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Cech`s Not Given Up Hope!

The list of those who know their football and their view son the future of Frank Lampard grows by the day.

Everybody seems to be in unison with regards to Chelsea being prepared to Chelsea not offering Frank a new contract come the end of this season.

There`s an air of disbelief that somebody with so much to offer is being allowed to just walk away from Stamford Bridge.

However, Petr Cech, who returned form injury to take up his customary place between the sticks at the Britannia Stadium, on Saturday, hasn`t given up hope of Lampard staying, remarking to the media,

There is still six months to go until the end of the season and we will see then whether he stays or not."

"If he keeps playing like that then obviously he will keep asking about an extension."

"He`s been here a long time and seen bad and good times. That shows the loyalty of the player."

"The team changed, his age changed, but he is still important for the team."

"He might not play every game but when he does play he shows his quality and his experience. This is something that is great to see."


Can someone grab the board by the balls and point out that Lampard does still have something to give our fine club!




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The Journalist

Writer: Merlin Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday January 14 2013

Time: 4:43PM

Your Comments

Honestly this has become a joke. I can't understand why we won't keep Lampard on. It is still very clear that he is capable of playing for chelsea at the highest level. This guy has given ALL his talent and heart to this club. I've read how some of you fans go on about how we should move forward. You guys are blind and ignorant! Look at united and what Fergie, Giigs and scholes still has to offer and look what happened to arsenal when they got rid of all their ledgends....we NEED Lampard here. Nobody said anything about playing him every single game, but for as long as he can play he should be at the club where he helped create success. I rest my case.
Slippy G-19
Sign him up!
jib9336
Treatment of Super Frank is ridiculous to say the least! I don't know what the thought process of the board not to keep frank, but if they'd offer him a one year rolling contract with a third of his pay I'm sure he'd seriously consider it. But, if that's the way they want to treat their history making scoring midfielder I'm sure he'd love the sunny LA and that 6.5m/yr deal.
Tiraspol
lovely christine doesn't want to leave britain.
arbor9
Hope is a good thing, and we should never give it up
Gaban
If the players got what they wanted, we'd still have Mourinho as manager, or at the very least Carlo, or RDM. You get the idea, I'm sure. I'm not optimistic about Frank. I certainly think he'll go no matter what reaction the players or the fans have.
RadioactiveD
When Roman Abramovich bought Chelsea Football Club, he overnight became a worldwide name as the club became a major player accross the globe. His credibility soared again in Russia when they were nominated to host the World Cup. His time at Chelsea has been dogged by poor decisions, ridiculous sackings and the regular disposal of players, where he often took a massive financial loss. Winning trophies yes, but more failures than successes have been the regular pattern. If he can`t thrash out some sort of deal to ensure that Frank Lampard extends his contract, his recognition around the world as a credible owner and individual will be viewed simply as a wealthy man but absolutely no sense whatsoever. Listen to the world Roman, not the idiots around you.
Blueheart9
@radio, if so then, all of us should support the man to end his career with us,with a bang. Im still hoping though, keep believing
Gaban
This lamps and legend issue will destroy chelsea.every writer is lamps as topic,he has overshadowed every player who do more than him ie hazard's goal,ramirez workrate and even scaring potential managers.when will the funs stop this ***** as its making the club to be dreaded by good players.4 christ sake lamps is finished,all he knows is to use the fans clapping as he is the owner of cfc.if i were benitez ill put him vs oscar to see who contributes more to the team.
mzee69
Gaban: we should be supporting him regardless! No player is above criticism, but the way people here attack Lampard is absurd. See, for instance, mzee69's comments. Lampard certainly still contributes, and to say that he's "finished" is to blatantly ignore and/or devalue his contributions. It's all or nothing with people like mzee, who suggest that Lampard must go because his presence stifles the progress of players like Oscar. What nonsense. There are top clubs all over the world that use their older players as models for the younger ones. Lamps is a model professional and a great role model. No is saying he has to start every match, but I'd like to at least have the option of giving him a start. I think at his age Lamps has come to accept that his role in the club is changing. All season long he's handled himself with dignity--and yet he's still attacked? Pathetic.
RadioactiveD
And mzee's statement that the Lamps issue will "destroy" the club? Good god, have a little common sense and try, just once, to avoid hyperbole. It doesn't suit you.
RadioactiveD
yes no manager will take cfc job with the sentimental fans and deadwood we have.mou and pep will never tolarate funs and player dictating a club.ive never heard a legend begging 4 contract except cfc.just a disgust for a players subotaging managers and claimed to be legends.
mzee69
we will regret letting him go the sameway we regretted letting ballack go. we will become like arsenal next season unless a certain special one comes back...
Humza_96
Sentimental fans? Are you kidding me? What fans aren't sentimental, first of all? Secondly, just because you don't rate Lampard doesn't mean that everyone should agree with you. You can be sentimental about days past and simultaneously evaluate a player's current level of performance. Well, I can. Who knows what you're capable of.
RadioactiveD
All I have to say about it is : I do not think there is one team in the Premier League that wouldn't like to see Frank in their team. Need I say more?
SFC Forever
I think lamps is willing to take a huge paycut to see out his career at chelsea, what made me think so is the quotes I saw today about christine bleakley* that she is a homebird and don't want to go to LA, it gives credence to the claim that lamps would take a pay cut to stay in london, but the truth is he won't get the contract, if we were gonna offer him a contract, we would have done that by now, sadly RA doesn't want him here anymore, all we can hope for is that he should atleast signout of the bridge by topping bobby tambling network
Desmondadonis
Record* if he leaves he'll should leave with his head held high
Desmondadonis
The lamps media darling has stopped saying,cfc dont loose if lamps play.and is a penalty worth the hazard goal to brag lamps as motm.benitez even ignored praising one player running everywere exposing the back 4.can not wait 4 modric to come and will be back to the bench.
mzee69
@mzee...at all times..its always good to be objective even in criticism, I think you have taken this rant about Lampard too far...your opinion could be that Lampard is no longer needed which is fine (since its your opinion)...but then a none football follower reading your posts will think you are talking about a really poor player, egoisitic, proud and one who thrives amidst unrest....Lampard is none of these and deserves a bit more respect to say the least....from any fan who has followed the club from tha last decade...I have also criticized Lamps in certain games...but your posts are skewed and do not show a sense of fair judgement...Infact more recent displays from Lampard clearly shows he can bring somthing to the table in footballing terms...I know there's probably a lot more behind the scene why the club might not wanta offer him a new contract (the scenario is not normal, not even Didi was treated this way)... such as FFP, The rumoured AVB saga e.t.c but I think objectively the facts for Lampard being given at least a year rolling contract far outweighs those against it....Roman is very very stubborn...I do hope he changes his mind this time...as I think he is the one directly behind this...the other 3 amigos (like GabeU'd say)...do not really appear to have a say in this matter....still hoping for some sorta miracle...it looks remote though...
