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Isco - A Done deal?

Speculation is rife that Chelsea have moved swiftly to secure the services of a promising young Spanish midfielder.

The tabloid press are reporting that a deal, in the region of £15 million, has been done to bring Malaga`s exciting Spanish U21 midfielder Isco to Stamford Bridge.

Malaga, looking to bring in some cash to pay outstanding tax bills, have seemingly been tempted by Chelsea`s offer.

However, there does appear to be some confusion as to when the player, if the deal has been concluded, will arrive at Stamford Bridge with a source inferring that Isco will remain in Spain until the end of the season.




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Date:Sunday January 6 2013

Time: 1:10PM

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Was going to post this rumour earlier , but decided to err on the side of caution as it didnt seem firm enough . I hope this is true, as he is a player that is much sought afterand it seems like a good reasonable price
Blue_Mel
Isco is a great player but I'm not sure if he wud fit in our system, cant wait for d summer where we wud have a long-term coach.....The future seems great with this young attacking talents, all we need now is a striker 4 d future, a gud cb and a gud dmf and we're all set for d future
chokoz_cfs
I think spain is the next world power of football after brazil, the players they keep producing keeps other teams wary and clubs excited, in a team where mata with all his magic aint starting, same with cazorla atimes, munian is no where near, so is benat, now this new phenomenon called isco, isco, benat and munian are the next best thing coming out of spain and to be linked to chelsea is an honour and show they recognize both our football prowess over the decade and our fat wallet, my opinion is we should get who we know we need and play them, if we get isco,we can loan him back to malaga for 2 years, we'll gain from the deal on the long run and if we don't need him, we can resell for profit, but 20m euros right now is a steal for a player of his talent, he'll surely worth 30m pounds soon!! There is also this feeling that they might mistaken this deal for the benat's deal as 20m euros is being quoted for the duo, the reason I am thinking we can pull it off is that we have a spanish coach who might be the decisive factor
Desmondadonis
@ Blue_Mel: I agree with you, this is just a rumour I don't think this will happen. We need a QUALITY player for the pivot who can distribute FIRST TIME DEFENSE SPLITTING PASSES TO Demba Ba.
B2K420
A very creative player, but I would be surprised if he was available a) at the reported price, and b) without major competition from other clubs. I smell the odour of story placement to generate interest, maybe from Isco's agent, or Malaga. If we have secured his signing my opinion of Emenalo will improve, admittedly from a very low base.
colourtheisblue
I think that this is actually a good deL if it is true. We always need at least 2 of Mazacar playing and we saw that against QPR. BY signing Isco, we will be yet another addition to that trio and we can always afford to play 2-3 of them. Also, we are expected to sign two more players after Demba Ba. One expected to be an Isco type player and another being a pivot type player. I'd like Pjanic.
ChelseaLover123
we need a midfield general
haji ahmed
You never can say, with CFC, anything can happen!.... I don't think it's just a rumour, we probably must have made some inquiries and just weighing our options.... Though I don't think a player like Isco is our top priority for now.. I was discussing with some other fans who believe signing Isco is a good move, reasons being that, we need another player who can run the show when Mata is not on the pitch or is having an off day, Isco fits in well... They also claim we will be in serious trouble if Mata picks up an injury also adding that a club like chelsea need at least 2 good players for every position... Some say Isco can also play on the wings and can be utilized as a deep-lying playmaker, I don't know how true that is???
Latunvic
Ture talk we don't really need him,maybe they want to keep buying midfielders because they excel most at chelsea,we don't really need him but come to think of it barcelona has most of the best players in the world both at academy level and first team level but they are still linked with the likes of neymar.... Its true we have enough players stocked at the CAM position with kdb and piazon.....I just hope and pray the board does what is right for the club,I would still love to see a benat but isco is most welcome too
Hazard11
The last player (Aquilani) Rafa signed from was CRAP. Pjanic plays for Roma, Deja vu anyone?
