Isco - A Done deal?

Was going to post this rumour earlier , but decided to err on the side of caution as it didnt seem firm enough . I hope this is true, as he is a player that is much sought afterand it seems like a good reasonable price

I think spain is the next world power of football after brazil, the players they keep producing keeps other teams wary and clubs excited, in a team where mata with all his magic aint starting, same with cazorla atimes, munian is no where near, so is benat, now this new phenomenon called isco, isco, benat and munian are the next best thing coming out of spain and to be linked to chelsea is an honour and show they recognize both our football prowess over the decade and our fat wallet, my opinion is we should get who we know we need and play them, if we get isco,we can loan him back to malaga for 2 years, we'll gain from the deal on the long run and if we don't need him, we can resell for profit, but 20m euros right now is a steal for a player of his talent, he'll surely worth 30m pounds soon!! There is also this feeling that they might mistaken this deal for the benat's deal as 20m euros is being quoted for the duo, the reason I am thinking we can pull it off is that we have a spanish coach who might be the decisive factor

A very creative player, but I would be surprised if he was available a) at the reported price, and b) without major competition from other clubs. I smell the odour of story placement to generate interest, maybe from Isco's agent, or Malaga. If we have secured his signing my opinion of Emenalo will improve, admittedly from a very low base.

we need a midfield general

Ture talk we don't really need him,maybe they want to keep buying midfielders because they excel most at chelsea,we don't really need him but come to think of it barcelona has most of the best players in the world both at academy level and first team level but they are still linked with the likes of neymar.... Its true we have enough players stocked at the CAM position with kdb and piazon.....I just hope and pray the board does what is right for the club,I would still love to see a benat but isco is most welcome too

Heard city has launched a 45m pounds bid for cavani and tottenham is closing in on damiao...,well if that is true and their bids are successful then I am scared,man utd will have v.persie,rooney,chicharito and welbeck,city will have aguero,tevez,dzeko and cavani,spurs will have defoe,adebayor and damiao.......we need a falcao then if we must compete....don't be scared english teams that are sensible won't suffer ffp due to the 55% increase tv deal that the epl has with skysports,so more money coming in,since money is shared equally among the teams that results in a 55% increase in our tv income alone....*smiles*

I'll say this as an opinion, if chelsea is successful in signing isco or benat, then I am very certain a manager in pep's mould is pulling the strings behind the scene

How will Isco fit in out current team, what will happen to Oscar? >>>>Torres used to make those runs when he joined us but now he knows WE ARE NOT DIRECT so he stopped making those runs. When I watched Ba in the first 30 mins it reminded me of Torres when he joined us i.e. when Torres used to make the runs nobody passed the ball to him first time (or he FELL OVER) as we are/were not direct. >>>>You watch ManU how they score goals because they are *DIRECT*! again *DIRECT!* (i.e. their build up play/attack is not slow like ours) they put FIRST TIME CROSSES, they SWITCH PLAY from left to right or right to left QUICKLY, they have players (Carrick, Scholes & Giggs) who have DEFENSE SPLITTING passes in their locker (Watch Giggs pass for ManU's 2nd Goal & you will know what I am on about). >>> IMO we will *WIN* more games if our play is DIRECT i.e. we don't dwell on the ball (if we do than teams will play like QPR and we will draw or loose most of those games). >>>Ba would have scored more goals, he made some wonderful runs (I know that because he is not s***** Torres who can't hold the ball up, Ba's 2nd goal where he held off the defender who got injured whereas Torres would have been on the floor or the defender would have nicked the ball) if we were more direct.

Sounds like crap news. What's the use of Isco? We have Mata, Hazard, and Oscar already. Oscar can't see a game. Where will Isco fit? Waste of Chelsea money. Deploy the resources elsewhere.

@the super eagles team doctors actually claims Mikel is super-fit...strange stuff!!!

Do we really need isco?? No we dont..we are stocked in that department,lets address our urgent need which is a cdm and another striker

@habbo...you are clearly a child still busy with taking milk from your mum's tit...'ll choose to ignore your comment...telling me to shut up?...nothing can be more disgraceful really...but'll let it pass....wont go down the path of cheap jibes with you...certain folks on here do not have the minimal intelligence level required to relate and discuss with other folks on the forum..even when in disgreement...the new year is the time to grow up...learn kid!

