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Match Day Moments - QPR (h)

Tonight we get the chance to leap-frog our rivals Tottenham, thereby regaining third place in the Premier League, when we face QPR at Stamford Bridge.

Our neighbours may be struggling, at the foot of the table but you can guarantee one thing for this clash, Harry Redknapp`s boys will certainly be up for it.

With games running out and every point considered precious, QPR will not simply rollover, but will our clash prevail?

One would hope so, but what starting eleven will Rafa select, how, with reference to tactics will Rafa cope with a side smacking of desperation?

Why not join us, from 19:15 hours (UK Time) onwards to discuss the above and also the action as it unfolds as we continue with our now, infamous, Match Day Moments thread.

But, can we ask you all turn over a new leaf for a New Year and keep it civil!




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The Journalist

Writer: Merlin Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday January 2 2013

Time: 4:22PM

Your Comments

Come on Chelsea !!!!!!!!!!!
Shedend
All the best chelsea...hopfully we get the 3 points...i am sure they are coming to pack the train...but we should have enough to see this through...God help us.
layorh12
When teams are playing chelsea, they tend to give their all to spoil our party, something they seldom do when playing city or man utd, I deduced that they do this because we are not ruthless enough as a team, the fear man utd impose on other teams by beating them ruthless make other teams roll over with fear.. Hopefully a lethal striker like ba can help stop that
Desmondadonis
By beating them ruthlessly* today's game won't be as easy as QPR's position on the log shows, it will be a hard fought battle because its a derby clash, we need to improve on our goal difference too as it can help in the long run
Desmondadonis
CMON YOU BLUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TafChels
i hope we stick a bag full past them but realistically a win of any sorts will do me
herefordchelsea
Newcastle United can confirm that Chelsea Football Club has made an official offer for Demba Ba which has triggered the release clause in the player's contract. The Club has given the player permission to speak to Chelsea FC and therefore he will not be included in the squad for tonight's game against Everton.from new castle utd website.
sunnymakcres
Newcastle United can confirm that Chelsea Football Club has made an official offer for Demba Ba which has triggered the release clause in the player's contract. The Club has given the player permission to speak to Chelsea FC and therefore he will not be included in the squad for tonight's game against Everton.from new castle utd website.
sunnymakcres
chelsea now have the permission to speak with demba ba.
sunnymakcres
Hoping for 6-0 and help sending the scum down!!!!!
springy
chelsea now have the permission to speak with demba ba.
sunnymakcres
hoping for a big win
sunnymakcres
can any of you please tell me at what time and in which channel the match will be telecasted in india.
The Blue Indian
Star sports in india 1.15am
ktm_blues
Offtopic guys, nigeria is playing a friendly match with catalunya tonight and I am rather a tad confused when they say catalunya are pushing to have a government of their own with espanyol and barcelona as the main stream, if any spanish or someone knowledgeable of the about spanish history can shed a light on this, as the team consist of casillas,montoya,puyol,capdevila,xavi,victor sanchez,S gonzalez,verdu,borjan,sergio garcia, and another offtopic is that chalobah's deal have been extended another loan deal for watford
Desmondadonis
catalunya have played a couple of friendlies in the past .. check this article out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalonia_national_football_team
haji ahmed
Come on Chelsea
sojofjand
thank u so much ktm_blues
The Blue Indian
Chelsea subs: Hilario, Cole, Ferreira, Ramires, Mata, Hazard, Piazon. #CFC
Tunez
Chelsea team v QPR: Turnbull; Azpilicueta, Cahill, Ivanovic, Bertrand, D Luiz, Lampard; Moses, Oscar, Marin, Torres. #CFC
Tunez
omg...Tubby is killing me...i dont know if the team is strong enough..but the thinking behind the team selection is clear..and the way the squad is being rotated is amazing...I just hope we win...and I hope Marin has a fantastic game...chelsea all the way!!
layorh12
Ba will be a great addition but he can't play in Europa league as he is cup tied and we cannot win Europa with Torres, we may need another CF.
SameX
Start Rami for God Sake.
SameX
start for marin :)
trublujamaican
dont think the bloke feels Rammy that much TBH
Tunez
Don't know benitez is this confident.i hope this line up doesnt backfire.first pl start for Marin.proof your doubters wrong lad
obimikelisdbest
Some of you are b*tching and the game didn't even start yet.
zg2000fs
what! no Mata - there may be trouble ahead!
merlin
Mata obviously needs a rest @Merlin...this line up carries some risk...but it might just work...I hope it does...we desperately need the 3 points...if it worksm it'll be another big plus for tubby...fingers crossed
layorh12
The game's on SuperSport shey???!!!
Tunez
Benitez underrating qpr
prince china
seems like squad over-rotation...loooool....i still hop it works though...these are the kind of things that makes adrenalin fill my body...looking forward to the match...
layorh12
@prince china tbh, I am to... I'm underrating them to
Tunez
Marin Starts! COME ON CFC
The Psychic Blue l9l
@tunez hope we dont regret. Last time we underrated a team, we paid dearly for it
prince china
Tinkerman Mk 2 - although wasn't he renowned for not playing the same Liverpool side for something like 50 odd g
merlin
Rafa's team rotation is understandable at this stage of the season but having turnbull(which is out of necesity) in post doesnt give me the kind of confidence that i would ve love to have going into this match. I hope turnbull uses this opportunity to win the confidence of the fans.
Chelz Akamz
what? like at Anfield last season!
merlin
Merlin ask him oo
prince china
good luck!, this line up can beat QPR if they press enough from the 1st minute to th last.
EliteBlue
See. The defense and midfield remains almost the same (bertrand for cole aside) so we are only hoping the new midfield 3 are potent enough. If you mess up with midfield and defense you run the risk of losing games. We may find it hard to break them down early on, but hazard and mata coming on with 20 minutes on against tired players is ok.
Mia Maynard
Kudos to Rafa for this line up..this team is good enough to win and good rotation..
Malhotra
Is it not on Sky?
londonfc
Marin on the starting teamsheet is long overdue. I hope he impresses us too on his first premier league start for chelsea. Mata too needs some rest aswell though i would have expected our speedster(rami) to start inplace of luiz who like luiz needs rest aswell.
Chelz Akamz
Pray we win this match
sojofjand
I prefer Hilario, we will have to outscore them.
SameX
Hope we smash QPR and send them down to relegation. If we can beat Villa 8-0, then we should go to double figures today. Come on CHELSEA
The Psychic Blue l9l
Gosh......Horrible tackle mehn!!!!! Horrible.
KAKUfrank
Marin should be off. Spoils the match for me.
foreign_viewer
Disgusting challenge by marin there, he's very lucky to still be on the pitch.
CalculatedKalou
Marin - lucky boy - could have seen red there!
merlin
Torres, Lampard and Oscar are too quiet
foreign_viewer
Lucky not to be sent off Marin
The Psychic Blue l9l
Are you guys serious you moan Oscar doesn't start you moan Marin doesn't start an when they do you start moaning! You tell me how Benitez is underlying qpr the only weak player is Turnbull! Everyone else is an international capped player! Some mata dropped do you want him suffering burnout? If cant rest him to qpr at home when do you suggest we rest him? United at old Trafford maybe? Jeez! For once before a game can everyone cheer the team on rather than act like your ha 50 years in management and have right to criticise!
Marcel
The Ref just left him.
SameX
Are QPha passing it better? Something's wrong here.
foreign_viewer
@Kakufrank wats the score of the nigerian match
prince china
Very horrible tackle he was lucky to remain on the pitch, that should have been a straight RED
sojofjand
Pardew just confirmed Ba to Chelsea is a done deal.
SameX
Sorry i mean chelsea match...i'm watchin nigerian match
prince china
I see a tight game, just 3 points will do
@Mq
oh luiz dont kill him
AMENS
Commentators rightly point out the 16th minute claps aren't as loud as they used to be LoL
@Mq
Derby games can be boring.
SameX
Someone has got to tell Oscar to stop taking these long range shots. He's scored just 3 of it and missed about 10 or so. He kills attacks with those long rangers. Too many attacks.