B2K420
Heard city has launched a 45m pounds bid for cavani and tottenham is closing in on damiao...,well if that is true and their bids are successful then I am scared,man utd will have v.persie,rooney,chicharito and welbeck,city will have aguero,tevez,dzeko and cavani,spurs will have defoe,adebayor and damiao.......we need a falcao then if we must compete....don't be scared english teams that are sensible won't suffer ffp due to the 55% increase tv deal that the epl has with skysports,so more money coming in,since money is shared equally among the teams that results in a 55% increase in our tv income alone....*smiles*
Hazard11
Isco u are welcome to cfc if its true
habbo
I'll say this as an opinion, if chelsea is successful in signing isco or benat, then I am very certain a manager in pep's mould is pulling the strings behind the scene
Desmondadonis
*Rafa signed from ROMA*
B2K420
How will Isco fit in out current team, what will happen to Oscar? >>>>Torres used to make those runs when he joined us but now he knows WE ARE NOT DIRECT so he stopped making those runs. When I watched Ba in the first 30 mins it reminded me of Torres when he joined us i.e. when Torres used to make the runs nobody passed the ball to him first time (or he FELL OVER) as we are/were not direct. >>>>You watch ManU how they score goals because they are *DIRECT*! again *DIRECT!* (i.e. their build up play/attack is not slow like ours) they put FIRST TIME CROSSES, they SWITCH PLAY from left to right or right to left QUICKLY, they have players (Carrick, Scholes & Giggs) who have DEFENSE SPLITTING passes in their locker (Watch Giggs pass for ManU's 2nd Goal & you will know what I am on about). >>> IMO we will *WIN* more games if our play is DIRECT i.e. we don't dwell on the ball (if we do than teams will play like QPR and we will draw or loose most of those games). >>>Ba would have scored more goals, he made some wonderful runs (I know that because he is not s***** Torres who can't hold the ball up, Ba's 2nd goal where he held off the defender who got injured whereas Torres would have been on the floor or the defender would have nicked the ball) if we were more direct.
B2K420
The way this news was widely reported, there might be some element of truth in it. Maybe chelsea just made an inquiry cos malaga is certainly disposed to selling and chelsea might just see it as an opportunity to grab another exciting young talent with qualities to be a future world beater. However like most have already said, that is not our piority and considering the fact a certain piazon who i believe is on par with isco but for lack of playing time, i think that €20million can better be utilised to strength our most pressing need in the pivot. The difference between isco, raheem sterling and piazon is that the first 2 are already playing with regularly with their first team thereby developing and improving their games while piazon is still with the youth team. When he came on against aston villa, is quality was very obvious to see. A regular stint with the first team like sterling at liverpool is what the lad offer to take is game to the next level.
Chelz Akamz
Sounds like crap news. What's the use of Isco? We have Mata, Hazard, and Oscar already. Oscar can't see a game. Where will Isco fit? Waste of Chelsea money. Deploy the resources elsewhere.
KAKUfrank
Guys..Mikel and moses just reported to the super eagles camp in Portugal...and Mikel has undergone two trainng sessions with the national team..so what is happening.?...why was Mikell not listed for our last three matches if he was fit?...I hope this is not a coach-player issue that Tubby is well known for...we dont need that at all (if that is the case)...he is interim and should please play our best players and leave watever personal issues aside....although i am not 100% certain what is actually happening...but it does seem like somthing is not right...I hope my intuitions have no basis...
layorh12
@the super eagles team doctors actually claims Mikel is super-fit...strange stuff!!!
layorh12
@layorh12 mikel is not cfc material so better shut up, mikel played more than 178 game without agoal
habbo
Do we really need isco?? No we dont..we are stocked in that department,lets address our urgent need which is a cdm and another striker
Ken4CFC
@habbo,is mikel a striker?? Is goalscorin his responsibility??..if he is not chelsea quality then how come he racked up over 178 app,are the managers and board blind??
Ken4CFC
@habbo...you are clearly a child still busy with taking milk from your mum's tit...'ll choose to ignore your comment...telling me to shut up?...nothing can be more disgraceful really...but'll let it pass....wont go down the path of cheap jibes with you...certain folks on here do not have the minimal intelligence level required to relate and discuss with other folks on the forum..even when in disgreement...the new year is the time to grow up...learn kid!
layorh12
Training with a team doesn't mean a player is match fit.... moreover, Nigerian coach maybe ready to field a non- match fit Mikel because he has no alternative while CFC coach is not ready to do same...