layorh12
No one said his penalty was better than Hazard's goal. In fact, that particular goal has been repeatedly praised. We need more of that from Hazard. On the upside, thanks for reminding me of the futility of trying to communicate to someone who can't even present a remotely coherent argument. Funny how it's those people who are always the most inflexible in their opinions. Time-waster this is.
RadioactiveD
I have always advocated for Lampard to stay, all be it on a lower wage and for him to continue to be used is asparingly manor as he has been this season. Lampards play in the pivot has evolved and got better as the season wore on, in fact he would be right up there as being potential MOTM for me against stoke, he passing display from deep was for te most prt very good and on another day would have bagged three. Stoke is one example yes, but you would be blind to say he has not improved in that role. Deadwood? No I dont think so. Hes older, and more injury prone than before, butis still a smart footballer, and offers alot of leadership and experiance to our now younger dynamic team. As above, 1 year rolling contracts suit all parties involved in my eyes.
BlueKiwi
Desmond hits the nail on the head,...no matter what we the fans think or hope Roman has decreed it..Lamps will have to walk come summer the only question left he where he will go..i hope he goes to MLS or China or something..i dont want SAF to gloat at us be acquiring Frank and maybe even Ashley Cole and then using them to rub our nose in it down the line.
GabeU
hahaha...A total waste of time Radio. On a more interesting note,an article was released on Dailymail this morning that left majority of the Chelsea fan base angry and aggravated at the clubs handling of the whole Lampard situation. There was no mention of him moving to 194 goals to surpass Kerry Dixon on the official website in the wake of his goal against Stoke City. And an interview in which Petr Cech praised Lamps was edited to cut out mention of the midfielder’s 'loyalty', 'importance', and being ‘as good as ever’. Not until the official Chelsea Twitter and Facebook accounts were bombarded with angry comments and criticism,was an article released on the official site acknowledging Lampards achievements. So why then did it take so long? Why are ChelseaFC PR handling of media activities so poor? Who exactly is head of PR? One thing is for sure,the gap between fans and club is growing bigger by every stupid decision made by the club.
nelyvanile
There seems to be a lot going on within the club and this actually looks deeper than we all think.
nelyvanile
Its likely we would keep talkin about this lampard contract situa tion on daily basis till he leaves in the summer definitely roman's mind is made up and it would only take divine intervention for him to reverse it because he aint crackin despite media and fans criticism..buck,gourlay and emanalo are powerless in this issue,its all up to roman
Ken4CFC
@nelyvanile. It is the classic case of russian iron curtains. On a serious note, frank lampard is more important tothe club than terry or cole. He represents whatever thats good about our recent history. Terry and cole have dragged the club through s.hit. in these many years. Stoke, everton are difficult fixtures and experience and leadership is required to play these clubs. We would have been just as timid as arsenal had lampard not played these matches. Second issue is leadership. Due to constant changes in managers, we have not been able to develop leadership at the club. The board and roman trying to break the so called player power need to have a good look at themselves for the reasons the player power developed. Avb has rightly said that there is no succession plan at chelsea. Has the board thought on how they will tackle physical matches like stoke, man city, without players like lampard. has the club identified leadership in the team that will succeed terry and lampard. If they have than the club should do that by declaring our new team captain and give the fans a hope that a succession plan is in place. Until then the turmoil will continue.
Blue India
secondly all this talk of roman has the money and he will do whatever he deems fit is nonsense. This is chelsea football club and not roman football club. If tomorrow roman leaves the club, we wont, we cant. Fans are more important to the club. In fact fans are the club. If the fans are panicky it is because of incompetence of the board to do the right thing. No plans towards succession of players from the academy. No plans on squad development. No plans on managerial instability. We have one of the worst board in club football.
Blue India
mzee you are as blind as anything, really overshadowed Hazard, Oscar, this guy is 2nd highest goalscorer, he actually scores in those important matches, show some respect, Hazard and Oscar haven't been here for one season and their performance to be honest haven't been consistent especially Hazard who played almost all the games for Chelsea, why do you think Manu keep 40 years old Giggs and Scholes, look at their position now, look at Arsenal keep selling their legend and best player, look at their position now, use logic and brain before you post something please, geez
chelsea44
blue india i thought we have the worst board in club football, even Forest Green FC have a better board than us
chelsea44
and can anybody tell me how the heck Torres get 20% vote on MOTM, the guy done nothing tbh
chelsea44
It looks like Lampard burned the bridge with the AVB fight last year and Roman has made his decision. My concern is the overall player development strategy for this club...which I am convinced that ther is none...I am not convinced that lampard has told the club that he would take a 1 year deal with a substantial wage cut...does anyone know if he has done this? I wold not sign Lampard for two years at his current wage... So Lampard is letting the English press negotiate for him...if Lampard is re-signed you would have Lampard, Ramiers, McEchran, Mikel, Romeu....and Modric/Felliani????? how many Pivot players do you need? Honestly, If Lampard is signed does he warrant significant playing time? This team is requires a passer/playmaker like McEachran/Modric. what about Oscar? There are way too many players for two positions...so how does anyone justify Lampard signing??? Some players gotta go...so unless Lampard says he will take a significant pay cut and sign for one year with the understanding that he is to mentor the younger players and to not expect much playing time then I would sign him. But I expect that he will not do that and he will allow the English press wage the public relations war for him and negotiate for him. Thus the reason for Chelsea's inactivity and negotiating position.
lamarochs
truth is we have no board...The key guys that I know (Gourlay, Buck and Emenalo) have next to zero power in reality both in footballing and non-footballing matters. All they appear to do is suck up to Roman and lick his ass to ensure their fat salaries are safe...afterall, we all wanta have sussessful careers...they are not in those positions because they love chelsea, they are there to have a successful career with huge rewards both in financial and non financial terms. So their best bet is not to rile the owner which i understand..as aresult, when the owner says Lampard leaves...they just stick to the order like slaves and cant have a decent discussion with the owner because they all know Roman can do a Ray Wilkins...I am for Mou coming back to our club but this is the key reason I dont think It will ever happen...Mourinho will speak...and he is definitely not into ass licking...whether Lampard stays or leaves will be down to only one man... and that is Roman....not the so called ''board''...the board is a farce!!!