KAKUfrank
Better play now, nice move TorrMentor
@Mq
@kaku i disagree with because those long range are part of our game of our identity that we are missing since lampard is shooting them anymore and since ballack and essien both left . People need to understand we re not Barca we are Chelsea. besides those long range shots are good to watch. every time i close my eyes i see oscar scoring against buffon.
kam.kh
Dire performance so far
The Psychic Blue l9l
Oscar and long range shots...smh
@Mq
Long range shots are good but not when there are players in better positions. Btw, how many has he scored since Shaktar
SameX
We being somewhat poor really :(
@Mq
Torres needs to fight for the ball.
foreign_viewer
This games needs Ramires. Lampard off. Too many games for a 34 year old.
foreign_viewer
Am i the only one that the only ön that feels that mikel passes better than Luiz
obimikelisdbest
i wondered how long it'd take for the anti-Frank chat! Shameful!
merlin
so much for getting behind the lads!
merlin
@obimikelisdbest yes your the only one :) @foreign_viewer lamapard is not the problem -_-
kam.kh
Wtf is wrong with luiz?
prince china
@Kam.Kh, answer SameX's question. This first half has been awful!!!!!!
KAKUfrank
Lol.sorry for the typos
obimikelisdbest
Lampard is the problem. He is letting Luiz do all the passing.
foreign_viewer
Lol.sorry for the typos
obimikelisdbest
TorrMented1 been poor, very VERY POOR
@Mq
FFS WHY ARE WE PLAYING SO POORLY WITH LUIZ'S LONG RANGE PASSES THAT GO WAY OFF TARGET AND IVANOVIC'S MISSILES TO THE MOON!!! SORT THIS OUT!!
The Psychic Blue l9l
Torres is poor,really. Has given the ball away alot and doesnt pose any attacking threat . And Luiz ,you can pass better. Mata please!
Ohans
Another stupid long ranger from Ivanovic.....
KAKUfrank
poor or well marshalled by a resilient QPR side fighting for ther lives?
merlin
Lol.sorry for the typos
obimikelisdbest
@Merlin...Ramires would suit this game better, Lamps should be have been rested after his exploits on Sunday.
SameX
where's the goals at, pool already up 2-0
Slippy G-19
IVVVAAAANNOOOVIIC!!!!!!!!! WHYYYYYYYYYY!!!?!?!!?????? YOU CAN'T SHOOT! END OF!!!
The Psychic Blue l9l
FFS...I was hopind to be 3 up by this stage...another poor pass from Luiz....he has been shocking!
Ess...DaBison
That's why Mikel does the simple passes. You can't just keep throwing the ball away like that.
foreign_viewer
Torres hasn't been poor. He;s been terrible. Demba can't join soon enough.
KAKUfrank
why the ***** are we afraid to attack these fools.. gees man
denverblue
Did benitez tell all d players to be shootin from anywhere? Oscar, ivanovic, luiz, moses. I wonder o
prince china
Finnally some threat!
The Psychic Blue l9l
Lol.sorry for the typos.e be lyk say luiz and ivanovic don craze
obimikelisdbest
how ironic our first real test for julio cesar came from a long range shot from Oscar
kam.kh
frustrated by decent team spirit - remind you of anhhwere lads?
merlin
Lol.sorry for the typos.e be lyk say luiz and ivanovic don craze
obimikelisdbest
perhaps it needs a deflection ;-)
merlin
Lol.sorry for the typos.e be lyk say luiz and ivanovic don craze
obimikelisdbest
smh.. playing with marin and torres make the team look like we playing with 9 men
denverblue
Torres is poor,really. Has given the ball away alot and doesnt pose any attacking threat . And Luiz ,you can pass better. Mata please!
Ohans
QPR haven't done anything of note. They are not defending for their lives.
foreign_viewer
when is torres anything other than terrible?
Ess...DaBison
Torres off. Ramires on.
foreign_viewer
So because our first real threat came from Oscar's long range shot, it means he should keep blasting unneccessary shots when there are players in better positions.
SameX
Rafa's tinkering has not paid off needs to introduce Mata at least for Marin.
Anarchy
I hope the fans will now understand why DM keep things simple with their passes. What Luiz did with his long passes was annoying.
foreign_viewer
Sh*tty all around. Would love to see someone, anyone subbed on for torres
bleedblueSTL
It is very important we sign a Central Midfielder as soon as possible in this window. Slow, Lethargic, and careless. Then add how much the midfield results affect our front three.
KAKUfrank
@Obimikelisthebest - Luiz is a terrible defender ,as a defender, his passes are horrible just like his compatriot Ramirez. Am just surprised people expect him to fair better in the middle of the pack. One thing I am sure of is that ,he is not a DM . THose who hate Mikel would just prefer anyone else no matter who it is. That is my take on this.
TheIncrediblue
All is not well, come on Rafa you're the Gaffer, earn your money!
merlin
OMG..Sorry for the multiple posts guys
obimikelisdbest
why not move moses central and take poorres off...at least musa will put himself around andbe of some nuisance!
Ess...DaBison
A little disappointed. We dont look like we will concede, but i thought playing marin right and moses left was a bit wrong, marin left and moses right is how we finished the half and we shoudl continue that way till the 60th minute at least, when subs should be made. Hopefully the last time we will have to see torres only up front - we will most likely have an option 'ba' then
Mia Maynard
the midfield lacks creativity so much that I cant believe it. Lampard makes more backyard passes than any midfielder I have ever seen (including Mikel). without goal he has zero impact on the game and he frustrates the whole team.
EliteBlue
***** poor just ***** poor....That was the worst 45 minutes from Torres I have ever seen. There is no movement up front and the pivot moves the ball so slow...Just the worst...No creativity at all. Furthermore, Oscar didn't have a good 45 minutes either. Poor touches. This ball over the top crap must stop...Just stupid. When the ball does get wide, the bus is already parked and waiting...No movement up front...Stupid that Hazard and Mata must come on to save this crap game.
lamarochs
F_V.. I disagree, QPR havent defended for their lives, they havent had to because we have been so poor. They've been allowed to be poor by us!
Ess...DaBison
At least RDM and Rafa are not stupid for sitting Marko since
KAKUfrank
ForeignViewer , I Agree with you. There is a recent poll that shows that the top DM in the premiership that has Most passes backwards - : Yaya Toure (Manchester City) 488, Mikel Arteta (Arsenal) 486, James McCarthy (Wigan) 413. A bulk of them are DMs. They are the first point of attacks and if there isn't any CAM,CM to collect from them, they either take it back for restart. http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/sport/hazard-is-the-premier-league-s-danger-man-1-5266957
TheIncrediblue
Time for Torres to go...and with Piazon to replace him...
lamarochs
I agree with Kaku,, I am still not comfortable with Luiz @DM, we need a creative DM Asap. And Ba is not enough for our CF options as Torres is crap, we need one more CF apart from Ba.
SameX
They are playing based on instructions on those long shots
prince china
It was a 1st half of lacklustre performance. Alot has not been working well. Hoping to see some match changing subs in the 2nd period.
Ohans
Wow extremely poor half ! I saw nothing from either team, but we must be the only team that can play with TWO wingers and have no width?? Why was everything going through the middle?
Nobleonenoble
I agree with kaku and sameX...Luiz doesnt look stable at CM. I wouldn't feel safe with him playing CM in any of our big games!
Ess...DaBison
We need to cool down the game a bit. QPR are playing for the counter and will defend for their lives if they manage to score first. We need mata on for marin to hold up the ball and give us better options close to their 18yard box.
Dwonder
midfield lacks creativity, lampard makes back passes, luiz is terrible in midfield, its like those graphs, waves, that move from positive to negative every 45 minutes. what an army of clowns.
Mia Maynard
Midfield is playing the ball way too slow along with no movement up front. Basic problem The long ball over the top or the long shot shows the frustration of slow distribution along with no off the ball movement...Torres is just standing and watching....Luiz does dive in after the ball and thus gets beat. Lampard is always looking to get forward.
lamarochs
Luiz is doing unnecessary long range passes because the person who is supposed to help him when he has the ball is always looking for a rebound when Luiz has the ball. Lampard does not know his main job on the field is to build attack, when they give him the ball he gives it back and idly run to the opposition expecting his teammates to create for him.
EliteBlue
Wow extremely poor half ! I saw nothing from either team, but we must be the only team that can play with TWO wingers and have no width?? Why was everything going through the middle?
Nobleonenoble
We need more than Ba. Marin can go on loan to Leverkusen for Schurlle, his injuries are affecting his potentials. Thank God we are playing crap in January.
SameX
...and SameX its true we need another decent striker along with Ba and have to offload Poorres. Whenever he plays it like playing with 10 men... he is holding us back big time!