Latunvic
@layo, Mikel came off with a knock against Norwich, for a player departing for a tournament in less than a fortnight it is necessary he was given a rest to recuperate before going away to represent his country.
RayBell
@Latunvic...great point and i do agree....hopefully there will be more clarity after afcon...if we actually sign a midfielder before then...all the better for the team...we'll see...
layorh12
@Raybell @Latunvic..you guys just allayed ma worries..great tots really
layorh12
Haha.... Sampdoria's attackers making a fool of Buffon, 2 great goals which I feel Buffon should have saved on his good day....
Latunvic
mikel is one of the luckiest players in the world
habbo
@layorh12 u r funny n hope u add me with more insults thanks my teacher
habbo
honestly, I don't see the need for Isco in our team. With the wealth of attacking midffielders at our disposal and also currently on loan everywhere, we should be looking at reinforcements purely were we need it ( pivot and and CF) and not just chase every new kid on the block.
Dwonder
@Habbo...my sincere apologies if you do feel insulted...its just that its never nice and civil to use words like ''shut up''...even when we disagree...instead, we could have started a more intelectually stimulating debate...no beef!
layorh12
@layorh12 ok , thanks am sorry2
habbo
@layorh12 ok , thanks am sorry2 and am happy juve lost
habbo
omg, better try El Shaarawy for 20m or even more, its unlikely but try it...
che-l3k1
Is this a kindergarten forum.
THEBREEZE
mmm thought the obi mikel thing was a bit strange. you know all the regulations stating if you are not fit for your club then you don't join your country's training etc. there certainly could be alot more to this than we are being told. and sturridge? where was he for the last two months? injures we were told. somehow i don't think so. could be that the jack the lad spat out his dummy about not being in the team before torres. he joins looserpool and suddenly he's fit and raring to go. bit strange if you ask me. again i feel whatever might have happened behind the scene was not made public. just a thought.
trueblue44
and sturridge have even scored a goal on debut
ChampionBlue
@trueblue44...yeah its a possibility...but as other folks have also said..it could be that Mikel needed to rest...like a said earlier..there will be a lot more clarity after afcon...'m crossing my fingers!..
layorh12
For ur information, mikel no matter how good or bad u lot think he is, would not stroll into the nigerian team, he'll earn the right to start and not waltz, when we have nosa igiebor,nwakwo obiora,joel obi and a few others fighting it out with him to start!... By the way, mikel was injured as someone said in the norwich game and had a late fitness test before being dropped as per tabloids before our last game, I am not worried at all about him, he'll always start games under any manager
Desmondadonis
GBAM @Desmond.he's still the best we got
obimikelisdbest
@Desmond...its true there are some good Players in the national team...but we both know that, Mikel wont be dropped except he is injured..he is a class above all the other ones...and the coach knows this.
layorh12
LOL, rafa just keeps DOING THE RIGHT THING!(well mostly!) 1st he starts playing marin, 2nd he buys BA, 3rd he drops mikel :) and don't get it twisted guys mikel's been DROOOOPPPEEEDDDD!!!! i mean One start + luiz at DM since rafa took over doesn't exactly scream key player! only down side is oscar playing less :( , but then again it's given us the opportunity to see just how good mosses is, so it's all round good decisions from rafa me thinks! i couldn't do better it's like his reading me mind this guy! it's so annoying! :) (especially the mikel part! cant stop smilling when i see the team sheets these days)
pego sama
And love the Francisco Román Alarcón Suárez deal if, indeedy it's true, by the way if you've watched ISCO you'll realise that the boy is just as effective at CM, his kinda like ramsy or willshire at arsenal, and Demba BA aint GOING TO The afcon tournament his team got knocked out, just in case someone thinks his going :)
pego sama
Mikel didn't play at first due to the ban, and he was dropped in the CWC which we lost pathetically, the coach realised his errors and brought him back for norwich where he got injured, and only started trainning with the first team 2 days ago, so that doesn't mean mikel have been dropped :-)
Desmondadonis
So u want us to buy someone that is like ramsey?? Ramsey is horrible
Ken4CFC
mobi.supersport.com/football/africa-cup-of-nations/news/130106/Mikel_leads_Eagles_flight_to_Afcon
Desmondadonis
thanks@Desmond..thats an important link you posted...clearly what @Latunvic and @Raybell said seems to be the case...Mikel just came back from injury and Tubby dint want to gamble with playing him in our last match....and like i said earlier..there will be more light on the situation once AFCON is concluded...
layorh12
do not need isco but still think we should get him for £15m! which is his current buy out clause.