layorh12
FL is thinking that he can sway RA and the board into offering him a contract with all his "I am the HERO of CFC. RA and Board are the bad guys" But it will only strengthen the resolve of the board and RA to get RID of him. I am seeing lot and lot of similarities between FL and JOSE situation at CFC in 2007. Both are refused the clubs request. FL blatantly back-stabbed the clubs desire to move towards the sustainable future with AVB debacle. With AVB doing well at spurs it will rub in the face off RA more and more. Noboady can deny that with the youthful team we has now AVB could have been our own SAF. We can all argue how its not JT FL AC fault that AVB is naive and not a good manager etc etc. But the simple truth is AVB is appointed solely by RA. NOBODY ELSE. We need to give praise where its due. If RA idea worked AVB will be on his second year in the EPL now with youthful team and at the same time experienced. From next year we could have gone to build an empire. Now bcz of the saking of AVB last season our inevitable new direction is delayed for another 2 years now. Its the same situation with Jose in 2007 when RA decided to tone down the controversy of Jose and move towards eye catching football to restore the image of chelsea infront of the world. What Jose did. He constantly made fool of the board and RA in the press and belittled the club at each and every given opportunity in the press. So RA sacked him ruthlessly with out any option. Now FL is doing the same HERO act through his media buddies and agent but it is going to back fire spectacularly on FL once he hangs up his boot. RA is not going to leave CFC ever. Only after the dead of RA FL and Jose has any chance of returning to SB if they act like this. FL is over playing his hand on this contract issue. Even if he is 2 or 3 goals short of 202 he has every chance to come back here on loan in future like henry and break that record but with his media war against the club do you guys honestly think RA will allow him to come back? I dont think so. Jose was saked bcz he started to act like he is bigger that CFC itself. Lampard is doing the same thing now with out he knowing it. I am not even for a second thinks that all this bitching from the press and FL camp is going to change anything from CFC at all. Its better for both parties to go on separate ways with out any ill feelings. JT's contract is not going to be renewed mostly just bcz of this same reason guys. Constant negativity towards CFC through out the world. We can all argue about JT and FL and how as fans we dont care about the media image of CFC. But its really really important for RA and CFC. No club can susrvive with out good media portrayal. Everybody knows that media is biased but nobody will deny that they are essential in making people believe lies as truths. truths as lies. The second biggest mass murder in the history of man kind is IRAQ WAR. But at the time of the war more than 90% people thought its right to go to the war with iraq. Did you guys know why? BCZ of media and its lies. BUSH and MURDOCH are both solely responsible for more than a 1M peoples dead yet still after all blown up the media is still able to cover up for them. WHY? BCZ Murdoch controls most of the media around the world. IF our FANS think that MEDIA is not important then they are living in the stone age. RM and BARCA is doing as much as BAD things in football like CFC but why they are always the darling of general public? MEDIA. GIGGS is ******** his brothers wife for more than 8 years. But 80% public dont even know about it. Yet each and every child(10 to 18yrs) now knows that CFC is employing a RACIST CAPTAIN. General public(people who are not with any opinion) is what decides the matter. Their opinion is what matters in any give issue. Whether its movie or WAR or particular individual. Its bcz of the media.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Who has watched lamps in great detail in the games he plays?? Does absolutely nothing defensively, does very little offensively but will always be in front of the opposition goalie when the crosses come in...talk about an opportunist
@Mq
and he just knows how to "say it right" doesn't he, the campaigner??....http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262421/Frank-Lampard-worried-Chelsea-standards-dropping.html
@Mq
Well said by Patrick Collins...Thoughtfully, he explained his actions to reporters: ‘Maybe I was a little bit emotional, but the fans have been with me all the time I’ve been here... if certain things are going on in your head, when you run out and the fans support you the way they do, it can’t help but make you a bit emotional. I just wanted to say “thanks” back.’ As I say, a misty-eyed masterpiece. Lampard knows how the game is played, and he played it brilliantly. Realising they were being beaten out of sight in the public relations battle, and anxious to appease their followers, Chelsea used the ‘usual channels’ to indicate that they had held ‘conversations’ with Lampard’s representatives and that it was quite possible he might stay at the club. But Lampard’s agent, Steve Kutner, announced that nothing had changed, that no new contract was on offer and that: ‘Frank has had to accept that and just wants to carry on playing football for Chelsea so as to finish the season as successfully as possible for the club that he loves’. Such a statement deserves the murmur of violins..................................http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2261491/Chelsea-right-pension-Frank-Lampard-Patrick-Collins.html#ixzz2I1OPzWp4 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
@Mq
This is the same reason RA is going all out for PEP. Is he the best manager in the world? Certainly NO. With only exp in barca and la liga he is not even top 5 manager of my liking. But he is 100% clean image guy. MESSI is doing almost as much as BAD things as RONALDO on and off the field yet its ronaldo who is the bad guy. ronaldo is even doing more charity work than messi but nobody knows about it. BARCA players DIVE more than any other team in the whole world but no commentator is mentioning it. Why bcz of their clean image. As a owner of CFC RA wants that type of image and universal price for his cfc then what is wrong with it? FANS should think about the two side of the coin. We are just jumping on the HERO LAMPARD bandwagon with out even a second thinking. WHY? ITs bcz media is constantly writing about FL and his loyalty and how professional he is. Each and every good match we are playing this season the sole reason behind is FL. Each and every bad match we are playing this season its bcz of RA and the board.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