Ess...DaBison
@kam.kh seems you are watching the back of your TV.How many complete passes has luiz made?the guy is having an absolute shocker in the middle of the park.forget sentiments here,i dont think he is made for the midfield role.
obimikelisdbest
Mikel's passing is not for creative purposes.
foreign_viewer
Rafa should switch to 4-3-3, Rami should come on for Lamps to complete the midfield trio and Hazard should come on for Marin.
SameX
Kai. Moses......
KAKUfrank
Its been a poor disjointed first half for chelsea. Luiz in his bid to make long range passes kept giving the ball away and torres havent shown any attacking treat. He should make way for mata so moses can go upfront.
Chelz Akamz
alright lads - just got in and noticed the score wtf lol this on tv (England) ?
Clingy
qpr dont even look like they are trying....god this is embarrassing
Ess...DaBison
@incrediblue you are absolutely spot on.
obimikelisdbest
@incrediblue you are absolutely spot on.
obimikelisdbest
Lampard needs to do a "Pirlo" or get out.
foreign_viewer
MArrin out of Hazard, and Oscar out for MAta.
TheIncrediblue
QPR are still not defending for their lives. There is plenty of space if Torres positions himself properly.
foreign_viewer
I cant w8 until Ba comes .....poorress is 5hitttttt
Ess...DaBison
Lampard is a poacher.
foreign_viewer
Lol. Get Rami on Now. Lamps wants to score by all means.
SameX
Ba will tear this QPR defence into pieces, too much space.
SameX
We need to sign Sneijder. With Frank departing, we need someone that can provide steel and direction in the middle. Otherwise we will become the 2nd coming of Wenger's Arsenal from 2-3 seasons ago.
OCBlues
like taking candy from a baby...couldn't have said it any better..
Ess...DaBison
Lampard's pressing game is non existant.
foreign_viewer
It appears Ba's signing has totlly unsettled Torres that he cant even get the simple touches right anymore.
Ohans
Sneijder's wages are too high and he can't play from deep.
SameX
Ok that's it. Lampard off!
foreign_viewer
If Ba's imminent signing is what is disturbing Torres then he is a kid.
SameX
luiz is poo
Ess...DaBison
Lampard and his *****ty passes
obimikelisdbest
Lampard and his *****ty passes
obimikelisdbest
lampard iz making the look midfield scrap!!!
AMENS
Lampard and Torres need to come Off
Anarchy
With all due respect, Lamps has been useless so far,only lurking around for easy goals and has given away too many passes. Luiz, Oh no!
Ohans
da ***** .. so chelsea nuh want to win this match!?
denverblue
Off side ??? must have been pretty marginal !!
ZeeNut
He's a poacher. Lampard offside
foreign_viewer
Lamps is staying cos he is the only guy that could get us the goal. all others are just kicking crazy aimless high ballls
TheIncrediblue
We need to score. Hazard IN.
SameX
thats it game over
Ess...DaBison
Torres has really been a waste of space. Unlucky Lamps,offside.
Ohans
Azpi is a massive diver!
Ess...DaBison
Why is hazard playing our free kicks or corner kicks whatever.
TheIncrediblue
cant find the game but checked the score, are we still 0-0 heading for a a goaless draw versus qrpr.....even the most optimistic of us would admit our title hopes die tonight, well died around about the man u game for me usually i can be a player snob but will happily take anyone in the January window as long as he can play football and is keen
Clingy
Lampard and his *****ty passes
obimikelisdbest
We may need to find another position for Oscar, he is certainly not a real #10. Maybe we should transform him to a Modric type of player.
SameX
This game needs the pace of Ramires and the creativity of Mata. Lampard and Torres off.
foreign_viewer
clingy ... r u based in India ? I too am not getting star sports trying to manage with live streaming
ZeeNut
Wrong sub by Benitez. Who's going to help Azpi defend the right flank?
foreign_viewer
15 minutes to go , Mata in for Moses
ZeeNut
oh dear Torres
Anarchy
Luiz doing all the DM work by himself. He looks tired.
foreign_viewer
I hope Ron and Emenalo are watching. This squad needs massive help. Torres is tired and I dont think the board should put their trust on him. Get Ba and someone else.
SameX
tubby fuQd us!
Ess...DaBison
WHAT A JOKE!!!
Puttinuttan
s****************t
kam.kh
title over
Ess...DaBison
Benitez should have taken off Lampard long ago.
foreign_viewer
WOW
The Psychic Blue l9l
we really needed those 3 points :(
kam.kh
very well deserved... you have to be fair with the subs u make rafa
EliteBlue
Ross TURNFAT!!!!!!! DISGUSTING!!!!!
KAKUfrank
of all teams, we gotta lose to qpr.ok
TheIncrediblue
So QPR has had pretty much half their point count this season from us then?
Puttinuttan
we're the biggest muggs in the prem...Loose to the worst team in the prem at home!
Ess...DaBison
What an idiot Benitez is. It was clear central midfield was too slow.
foreign_viewer
ZeeNut based in uk mate, found a dodgy link that stayed stuck on pause then showed a goal...qpr goal... bet you a tenner we make spazzy purchases in the January window - Gourlay and BUCK OUT GTFO GTFO GTFO GTFO!!!
Clingy
These games cost us the title. Blames goes to Luiz, Ivanovic, Torres
The Psychic Blue l9l
stream was not good when QPR sxored - anyone to blame ?
ZeeNut
Genuinely hope this is the last time I EVER see Torres in the team. The guy is bad at EVERYTHING!
Puttinuttan
Lol!
SameX
And rafa just pulled the only man that could probably get us goals or not... lamps so its over
TheIncrediblue
For thoose who think Azpi is better than Iva at rb please watch this game!
Ess...DaBison
And we conceed then Lamps was subd. I hate sentiment!
Ohans
Thank God we won against Everton.
SameX
i dont really rate demba ba but anyone is better than this limp weakling we have disgracing our number 9 jersey...
Gondo
Game lost. Benitez is an idiot idiot of the highest order for not seeing the obvious.
foreign_viewer
Title has realistically been gone for a long time. Just sad that 200 million pounds worth of attacking talent can't give QPR problems at home
MDChelseaFan
Lol.ampard pls save us
obimikelisdbest
SLOW BUILD UPS COSTED THIS GAME.
The Psychic Blue l9l
I dont like it when a manager sticks to Lamps so much. Rami should have started.
SameX
Lol.ampard pls save us.LMAO
obimikelisdbest
I usually collect a CFC strip each year and was late getting one, as the season goes on not really fussed about adding it to the collection. this season really is just one to forget....wish there was a fast forward button :(
Clingy
I CANT BELIEVE THIS
TafChels
ffs why did luiz take it!!!!
The Psychic Blue l9l
@Samex.......wages are relative to impact on the field. He is one of the 5 best CMs out there. Why would you need him to play from deep.....and why is that of any relevance?
OCBlues
mata should take it
kam.kh
Oscar, Marin and Torres are also to be blamed, do we have to start Hazard and Mata everytime before we can win??? Are other players not paid??
SameX
feckkkkkkk why luiz why
kam.kh
All the players who played pathetic should be fined and fans should be given a refund
The Psychic Blue l9l
Benitez cost the team this Match
sojofjand
I can already imagine the excuse from tubby...we were tired!
Ess...DaBison
Shame we cant get a single point out of this. Gutted!!
Ohans
Pass and move!!! Come on.
foreign_viewer
@OcBlues, cos we need a deeplyong playmaker.
SameX
Looks like we have to do a Man City to save our Title hopes
The Psychic Blue l9l
Never thought Arsenal would actually pick up points on us on a week when they draw and we play QPR at home :(
MDChelseaFan
Lampard is the flop of the match.
foreign_viewer
This is so shameful
sojofjand
So QPR would get their 2nd win of the season against us. These players are the worst . Tubby should never put this kind of line up again. and Luiz should never be allowed in the middle again. my opinion. atleast not without Mata ,ramirez
TheIncrediblue
Makeshift CM in Luiz and CM only good at scoring tap-ins in Lampard. Not the basis of a world-class team
MDChelseaFan
yet again lampard lampart lambird lam..................
AMENS
LUIIIIIIIZZZZZZZZZZZZZ WHYYYYYYYYY SHOOTT!!!????????????
