3 had Everton been sharper. If Lampard leaves, who will score against these stubborn team?
1970Blue
Ray Wilkins believes Sir Alex Ferguson should spring a transfer window surprise and sign Frank Lampard . The England midfielder will be allowed to leave Chelsea on a free transfer, either in January or at the end of the season, and former Blues assistant manager Wilkins is adamant the 34-year-old could do a job for Fergie’s title chasers. Lampard proved his class once again in the 2-1 win over Everton at Goodison Park on Sunday afternoon, scoring both his side’s goals, but it’s been made clear by the club’s senior management he has no future at Stamford Bridge. This is the club’s decision to let him go – it’s nothing to do with Rafa Benitez - and in my opinion it’s the wrong decision — Ray Wilkins And Wilkins insists it will be a mistake to discard him. “He was fantastic [against Everton], wasn’t he?” Wilkins said on the AlanBrazil Sports Breakfast. “In the 13 games he’s played, he’s got six goals already. “This is the club’s decision to let him go – it’s nothing to do with Rafa Benitez - and in my opinion it’s the wrong decision. You need these older players to show the youngsters what it means to play for Chelsea.” But Wilkins feels Chelsea’s loss could be United’s gain. He added: “He’ll cost nothing, he’s about four years younger than Giggs and Scholes and he scores goals from midfield. He’s scored more goals this year than Carrick, Cleverley and Scholes combined. “He’s comfortably got two or three more seasons in him. He won’t play 90 minutes every week but if he starts 20 games for Man United he’ll score them seven goals.”
11bandwagon
Fans still asking why Ray Wilkins was sacked by the board?
RayBell
zeenut...no one is abusing him but the way he has been potrait here at vc if he plays one good match is too much...the problem there are so many of them here who makes him look bigger than the club if he plays good in one or two match.....people are saying who will win matches for us if lamps doesnt score....the first 7-8 match its was hazard individual brilliance which we won most of it...the next most of it was all of mata brilliance...so dont say that without lamps we cannot score or win...you cant keep a player on the bases of one or two good performance...for me he was a great player but today he is not the same player he used to be....we need to move forward rather than going backward with all those records and legend status crap talk....those talk wont win us title in future...
shlok27
@11bandwagon Wilkins is talking rubbish mate. FL cant sign a contract with any club in england before the summer but he can do so if the club is outside of england ie, PSG. Also i dont think FL is moving this january. He will be released like DD in the summer.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Luiz was man of the match,let him stay in mid forever.he made lampard look good
joshuaoscar
Luiz was man of the match,let him stay in mid forever.he made lampard look good
joshuaoscar
Very good result, but the way we got it was rather flattering. We need to work on the short period between winning back the ball and getting it under control. We often lost possession immediately after winning it and/or after long balls from Cech.
ElMagicoNino
lamps has experience,winning mentality,can score from midfield,leadership,cfc through and through.he would also be invaluable in high pressure scenario.that is good enough for me but cfc have a policy here to mould a new team and unfortunately drogba,lamps,terry,cole would all be affected by it.i also think that after avb experience roman is trying to get rid of the players who have too much power in the dressing room.
blueskywalker
I really don't understand why some people on here support Chelsea. I am Torres biggest critic but if he scores 2 goals to win us a game I give him credit. (Don't think he's ever done that though!!) Frank Lampard put in a sensational performance yesterday and dragged a Chelsea team who were at sixes and sevens for the first 30 minutes to turn the game on its head and beat a top Everton team who have not lost at home since March. Do you people understand leadership? If scoring was easy Torres would have 50 goals a season. Okay Everton could have won, but how many times over the years have we watched Man Utd somehow win at Villa or Everton or Newcastle and we've thought "how the hell did they win that game" it's all about character and taking your chances and that's what Frank Lampard has and does. Legend till the end!
CobhamBlue
joshuaoscar, Lamps made Luiz look good, because without his goals all anyone in the press would be talking about was how Everton played Chelsea off the park in the first half.
CobhamBlue
I still think we need lamps for the sake of the new kids. On the big occasion they cant see out a football game at the moment. I look at the swansea, west ham and west brom games and what was lacking was the experience to see the game out. Without Lamps we wouldn't have scored yesterday and if we did all the evidence is there to suggest we wouldn't have seen the game out and probably would have conceded more. All the pundits were also and have always been praising lamps for the last couple of months and fergie was interested in the summer (he knows lamps value). For some fans who think they know better than fergie bemuses me. without players like frank and JT we'll just be another arsenal...inconsistent, never win anything!
Ess...DaBison
Look at arsenal... Players like Viera, Pires, Bergkamp (core players) leave and arsenal fail to win a trophy again!
Ess...DaBison
Yes we have talented youth but they are not ready to take over the responsibility just yet. They need someone to look to when things aren't going their way. They need much more football under their belt.