But honestly i think FL deserves a one year contract in lower wages if he accepts his limited responsibility. But unlike no other older player in the world lampard wants to play almost all the matches. So i cant really go on either way in this matter. I cant take lampards side bcz CFC is fully with in their rights in refusing a 2 year 150K contract for a 35 year old who has more power on the dressing room with his buddies like JT AC than the manager. If CFC give a 2 year contract to a 35 year old then which 21 year old midfielder want to come here? When is the time for our midfielders in the age of 18 to 23 to gain the experience? After they reach 27 years old? A 21 year old midfielder is going to make more mistakes than a 35 year old lampard? Certainly. But with out learning from his mistakes how he is going to gain the experience of a 35 yr old lampard? On the other hand Lampard has played for chelsea 12 yrs now and 2nd highest scorer. Very good midfielder even in 35. Still has much more to offer on and off the pitch. His professionalism is a biggest asset for young players to look up to. With constant sacking of managers we need player like lampard to guard young players from losing their desire and identity. He can still offer technique and advice about any club and players on any given matter bcz of his vast experience in football.So honestly i cant choose any side on this matter. But i can understand both side of the arguments.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@blueandwhitearmy, I'll like to know two things mate, how and where did mourinho belittle chelsea fc and what are the bad things messi do off the pitch that is as much as ronaldo? The issue for those saying lampard don't do anything offensively or defensively is that u lot love flair too much to appreciate the other players who sweat for the team, rammy,mikel and lamps, lamps go to the opposition box because its in his instincts to as a CAM, box to box and perhaps a second striker, he have been like that for almost 20 years of football, why do u want him to change overnite, as I said if he agrees that he won't play all games and would be used from the bench most times and with a paycut, then I am okay if he still playing for us, but as an attacker, not as a pivot player and I believe he'll come good for us
Desmondadonis
Well if lamps can take the paulo ferreira role, it would be good for all parties, we can't only blame the board alone or roman, lamps too must show that he loves us and would do anything to please the fans even if he is not played regularly, that is the reason most fans love paulo ferreira, he is what a legend should be
Desmondadonis
@Desmondadonis Are you kidding me mate? This is what i am saying in my previous posts. MEDIA. MEDIA. They can swing any matter the way they want. Go and see the older articles at the time of Jose's end in 2007. His constant negativity towards RA and CFC board. Constantly telling the press that your club owner dont want you to win trophies the owner and the board want you to play good football and win things etc are not belittling the CFC then what? As a manager you must know not to say your board discussions in the press. Jose simply said Scheva is the signing of RA and CFC. BCZ of this only reason JM ridiculed Scheva in front of the whole world by playing him out of position(eventhough Scheva is also on the decline on that time bcz of niggling injuries and age etc). Jose said in the presses that CFC board and RA dont want to back him on the signings and they provided him 3rd rate eggs and expecting 1st class omelettes. This is not belittling then what is? Like i said Jm is sacked bcz of only one reason "JM started to act like he is bigger than CFC itself"
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@Desmondadonis Last year itself a racism allegation has came against messi also. Unlike JT a player directly said that messi has abused him in the matches constantly by calling him "negreto". Like Saurez but unlike in u.k spain has more S.A population and its known there negreto is a friendly term. But crucially what this black player said is "You can know when a player says the term negrato as friendly or in insult" He said messi called him repeatedly as negrato on numerous times throughout matches. I forgot the name of the player. But if you want i can research it and give the link to you. There is not even a single mur murs from the media on this matter. YET JT was hounded like a dog and mass murderer like osama for an allegation nobody heard and nobody other than a you tube clip and a work less policeman's complaint. Giggs was fu(king his wifes brother for more than 8 years yet everbody wanted to kill JT bcz of a baseless allegation on bridge affair. Remember its still un proven and shaky at best in allegation itself. But Giggs matter is far more serious bcz he blackmailed his brothers wife into sleeping with him first and he owned her after that by constantly fu(king her for more than 8 years. Yet there is not even a second day reporting on that matter.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@BlueAmdWhiteArmy..good thinking..really good...the problem with Lampard being offered a one year rolling contract with defined respensibilites is this....can anyone actually imagine Lampard keeping quiet if he does not start three straight matches and he is fit and on the bench....especially if the team is not winning?....if in such scenarios, he speaks and gets upset (similar to the AVB time) then that could affect the entire team and lead to untold deep in form of the team....honestly there are arguments for and against the Lampards contracts really...whatever happens, I hope the club comes out of it better.....
layorh12
i still think Lampard might still wanta play a lot of football just like Pirlo and because chelsea is probably focusing on young players who will desperately need playing time, then it might be better if at this point each party goes on their seperate ways....because if he stays on reduced wages, I think his playing time is gointa reduce a lot more starting from next season as our transition is almost complete..(70-75% done really in terms of on-field players)seeing Lampard in the Ferreira mode will be strange and I dont think he will simply keep quiet on the bench especially when the team is goin through a rough patch...its deep and complex really....i will just look on...
layorh12
@layorh12 What is worrying me more and more is Almost all CFC fans are crying out for tough decisions to be taken for the past 5 years. How our board is clueless and how they dont have any vision etc etc. But when the board starts to show some back bone and making tough decisions we are sliding on the other side and trashing the board and RA and how we are worst. I am not saying that the board is RIGHT in FL AC JT issue here. What i am saying is all the BIG clubs boards a had made these type tough of decisions. Some times its right sometimes its wrong. But they need to make these decisions one time or other. They cant ignore and delay making these decisions forever. I know Bertrand is not even the 60% the level of Cole in LB. But last season itself i asked Ryan to be given more and more 1st team opportunities. WHY? Is it bcz RYAN is better than Cole? NO. RYAN will never be better than Cole with out any first team playing time. If we gave Ryan the playing time last season and this season we could have decided now that he is a natural successor of cole by now. Yet we didnt gave him that now we are talking about how we need to buy another left back so its better to give Cole 2 yr contract. UNTIL WE as a whole didnt take that RISK and move on to the unknown we dont know one way or another. RYAN is 24 now? Just tell me which promising player in any big club who is as patient as him? He is showing enormous patience bcz he is with CFC from the age of 10. CFC is abusing his love in the wrong way. RYAN will leave if we sign another established LB NOW. SAME goes for JOSH and all our promising young players. If you keep on giving FL AC JT all the contract and playing time they want then WHEN our younger players are going to develop? I have said it many many times. I will be happy to write off 2 to 5 seasons with out even a carling cup if it means we implement 3 to 7 players from our youth and made them world beaters in this time. Giving FL AC another 2 year contract is not just financial matr. It includes reducing playing time of JOSH and RYAN further. With cole always playing at LB RYAN is now playing at LW just to stay FIT. Whole world knows that he is not a LW yet we are playing him there to satisfy him and make him feel he is somewhat involved. What i am saying is WHY dont we play him in mid table team matches in PL EL this season itself? We MAY loose 2 or 3 matches bcz of his mistakes but he will gain in valuable exp and mature as a player from next yr on wards.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