The Psychic Blue l9l
39-45 sec wasted in the QPR sub but dont expect the Ref to give more than 5-10 secs
ZeeNut
what did i say
ZeeNut
Nah, dont put the blame on Rafa alone. Luiz, Lamps, Oscar, Moses, Marin and Torres are players on high wages, they are stars and should do better against the poorest team in the league. QPR did not even give us a real fight, we did not play like we wanted to win. Crap! I blame the players, especially Torres.
SameX
oh dear Rafa why oh why did you change a winning team again cost us the three points numptey
Anarchy
wow. lets just say the year will only get better. Horror result.
Mia Maynard
Back to where we were .... atleast Mikel can go to the CAF in peace.
TheIncrediblue
This match was lampered......
LeyemovicH
Words cannot describe my frustration. Absolutely *****ed of
The Psychic Blue l9l
happy new year .... not !
kam.kh
HOW CAN WE LOSE TO A TEAM THAT GOT BATTERED 3-0 BY LOOSERPOOL? OH WAIT, THEY HAD A STRIKER. DEMBA BA CANNOT COME SOONER.
The Psychic Blue l9l
Just saw the replay of the QPR goal ... methinks Ross positioned himself badly
ZeeNut
Chelsea 0 complacency 1
dickturpin
Very very angry
obimikelisdbest
stupid rotation policy crap cost us this game, luckily im with friens so I can't be too *****ed tonight. Torres was useless. I'm out
Slippy G-19
marin , lampard , torres and moses were extremely dissapointing , especially torres and lampard ... lampard really slows down our game and without a stable defensive midfielder like mikel or ramires supporting him luiz is always exposed ... it seems we are always making history nowadays
haji ahmed
Goaless draw - yuk football can be ugly sometimes. Really feel like it would be great to sack the lot off them and start from the ground up sometimes. Imagine that P45's for the lot of em the board the players the coaching staff everyone, and hand pick people that want to be there!
Clingy
Big matches coming up. Could catapult us to an easy top 3 finish or drop us out of the top 4 in consecutive years which would be an utter embarassment given the money Roman's spent
MDChelseaFan
*sighs*. QPR ruined our premier league title hopes last season and looks like they done he same this season.
The Psychic Blue l9l
That's why Harry loves it when Lampard plays. It slows the game down.
foreign_viewer
Rubbish, weak, careless, idiots embarrassing the club. Time to bench and sell some players. Luiz should go. He's crap.
foreign_viewer
Many Chelsea ans like I hate Utd but it's these types o games they win and that's why they are title contenders each season. Whereas we can't complete a game without Mata or Hazard to beat a relegation bound team.
The Psychic Blue l9l
A playmaker is a playmaker. They can be deep like Pirlo and Alonso or truly central like Xavi, Scholes and Sneijder. Problem is good CMs are so rare you cant afford to pick and choose.
OCBlues
Big matches? They don't mean squat. The season is gone. Losing to QPR is sack worthy.
foreign_viewer
Whywas the Lampard goal not given ? he did notseem offside
ZeeNut
Am not even bothered or worried cos this is the doing of Roman and his lazy board. They keep making crap decisions like wasting 50m on a finished player. I fear for Chelsea with the likes of Ron running the club. Can't even give us a new year present with a win.
SameX
we should sign SWP
dickturpin
ZeeNut, we could not do anything in 90 mins. If we would say the 30 secs wasted by QPR for the sub cost us a point at home then it only shows how inept we were.
Keyser Soze
I'm speechless !
Nobleonenoble
Roman deserves Benitez, Luiz and Torres.
Keyser Soze
Luiz can go back to defence if he keeps on breaking our attack. Absolutely MAD at him.
The Psychic Blue l9l
mikel made us to lose this match.
sunnymakcres
They didn't even try. Just lazy passes. No running. Just long range shooting. QPR were not anything special. They were not defending for their lives.
foreign_viewer
I cant stop laughing. QPR destroy the reigning European Champions. Lol! Thank you Torres.
SameX
lol@Sunnymackres. Its totally his fault. Look at that goal. no marking whatsoever . and our goalkeeper was out of position.
TheIncrediblue
We need Hiddink upstairs.
SameX
Don't blame lampard,luiz,oscar or torres mikel should av scored that goal and yet he slow down the game.
sunnymakcres
The match was lost in the most uneventful fisrst half I've ever seen ! You'd think with two wingers we'd stretch the team?? But we played through the middle with no width
Nobleonenoble
Definitely too slow in the middle of the park and Torres didn't fail to disappoint he was awful once more ;( But if we were better at finishing we'd of won that game comfortably ! Awful, frustrating game to watch I didn't enjoy one minute! Hope we can move on from this fast!!!!!!! Come on Chelsea...............
shedend
One thing I didn't see coming was Rafa falling in love with Lamps.
SameX
this is not normal, never ever have i been so dissapointed in our players
TafChels
I thought Luiz was the best thing that happened to our midfield. You all were here even suggesting we dont need to get another midfielder cos luiz had a good game against an awfully terrible AV.. past 2 games you can see that hes nothing at all. between we better go offer sacrifice to appease Mikel's .--- 3 fat cos and 3 gallons of red oil. .. This is really awful from tubby and the whole team. starting a new year this way.
TheIncrediblue
we surely must be the worst european champions ever!
peacockblue
Luiz and Ivanovic are rubbish when they try those long shots.
foreign_viewer
There is a reason why Benitez could not win the league. He is just a cup manager. Today he made an arse of himself by his team selection. What little chance we had to catch Manu is gone. Thank you Roman for hiring this moron manager and that ladyboy who plays every match. The 2 most annoying thing on this planet at this moment.
Keyser Soze
So sad we couldnt even beat the league whippin boys
Ken4CFC
How does my new team sound Neur Cole Ramos Hummels Lahm Hazard, de Rossi, Oscar, Schweinsteiger, Mata Falcao 4,5,1 jobs a goodun :) Let me be a billionaire and play playstation football I would do it properly
Clingy
For those saying Mata or Hazard should have started, please stop that ****, you are the same people that wanted Rafa to give Marin and Oscar more game time. Btw, Lamps, Luiz, Torres, Marin, Oscar, Moses are players that should destroy QPR without sweat, they played without heart, it seems they dont know Roman can also sack players.
SameX
we had enough chances to win the game, torres missed one sitter and his movement for a few crosses were reminiscent of him at his worst. If Cahill was on the end of the chances Ivanovic got we may have scored one of them. And luiz and Ivanovic took too many long shots. Spurs above us. horrible .
Mia Maynard
Please play Lampard as a striker/SS or never play him. the guy is useless at the best, zero pace, cant hold the ball for 2 sec, cant move with the ball, over 50 percent of his forward passes are intercepted. I said it before and I will say it again, nowadays no CM/DM in the world can shine while playing alongside Lampard in the pivot. the sooner the coach/board sees and accepts that the better, because lampard himself will never accept it since his.
EliteBlue
@theincredible mikel should have close down wright phillips but he was no where to be found.I just hope u guys will leave mikel to rest a bit even now that he is going to the afcon.
sunnymakcres
@theincrediblue mikel should have close down wright phillips but he was no where to be found.I just hope u guys will leave mikel to rest a bit even now that he is going to the afcon.
sunnymakcres
Time to get rid of Luiz. He can't play anywhere. Defense, he's crap. Midfield, he's crap.
foreign_viewer
QPR - A team that made Liverpool look like Barcelona
ForeverUnited
Lol @Clingy.... It should be a 4-2-3-1 with De-Rossi and Bastian in your pivot and Oscar-Mata-Hazard forming your band of 3, Falcao upfront. Wicked team. That backline is also very solid. I dont see anything passing through Hummels-Sergio combo and Lahm-Cole as full backs bombing up and down will drive the opposition defenders crazy. Keep dreaming. Lol!
SameX
oh dear Rafa why oh why did you change a winning team again cost us the three points numptey
Anarchy
@ForeverUnited... Hmmm! Words of wisdom, can you go to bed now..
SameX
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/newcastle-boss-pardew-ba-s-chelsea-move-done-3725361
ZeeNut
Please please and please, torres lost us this season before it even started. I hope this is the last time i see Torres in a chelsea jersey, we should find a way to sell him this January, as i see him as a curse to other players on the team. And it is mandatory we get ourselves 2 more strikers of quality or else we wouldn't even finish 4th.