Ess...DaBison
@blueandwhite and @joshuaoscar,i also think luiz did good in the midfield,he had a massive game and was the only fella in the middle who match everton's physical play but unfortunately he is not gettin the credit he deserves here..ivanovic and cahill were also solid,the where equal to everything everton threw at them.the pair are our unsung heroes...legend frank was anonymous 4 most of the game but was our match winner,gave us all 3points and made ma day and i must say a very big THANK YOU to the dude
Ken4CFC
Lampard doesn't suit the modern passing game.
foreign_viewer
Yes, exactly shlok, the way Lampard being abused or humiliated here at vc is shocking, whether he is doing great or the opposite. These haters would only realise how wrong they are, should Lampard joining the likes of Man Utd, on FREE, and eventually doing the Van Persie act towards Arsenal, to us. Just saying
Gaban
To say Lampard put in a sensational perfomance in midfield is a lie. He was absent in midfield. He did, however, score two importants goals to win the game.
foreign_viewer
No one is saying Lampard put in a sensational performance...but to say any of the other midfielder put in a sensational performance would also be a lie. Other than Ramieres they were all shocking!
Ess...DaBison
What is the modern Passing game? Barca? If so Ramieres, Mikel, Hazard, Moses, Torres....in fact the whole team other than Mata and Oscar don't suite the "modern passing game"
Ess...DaBison
It is actually very funny how competent teams have made the whole team BAD!!!!! Word is Ramires was the only player with a decent game which I agree with to an extent. The problem however is this is a systemic issue with the team. Think about it this way - Atletico Madrid, Juventus, Shakthar, West Brom, West Ham, Everton, and Corinthians have made virtually all our players look poor consistently. Out of all those competent teams that have made us look poor, we've won just Everton which had to do with the grit and character of Frank Lampard. The question now remains - what will we do in the 2nd half of the season since quite frankly, Torres, Mata, Oscar, Hazard and co do not have the character to see out a game.
KAKUfrank
Guys, why are we dragging on this Lampard's matter?...the guy can still offer chelsea somthing quite important especially in matches like yesterday's when we were clearly on the back foot from the start. It does not matter whether he is suited for the modern day passing game or not, the crux is he got the two goals which is massive, what he can do in such scenarios is enough reason to keep him. The least he deserves is for the club to sit down with him and try to negotiate a contract that will be win-win for both parties., if an agreement cant be reached, then that will be a different matter entirely. But to say Lampard should just be released without trying to work out somthing with him (definitely not on the the present contract terms) is naive to say the least!!..I hope the club does the rignt thing
layorh12
what did lamps offer.1st goal was offside ,2nd was rebound.was he a striker or mdflder.common guys there players who can do that mdfld job well than that non creative legend.the board and ra are not stupid.
mzee69
As i have Said so many Times. Some people on here hates Lampard more then they like Chelsea. They might even not like Chelsea Only hating à player who has Scored 192 goals for Chelsea from midfield.
Lakupiippu
@mzee69..sorry to say but your point holds no water and your criticism is not valid...offside or no offside and rebound or no rebound, he takes a player with unique positional sense to be where lampard was for those two goals even though he was supposed to be playing deeper within the pivot...those late runs into the box is one of Lampard's core strengths and he is actually still the best in the league in terms of timing those late runs...we dont have to struggle with it...the guy's still offers somthing both in terms of footballing and non-footballing reasons and for any OBJECTIVE fan, that is very easy to see...the club should sit down with the guy and try to work out something..period!
layorh12
Only Barcelona & Real Madrid scored more goals than Chelsea in 2012. Not bad when you think they have Messi & Ronaldo and we have Torres. If we had a decent centre forward the Premier League would be a one horse race!
CobhamBlue
Some people will know that I've been cryng out for a decent striker for a good two years or more..so bear that in mind when I say that 'I'D RATHER KEEP LAMPARD ANOTHER 2 YEARS THAN GET DENBA BA'...given the choice that is!
mutters
mzee69, I've watched Sky Sports, ESPN, BBC and read reports in most English papers. You seem to be the only one who thinks the first goal was offside.
CobhamBlue
Amazing!! So the positional sense to get in-between Heitinga and Jagielka unnoticed was pure 'luck'(Logic of a clueless fan). If you've watched Lamps for 11 seasons at Chelsea you will understand he thrives on such goals. That's not to say he had an amazing game,but he won us the game,not Rafa's tactical nous.
nelyvanile
1st goal offside?? haha...did you actually watch the game?? that would be the same as saying Ben Fosters goal for Watford against Spurs in 2006 was off-side....its just simply a false and moronic statement!
Ess...DaBison
If lampards goal's is so luck why can't the worlds other central midfielder's score so many goals for their club?