if lamps get one year contract do you think he will sit on the bech and try to motivate our young players....he wants to play footall and he will make sure tht he gets to play in first team..and do you guys want a talent like oscar kdb rotting on the bench while lamps is getting all the playing tme....i dont want that instead i would want oscar and kdb getting more chance and becomes a world class players and who knows they can turn out to be far beter than lamps...think abut our future first...lamps was great but now its time to move on...kdb oscar josh are the future for chelsea not lamps....
shlok27
@Blueand whitearmy...your thinking is that of a true fan not after glory hunting which is commendable...BUT...we both know chelsea has not been working this way and recent evidence does not suggest things will change soon...I dont think Roman will sacrifice results and youth development for trophies...there is a difference between development and winning and the balance between these two is tough to achieve....I am sure next season...Roman will demand for trophies...bcos by his standards the transition would have been completed...whoever is coach under such scenarios cannot be patient with youth andloosing couple of matches just for them to develop that is if he wants to keep his job...Playing for or managing chelsea at this point is a really tough one....
layorh12
Its better for a Legend to move away on a High...Lampard is just trying to do the same. End the season on a High and then move on...There is no point in discussing this further, the board has taken its decision, Lampard had accepted it. Why do we want Lampard to take a pay cut and sign a 1 yr rolling contract with chelsea, when he is offered a multi-yr, multi-million contract in MLS...In fact, chelsea is doing a favour by not restricting its legend to a low wage contract. It has allowed the freedom to choose his choice.
Blu_run
Each and every player can be replaced. If not next year, we will surely replace Lampard with equivalent player in 2 years. Chelsea will move on.
Blu_run
@layorh12 No mate. I think you are mistaken about RA and his intention to make youth a big part on CFC policy. That is the biggest reason behind the hiring of AVB. RA is the only one who hired AVB with all the advise the others gave him about other big name and experienced coaches. RA is not as naive as the papers wants us to believe. If my thought is right RA has decided to appoint AVB and go on to the youthful mode like our team is now. Almost 70% transition is complete. If RA decided to go for youth 2 years before FFP its not naive or ignorent like papers want us to believe.Its shrewd thinking from RA part. He fully knows he cant bent the FFP rules more than a point. Of course he could pump money once off from sponsorship's from his buddies companies but he cant give the money like before. Also AVB's sole task for the first 2 years when appointed is to secure the top 4 nothing else. NO trophies was demanded by RA and the board. RA sacked AVB bcz he didnt want to see the club finishing in the bottom half of the table and becoming an laughing stock. But RDM changed all that by winning the trophies along the way by going back to 2004 and all defense mode. RA and the board at CFC is still considering our CL and FA cup win last season 100% as a fluke. Although i dont agree with them you can see behind their thinking. Nobody can deny that CFC are so so LUCKY to win CL and FA cup last season. So RA is still fully behind renovating CFC with youthful culture and good long term manager. So i dont think anything is changed on that end. Only the name of the manager will be diff this time. For AVB there will be new young manager who will be given time to shape up the strategy and culture of the club from youth team to first team.Whether its PEP or KLOP or anybody i am sure that he will be given time unlike anyother manager in the past. Remember AVB is the only manager sacked personally by RA. Even JM is dispensed by kenyon only. JM won us more than anybody yet he still sacked like an employee nothing else. Yet a young 33 year old manager who was at CFC for 8 months was sacked personally by RA. What does it tells you? RA is not a fool or naive like the papers want us to believe in football matters. I may be wrong in this. But all the noises the RA and board making is looking towards building a entire club not just first team.This is also a bigger reason for the boards refusal to give FL AC the contracts they want. Board is clearing the deck for the new guy so that he wont face the same pblm AVB faced.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@layorh12 RA sacked AVB bcz he is not left with alternatives. After the sacking itself RA directly went to the dressing room and said "I didnt sacked AVB but the players sacked avb" This words are really really harsh. When you consider RA is rarely out spoken these words meant the player not betrayed AVB they betrayed CFC and RA. Only twist in the whole SAGA is RDM and our f.a cup and CL win. NOBODY expected it not RA not CFC board not CFC fans. Nobody expected CFC to win anything. Only reason behind the sacking of AVB is RA tried to save the season by securing at least top 4. That is the reason they didnt appointed benetiez at that time. That is the same reason they now appointed benetiz now to make way for NEW YOUNG CLUB building manager like a AVB or PEP or Klop etc. The managers name is not going to be that much important in this summer but he will certainly be given time unlike anybody in the past. RDM forced the hand of chelsea and RA hand by winning CL. RA swayed by the press and public opinion for the 1st time in the 9 years gone against his initial judgement and appointed RDM. Like i said RA and the board considers our last seasons CL and f.a cup wins as some fluke nothing else. We cant really blame them bcz even the most vocal CFC fans could not deny that our last season's heroics are once in a life time thing. Like miracle of istanbul for liverpool..
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@BluesAndwhiteArmy...I fully understand your thinking and its logical. the summary is you are of the opinion that the next coach will not be under pressure to deliver trophies in the next two years so long as we finish top 4...However I have my doubts but we'll wait and see...although if that is to happen...that will be the best thing that can ever happen to this club at this time....because it means..1. the coach will be around for at least 3 years or more which implies some good stability..2. our most promising youth will get a very good chance in the first team...3. our business model would have become self sustaining..4.we'd have cemented our place as a top top club globally....while I have serious doubts about this possibility (you cant blame me as my opinion is based on various past events).. I do hope it happens....but nice tots from you.
layorh12
@layorh12 I also hope the same thing. STABILITY is a must for chelsea for atleast next 3 years. CFC's Youth team and youngsters is the best assembled in the world. Hell individually they are even better than barca youths in most cases. BUT with out soul and identity about how they want to play or how they are going to be inserted to the first team everything is a mess about our youth team. CFC is the biggest buyer of young players for the past 3 years. No club has bought more young exciting players whether its first team or youth team we are buying lot of players.So i dont think its all just a coincidence. RA and the board may have a brilliant plan and trying to implement it.Anyway like you said we need to wait and see.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