Tugay08
It was the players lack of anything tonight that lost that game . Luiz was a joke ,Lamps was terrible ,Torres Moses and especially Marin , ALL *****E . The only mistake Rafa made was resting Mata and Hazard ,he should of done that in the cup this w/end . It was a collective ***** up tonight and EVERYONE was to blame . Im so peeeeeeed off right now ,that game was massive .
zolaisalegend
@samex,I think we share the same view, anybbody that calls oscar a 10 here is highly deluded, and there's nothing lampard contribute to the midfield other than goal poaching, which won't be happening like everton stuff. My verdict, rafael benitez won't be single handedly be criticize for his rotation policy that costed chelsea CWC and another vital 3 points, much criticizm must go to the players too, they play without zeal, imagine the price of our final third, which can build a whole team. Our weak point is primarily midfield, for xrist sake why must all teams dominate our midfield and turn them into stars? We can't hold possession for xrist sake, wish that qpr match will be torres last match to start for chelsea again. So depressed ryt now!!!
jayb
Guys i think we should blame the board not Rafa. The only thing I feel he did wrong was starting Lamps ahead of Rami.
SameX
@foreigh_viewer, Luiz and Ivanovic were trying long shots because they so frustrated every time they had the ball. when u r playing with 2 pivots it should not be a problem to find someone to pass the ball to, but with Lampard that is not the case as he stands and spreads his arms or run to look for a strike or rebound. I am not saying Lampard should take his chances, but he needs to contribute to the build up first and should not abandon the ball with the defenders and run away.
EliteBlue
Its not only one players fault its the whole teams fault
TafChels
We need an experienced head in that Board.
SameX
its good to see we lost and hope we get new good players.
habbo
Maybe Rafa should play Lamps as SS from now on.
SameX
Arry set up his team well and exploited our weakness which is lack of a forward. To consider or evem mention torres in the same sentence with a forward is a grave insult to the football profession ans the forwars worldwide in particular the fraud who prides himself as a striker can't hold the ball up front, can't dribble, can't run into good space, can't score goals (infact can't do anything to justify a 10k a week fee. Little wonder the players are turning on him). I don't blame benitez for rotating the squad, he rightfully believe that if our 2nd team is not better than qpr at the moment, they have no busIness being in oour team and roman shld do something about this now. Their was no coordination, game plan, or purpose today. Our CF was so hopeless that the commentaator was laughing at a point that the 35 year old QPR defender ( his name unmentioned) was constantly getting better of him. The same defender that went to the press the last time we met that torres was essily handled by him ( our buffoon allowed him to repeat his boast today again) benitez was qquilty of not making his subs right on time. Marin should have been off first half, mata and hazard starting the second half. And torres removed for paizon or moses replacing the idiot in Jersy 9. ( No apologies Merlin). What a hopeless criminally inept player. To have allowed drogba, sturridge, anelka, kalou to leave, lukaku to go on loan for this fraud is a disgrace and criminal inept on roman ans the board's part. This guy should be swapped for shane long or andy cole asap. He is not worthy to be swapped with falcao's boots.
Dwonder
I hope it won't be a sin if i kind of go for a little break from watching chelsea bcos of a certain imposter called torres who really is still in liverpool(suarez).
sunnymakcres
*Lampard should not
EliteBlue
Champions Of Europe beaten by the WORST team in the WORLD.. I'm ashamed of this result.
BlueFortune
we need hungry plAYERS
habbo
@Dwonder you are spont on. Torres is like a cancer in this team now, he is by far the worst forward playing in EPL.
EliteBlue
I guess nothing more than Chelsea deserve. The majority of Chelsea fans think they deserve success all the time and the way to fix any problem is to spend, spend, spend. Cotinued success comes from having stability at a football club and sticking to a certain principle and sticking to it. I'm not saying that RDM shouldn't have been sacked- I actually thought it was the correct decision but the constant merry go round which is Chelsea Football Club makes doesn't help at all. What also doesn't help is the reaction of some thick fans on here. Rafa made a gamble tonight by resting Hazard, Mata and Ramires and it didn't pay off. Lampard, Luiz and Oscar didn't move the ball quick enough and Torres looked ridiculously poor. You can all point the finger at Rafa for the changes made but the buck stops at some of the players out there today. That really was a tame and unacceptable performance- one which isn't good enough for a club like Chelsea. Bertrand isn't good enough, Luiz is an average defender and an average midfielder, Torres is abysmal, Oscar is overrated and Marin and Moses both have poor final delivery/decision making. The only real world class players Chelsea have are Mata and Hazard and without them they look slow, pedestrian and uninventive. I find it absolutely ridiculous that Rafa, RDM and even AVB don't/didn't have much of a say into who signs for the Football club. How can a Manager build something at a club when who plays for them is dictated by a man with a big wallet badly advised by other suits at the club. Your club is a complete shambles and will continue to stutter on a regular basis for as long as you have no stability.
FootballFan199025
That was the WORST performance from a professional CF that I have ever seen in my life. Crap midfield. Slow distribution. No forward movement. Just crap...its like Torres doesn't care. Need a passer playmaker in the pivot and need to bench Torres for this pitiful showing.
lamarochs
Those who are blaming the club management for not giving lampard a new deal should have a rethink. Lampard clearly cost the team 3 points today but the biggest FOOL of the night is Rafa.
papiblue
@Footballfan...Oscar is not Overrated, he is actually underrated. I have watched football enough to know real talent when i see it. People forget this is his first season in Europe and he is still adapting to the BPL and we need to discover his real position.
SameX
why did we buy this guy called torres when the original is in liverpool in the like of suarez.cfc should take liverpool to court for selling an imposter called torres.beside mikel is still at fault for slowing down our play.
sunnymakcres
Azpi is still a better right back than Iva for sure... and the goal, Mikel would have closed SWP. Luiz was no where to be found..
TheIncrediblue
@FootballFan...I agree with other things you pointed out. I blame Roman and the board more. Our problem started when we wasted all that money on a finished Torres. His arrival destroyed our season and led to the sack of gentleman Carlo who had to change his 4-3-3 system to a diamond and later to a 4-4-2 flat system to accomodate Torres.
SameX
Omg.....mehn being a chelsea fan these days is no small feat...just look at the kind off pressure u'll undergo. Laugh today & get heartbreaks in three days...
prince china
This match should be investigated for match fixing.
johnkelv
Luved the moment SWP refused to celebrate his goal. Meanin he still luv chelsea unlike his mafian brother by the name wayne bridge
prince china
Also unacceptable was the fact that our team's second goalkeeper is a hopeless man in the name of turnbull. His positioning for that goal was absymal. Loliichion shld cover his head in shame. It is the little things that win or lose championships. Hilario is beetter than that joker who conceded a a goal in that manner
Dwonder
The rotation of players was fine, with our starting lineup we SHOULD have had no problem, but we were heartless, and Torres sucks. His runs, and positioning were incredibly poor today
bleedblueSTL
@least we must learn not to underrate any team cus its very obvious from the line up. I dont think we would hav bench mata, hazard or started marin had it been we're playin the machester clubs....
prince china
Yeah, if our second team can't beat this qpr, then, definitely they are not good enough for chelsea. And I think is true, oscar is over rated, me thinks, or may be I shoiuld. Say he doesn't fit in a no 10 role.
jayb
We need strikers. After Ba we need another.
foreign_viewer
Who said oscar is overrated? Maybe torres is underrated!
prince china
We let Drogba go without replacing him, we placed all our hope on a finished Torres who had Zero confidence. He could not get us out of difficult situations in games against Swansea, Liverpool, Westham, United, QpR e.t.c... He could not score in important games that led to our shocking elimination from UCL, he had numerous chances to put us ahead in the CWC but wasted those chances until they scored. He is on 15 goals now but he should be on 30 goals by now considering the goal scoring oppurtunities and game time he has enjoyed this season. His positioning is poor, his shots are light, he cant even keep the ball. He looks to me like the poorest CF in England. We play like 10 men when he is on the pitch, his assists have dried up, he cant even get the ball past an opponent, he has lost all his pacem strength and element of surprise. BA WILL BE RUBBING HIS HANDS. City and United also conceed **** goals but the difference is they have Strikers that will do something special and win games for them even when they play bad. Honestly, I dont blame Rafa.