Ess...DaBison
Sky Sports, ESPN, BBC as well as top football pundits and most of the managers in the prem are absolutely shocked that the Lapards situation has been able to get soo far....and some of the fools on here think they know more than the experts by saying otherwise.
Ess...DaBison
David Luiz put in a sensational performance,he was the only midfielder that matched everton physical play
Ken4CFC
A lot of people have good points in this discussion though some opinions are not balanced. The comments I find totally senseless are those abusing Frank.... Let the club decide what is best as regards his contract since a lot of factors are involved, which ever way, he is a legend and truly deserves our love not just respect..... I also think it's wrong to say our win against Everton was all about Lampard and Rafa's tactics has nothing to do with it, it is in fact a ridiculous statement. Whose tactic was it to play Lamps in the first place, whose decision was it to move Luiz away from CB where he is more prone to costly mistake and move him to pivot in the absence of Mikel... I don't know which game some of you watched but the one I watched, Everton controlled just the 1st 20 - 25mins and the game was pretty much balance afterwards, even the stats shows it was a closely even game and yet some of you come here to speak like we were totally dominated by Everton throughout the whole game, I don't know what you guys were expecting... Those of you complaining about Luiz's performance yesterday are just as pathetic as those blindly criticizing Lamp. Luiz wasn't great yesterday but he did a decent job... For me, the only two who I feel had a bad game are Hazard and Torres, Lamps didn't do to much in the control of midfield but his 2 goals covered up, what more can we ask for from him... we switched from 4-3-3 to 4-2-3-1, we won the match, prevented Everton from getting a 2nd goal, inflicted their 1st home defeat after a long run and some of you still believe it had nothing to do with Rafa's tactics and it was all about Lamps goals... I think there are various types of pathetic fans here.... Ridiculously annoying reasoning.....
Latunvic
Ben foster's goal for watford against spurs in 2006?? No ess,i thought it was the otherway round i.e paul robinson's goal for spurs against watford in 2006
Ken4CFC
Well said @latunvic..many folks on here just discredit rafa because of their obvious hatred for him.rafa's tactics was as responsible for the win as lampard's goals
Ken4CFC
Torres always has a bad game against good opposition.
B2K420
Ken4CFC...Sorry mate that's what I meant; babysitting atm and my head is all over the place.

Also I completely disagree, Luiz didn't have a sensational game at all. Some of his passing was complacent, he was caught out of position many times, conceded unnecessary fouls, was out run by lamps at times (as Alan Shearer pointed out)...It was actually the worst I'd seen him play in the middle to date. Yes he was physical but our midfield was dominated yesterday by Leon Osman and Hitzlsperger (who at best are mediocre players - not first choice if Falani is fit). It was only in the second half where they got a little tired (after 65-70mins) where we started to make a few things happen.
Ess...DaBison
Luiz was the only midfielder we had yesterday as lampard was hugely anonymous(barrin his 2 goals),luiz worked his socks off for the team and was covering for lampard who was always ahead of everyone,his passing was not great but it was decent enough,in as much as he conceded unnecessary fouls he also drew unnecessary fouls to himself infact he got pienaar(arguably evertons' motm) booked,luiz hassled and frustrated pienaar leading to his substitution,he matched everton's physical play and they had to switch to wing play in the 2nd half as the centre wasnt condusive for their operation,david luiz is a dominant force in our midfield..the only 3players that played better luiz are ivanovic,cahill and ramires
Ken4CFC
Its harder to come to a conclusion when you watch the game live under pressure so I usually record games to watch the replays win or Loss...So pardon me if I disagree with you that Luiz had a decent game,it actually depends on what you refer to as decent. Piennar who usually plays on the left with baines was placed in AM(tactically for Luiz) to constantly pressure Luiz and he did a great job at that. He was too fast for Luiz to handle as his switch of pace and pass movement left Luiz flat on his back at times. On various occasions Piennar sneaked behind Luiz to launch Everton's attacks (check out Evertons first goal and the initiation of their attack). We had our worst pass completion percentage of the season with 73%,thanks to Everton's consistent pressing. Luiz had his worst game in DM and his toughest since he was deployed to that position. If Pienner was arguably Everton's Man of the match doesn't that say something. Laughable.
nelyvanile
Its harder to come to a conclusion when you watch the game live under pressure so I usually record games to watch the replays win or Loss...So pardon me if I disagree with you that Luiz had a decent game,it actually depends on what you refer to as decent. Piennar who usually plays on the left with baines was placed in AM(tactically for Luiz) to constantly pressure Luiz and he did a great job at that. He was too fast for Luiz to handle as his switch of pace and pass movement left Luiz flat on his back at times. On various occasions Piennar sneaked behind Luiz to launch Everton's attacks (check out Evertons first goal and the initiation of their attack). We had our worst pass completion percentage of the season with 73%,thanks to Everton's consistent pressing. Luiz had his worst game in DM and his toughest since he was deployed to that position. If Pienner was arguably Everton's Man of the match doesn't that say something. Laughable.
nelyvanile
Spot on @Ken4CFC, no one is saying luiz had a sensational or stellar performance but he was decent enough yesterday given the circumstances... it was never gonna be easy on luiz in that game, he was doing the midfield defensive job and also releasing quick forward passes... playing along side Lamp was always gonna make the job even more difficult for him, especially against an everton midfield of four who combined well and worked hard... I don't think Romeu or mikel would have done much better.... We definitely need a more solid DM, my choice is Fernandinho, but Luiz a decent job yesterday....