All this crap about the players refusal to adapt to AVB is farcical. You can`t suddenly make players who have played the game a certain way all their careers, suddenly change the way they play, for slow players to become fast, for defenders to just attack. AVB got it wrong, he wanted to do it overnight and it wasn`t possible. By dropping 3 experienced players in a vital Champions League game away with no decent replacements, was his decision. The man was inexperienced and he sacked himself. Terry, Lampard and Cole all play with their hearts when representing our club, if our board in their wisdom employ 1 idiotic manager after another over a 9 year period, thank god that we had these players who stood up and took control and won trophy after trophy. Don`t blame the players, blame Abramovich who should employ himself next season as 1st team coach, let some other inexperienced board member choose all his players and then lets all see how he gets on. Over to you Roman . . . Put the playstation down and give it a go.
Blueheart9
Guys there's a difference between reality and optimism. If Roman and CFC board have a brilliant plan they are waiting to unleash,we would have seen signs by now. Its obviously going to be the same quick fix approach,everytime there's a problem. As for your ideology on Messi and Ronaldo,honestly mate that's laughable,99 out of 100 players will tell you how humble lionel is on and off the pitch in total contrast to Ronaldo. I seem to hear it all on VC's front page.
nelyvanile
Even if i would love to see SuperFrank break the Bobby Tambling record of 202 goals, i think we have to realise that his time is up at the Bridge. We have far too many talented players out on loan, that might play regularly at the Bridge by now. I also expect that come next year this same saga will restart with JT's contract. Maybe after this transitional season and after adding JOSH and CHALOBAH (and a few others as well) we can serioulsy compete again.
HaraldBlue
@nelyvanile Dont be one sided mate. You should see the both sides objectively. Hiring AVB? Signing almost all the players from the age group of 17 to 23? What are all these? Charity work from CFC? If the hiring of AVB worked the way CFC and RA wanted then AVB's infamous Project could have been in its final year.With the team we are having and with some additions we could have been force to be reckoned with AVB(2 season managerial exp in EPL CL) Players like MATA LUIZ with 2yrs with cech ivanavic terry to provide more exp etc. I am also annoyed with the clubs decision regarding Lampard but i am not naive to believe what the papers write and want me to believe.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
This talk about 'player power' is also laughable. Player power only exist when there's inconsistency in managerial head ultimately leading to lack of leadership,which the older/more experienced players at the Club tends to take the mantle. Who's fault is that? The players or the Owner/Board who look to take a quick fix approach everytime there is a problem. Its the same problem in Real Madrid right now. They've had about 11 managers in 9 years if I'm not mistaken,and that has ultimately lead to the player power in the dressing room for players like Cassilas,Ramos e.t.c who are the more experienced players in the dressing room,and has led to the feud developing in Madrid right now.
nelyvanile
@nelyvanile CFC has highest number of players loaned out (more than 25) who are all in the range of 16 to 21 year group. Still chelsea is not buying finished products anymore. We are not buying players in the range of 25 to 18 anymore. Even if we buy falcao its bcz of the necessity rather than policy(Bcz of the world beating FLOP of FT).So there is no need for the fans to jump on the new paper bandwagon to thrash the board and RA.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@nelyvanile AVB said many many times when he is at CFC about how RA want to move towards youths and buying players young and developing them as a group with occasional big purchases. "PROJECT" for 3 years is what AVB said more than 50 times when he was here.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
25 to 28 not 18.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
A bit of digression guys...Bamford just tweeted that Piazon is going on loan to Malaga....can anybody smell something getting interesting with the prior Isco rumour?...but then...Malaga for Piazon is a tall order if its true, I do hope his development does not stagnate...
layorh12
Trust me mate,this is not coming from Naivity,its coming from friends I had who use to work as Chelsea's PR. Chelsea always come up with a plan for every season,but along the way the plaj is dealt a certain amount of blow. The board/Owner panics and shows their lack of patience which ultimately leads to another step backwards. You talk about AVB's signing/sacking...same AVB has come out to say Chelsea don't have a plan/ Project put in place. Doesn't that ring a bell? If AVB signing was truly a plan,then the Club/ owner could have been patient enough to see it trough. Just to also point out,winning the Champions league gave us an added advantage in signing player like Hazard and Oscar,so its not like a plan was put in place to sign them.
nelyvanile
Piazon to Malaga- interesting, but its no good loaning him out if hes not going to play, thats pointless. i hope there is an arrangement whereby he plays a number of games. he could well be part of a deal for isco, i wouldnt be surprised. i read marin maybe going on loan too- if thats the case make it leverkusen and get schrulle back. Ba, Schrulle and torres (in that order).
Blue1989
@Layorh. Probably a sweetener for Isco...Sounds like a club with a plan? Go on loan and become a finished product,that's more like the Chelsea plan. Our transition from youth to first team is *****,due to our eye for other clubs project and players they developed. We have top young talents in the U-18 and U-21 squad,I visit Cobham often to watch the U-18 play,and it gladdens my heart we have such young talents. But deep down inside of me,I know we will probably loan them out and ultimately sell them off. Its the Chelsea way for the last 5 seasons. Signing top young players in europe ultimately reduces the chances of our youth team making a head way,especially seeing how must of the players they look up to,to make their way into the first team.
nelyvanile
hmm....omg, Piazon to malaga doe not look good...i just hope he gets some playing time...although they need money cos of their gross debt and wont be playing champions league next season courtesy of the fifa sactions...so i see a lot of their star players leaving which may give paizon some good first team opportunity....and Isco to chelsea is good news for me if its happens...Mata is already close to a burn out.
layorh12
@nelynanile...i think so too...although for me its still looks like an aggresive loan arrangement although i have tried to explain above^^^ the only rationale that could give some credence to the board's decision to loan such a talented young teenager to malaga....i just hope all these work out..
layorh12
@nelyvanile I havent said anywhere that chelsea is not making rash decisions and bad decisions. AVB sacking for example. If you ask me to give up the CL and F.A cup we won last season for becoming a empire like barca with your own players with occasional big purchases. AVB is saying CFC dont have a plan now bcz of his sacking(only reason behind his sacking is the fear of top 4) we are going to finish on the bottom half of the table that season. RDM was promoted not to win CL and F.A cup. He was promoted just to secure TOP 4. Nothing else.. Winning the CL has nothing to do with us signing young players. It may be true for HAZARD. Bcz of our offer of CL we may have signed hazard other than that Oscar is very unknown entity on the time. Most interested club on him is spurs(lot of big club speculation but not much concrete offers). CFC is signing most promising young talent through out europe more than any other club for the past 3 years. Whether we admit it or not its the truth. All we now need is a very good promising coach to mold them into a particular way of thinking and playing from youth to first team. In another 3 yrs we could boast like barca that we have our own way of playing and producing players like any great team. I am not saying that the club is doing everything right but that doesnt mean they are complete morons either.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