SameX
i stopped getting sad with our poor performances since RDM was sacked. We need to understand that the season is ruined already. Now, evrything goes..... I feel no anger whatsoever, it's obvious my feelings/emotions doesn't count.
torvicson
Really pathetic & disgustin display from my belove club....speechless
prince china
Oscar is the Brazilian starting no. 10. You need a striker to pass to when you are a no. 10. Unfortunately Torres isn't a striker anymore.
foreign_viewer
nevertheless, i pray we make the top 3 this season.
torvicson
nevertheless, i pray we make the top 3 this season.
torvicson
Get the other Fernando Torres and send the current one to Spain.
foreign_viewer
@papiblue...Rafa is no fool
SameX
Rafa is a very very stupid man
blueblood4life
I know it isn't nice to hear it but the worst thing about your club is the fact you just spend, spend, spend and then think you have the divine right to win all the time because you've spent. I much prefer a proper Football Club like Dortmund who have a stable board and manager and a style of play which has taken years to create and implement. In his first two seasons klopp finished 6th and 5th and look what he's done now. As long as Chelsea continue to chop and change Managers the same problems will emerge year after year. Roman needs to be patient and stop thinking about instant success and so do the fans. You've signed some good young players and they need continuity in management to gel them as a team in the next 2-3 years. Who cares if Chelsea don't win the league or any trophy this year. Building a football team takes time. You will qualify for the Champions League and thats really all that matters- well money wise that is.
FootballFan199025
Qpr (home & away), westbrom, westham, swansea, fulham, liverpool (presently), are winnable games we should hav collected our points but lo & behold, we fumbled. Thats the difference btw the manchester clubs & we...we fumble in games we needs to win & win games we re expected to fumble.....
prince china
Ba result
123spurs
Guys, The league title is long gone, i dont know how you lot expect Rafa to win you the league.....He failed to achieve that at liverpool despite their form back then. Anothe point is that we stand a chance of missing out on top four with FT9 leading the line. We are absolutely unserious. I have just one word for RA. GET MOU! If he plans to win anything again.
elemzy
Demba ba is a done deal-pardew
prince china
Am tired of getting disappointed
jayb
Am off to sleep.
jayb
Torres oh torres!!he doesnt score,when he scores its an unimportant goal..we need a striker who can finish chances and ba foots that bill perfectly
Ken4CFC
We always tend to lost to a club at the bottom. Leeds, Wolves, Sunderland, to name a few. And now this.
Gaban
Stupid ref, stupid linesman, stupid Benitez. Lucky for me on having a good night sleep last night
Gaban
samex go have a word with roman lol get those players in
Clingy
In the match preview thread i was very much worried about our goalkeeper..Watchin the goal over and over again am afraid ma fears were confirmed..turnbull played a huge part in costin us this game,he had little or nothin to do all night but he fumbled when called upon by swp..as for torres,i've ran out of adjectives to qualify him.right now i would take ebanks blake,jason roberts,michael owen,djibril cisse name them,all over torres.the guy is so pathetic
Ken4CFC
If u watch the liverpool game u will see how important gerrard and suarez are; compared to how useless lampard(to an extent) and torres are
Ken4CFC
If u watch the liverpool game u will see how important gerrard and suarez are; compared to how useless lampard(to an extent) and torres are
Ken4CFC
Am off to bed,hope i wont have nightmare
Ken4CFC
Am off to bed,hope i wont have nightmare
Ken4CFC
I am totally P****d off. 1) Rafa: Trusted Marin, Moses, Oscar, Lampard, Torres & Luiz to do the job, Rafa has learnt the lesson. Even Rafa made the changes BUT this Chelsea team should have beaten QPR FFS. 2) Mata: IMO Chelsea are 1 man team MATA. 3) Pivot: Lampard & Luiz were taking 3 hours to switch the play from left to right or vice versa. Lampard was constantly going forward so Oscar had to drop back to cover Lamps place that was the reason Iva was shooting from distance. 4) BUILD UP PLAY: OUR build up play was so slow WITH NO MOVEMENT UPFRONT 5) We were trying to pass the ball into the net. 6) Torres: ADEL was HOLDING the ball better than Torres. 7) PARKED BUS: QPR parked the bus, we needed one touch football from our players, lots of movement upfront, one twos, use the width, put lots of crosses in. 8) Moses was man marked. ------------------WAS RDM right to play the STRONG team all the TIME?
B2K420
9) TEMPO/PASSING: Our tempo was slow, no urgency, no desire, our PASSING was not accurate, too many bad passes.
B2K420
I think our problem is that if Mata is not in the team there is no one else who can take initiative to create goal scoring chances... The main problem we had in the game was our attacking players, their decision making was poor and I won't in anyway blame Rafa for playing this team, the only weak player was Marin... The team we fielded today should be able to beat QPR... Our wingers and attackers let us down.... We need to be patient with this team.....
Latunvic
I don't think playing the strong team all the time is the way to go..... even when playing the strong team all the time under RDM, we still lost some matches...
Latunvic
we shd get sneijder hes free and cn fill in for mata. his 150k wages are irrelevant if u think that for 2 years he wd cost 15m in wages. he is wrth like 30m and say we hv him for 4 yrs thats 30m. so it wd b like signing him for 15m nd him hving 75k a week for 4 yrs.
Humza_96
I have watched the game now and believe that tactically we were poor. QPR parked the bus and this was the right game to have Mazacar. Also I do not think Marin played that badly as sommay want to point out. This gae was not meant for a striker like Torres wholikes space because QPR jus crowded all the space he could run into and they should have taken him off and put Moses in th middle.I would have left Marin on the left, Hazard on the right and have Mata play behind Moses. Take out Lamps and have Oscar help in the pivot. This would have created the chance to play one touch fooball or touch and move more like te second half against Villa. Thats what you need against a team that parks the bus. Ivanovic was moving into midfield a lot because QPR were just sitting back. Rafa got it wrong in thi game. Marin has the potential to make a difference - just hope h will get more chances. If I was him I would be disturbed after that tackle five minutes into my first start. He was too axious toimpress and looked a bit more settled when they took him off - maybe due tohis yellow card.
BlueFortune
i hope there is an article of lamps today...about his so called leadership quality...
shlok27
FootballFan199025 - I mostly agree with you. This is a younger team that lacks leadership...Lampard is not providing much leadership...with that being said...I can't blame Rafa for the team selection. This is the last place team and if you can't play Marin for this game then WHY THE HELL did Chelsea purchase him? The players are totally to blame ALONG with the owner for insisting that this CRAP center forward (Torres) continues to play. Furthermore the BOARD has not provided enough DEPTH and shows a true organizational weakness by not purchasing the right players....WHY was Marin purchased? He can't hold up to the physical play of the EPL and he can't defend? WHY is not Piazon playing more? This kid is pure talent that needs playing time and their just jacking him around..So there are BIG issues here at this team starting with the ***** poor organization. The organization wants younger players but lacks a leader for them? The team lacks a passer/playmaker that can quarterback the pivot and yet Chelsea plays the 4-2-3-1. Lampard/Ramires are box to box perfect for the 4-3-3 and yet they play in the 4-2-3-1 system...Lampard doesn't play his position like others have stated...he is always going forward like he is playing the #10 position. This team was mentally not prepared to play this game today...Finally, Torres is pure crap...he doesn't deserve to wear the Chelsea sweater...He just stood around and his off ball movement was terrible. This team needs creativity and desire...Piazon is creative and Lukaku has passion. Watch those two compete. Right now Chelsea is WASTING their best talent with Torres crap which is directly the decision from the board and the owner.
lamarochs
I was in meetings at work all day and so missed watching the match live. I guess i did not miss much. I have learnt the hard way to always expect the worst with Chelsea FC but even i did not see this coming..i had thought a draw at the very worst. Well let me first say..those blaming this on Rafa please take a step back and look at his starting line up..seriously if that line up cannot comfortably beat a really poor QPR team that is bottom of the BPL then we have problems. The reason Rafa had to rotate the squad is obvious..come saturday we have a one of FA cup game against a south Hampton side that just drew the Gunners. The blame here is squarely on the players themselves and our board of three amigos and Roman who built this bizzare team that has no striker of any repute. Today demonstrated what i had been telling guys who had this pipe dreams of us challenging for the euopa league and challenging for the BPL..i always said it that we did not have the depth..once we go past mazacar in midfield with emphasis on mata there is not much quality beyond that, once we go past cech we are in trouble in goal, once we go past Miikel we really dont even have any other true DM right now and until Demba Ba laces it up for us we dont even have one striker ..that is how thin this squad this. Despite this the decision makers refuse to recall what talent we have out there on loan. While i am a fan i am a realist first..i said it from the get go..our singular goal now that we are out of the champions league is that we ensure we get back into it for next year..that means a top 4 finish is paramount even if it has to be at the expense of all the other available trophies..we dont have the squad depth to compete on multiple fronts and this pipe dream of competing for the BPL title is just that..a pipe dream ..not when we are talking of two Manchester sides with multiple heavy weight goal scoring options compared to our one (Ba)..i dont even bother counting el nino as a veritable goal scoring threat.