Latunvic
So apparently switching from 4-3-3 to 4-2-3-1 was brilliant tactical display by Rafa? He was basically correcting his stupid error,which obviously cost us the goal as well...it was obvious from the get go that Everton's strength comes from the flanks with the combo of Baines and Piennar(Baines and Anichebe against us) on 2v1 situations,to put Azpi on the back foot. so why play Mata on the wings to assist Azpi? We should have started with a 4-2-3-1 with Rami assisting Azpi,not until Rafa came to his senses and switched to this did we gain some sense of balance(prior to that we could have been 2-3 goals down already).
nelyvanile
Ken4CFC, Lampard was anonymous apart from 2 goals! That's like saying Drogba had a poor Champions League campaign last season (apart from his goals against Valencia, Bayer Leverkuson, Napoli, Barcelona & Bayern Munich - take away his goals - and winning penalty - and really he contributed nothing!)
CobhamBlue
@nelyvanile spot on. I maintain Luiz had a poor game after watching the game live and then extended highlights on sky as well as MOTD. He was "covering" Lamps yet lost his own position many times, allowing players like Osman to creep in between midfield and defence and get a free shot at goal (any other player we would have been punished). and his passing wasnt decent enough...it was awful and complacent and he was too slow to pick them out (especially in the first half. And it was Ramieres who more frustrated Pienaar than Luiz.
Ess...DaBison
@cobhamblue,we talkin all round performance here not just goals..drogba performed well and influencial in those games,so its not a valid comparism
Ken4CFC
Why was pienaar substituted?? why did everton switch to wing play in the 2nd half?? Yesterday's game was the 1st time baines didnt create a scoring chance in the 1st half this season but he was all over us in the 2nd half when pienaar was moved back to the left(tactically because luiz was a thorn in the centre),luiz hassled and frustrated pienaar and even got him booked.."we had our worst pass completion percentage of the season" how was it luiz fault? Everton consistently pressurized our attackin players and they cheaply gave the ball away,in as much as luiz misplaced some passes,lampard,mata,hazard,torres,cesar,ramires are also culpable for this offence...yea it was luiz was game at dm but he had a better game than mata,hazard,lampard,torres,cesar, and cole..luiz was very mobile,he was our steel in midfield..if pienaar who was deployed to stop him had to be subbed doesnt that say something
Ken4CFC
Ken4CFC, every football pundit who watched the match thought Frank Lampard was the most influential player on the pitch and Chelsea would be crazy to let him go. What do you know that all these ex-pros don't?
CobhamBlue
Come on mate stop contradicting yourself. Piennar wasn't deployed to the wings because he was less influential,he scored playing from AM,and left us ragged in that role. He was deployed because Baines became less influential as the game went on,with Rami and Azpi doubling up on him. Baines have been more influential this season due to his combo with Piennar on the wings. Everton were missing Gibson,Fellani,and Phil Neville in midfield and Piennar was deployed in midfield. So you feel Piennar was subbed because Luiz matched him well,he was pressing for most of the game and got tired as the game went on and had to be subbed.
nelyvanile
Out to spend time with the Missus,Children and inlaws...have a lovely New year guys. Cheers to a great 2013.
nelyvanile
Some of us really have to take off our rafa hatred blinkers because its getin laughable..a man set out a 4-3-3 and it wasnt working,he switched to 4-2-3-1 and it worked.isnt that tactical brilliance?? I bet if its our dear rdm he would have persisted with the same formation and personnel even when its obviously not working..give the man a break,his tactical awareness won us the game as well as lampard's goals
Ken4CFC
@cobhamblue,guess the were flattered by the 2goals and his antecedents but judging by performance excludin the goals he was anonymous,tell me anyother exceptional thing he did in the game that i dont know
Ken4CFC
@cobhamblue,guess the were flattered by the 2goals and his antecedents but judging by performance excludin the goals he was anonymous,tell me anyother exceptional thing he did in the game that i dont know
Ken4CFC
@ess,judgin by how many players failed to turn to the party,luiz was sensational compared to them..excludin iva,cahil and rami,whoelse performed better luiz on the day..he was combatant enough considerin he is just getin used to his new role
Ken4CFC
I agree that Lampard did not have a spectacular game apart from the goals. Then again, no one had. And it's hardly possible for Lampard to perform well when the rest of the team are ****, is it? Lampard seized individual opportunities in a very productive manner, which is the most you could have asked for really. The team needs to work on it's counter-pressing and off-the-ball game. When more physical teams step up the pace and put in harder tackles, we lose dominance. The only way to overcome this is to move, move, move and to pass, pass, pass. Like Barca players do. We def need more mobile CMs. And a striker who is actully scoring would be nice. But the priority should be our midfield.