@layo, Mikel came off with a knock against Norwich, for a player departing for a tournament in less than a fortnight it is necessary he was given a rest to recuperate before going away to represent his country.

@Raybell @Latunvic..you guys just allayed ma worries..great tots really

mikel is one of the luckiest players in the world

honestly, I don't see the need for Isco in our team. With the wealth of attacking midffielders at our disposal and also currently on loan everywhere, we should be looking at reinforcements purely were we need it ( pivot and and CF) and not just chase every new kid on the block.

@layorh12 ok , thanks am sorry2

omg, better try El Shaarawy for 20m or even more, its unlikely but try it...

mmm thought the obi mikel thing was a bit strange. you know all the regulations stating if you are not fit for your club then you don't join your country's training etc. there certainly could be alot more to this than we are being told. and sturridge? where was he for the last two months? injures we were told. somehow i don't think so. could be that the jack the lad spat out his dummy about not being in the team before torres. he joins looserpool and suddenly he's fit and raring to go. bit strange if you ask me. again i feel whatever might have happened behind the scene was not made public. just a thought.

@trueblue44...yeah its a possibility...but as other folks have also said..it could be that Mikel needed to rest...like a said earlier..there will be a lot more clarity after afcon...'m crossing my fingers!..

GBAM @Desmond.he's still the best we got

LOL, rafa just keeps DOING THE RIGHT THING!(well mostly!) 1st he starts playing marin, 2nd he buys BA, 3rd he drops mikel :) and don't get it twisted guys mikel's been DROOOOPPPEEEDDDD!!!! i mean One start + luiz at DM since rafa took over doesn't exactly scream key player! only down side is oscar playing less :( , but then again it's given us the opportunity to see just how good mosses is, so it's all round good decisions from rafa me thinks! i couldn't do better it's like his reading me mind this guy! it's so annoying! :) (especially the mikel part! cant stop smilling when i see the team sheets these days)

Mikel didn't play at first due to the ban, and he was dropped in the CWC which we lost pathetically, the coach realised his errors and brought him back for norwich where he got injured, and only started trainning with the first team 2 days ago, so that doesn't mean mikel have been dropped :-)

mobi.supersport.com/football/africa-cup-of-nations/news/130106/Mikel_leads_Eagles_flight_to_Afcon

do not need isco but still think we should get him for £15m! which is his current buy out clause.

you guys need to check this guy out his name is Jordy Clasie he's 21 plays for feryernood for a young boy he's one hell of defensive midfielder, he's very agressive when he tackles, he can also send all those long range passes we've craving for. here is a clip of him on youtube- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhX_OfBheQ0

I am sorry guys. Isco is a good player but we dont need his or his type of player..we have excess there , Apart from Mazacar we also have marin and Moses and then there is KDB...this smells like another signing driven by our board with doubtful import to any long term plan. Any astute observer knows where the big needs are and that is what you address in January windows if you are wise. Our needs are another striker, a back up good no 2 goal keeper and a DM. When we have addressed all these then luxury buys can be considered..any way we say what we will but those guys we will do what they like regardless.

Oh and its Hazards birthday.

Now hazard is 22 years old!!!! Oscar 21, moses 22, mata 24,marin 23, piazon 18, future looks bright really

@Desmond..Azpi 23, Ramires 25, Luiz 25, Cahill 26, Coutuois 20, Josh 20, KDB 21, Mikel 25, Bert 23, Lukaku 19, Wallace 18....hmmmm...we already have a team for the future and are near sorted for the next decade...Asides arsenal...no other team in the ELP can compare....makes me kinda appreciate Roman and Emenalo...they have not done badly to be honest...and if i am to add the fact that we'll still spend cash on at least 1-2 world class player every single season..the future is mouth watering...this list of players gives some interesting perspective...!!!...chelsea!!!

Rafa still has to work on players best position...

Recent events appears to suggest we will be concluding the transition (largely) at the end of this season...which i think is actually some good news and an important achievement..pretty fast as well...to compare, I took a peep at the two milan clubs who are also in transition...and i think we are doing well....a lot of thanks to 19/05/2012...