MrDax
We have major issues at cm. we could have gone into the season with 6 cm/dm players instead we went in with 4, just like strikers we went in with 2 and we still have 2. Now I'm trying to think out aloud here, if your going to sell miereles and loan Essien, then surely you need to add more numbers to that area. Ramires, lampard, mikel and romeu. Now mikel is off at ACON, romeu is injured and Ramires and lampard aren't exactly the best in DM positions. This has now resorted to luiz being converted to DM of which I think he's too shaky. Why do I feel a panic buy coming on. I suppose we planned it that way because we want to play a certain way. At 3.5m Mohamed diame I think could be a very useful addition. So isco, is not really a necessary problem that needs solving. 7.5m for Ba, 3.5m for diame and 16m for benat seems like pretty good business for the rest of the season don't you think, and they don't have to be the biggest names to be class players do they!
Blue1989
you guys need to check this guy out his name is Jordy Clasie he's 21 plays for feryernood for a young boy he's one hell of defensive midfielder, he's very agressive when he tackles, he can also send all those long range passes we've craving for. here is a clip of him on youtube- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhX_OfBheQ0
blue-joe
dont need him. oscar/hazard/oscar are all better. whilst KDB/Marin can be better. and theres piazon/kakuta. really dont need or want him
Humza_96
I am sorry guys. Isco is a good player but we dont need his or his type of player..we have excess there , Apart from Mazacar we also have marin and Moses and then there is KDB...this smells like another signing driven by our board with doubtful import to any long term plan. Any astute observer knows where the big needs are and that is what you address in January windows if you are wise. Our needs are another striker, a back up good no 2 goal keeper and a DM. When we have addressed all these then luxury buys can be considered..any way we say what we will but those guys we will do what they like regardless.
GabeU
you guys need to check this guy out his name is Jordy Clasie he's 21 plays for feryernood for a young boy he's one hell of defensive midfielder, he's very agressive when he tackles, he can also send all those long range passes we've craving for. here is a clip of him on youtube- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhX_OfBheQ0
blue-joe
Oh and its Hazards birthday.
choc ice.
Everything is pointing to the fact that Demba BA will go very far and be very important for the club barring injuries...Apart from the fact that he is a good striker, he seems to have good values and a lot of humility...this is what he has to say '''I'm here to help the group and the team; it's not about taking the position of someone else. I know Fernando is the main man. I've just come, I will learn from people and I will learn from him as well because his history is much bigger than mine.'''(Cfc website)......I find this statement very interesting...Ba will be playing for chelsea under ZERO pressure...and when he is like that...he'll function at his very best...I expect him to go far......good times...
layorh12
Now hazard is 22 years old!!!! Oscar 21, moses 22, mata 24,marin 23, piazon 18, future looks bright really
Desmondadonis
if the price is 15m, then go for it...there is no harm in having a player of Isco's quality...We need such depth in our squad...As of today, if Mata is not playing, we are struggling to dictate the game ticking towards us...Hazard, Oscar are good with passes, vision, but they are not on the same level as Mata who can single-handedly dictates the game...maybe Isco is the answer for us....
Blu_run
@Desmond..Azpi 23, Ramires 25, Luiz 25, Cahill 26, Coutuois 20, Josh 20, KDB 21, Mikel 25, Bert 23, Lukaku 19, Wallace 18....hmmmm...we already have a team for the future and are near sorted for the next decade...Asides arsenal...no other team in the ELP can compare....makes me kinda appreciate Roman and Emenalo...they have not done badly to be honest...and if i am to add the fact that we'll still spend cash on at least 1-2 world class player every single season..the future is mouth watering...this list of players gives some interesting perspective...!!!...chelsea!!!
layorh12
how can I forget Chalobah 18...he definitely deserves a special mention..lol
layorh12
Rafa still has to work on players best position...