GabeU
I agree with BlueFortune...Either put Oscar in the pivot or recall Josh McEachran and get him in the pivot...SOMEONE needs to be able to pass the ball. I love Lampard but he is NOT a pivot player...If I were Lampard I would be embarrassed to be the captain of the team that lost to the worst team in the league....RAFA if your not going to play a 4-3-3 then DONT play Lampard...
lamarochs
Without RVPs goals nd assists united wd hav 26 less points and be 11th, that is wat u call a ST. not that fkin joke upfront. with studge instead of torres we wd still b in the CL and title race. i'd rather hav lambert
Humza_96
Latunvic hit the nail there when he said Mata is the most important player in our squad ( Cech too), some of the matches that we play without him, you can see the way we attack is awful, no penetration, no one wants to take the responsibility, this guy scores goal, assist and does everything basically in our attack. Marin was awful ( well considering it's his 1st or 2nd epl start? ) i can understand, Torres was extremely poor, can't even score in important matches and important games like this, Moses and Luiz was horrible, Oscar best position i think is from deep midfield ( saw him play in Brazil shirt where he play from that position), and we all know the day Cech injured is the day we're gonna be *****ed, and how true was that, did you see the awful positioning Turnbull make there, overall, we shouldn't have ever lose this kind of important games. Hope the Ba deal goes through and we get another striker, and also a player in midfield, oh and a back up keeper and we are set to go
chelsea44
I think for now, we should play Mata in every game if we intend to win.... Manutd can rely on any of RVP, Rooney and Hernandez to make things happen, their attack is their strength.... Liverpool plays almost every game with Suarez as he's their reliable game changer... our's for now is Mata, so I'll suggest we play him in every game... I think Marin is a wrong investment, the problem I had with the purchase of Moses is the fact he's not a game changer, he's not one who can make things happen, all our forward players are just to ordinary and passive.... We may have to be patient for a year or two before we can expect consistent good performances from this group of players.... We need to get a back up for Ba cos I dont count Torres as our striker...
Latunvic
I agree a top 4 finish is our only hope now... It seems we need about 3 to 4 new signings to even make the top 4.. We obviously can make all the amends now. I think our defensive midfield and defense are still manageable till the end of season, our major downside is the attacking midfield and attack. I'll suggest we sign 2 more players and my picks are Moutinho and anyone of Walcott/Bony/Schurrle....
Latunvic
**** obviously can't make****
Latunvic
what kind of fans do we have??? so we can see a loud 16th min clap next match...hahaha...people praising rafa now slamming him after 1 bad match...yes, we were crap, but Rafa did the right thing in rotating the players...how many matches do you want mata and hazaard to play...
Blu_run
I saw only the 1st half and switched off the TV after getting frustrated...The most frustrating figures yesterday were Oscar, Ivanovic, Lampard, Luiz in the order...I dont consider torres in the list as he is a permanent one in that and always top it...
Blu_run
Why there is no interview from Lampard or his agents, or no newspaper is talking about him and his contract today...o sorry, he performed so badly yesterday...they will now wait till he performs and then they will start again...LOL
Blu_run
Lol, I slept well last night, I am happy. Now the board and Rafa can clearly see Lamps can be decieving, Luiz is not a pivot player, Marin's injuries are killing him(we should accept the offer from Bayer and get Schurlle), Oscar is better in the Pivot he would have done better than Lamps alongside Luiz. Ba will be a great signing but he will play too many games if we dont get a player to share the games with him cos Torres is finished.
SameX
One more thing, Rafa needs to know Mata and Rami are his main players not Lamps, Luiz, Torres and Moses, without them we are toothless. One of the 2 should be on the pitch at any given time.
SameX
hopefully we recover from this shock and play well to win at southampton...it will be a audition to the game which we have on hand (the one we need to win at all cost to maintain a cushion for 3rd place)
Blu_run
I just hate everybody right now :(
zosBlue
sell torres... get lewandowski... i am really gutted v dint go for van persie in d summer! he has been d difference really... where wud manure b widout his goals! n v have dat blonde girl playing upfront
peacockblue
I dont really care about Lamps, we should let him go and get an experienced DM that can defend and pass. Push Luiz back to CB and move Oscar to CDM. If we can get a CF that can score goals we will not need Franks goals mark my words.
SameX
torres doesnt have shame at all....one big shameless guy he is....ba representative were asking 2 million why not give them torres and say sell him and whatever you gets wit his sale all that is yours....
shlok27
rotation is for everyone except for lamps and torres...cant beleive how can a coach keep them playing inspite of their poor performance game after game....i honestly believe roman fecked our season first by his crazy demand of playing torres in each and every match and second by not persisting with a manger for a whole season...
shlok27
@ shlok27... you are damn ryt... i v had a quality striker he wud hav won us d game yesterday
peacockblue
i am sick of seeing how many games manure have won coz of der strikers... dat is d differnce.. 1 chance n dey score.. unlike our white elephant!
peacockblue
feck...with rafa at the helm...expect a roller coast ride. feck. i hate everything and everyone...the pain is too much...torres is our curse...so is rafa...we cannot afford not to start oscmathaz..
Gian-Franco/Luca
Everytime we lose,the blame game begins,pining the blame on certain players or the manager is totally wrong. I agree that rotation sometime doesn't help team play and understanding,but QPR wasn't our opponent yesterday,complacency was. Complacency from the manager,players and fans included. The supporr at the bridge was annoying to say the least,the performance by the players was *****,and the timing of the subs was a bit too late to change things. My greatest fear now is how ***** we are without Mata and Hazard on the pitch,Mata's creativity was greatly missed to split the QPR defence. The Europa League hasn't even started yet and our squad depth is being tested immensely.
nelyvanile
You can't pin the blame on certain players. Yes Torres was ***** poor yesterday,but most of the players were. Its a team fail,Management included.
nelyvanile
Our place as the worst european champion has now been cemented...tbh i dont think our midfield is the problem,yes mikel is slow,ramires cant pass,luiz is wasteful,lampard is anonymous but the fact is we create enough chances that a decent striker would tuck in,unfortunately what we have upfront is the worst striker in the world who cant even score to save his life.roman please get us a decent striker and our problem is 80% solved
Ken4CFC
Rafa is not just a fool he is mad for loosing this game. A PL game no mata the opposition is not the best to rest your key players more so when we have couple of winnable game in FAcup and C1cup next. Every team have a spine for CFC right now its mata,when fit he should start every game just as Rooney will start for manu anytime if fit and its in the best interest of the team to let Lampard go ASAP.
papiblue
Samex you are so correct, lampard just comes, decieves us with a goal and legend worshipers start their 'sign him up' chants all over again. I hope roman doesn't fall for this. And for torres, there's nothing more to be said about him, i think he'd be better off as a carpenter or model, not football. I can't wait for ba to come, we'd get falcao too in the summer and offload torres for 5 mil.lol. I was so gutted and unhappy yesterday. So sad.
LeyemovicH
22 attempts at goal with none put in that is the problem,this was a must win game and we thought it was a gimme, we grafted at everton but here we never looked like it. so disappointing we have not got quality in deepth, i was looking forward to marin but what has happened to him,tittle is over for me we have to make sure we get top 4 finish
herefordchelsea
I dreamt torres scored 40 goals this season lol
jayb
@jayb...we can only dream of torres scoring that much...lol...Waiting for Summer when we can offload him.
Blu_run
@jayb...we can only dream of torres scoring that much...lol...Waiting for Summer when we can offload him.
Blu_run
We are in a situation where we lack alternatives upfront and at the back. We should have acted on this issue in the summer because soon all our title charges are at an end. Turnbull had a good game and he wasn't at fault for the goal. It must be stressed that he wasn't much tested. I don't have much trust in him and we shouldn't have any weak links in the squad. Are Demba Ba and his knees deciding our season? Hmm...