@layorh yea, the future looks ever bright, if you add 17 year old islam feruz to that list, reuben loftus cheek, alex kiwomya, lewis baker and swift into the mix, chelsea will surely make profit too from any of this player's sale, (i.e) if they don't make the first team cut! If we buy isco and he gets to be better than mata or oscar (wishful thinking), won't it be good if we have him in our books? when we can have him for a steal now for 15m pounds than going for him for (35m) in two years, the ones that their development is growing in a snail's pace can be sold off! Besides this transfer window is the only window where we can buy lavishly, starting from next summer FFP will kick in(I guess), and we'll start complying with it first with the sale of torres!! Another point is that when mata is not on form like he is for over a couple of weeks now, its not possible isco or any other playmaker would also be out of form, the only person that might lose out if this deal work is KDB who I admire a lot, but surely we can't sell him for the 9m pounds we bought him giving his progress now can we? Atleast he is worth about 15-20m pounds now, that is making profit IMO, the same goes for isco if we buy him for 15m now and perhaps loan him back for 6 months to malaga, we can assess him through preseason, and decide to loan him back or keep him if he makes a difference, bottom line is that he'll be worth over 25m in a year or two, good business if u ask me, piazon was bought for about 7.5m euros, now he is worth 15m euros and can still go up if he completes his development, we are not buying to play them alone, we can also buy to make profit

Can anyone decribe Taison?

This Habbo is talking nonsense. IS Mikel a striker? stupid talks. He is not paid to score goals? if you talk something like this, i rate you very, very low

MrDax, where did you get that?

Maybe getting him will prove wonderful

Guys i always knew we were after Taison...and that was confirmed in the most recent interview Taison gave where he said he spoke to the ownner, there was some aura of certainty about that interview...His stats were posted here on the forum...and i was not impressed so i decided to do a bit of personal digging....Taison is also an midget (built is close of Moses/ more like Hazard) and plays across the attacking midfield similar to MACAHARD...He has not scored a lot of goals but he has scored some unbelievable goals...strikes the ball well with some really good finishing...my major worry that i observed is that his left leg is very weak, he does not use to do anything..if the ball falls to it..he does a turn to revert to the other leg most of the time which could make him predictable ...(very similar to FT9 in that regard)...I dont know how much of a limitation that will be but i dint like the look of it...I know players have a weaker leg but the very good players can use the weaker to a decent extent....Hazard, Oscar, Moses--uses both legs decently well...Mata's right is weak but defo not as weak as Taison's left from what i have seen...he has been bought to cover the right position obviously...if we sign Isco..what makes sense if for Oscar to drop into the double pivot which is not bad but will require some time...we'll wait and see....

Cant stop liking BA....most recent quote..''Each time I've arrived at a club, it's always been as back-up striker. And each time, through hard work, I've imposed myself."...oozing both humility and the strength to compete...FT9 needs to step up a couple of notches...or has reasons to be genuinely worried...m looking on with a lot of interest...

@layorh, his stats are just too poor, though I haven't seen him play, I wish u'll post a link here so I'll know more about him, aint it strange that sky sports have posted that we have agreed a fee for 3 players under 4 days? Benat,taison and isco, I am so confused

Too many midgets, who is going to pick up Peter Crouch at set pieces ! We need some power in the side for christ sake.

@Blueheart...no need to worry, I am sure the club has a plan...i am sure we are in the last phase of midget signings already...Taison if signed will cover moses..and when moses comes back...we'll have enough depth to play both league and Europa (Taison is cup tied in europa) and i guess the signing also implies Walcott will be staying at arsenal pretty much....the club will address teh central midfield area, before the window closes, i am very sure of that...its just who that i dont know...just relax!

@layorh, they posted that we are interested in him a few days ago,the taison own is still there, other sites inferred we are in for isco too, makes a man think....by the way here is a way man utd deal with their players when they are too much, remember the cases of fraizer campbell? Miram diouf? Wellbeck back then? Macheda? Now angel henrique www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2013/01/07/3654175/henriquez-hoping-to-emulate-cleverley-success-at-wigan?source=breakingnews My take is that we should keep buying too and sell for profit after sucessful loan spells

He is banned* sorry about that, and some other clubs dare call us greedy for having mazacar, when city have 4 world class strikers in their team and are still looking to sign one more!!