Blu_run
I think Oscar will start more in pivot, if we get Isco.
Blu_run
Recent events appears to suggest we will be concluding the transition (largely) at the end of this season...which i think is actually some good news and an important achievement..pretty fast as well...to compare, I took a peep at the two milan clubs who are also in transition...and i think we are doing well....a lot of thanks to 19/05/2012...
layorh12
Isco no doubt is a sensational midfielder and will prove to be a solid alternative to any of Mata,Moses and Hazard. But am afraid we are overloading the triumvirate,with the likes of Marin,Oscar and Piazon finding game time minimal,i don't see it as ideal to sign another youngster in that department. I think Oscar particularly is getting unhappy,and the earlier a position that makes for a regular starting berth is created for him the better for his relationship with the club. He is a player that wants to be involved always. And also,am worried the overall age level of our squad is getting too tender. The team is looking more and more like the fruitless beauty Arsenal of the past few years. Going for another young player,we cant possibly have them all,every exciting kid suddenly pops up in our wishlist,whereas the ones on hand are yet to be established. Lets use that money to fund the reinforcement of other more ailing areas of the team.
Ohans
@layorh yea, the future looks ever bright, if you add 17 year old islam feruz to that list, reuben loftus cheek, alex kiwomya, lewis baker and swift into the mix, chelsea will surely make profit too from any of this player's sale, (i.e) if they don't make the first team cut! If we buy isco and he gets to be better than mata or oscar (wishful thinking), won't it be good if we have him in our books? when we can have him for a steal now for 15m pounds than going for him for (35m) in two years, the ones that their development is growing in a snail's pace can be sold off! Besides this transfer window is the only window where we can buy lavishly, starting from next summer FFP will kick in(I guess), and we'll start complying with it first with the sale of torres!! Another point is that when mata is not on form like he is for over a couple of weeks now, its not possible isco or any other playmaker would also be out of form, the only person that might lose out if this deal work is KDB who I admire a lot, but surely we can't sell him for the 9m pounds we bought him giving his progress now can we? Atleast he is worth about 15-20m pounds now, that is making profit IMO, the same goes for isco if we buy him for 15m now and perhaps loan him back for 6 months to malaga, we can assess him through preseason, and decide to loan him back or keep him if he makes a difference, bottom line is that he'll be worth over 25m in a year or two, good business if u ask me, piazon was bought for about 7.5m euros, now he is worth 15m euros and can still go up if he completes his development, we are not buying to play them alone, we can also buy to make profit
Desmondadonis
Chelsea have just agreed a fee for Taison who is another forward and is only 5'4ft! lol never seen him play so can not comment
MrDax
Can anyone decribe Taison?
choc ice.
he is 5'4 in height! thats all i can say about him!
MrDax
This Habbo is talking nonsense. IS Mikel a striker? stupid talks. He is not paid to score goals? if you talk something like this, i rate you very, very low
teepie
Well we've agreed a deal for isco and taison if the tabloids are reliable, I don't care, I know they can't all play, so may the best player play, hope we get a deep lying playmaker, is taison one? Thought he was a CAM, nice from demba ba... soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1290959?cc=5739
Desmondadonis
MrDax, where did you get that?
Ohans
MrDax, where did you get that?
Ohans
Maybe getting him will prove wonderful
Kendemsblue
About Taison (from what i have seen and know): First of all - i would take him with my eyes closed! Amazing talent on the ball, dribbling skills amazing, tempo (not from this world), also not so bad in defence, and his biggest plus is that he never gives up! As i said - with my eyes closed!!!!! Can play on either flanks and also trough the middle. Strongest position: Left winger - cutting inside!