*they look up to,to make their way into the first team gets loaned and ultimately sold out*
nelyvanile
i hope we dont sell piazon for isco....piazon is a star in the making..he is a fantasi talent...you wont get talent like that often...if its loan then its okk for me...oscar and piazon are the next big thing in the making...
shlok27
@BlueAndWhiteArmy...yes we are signing and grooming a lot of really excting young talent but from your last post..''All we now need is a very good promising coach to mold them into a particular way of thinking and playing from youth to first team'' is not complete...you forgot to mention the fact that we prefer to first loan out our very talented youngsters to other clubs to prove their abilities before they can have a chance of working with our first team...not even barca does that...I dont understand that part of our ''new strategy'' where all youth must first go on loan before trasitioning...and even after the loan somtimes they are either forgotten or simply sold...why would we wanta loan Piazon to malaga?....i have tried to explain it but no matter how i deeply consider it, the move does not look good for the poor lad...at a young age, he came to england from brazil...now still at a young age we are sending him to a 3rd country with different culture language and football...these events are truly worrysome..i hope like you said...the board has a plan and I hope the plan works..
layorh12
@layorh12 WE are loaning out lot of talents from youth now bcz to reduce wages and their own development now. BCZ CFC dont have any clear way of playing unlike BARCA or Dortmund. Whether they are playing at CFC or malaga or west brom dont make any diff to our you development now. Bcz unlike CFC they will get more playing time and able to learn from diff coaches and systems but when a clear philosophy is installed from youth to first team level i am completely against loaning out our youth players. With out any particular way of playing i dont think it will make any diff to our youth now. ONCE we decided to play a particular way then it should stop. Only exceptional cases should be loaned out or similarly playing teams. We played brute strength football in 433 on jose era after him CARLO tried 433 diamond formation with out any success. Now we are playing 4231. So our current loaning of youngsters dont make much diff now in my opinion.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
My point exactly Layorh. People think loaning a player means a definite improvement. It doesn't always work like that,there's a 50/50 chance of the player's development stalling or improving. Loaning a player to a team that plays a different style to yours,and also might play him out of position doesn't always guarantee development. We have 20+ players on loan and you can ultimately count does who are doing well and developing. I'm just hopeful Piazon is able to break into a very talented Malaga squad or did we just use him as a scape goat to get Isco nonchalant about his development or playing time.
nelyvanile
in fact, i hope the whole Piazon to malaga thingy is not true...if we wanta loan the boy out at his age, lets loan to the championship or a wigan...where he can play and have a better understanding of the english game...very puzzling..
layorh12
i am crossing my fingers.....
layorh12
@layorh12 Like i said teams like barca dortmund are not loaning out lot of players bcz they have a system and particular playing style. Well Paizon to malaga makes sense mate. He came from brazil so he will speak spanish(most south american's second language is spanish) Also if we are buying ISCO from them then it will give him even more opportunities to play in their first team. Unlike other teams with malaga's financial pblms they wont sign well established players for his position.So it makes sense. but like i said these loaning out will stop once we established a particular style on all levels.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucas_Piaz%C3%B3n....guys here's some sort of further confirmation...I know its not the best of sources...but it does give some further credence to the rumour.....present club: on loan malaga!!!.....short of words if true.
layorh12
no doubt that lampard is /was a legend at the club. but i keep saying that he is not a bgger legend than RAUL was at Real Madrid. There comes a time in life when changes becomes absolutely necessary. Lampard has had his time in the sun, now his sun is setting so the club decides against a renewal of his contract. this should not cause any rancour, but one thing i have observed is the fact that because he is english, the press are giving this more slant in his favour as if the club is oblige to offer him a contract. He was well paid for his services so what exactly is the problem. Clubs sell off/pension off their players on yearly basis and both move on, why is lampard any different? no doubting is skill but there are 100s of lampard out there waiting to the discovered. If the players playing in our midfield before he was bought continued playing into their 40s would he become a legend today in the club? People should stop this foolishness of saying the club is disrespecting lampard this or that way. This is the very situation that got us in the mess last season with Lampard assuming a God-like status in the club and the likes of Alex saying that the Coach disrespected the guy by not telling him of his plans before a game. Such bull***** got AVB the sack and it is more and more looking like the club lost an assest in the guy with what he is doing at spurs. Roman/Board/Fans/ Players knew that AVB's trouble with lampard was chiefly responsible for his sack and he had vowed that he will put an end to it. I expect all of ashley, terry, and lampard to be out of the team after at the end of their contracts and you know what people, WE WILL STILL BE HERE WINING TROPHIES AND PLAYING WELL. what nonsense
Dwonder
@nelyvanile WHAT STYLE you are talking about? Chelsea dont have any style of playing. When JM was here we played particular type of defensive counter attacking style football. Other than that i dont thing we played with any style at all in RA's 10 yrs. STYLE is not just playing good football and winning. ITS about playing from top to bottom. BARCA has a particular style Dortmund has particular style. If you want to look much closer UTD has a particular style(wingers for 75% time) WIGAN has particular style(martinez implemented it there.now they are playing a particular way from 1st team to all the way down).Swansea has a style.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
no new coach will have peace of mind as long as lampard remains at the club. he wll continue giving those interviews about himself, club positions and stuff and undermining the coach. The club and owner wants a total break from the past why must lampard be treated any different from Ballack, Drogba, Alex and the rest. OH I forgot!!!!!! because he is English........
Dwonder
the reason why we loan out our younger players is because it generally means were going to spend huge amounts of money on a few players. i think we get our loans all wrong. can anyone please explain the rationale of selling miereles and loaning essien two similar players who we could really do with right now and not replacing them- why couldnt KDB or McEachran be fastracked into those positions especially- at least wed have the option, instead of only having 2 CM/DM players in our team. we though ok we will sell raul, loan essien send KDB and josh on loan and then we will panic buy fellainin in january which means that KDB and josh will go out again in summer as they wont get in past fellaini, ramires, romeu and mikel.
Blue1989