ElMagicoNino
U are the one who should stop contradictin yourself,why would a coach change whats working for him,u said pienaar was deployed in the middle to stop luiz when its the other way round,true pienaar scored but it was in the 2nd minute when we havent settled into the game but nothing was working for everton through the middle so that had to switch to wingplay by takin pienaar back to the left in the 2nd half where he became more influential..whats our business if they missing their whole starting IX?? Did we get them suspended or injured?? It was their own doin so they should leave with it afterall they have a 25man squad of paid players to pick from...baines was less influential in the 1st half because they choose to play through the middle....hahaha pienaar got tired,really?? Mate u are becoming comical..when last did pienaar tire out of a game? luiz made him tire then(if thats how u want it).on a more serious note,pienaar wasnt tired he was FRUSTRATED..david made that pitch a living hell for him
Ken4CFC
Atlast someone talkin sense,thank you @elmagico,i completly agree with u,and judgin by the standard of our performance yesterday some playin slightly had an edge over others and luiz is one of those
Ken4CFC
'Players' and not 'playin'
Ken4CFC
Beautiful just found a good analysis from ESPN...agree or not,it tallies exactly to what I said earlier. David Luiz vs Steven Pienaar It's worth highlighting David Luiz's role in the match as this was his toughest opponents yet since his recent switch to a midfield role. It was clear that Luiz is still not entirely adept at playing a holding midfield in this performance in terms of his defensive performance. He failed to stick close to Pienaar and was too slow to make the transition from attack back to defence - a glaring example would be at the start when Pienaar started the move which led to Everton's goal. For now, the Brazilian's unfamiliarity with the nuances of covering midfield spaces defensively may mean that he will be better off facing 'patient' midfielders, rather than going up against fast ones who like to transit play fast. To cite an example, Luiz would have done well against someone like Gylfi Sigurdsson but would struggle against Shinji Kagawa. Of course, Luiz will improve with experience, but it's still a glaring weakness which was exposed against Everton when Pienaar easily sneaked behind him to launch Everton's attacks. The Jagielka-Heitinga gap It was interesting to see Fernando Torres constantly make runs between Baines and Distin throughout the match but it was a weakness in the other half of the defence between Jagielka and Heitinga which had a glaring hole which led to both Chelsea's goals. Lampard's first goal came from a cross where Heitinga shifted forward but Jagielka failed to follow - it could be blamed on a simple lack of communication and/or practice together in dealing with crosses - a basic drill which teams would have trained for regularly. As for the second goal, Heitinga was nowhere to be found when Lampard pounced on the area where the Dutch defender should have been. Heitinga was at fault here - he went chasing after the ball which fell outside the box for Mata instead of protecting his zone when Osman was perfectly placed to pressure Mata in the first place, leaving Jagielka to deal with both Lampard and Hazard. The goals conceded make a good case of why good defences in the league tend to have the same defenders lining up together week in and out to develop the understanding.
nelyvanile
There's not more to be said,its weird that their analysis on Luiz tallies with mine,that's what happens when you watch games with open eyes.
nelyvanile
@ shlok27, @Mq, BlueAndWhiteArmy you are the brain of Vital Chelsea.
EliteBlue
ChelseaDaft anlyse luiz performance as thus: covered defence well,showed good pace getin back,made some important defensive challenges and taking up the correct positions,his passing in the 1st half wasnt on point,pienaar was given the task of man marking the brazilian and making life difficult for him,took up the task of bein the only physical presence in the midfield and did so well.made some strong challenges in the 2nd half,show a few magic (chip to torres) and got a hold of the game which lead to the goal
Ken4CFC
ChelseaDaft on lampard performance: Unnoticeable in the 1st half until he got the crucial goal before halftime.he undertook his defensive duties well in the 2nd half,created some chances and poped up with the winner again
Ken4CFC
Bleacher reports analyse luiz performance as thus: another accomplished midfield showing from Luiz,who was more involved than any other chelsea player and scurried after everton's attackers throughout the game.he enjoyed a testin battle with pienaar,completed four interceptions and created a couple of chances in the final third
Ken4CFC
Sums up david luiz performance and what i have been sayin above..david luiz was a force to be reckon with in our midfield,he offered us physical presence which matched the everton pattern,he was more involved than any other chelsea player
Ken4CFC
Would like to know why pienaar was subbed if not for luiz hassling and frustratin him,why would a manager sub his best player when he is chasing a game??