austriablue
Guys i always knew we were after Taison...and that was confirmed in the most recent interview Taison gave where he said he spoke to the ownner, there was some aura of certainty about that interview...His stats were posted here on the forum...and i was not impressed so i decided to do a bit of personal digging....Taison is also an midget (built is close of Moses/ more like Hazard) and plays across the attacking midfield similar to MACAHARD...He has not scored a lot of goals but he has scored some unbelievable goals...strikes the ball well with some really good finishing...my major worry that i observed is that his left leg is very weak, he does not use to do anything..if the ball falls to it..he does a turn to revert to the other leg most of the time which could make him predictable ...(very similar to FT9 in that regard)...I dont know how much of a limitation that will be but i dint like the look of it...I know players have a weaker leg but the very good players can use the weaker to a decent extent....Hazard, Oscar, Moses--uses both legs decently well...Mata's right is weak but defo not as weak as Taison's left from what i have seen...he has been bought to cover the right position obviously...if we sign Isco..what makes sense if for Oscar to drop into the double pivot which is not bad but will require some time...we'll wait and see....
layorh12
'll say Taison for 10m is value...quite cheap if i am to be honest...
layorh12
Cant stop liking BA....most recent quote..''Each time I've arrived at a club, it's always been as back-up striker. And each time, through hard work, I've imposed myself."...oozing both humility and the strength to compete...FT9 needs to step up a couple of notches...or has reasons to be genuinely worried...m looking on with a lot of interest...
layorh12
Taison isnt a bad player at all, i think he can be like willian, only Taison is cheaper!!. i hope we dont forget that we need a midfielder too unless taison means that oscar players in the pivot now.
Blue1989
@layorh, his stats are just too poor, though I haven't seen him play, I wish u'll post a link here so I'll know more about him, aint it strange that sky sports have posted that we have agreed a fee for 3 players under 4 days? Benat,taison and isco, I am so confused
Desmondadonis
@Desmond...did sky sport post that ew agreed a fee for Benat??...i am not aware...raising my hopes a bit more..lool...as per the taison link, honestly i went through a lot...more than 10..cos i wanted to form an opinion...but'll look for a couple of them and post them here...at close of business...
layorh12
Too many midgets, who is going to pick up Peter Crouch at set pieces ! We need some power in the side for christ sake.
Blueheart9
Why taison? Benat is the one we really need. And another striker..
josevis
@Blueheart...no need to worry, I am sure the club has a plan...i am sure we are in the last phase of midget signings already...Taison if signed will cover moses..and when moses comes back...we'll have enough depth to play both league and Europa (Taison is cup tied in europa) and i guess the signing also implies Walcott will be staying at arsenal pretty much....the club will address teh central midfield area, before the window closes, i am very sure of that...its just who that i dont know...just relax!
layorh12
if we have no plans of bringing in new face(s) in central midfield, we would have recalled Essien...who i am now sure no longer has a future with the club...*sad but logical....
layorh12
@layorh, they posted that we are interested in him a few days ago,the taison own is still there, other sites inferred we are in for isco too, makes a man think....by the way here is a way man utd deal with their players when they are too much, remember the cases of fraizer campbell? Miram diouf? Wellbeck back then? Macheda? Now angel henrique www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2013/01/07/3654175/henriquez-hoping-to-emulate-cleverley-success-at-wigan?source=breakingnews My take is that we should keep buying too and sell for profit after sucessful loan spells
Desmondadonis
Yann mvilla is available for cheap I must say, a player of his quality, qpr had a bid of 6.5m rejected for mvilla, what is to say we can't get him for 10m? Which will be a steal if u ask me given the lad's quality, but the downside is his disciplinary issues, he is ban from france's national team till 2014!!! And man city with the embarrassment of talents they have upfront are tabling another £45m for edison cavani!!!!!!!!!
Desmondadonis
He is banned* sorry about that, and some other clubs dare call us greedy for having mazacar, when city have 4 world class strikers in their team and are still looking to sign one more!!