I do not see how the fact that he is banned is a downside.Just on the contrary,he will be fresh after every national break and the chances of him getting injured are slimmer.As for Taison he's got quality,but I believe that Isco for 15 will be a better buy.I honestly doubt that we will get both of them because that will be meaningless and I still believe that we are have enough competition for the positions between the pivot and the striker with Mazacar,Moses,Marin and Kevin de Bruyne after he returns.We need desperately a midfield enforcer,because our hobbits disappear when the match gets a little more physical.I hope that whoever we sign contributes to the team,but I do not see how Taison would do the trick as Hazard and Mata will get the not in 9 cases out of 10.

@Layorh.... M'villa-Benat Pivot will be wicked but am scared of M'villa. I heard he is worse than Ballotelli.

@Samex...yeah its true...gang star kinda guy...perfect temprament for the DM...looool..*just kidding though..but i do think evryone has a chance to change...the french national team ban should get the poor guy thinking...and lemme add if we think he is beyond change...then Enter Capoue...another fantastic DM...lovely talent..all i want is a very mobile DM to compliment Mikel...who is very technically gifted but rather slow....but the board knows best i guess..lets see what happens....

But Isco for 15m and Benat for 16m are huge Steals. Isco is a big game player and very talented. He will create perfect competiton for the #10 role with Mata as he is a natural #10.

Taison,benat,isco=mata hazard,moses.it sound nice but we need to hear more on pivot rumour related stories.

SameX...we've been on the same wavelength today...spot on..i dont think we'll get a DM this winter...but we'll sure get a CM....lets see what the board is up to....

Taison is right footed, if Rafa can work the wonders he is working on Moses on Taison, he will become a wicked winger and the Metalist's Board will be angry they sold him for peanuts. Taison and Moses can rotate the RW position.

Marin, Hazard on the LW and Mata, Isco as #10 and Moses, Taison on the RW. Piazon can rotate with Ba and T9 upfront and cover for the players in the band of 3.

@SameX Isco and Hazard have talent to play in first eleven in any team in the world, even barca (if they develop as expected of course), how can we play Hazard, Mata, Oscar and Isco at the same time. They are all naturall nu.10s, but some can play wide. But I share GabeU's philosophy that says, if there is Roman's money spent and the resaults are there, am comlpetely happy and more.

@Iceblueig I have watched Oscar so much and I am sure he will be perfect for the pivot. He is hardworking, can mark, has good long range passing ability and vision. Unlike Mata, he likes drawing deep to recieve the ball and distribute it. He can score from long range like Scholes and he is just brilliant, he will have not problem with reading the game and providing solid defensive cover especially when paired alongside players like Rami, Romeu or Mikel.

True @Desmond am also worried about them. But Rafa will not play Hazard-Mata-Isco in the band of 3 as Isco is not a natural winger. He will rotate Mata and Isco in the #10 position, which means Moses place will be safe, he will only have to battle with Taison on the RW.

Btw, Romeu is not available. We will only have Oscar, Benat, Rami and Mikel for the Pivot if Lamps go, so Oscar should still see alot of game time especially when you consider the fact that we are still in the CC, FaCup, Europa league plus EPL games. We are a top team, we need several players. Besides, Oscar can learn alot from a seasoned and experienced Deeplying playmaker like Benat.

Checkout barca,bayern,madrid,citeh, and man utd squad, oozes of class one way or the other, I see that our transfer flurries is unsettling one of my favourite youngsters www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/belgian-starlet-will-consider-permanent-werder-bremen-move-over-chelsea-return-22199/

@Desmond By next season we will recall KDB to take Marin's place as Hazard's backup on the LW cos we may sell Marin or loan him out due to his injury problem. So there is no need to be worried about KDB.

Breaking news on twitter is that pep confirmed that he'll get back to coaching next season, so it got me thinking, that if we get perhaps isco and benat, maybe, just maybe he is pulling the strings behind the scene? Or what do you guys think?

Sorry..a bit of digression guys...latest rumour has it that Man city are trying hard to hijack the taison deal...as a result asking price has gone up to 13m with a 24 hour ultimatum for chelsea to pay up....why should we be bothered really?....we'll wait and see....

@layorh12 I don't think they will succed, bcs Taison wants to go to cfc.