1970Blue
You all saying Marko Marin did not do anything are just plain foolish I'm sorry to say, what game were you lot seeing, most the analysis here are bogus, Luiz did not receive any help from Lampard defensively, i thought the back line did well, Ceaser, Cahil, Ivanovic and Bertrand. Oscar too played great, Moses didn't do too well and Lampard didn't track back regularly. Torres shouldn't even be mentioned these days as we tend to play with 10 Men now. Substitution wise, i felt Rafa should have left Marin on a little bit longer, withdrawn Moses for Hazard, taken off Lampard for Mata and dropped Oscar to pair with Luiz in the pivot. These changes could have helped our course greatly, Marin made the best chances in that game, his perfect cross after a delightful shimmy to remove the defender from the equation, a cross that Moses should have buried. Marin's crosses were pin point if only we had a real striker instead of a blonde headed scarecrow. I applaud Rafa for his squad rotation policy and hope he continues with it, as this would increase the confidence of all our players including Ross Turnbull. We should learn how to play without MaZaCar all the Gaddem time.
Tugay08
was at the game last nigh and it was shocking to say the least! i don get how people can moan when rafa rotates a few players aainst a team that hasnt won all season then comes to stamford bridgeand beats the european champions!you expect to win these gmnes! these are normally home bankers!! marin,moses,oscar and especially david luiz all were terrible. ivanovic was the only bright thing in a totally shambolic team display. i nearly had a few punch ups with some "arm chair" chelsea fans at the groud and on twitter as all they ere saying was it was all torres' fault??? rely the poor guy looked totally tired and over played,plus he got so all service and the one shot he did have julio pulled off a great save!! its obviuls that we cannot rest hazard an mata as muc as we would lik as they just make us tick. oscar has gone so far off he boil its untrue its like watching another player to the man who was mustadr at the start of the season.will be interestingto see the teams for fa cup and the capital one cup! we need to win them both now big time! then stoke then arsenal! squeky bum time at the bridge!
Dave-David
Marin's little move and a perfect pass to Moses should have been a goal. :/
zg2000fs
Bleedbluestl I agree with you 100 starting 11 was fine, the subs were...but the guys lacked heart on so many levels...Torres is a cancer that's killing the whole team...if he was lethal then Marin would have passed to him instead of Oscar when he collected the ball in QPR's half and hit them on a counter...a season ago we would pass Drogba whenever we could even when he was in tight situations cause we knew he would make something of it...If your team mates can't trust you with the ball then you must know something is off...Marin was very erratic only cause he is so eager to please but when was playing his game, he had QPR in 6's and 7's...I see a team with Hazard and Marin on at the same time as dangerous as ribery and robben...we just need a gomez up there, I pray Ba can be that...
Number#25
Dave-david, u certainly jinxed us,u were warned not go near the bridge because of your records this season(u know what i mean)..lolz
Ken4CFC
Dave-David Should be Mobbed for not adhering to the "stay away from the bridge" warning... All in favour say "Aye"....... Lol!
Tugay08
Since Michael Ballack departed this club, we've continued to lose midfield battles against the big boys and any Tom Dick and Harry midfield who know how to sit back or press intelligently. We've also continuously struggled in the Premier League. This is the 3rd season now since his departure and we are what? 13 points behind Man U...We don't even look close to closing the gap between us and them. Since Drogba's departure, we've needed miracles to beat the big boys. Yesterday was shocking. We were slow, lethargic and build up was just nonsense. Blaming Luiz and Lampard is just myopic. They are 2 midfielders who don't fit the pivot. I am also glad this Luiz in the Pivot has been tested because it will once and for all KILL ALL THIS LUIZ IN THE CENTRAL MIDFIELD TALK. He can't pass; can't tackle and is just running around confusing himself and Lampard. Expecting the players we had on the pitch yesterday to beat QPR just because it is QPR is the arrogance and complacency nelyvanile is speaking of. How about the simple fact that QPR was balanced and we weren't???? Plus they took their chances while we had minus 1 upfront. The mistake we are making is to assume Demba Ba will be enough, but we need more than Demba. At least 1 scorer upfront and most importantly a CENTRAL MIDFIELDER THAT UNDERSTANDS PASSING, SETTING TEMPO AND CAN DEFEND. David Luiz and Oscar are NOT IT. Oscar is more of a Kaka type midfielder (scorers) than a playmaker. Milan Badelj WAS AVAILABLE AND we let the fella move to Hamburg where he's been sensational.
KAKUfrank
myself and some other folks with good insights have said Luiz in midfield will require a slow and steady easing in process, I still believe Luiz can play in the midfield maybe not DM more like a box2box to me...i dont see Luiz developing that discipline to play in the DM role majorly bcos he is an iimpulsive player which could be a positive for other positions on the pitch but not the DM...I think Tubby is taking the Luiz experiment a bit too far and too fast...Luiz cant have learnt the art of playing in midfield after just a handful of games...like @Kaku said..we dont need to delude ourselves, we need a ball playing deep lying playmaker who can also do a job defensively asap...a player in the mould of Arteta...,I hope the club do not gamble about it...this Luiz experiment should hit a pause now...we cant afford to gamble and not make top 4...its just too important for the club....in a different story, news going around has it that Pep has decided where he'll go next summer and its not chelsea...popular rumour is Mancity...so who will be in charge next year?..hell knows we need to stop this manager merigoround so that our youths can have a chance...and we can have some stability...i am getting fed up already
layorh12
I can now see that our involvement in the Europa could be bad news for our champions League qualification unfortunately Rafa will want to prove he is a top manager by winning a cup or two . An injury to Mata and bad moment part two would be in effect. Oscar would have been better in the pivot than Lampard imo can dictate the pace of play like he did against Leeds but then again it was Leeds.
Anarchy
sometimes I hate football because of this: win away against tough opposition, lose the next game at home against bottom club
keka
@Keka,,you dont need to hate football, you only need to hate Tubby because he has been that way - ''win against tough opposition, lose the nest game against bottom club''...since his liverpool days...
layorh12
Falcao going to Real Madrid? http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/chelsea-shocker-atletico-president-confesses-real-madrid-deal-falcao-3726751#.UOWFO6z6nIU We need to sign Willian/Isco so we can give Mata some rest, BENAT for Pivot, sign Demba Ba & 1 more powerful striker. ********MARIN: Torres ran outside the 18 yard box when Marin created this good chance, Marin was lucky as that was a really bad tackle.******OSCAR: He plays much better with Mata & Hazard.
B2K420
Hahaha... yeah football could be crazy sometimes.... For me, Luiz wasn't a big problem in yesterday's game, moreover, what better option do we have in the absence of mikel and romeu... Those who should be flogged are the attacking four we fielded for that game (Marin, Oscar, Moses and Torres). I have said and will continue to say, Moses and Marin are not reliable/dependable players yet, maybe in 2 years time they will but for now they are not, so we practically played with one partly reliable attacking player in Oscar as Torres doesn't even exist. Look guys, even if we get the world's best DM and deep-lying play makers and our attacking four play the way they did yesterday, we will still fail to score and probably lose the match... compare our Marin-Moses-Torres to Liverpool's Sterling-Suarez-Downing, not much difference individually but suarez and even little sterling can be relied upon to make things happen, now they've added sturridge to that... manutd's midfield is not exceptional but their attack makes the difference, compare hernandez, RVP, valencia, rooney and A. young with our own attacking players and you will see the difference is they have more than one game changer upfront... Bottom line, our attacking players are too ordinary for now.... only Mata cuts it...
Latunvic
I really don't know what to say, and I won't say I told u so, cos it'll be pointless, what I want cfc to do is 1) get a worthy director of football with hiddink or any other experienced hand, 2) solve the managerial instability, either give rafa a permanent job or give the next manager a 3-5 years,3) we need to tweak our team, sell off the liabilities and bring in world class and hungry players, prune the squad, offcourse its not a knee jerk thing, we should take it a step at a time and do it latest in the coming summer, bayern's squad oozes with class and they prune it every season, compare their current squad with ours and u'll see the difference in class
Desmondadonis
Our midfield is crap but we are creating bucket full of chances game after game but our #9 either fluffs them or is non existent..as for our pivot,even if we resign makelele,he would flop there with lampard as his partner..we've partnered lampard with virtually everyone and he has made them look terrible courtesy of his lack of pivotal discipline
Ken4CFC
@Latunvic: You have a point, 1) I can guarantee you we would have won the match if only Demba Ba was playing instead of Torres, 2) Moses & Marin are no world class players, final ball is not that good, finishing is not good, Mata is only world class player, I hope Hazard gets better, Hazard, Oscar & Mata bring the best out of each other maybe that is the reason why RDM was playing them all the time. We need to get Willian/Isco.
B2K420
 

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