Desmondadonis
@Desmond...the Benat gist is gathering pace now which i find very interesting...if 75% of these rumours are true, then the club is doing really well in this winter transfer window...yeah if we get Taison, Isco, Benat and Y'mivlla...'ll be in another heaven entirely..but its not realistic and its near imposibble...'ll take Benat,Ym'villa,Taison,Isco (can you dream about a pivot on Y'mvilla and Benat??)... in that order as things stand..I am honestly not worried about man city...their model is obviously self destructive while i am happy chelsea has moved on from that era..truth is when we were spending money the way mancity is doing now...we had plenty trophies to show for it...shame on man city really...With FFP kicking in, Mancity will probably be there for the 3-4 seasons max..until these set of players they ve got start to age...then i see gross decline setting in...with probably Liverpool or Spurs taking their place...those 2 clubs started from the scratch and are making sone good progress..chelsea on the other hand, with better all round management and more stability in term of the coash have structures in place already to rule the world for the next decade and a half without exagerrating...i love my club to bits...
layorh12
I do not see how the fact that he is banned is a downside.Just on the contrary,he will be fresh after every national break and the chances of him getting injured are slimmer.As for Taison he's got quality,but I believe that Isco for 15 will be a better buy.I honestly doubt that we will get both of them because that will be meaningless and I still believe that we are have enough competition for the positions between the pivot and the striker with Mazacar,Moses,Marin and Kevin de Bruyne after he returns.We need desperately a midfield enforcer,because our hobbits disappear when the match gets a little more physical.I hope that whoever we sign contributes to the team,but I do not see how Taison would do the trick as Hazard and Mata will get the not in 9 cases out of 10.
Simeon23
we need to play... .ba haz/marin mata/taison oscar/isco isco/moses dm(who is a good defender as well as passer) cole cahill iva cezar chech
shlok27
@Layorh.... M'villa-Benat Pivot will be wicked but am scared of M'villa. I heard he is worse than Ballotelli.
SameX
I just want Oscar, Romeu and Josh to shine and become stars in the world of football. Signing players like Taison, Isco, Benat, M'villa may affect their future. Oscar most especially has lost plenty of confidence and he looks to be struggling under Rafa. I pray Rafa finds his best position and help him become world class.
SameX
@Samex...yeah its true...gang star kinda guy...perfect temprament for the DM...looool..*just kidding though..but i do think evryone has a chance to change...the french national team ban should get the poor guy thinking...and lemme add if we think he is beyond change...then Enter Capoue...another fantastic DM...lovely talent..all i want is a very mobile DM to compliment Mikel...who is very technically gifted but rather slow....but the board knows best i guess..lets see what happens....
layorh12
I honestly do not think we'll get a DM to be honest..more chance we'll get a CM...the beord appears to think Romeu is that other faster option we need in the DM postion..i dont know if that thinking is right...plus we still Chalobah maturing fast...
layorh12
But Isco for 15m and Benat for 16m are huge Steals. Isco is a big game player and very talented. He will create perfect competiton for the #10 role with Mata as he is a natural #10.
SameX
*the board not the beord!!!^^..lol
layorh12
Taison,benat,isco=mata hazard,moses.it sound nice but we need to hear more on pivot rumour related stories.
blue5
If Benat, Isco and Taison come this January, we may have to let Lamps go(heard he has agreed a deal in principle with Los Angeles). No need to buy a DM as we have Romeu, Rami, Mikel, Chalobah. Mikel, Rami, Oscar, Benat should be enough till the end of the season, Josh-Romeu to join them next season. Luiz can cover for Mikel till he returns.
SameX
SameX...we've been on the same wavelength today...spot on..i dont think we'll get a DM this winter...but we'll sure get a CM....lets see what the board is up to....
layorh12
All this players that we are linked to are not goalscorers, I would like us to buy a wingforward, a wide player that frequently scores goals, Neymar comes to mind. If we actually buy Isco and Taison, that would probably mean there is zero chance of signing Neymar. At the moment only Ba seems to be the one that can score goals on a regular basis, Mata and Lampard have scored some goals in recent games, but the rest of the squad isn't (perheps Iva and Cahill are too, lol).
icebluelg
Taison is right footed, if Rafa can work the wonders he is working on Moses on Taison, he will become a wicked winger and the Metalist's Board will be angry they sold him for peanuts. Taison and Moses can rotate the RW position.
SameX
Taison is right footed, if Rafa can work the wonders he is working on Moses on Taison, he will become a wicked winger and the Metalist's Board will be angry they sold him for peanuts. Taison and Moses can rotate the RW position.
SameX
Marin, Hazard on the LW and Mata, Isco as #10 and Moses, Taison on the RW. Piazon can rotate with Ba and T9 upfront and cover for the players in the band of 3.