Ken4CFC
Happy new year folks,wish u all a succesful,prosperous and victorious 2013..cheers guys
Ken4CFC
@Ken...you are right, he was better then some...but that highlights how bad some players were, not how sensational Luiz was. He was poor and you need to watch the game over again, I just did for a 4th time on Chelsea t.v.
Ess...DaBison
@kaku, so where was FL's grit & character was hiding when we couldnt beat juventus @ home, lost to shakhtar, lost to At Mad, lost to corinthians???? I agree that FL scored those 2 imp goals which ensured 3 points, but that doesn't hide the very fact that he failed in his primary responsibility that is to control the midfield....
Blu_run
wilkins wants SAF to sign FL...wow...SAF will not do that, he knew what he will be facing (FL gving stupid interviews to press abt his ambition, his playing method, how much he can offer his team)...have you seen giggs, scholes doing it????
Blu_run
@ess,yea many of our players were poor,but judgin from that standard of play some(luiz inclusive) stil managed to have a better game than others..our stand out performers were ivanovic,cahill,rami,luiz,lampard(for the goals) and cech(1st half).the rest had terrible games....with luiz in midfield we've not lost a game so far,that 2nd min pienaar's goal was the 1st we have conceded with luiz in the midfield and that was due to the fact that we were unsettled in the early stages.david luiz has been more useful for us in midfield than in defence where he is liability this season...am not a pro-luiz but i just feel the lad is not getin the credits he deserves,he does relatively well in the absence of mikel
Ken4CFC
**'He has done' not 'he does'**
Ken4CFC
We should sell Luiz in Jan and get as much as we can for him.I know he's the fans favourite but he is so dodgy in defence and makes silly mistakes. This was one of the first things Rafa noticed and he has picked other players at CB and we are doing so much better.He hasn't got the concentration to play defensive midfield and does quite a lot of ball watching.He does challenge well and get among people and has a great touch but we are Chelsea.We should be getting players who are the best in their own position,not trying to find a place for someone who can't do the job he was bought to do.We need a player such as Fernandinho who is light years ahead of Luiz,no matter how nice and popular the guy is.
THEBREEZE
@The breeze...I am sure that post ^^ is a new year joke...nothing more..happy new year buddy!!
layorh12
THEBREEZE, Too much wine?
foreign_viewer
The experts don't know anything. If they did they would have won league ahead of Scottish Fergie long ago. But it never happens.
foreign_viewer
@the breeze,then we should go get messi and ronaldo since they are the best in their own positions
Ken4CFC
We came back to win 2-1 at Everton's own ground. A team that we couldn't get a single goal for the last 2 season away, and people are still complaining. Unbelievable. May be we have to win every single game 8-0 to keep us all happy.
I am Number 7
He can't be trusted at centre back and now where trying to make a midfield player out of him.He just couldn't cope with Pienaar's movement.
THEBREEZE
We won't get Messi or Ronaldo but we should be trying to get a top midfielder who knows what it's all about instead of trying to make Luiz into one,because he can't defend properly.
THEBREEZE
@ken..we aren't conceding so many goals; yh that's more the Cahill Ivanovic partnership than Luiz in midfield. If anything its because he has been taken out of defence that we concede less, so if anyone deserves any credit for that its cahill and ivanovic. If you think that Luiz's performance was ok compare to some then fair enough. But if however you think personally his performance was sensational then I cant accept. And please don't give your Piennar example for a 5th time, that means nothing to me. Its actually quite contradictory as nelyvanile pointed out. He was "frustrated" the whole game by Luiz and got subbed off for it yet he was still their best player and MOTM.
Ess...DaBison
@thebreeze,i know u would want us to get fernandinho,wanyama,fellaini e.t.c,but here we are unearthenin our own fellaini instead of u to support him u slatin him,he is just adjustin to his new role and can only get better,we would benefit greatly from his versatility..i bet if he plays for another team u would want us to shell out £40mil for his signature
Ken4CFC
@ess,iva and cahil were there in the monterrey game when we conceded shortly after david was subbed...as i said earlier luiz is more useful in the midfield than in the defence where he has been a liability this season..in as much as iva and cahill deserve credits luiz should also be credited for shieldin the back4 and workin his sock off in the midfield,sometimes he is always alone in midfield because lamps is up there with the striker to get us a goal and slow to track back when posesion is lost..the players played below standard and judgin by that yardstick i think david was sensational,fGs he was more involved in the game than anyother chelsea player...yea,i would give the pienaar example again,luiz hassled,bullied and frustrated pienaar in the game(he even got pienaar booked),i would ask again why was pienaar subbed off???...pienaar bein their MOTM was the same way lampard was ours,lampard was anonymous for huge part of the the game but he popped up with two goals and that was enough for him to be MOTM,while pienaar scored their goal and only got more involved in the 2nd half when moyes moved him from midfield to the leftwing...like it or not david luiz was very vital to our win
Ken4CFC
We didnt concede because Luiz went off, the goal was coming and their strikers had plenty of chances even with Luiz on the field, the fact that when he did finally finish one of his chances and it happend to be at the time luiz wasnt on the field was nothing more then a coincidence, like I said he had plenty of chances to score when luiz was on the field but didnt take any--nothing to do with Luiz. Again I maintain he wasn't sensational but OK compared to most (a refection of how bad we actually were). I think you need to watch football first and MOTD highlights to see what else Lamps contributed other than the goals..they covered it perfectly. And again don't use the Piennar example..Like I said it means nothing TO ME!