SameX
Isco and Taison are both very good players, one is obviously better than the other, but as far as I see it, Isco will push Oscar out (unless one of them starts playing in the pivot, which is not their natural position) and Taison will push Marin out. Agree with SameX and layorh12 that Oscar can be great in the pivot (hope it is not like Luiz in DM), but until he can prove that, we will be too packed in the 3 positions behind the striker and thin in quality options for the pivot.
icebluelg
@SameX Isco and Hazard have talent to play in first eleven in any team in the world, even barca (if they develop as expected of course), how can we play Hazard, Mata, Oscar and Isco at the same time. They are all naturall nu.10s, but some can play wide. But I share GabeU's philosophy that says, if there is Roman's money spent and the resaults are there, am comlpetely happy and more.
icebluelg
Sorry, I meant Isco and Oscar and NOT Hazard (already too many nu.10's)
icebluelg
@Iceblueig I have watched Oscar so much and I am sure he will be perfect for the pivot. He is hardworking, can mark, has good long range passing ability and vision. Unlike Mata, he likes drawing deep to recieve the ball and distribute it. He can score from long range like Scholes and he is just brilliant, he will have not problem with reading the game and providing solid defensive cover especially when paired alongside players like Rami, Romeu or Mikel.
SameX
I am liking your thinking layorh and samex....if we can get both benat and isco, I assure u, players like oscar and moses will hit the bench more often
Desmondadonis
True @Desmond am also worried about them. But Rafa will not play Hazard-Mata-Isco in the band of 3 as Isco is not a natural winger. He will rotate Mata and Isco in the #10 position, which means Moses place will be safe, he will only have to battle with Taison on the RW.
SameX
I think mourinho might pull this off if we aint careful, I say buy butland just in case www.dexysden.co.uk/?p=11870&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UkFootballFinderMemberArticles+%28Dexy%27s+Den+-++The+UK%27s+%231+Football+Blog%29
Desmondadonis
Btw, Romeu is not available. We will only have Oscar, Benat, Rami and Mikel for the Pivot if Lamps go, so Oscar should still see alot of game time especially when you consider the fact that we are still in the CC, FaCup, Europa league plus EPL games. We are a top team, we need several players. Besides, Oscar can learn alot from a seasoned and experienced Deeplying playmaker like Benat.
SameX
I second Desmond in liking the thinking of layorh and samex.
icebluelg
Checkout barca,bayern,madrid,citeh, and man utd squad, oozes of class one way or the other, I see that our transfer flurries is unsettling one of my favourite youngsters www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/belgian-starlet-will-consider-permanent-werder-bremen-move-over-chelsea-return-22199/
Desmondadonis
@Desmondadonis, cfc will have the final say on the future of KdB.
icebluelg
@Desmond By next season we will recall KDB to take Marin's place as Hazard's backup on the LW cos we may sell Marin or loan him out due to his injury problem. So there is no need to be worried about KDB.
SameX
^^..we'll simply bring back kdb next season and loan Marin to Leverkusen....m sure they'll gladly take it...win-win...kdb has sure got a future here...
layorh12
Breaking news on twitter is that pep confirmed that he'll get back to coaching next season, so it got me thinking, that if we get perhaps isco and benat, maybe, just maybe he is pulling the strings behind the scene? Or what do you guys think?
Desmondadonis
@Desmond...i already said it on another thread...i think we'll looking at getting Pep or maybe they a pre-contract already...i could be wrong...but these scenarios appear to have pep's footprint all over them...could be a coincidence though...but its looking likely..clearly Roman has got an incurable crush on Pep..hope the intended marriage works!!!....lool
layorh12
Sorry..a bit of digression guys...latest rumour has it that Man city are trying hard to hijack the taison deal...as a result asking price has gone up to 13m with a 24 hour ultimatum for chelsea to pay up....why should we be bothered really?....we'll wait and see....
layorh12
hazard mata moses = attacking midfielders oscar isco = attacking or possible pivot players next to luiz
Bain^DoggZ
@layorh12 I don't think they will succed, bcs Taison wants to go to cfc.
icebluelg
 

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