Ess...DaBison
Also ramieres was more involved in the game than Luiz. Rafa put him out wide to neutralise the bale and Piennar combo and it worked a treat. Not only did he carry out that task successfully but he did that and more!
Ess...DaBison
Who the hell would pay £40m for a defender who keeps making mistakes.
THEBREEZE
Maybe its a coincidence or maybe not,the fact is that the everton goal was the 1st since david played in midfield..ok maybe he wasnt sensational for u but he was for me considerin how the rest of his peers performed and judgin them on that poor standard..oh we all know how bias and gabberish alan shearer and co could be on MOTD,especially on matters concernin chelsea and british...well if the pienaar example meant nothing to u,it means something to others.
Ken4CFC
@the breeze,the same teams(barca and city) who had bids of £30mil rejected
Ken4CFC
Yh I don't think it's bias from Shearer, he knows the value of experience as a former pro of the highest level. Also it's not him who picks out the clips, that would be the job of analysts and all he does is present them (I don't think he has the time to go through 10 games to pick out clips). Sensational isn't the right word to use then if you're describe his performance compared to others, he wasn't that good. And I don't think the example does mean a whole lot to others either as generally most people thought we were, with the odd exception (ramieres), as a whole poor. And it definitely was a coincidence, like I said he already had neumourous chances to score even when Luiz was on the field but didn't take them.
Ess...DaBison
So bein a former at the highest level now makes one unbias or good at what they do..neville(before now),lineker,collymore,sounes e.t.c where all disgrace to football commentary and punditry,there level or bias and garbage on set was 2nd to non both they know the value of experience as former pros of the highest level,enuff said abt that..now to luiz,he wasnt good but he was better than many,sensation simply means impressive in this context and using the team's poor performance as a yardstick,luiz was impressive than so many of his peers(only iva,cahil and rami were better),he gave a pretty good account of himself as we were totally outnumbered in the midfield with everton's 4-4-2 against our 4-3-3 and their flat 4-5-1 against our 4-2-3-1 and guess what?only david did most of the markin as lampard was always in their 18yard box and mata cant tackle,so it leaves luiz with 4 or 5 everton players to mark,the only help he got was from ramires..if that is not impressive(sensational) for cb playin a dm then what else could we call it???...spain won the euros concedin only one goal,does it mean the other teams didnt create chances??
Ken4CFC
@Ken4CFC, I'll advice u not to argue further, u have made very clear, honest and convincing points but the guy u are arguing with will never come to terms with u and will never see light in your points, that's just the way it is here... This is Luiz's 2nd or 3rd game in DM and someone is expecting a sensational performance.. even Mikel and Romeu who have been playing in that position for years only manage to put up occasional sensational performances... Expecting a sensational performance from Luiz and picking out that as the main issue noticed from the everton game is just in a bid to blindly criticize the lad... especially in a match we all know was gonna be tough. Luiz still managed to hustle around, make interceptions, release quick forward passes and all this guy can infer is POOR(20/100 or 30/100)....You know the saying, Fill a cup half-way, the pessimist soul will call it half empty while the positive thinking would see it as half filled....Save your sweat and energy mate, it doesn't worth it to argue further...
Latunvic
So basically what you are saying is there is no point of listening to any form of analysis because its all bias?? and who are they bias for because all the 4 different analysis I watched (original game, Motd, FootballFirst, chelsea tv) all were saying the same thing, and we're not suppose to listen to any of it? Instead we're suppose to listen to someone who has no credibility in football whatsoever? haha.. you keep listening to yourself then. As viewers we're suppose to watch the analysis and make our own judgement based on the validity of the issues raised and that's exactly what I have done. As for lampard always being inside the 18 yard box, how many times did we actually get into their 18 yard box? Not very many..and as they had more possession lamps had to do his fair share off the ball (even though he was slow and lethargic). Again "sensational" or "impressive" aren't the correct words if your basing a performance on comparison. If that performance actually impressed you then that worries me in the standards you have set for Chelsea, It imply's you find the performance reasonable. Im sorry I just cant agree, its not good enough for me. If falani, gibson, neville and mirrallas were fit we would have got punnished.
Ess...DaBison
@ess,would have loved to drag it on but its very clear we would never agree on this matter,so lets keep our opinion to ourselves and hope that our team improves by beatin qpr emphatically tommorrow..however its been nice debatin with u thanks for the time,hopeful we would engage in more debates in future..cheers mate
Ken4CFC
@Mq I'm so sick and tired of your negative comments about Frank. 1. Mata was anonymous for the last 3 or 4 games and scored goals but there was no criticism. For you he is Mr. Fantastic, a midfield maestro. I tell you something, Mata isn't as half as good as Frank Lampard and he never will be. All the comments about Frank being awful the last two seasons are just bull*****. The young players were responsible for the 6th place in the premier league and of course villas-boas. It was the right to kick him out and it's a shame and cheek to say the old players especially Frank Lampard had influence on the dismissal. No one knows what was going on behind the scences. 2. The argument that Frank wouldn't agree to a lower salary is just speculation and another bad way to say Frank has a bad character. Chelsea didn't even offer him a one-year-contract or a lower salary. They offered him nothing. Frank is the best player Chelsea ever had and if they really don't sign him up for at least one year then they will have one less fan. I'm honest about that. At first I'm a fan of Frank Lampard and then a Chelsea Fan. Because of him I become a Chelsea Fan. But I supported Chelsea with my heart for the last 8 years. I defended the team against all critics, especially after the Champions League final 2012 as the experts talked in a very bad way about chelsea on the german tv. But since then the board and abramovitch made again some very dubious decisions. Abramovitch wants to turn the team into a second barcelona but that's not chelsea. If that is the future then they can't count on me anymore.
SuperFrank87
@Mq I'm so sick and tired of your negative comments about Frank. 1. Mata was anonymous for the last 3 or 4 games and scored goals but there was no criticism. For you he is Mr. Fantastic, a midfield maestro. I tell you something, Mata isn't as half as good as Frank Lampard and he never will be. All the comments about Frank being awful the last two seasons are just bull*****. The young players were responsible for the 6th place in the premier league and of course villas-boas. It was the right to kick him out and it's a shame and cheek to say the old players especially Frank Lampard had influence on the dismissal. No one knows what was going on behind the scences. 2. The argument that Frank wouldn't agree to a lower salary is just speculation and another bad way to say Frank has a bad character. Chelsea didn't even offer him a one-year-contract or a lower salary. They offered him nothing. Frank is the best player Chelsea ever had and if they really don't sign him up for at least one year then they will have one less fan. I'm honest about that. At first I'm a fan of Frank Lampard and then a Chelsea Fan. Because of him I become a Chelsea Fan. But I supported Chelsea with my heart for the last 8 years. I defended the team against all critics, especially after the Champions League final 2012 as the experts talked in a very bad way about chelsea on the german tv. But since then the board and abramovitch made again some very dubious decisions. Abramovitch wants to turn the team into a second barcelona but that's not chelsea. If that is the future then they can't count on me anymore.
SuperFrank87
@SuperFrank87, I dont think you watched the everton game...apart from the 2goals, Lampard didnt have anything to say...Mata has 2 close chances, one which rebounded to lampard to score...Again, I agree Lampard is a wonderful player to play for us...but, it is now time for us to move on...he is 34...chelsea wont offer him the multi-yr contract...they will offer him a 1 yr rolling contract with significant low wages...they are just offering him a chance to look for some lucrative deal outside england...thats the reason why chelsea have rejected the approach of EPL teams for cole & lampard...if they are not interested in moving away or couldn't get their preferred choice of contracts, then chelsea will definitely offer them a contract on its terms...
Blu_run
Heard SAF wants Lampard & Cole for Free...he is willing to offer them a 1-yr rolliing contract (almost the same length what chelsea offer)...If they choose it, it shows how good LEGENDS are they.....
Blu_run
I could see our old chelsea coming back and mind you it is a game againt Everton, a team that has really shown us a game in 3 season back at their back yard.
Kendemsblue
we could afford to offer lamps and ash 2 yr deals they both deserve it who could argue against it we have already got a small squad so it would make perfect sense they could eventually be used like the mancs use giggs and scholes
herefordchelsea
Would they agree to be used like the mancs use giggs and scholes??
Ken4CFC
For sure, no team will pay Super Frankie the same amount that chelsea are paying him at the moment, so let him accept a cut wage and a year rolling contract
Kendemsblue
For sure, no team will pay Super Frankie the same amount that chelsea are paying him at the moment, so let him accept a cut wage and a year rolling contract
Kendemsblue
 

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