If you want to build a style of play does it start from top to bottom or bottom to top? Jeez. Have you seen the U-18 or the U-21 play under Adi Viveash? Well if you have,you would see we are building a style of play in the youth system,we play 4-2-3-1 (4-3-3 sometimes). Intricate passing based on sharp and fast counter attacking football similar to Shakthar. Manchester United established such playing styles from the reserve in 88/89,and was ultimately seen in the early 90's as the youth players graduated,its been there ever since. Barcelona established the tiki taka playing style under Cryuff youth project,Guardiola took over the project and gradually established it in the first team. Piazon was a core member of the squad last season developing his game in the hole,just behind the striker similar to where Mata plays and won the CFC youth player for 2011/2012. Its basics in football you build a project from the foundation,but the problem is we end up releasing majority of the foundation and going for top young established talents for expensive amount who can make their way directly into the first team instead of developing our own who graduate into the first team.
nelyvanile
@nelyvanile you are interpreting almost all my comments in a wrong way mate. I know how our youth team is playing. But our first team is not playing the same way. Only now in this season we some what tried to do that with RDM but he is always the care taker in the eyes of RA and the board. Still RA thinks that our CL and f.a cup win is a fluke. Nobody can deny that our cl win is once in a life time event.So still they are going for another manager to implement a style permanently. Either its PEP or MOYES or KLOPP or even RAFA.It wont matter until we define a clear philosopy. Once this is installed we must recruit the players who fits that style. Our next manager must play with in that parameters. HELL even swansea are able to tell their manager's which type of style they want. WHY cant CFC?
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Well said Blue1989...That's basically the story of our youth development.
nelyvanile
Swnsea defined their football philosophy when they were in the bottom of english football 10 years before still they are playing the same way in PL. They builded the club constantly with in that parameters. PALYERS, MANAGERS, SCOUTS, ADMINS everybody is working with that particular aim only. Until CFC didnt come to that understanding we cant have certain style. STYLE wont come easily. WE need to make sacrifices before that happens. Hiring of AVB was towards that but it went to hell in his sacking.this summer we are going to do that once again. So dont take RA and our board as imbecile and fools. They have their own fault. but they are not as naive as papers and people want us to believe.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Hope all happens, he leaves well, chelsea will be there. He stays, well he will be playing for chelsea
Kendemsblue
If Lampard can accept to be a super sub then he should stay at Chelsea. But what does the future hold for PVA, KDB, Kakuta and Bruma?
Kelly11
I find this article quite objective http://www.givemefootball.com/324733-frank-lampard-is-a-chelsea-great-but-isnt-entitled-to-a-new-deal
JohnnyOz
Not saying they are imbeciles or fools (ignorant maybe),but I am pretty sure we deserve better and more knowledgeable peeps at the helm of affairs. Who know better about how a football club should be run,and how a transition season should be handled. If you want MANAGERS, SCOUTS, ADMINS to work hand in hand,then the right people have to be placed at the right positions. If you take an in depth view of how all top and emerging clubs are run,it makes you obviously question people in charge of our decision making.
nelyvanile
some food for thought as to why the board wants the legends to go... www.chelseafcforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4026
Blue India
Well said @dwonder,u are absolutely spot on
Ken4CFC
@Blueindia. I very well remember those comments...and I remember JT coming out to disregard some of it and how his words were taken out of context. JOHN TERRY STATEMENT FROM CHELSEAFC.COM Posted on: Tue 12 Jan 2010 John Terry has today moved to distance himself from reports in the media. His statement reads: 'I was surprised and disappointed to see that some of the newspaper reports of my interview I gave to Chelsea TV have been taken completely out of context. 'The suggestion that mine or my team-mates' influence is the only reason for the club's success in recent years could not be further from the truth, and if you refer to my actual quotes, you will see that I said nobody will ever be bigger than this club, players or managers. 'I have always had the utmost respect for each of my managers, and am grateful for what each of them has done both for me personally and for Chelsea Football Club.'
nelyvanile
Dwonder, He's still one of our best players. That's why he should stay not because he's a club legend. The fact that Chelsea won the Champions League after AVB left indicates to me that Lampard & Drogba knew what they were talking about. AVB may (or may not) be successful with younger and less talented players, but at Chelsea he was like Brian Clough at Leeds Utd - a total disaster.
CobhamBlue
OFFICIAL: Piazan is going on loan to malaga until the end of the season guys.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Tubby just confirmed in the press conference that Piazon is set for malaga...case closed...is Isco coming the other way?...no one is sure....but i would think so...because the loan deal for Piazon does not look normal...to me.
layorh12
I agree with your previous comments Blue & white army - well said...
JohnnyOz
the only good thing about the Piazon signing is that i guess it will free up squad space for an incoming player...which means we are not done in this window..in terms of player purchases which I am super happy about...
layorh12
@ layorh12 I understand that Isco is a summer target for Chelsea and will not be joining in this window...
JohnnyOz
@blue and white army. You argue persuasively. Lampard, terry have been great servants of this club but sadly their time is up. Our desire for pep comes from the fact that ra wants a more organic growth model rather than an aggressive buy buy buy model. Youth development and leadership development can be achieved by a manager like pep or klop as proven in that regard
Blue India
@blue and white army. You argue persuasively. Lampard, terry have been great servants of this club but sadly their time is up. Our desire for pep comes from the fact that ra wants a more organic growth model rather than an aggressive buy buy buy model. Youth development and leadership development can be achieved by a manager like pep or klop as proven in that regard
Blue India
Can we move on from this Terry,lampard and cole issue?if you like shout ''sign him up'' at the top of your voice at stamford bridge,if you like, write numerous articles on why they should be offered another deal,the club has taken their decision.they ain't getting another deal.if they sign anything,na autograph dem sign.so can we move on please???
obimikelisdbest
I am happy piazon is going to spain, one thing that is sure is that chelsea loaned him to where his style of play would suit them and him too, I just pray he gets to the team and get playing time, if he plays for malaga in the champion's league I'll be rooting for them "natuaralmente"
Desmondadonis
@Desmond..I am not being a pessimist but I dont think he'll get quality playing time..you cant walk if you dont crawl, while he is vastly talented..Malaga for me is a step too high for the young teenager...for him the most important thing is not in the team he plays..its about playing time...I could be wrong but I dont think we'll be the happy party after the loan deal expires...except there is a clause which mandates him to play a minimun number of matches the existence of which I doubt..I taught we would have learnt a couple of lessons after loaning Josh to Swansea....I wish the young lad all the best...Like i said earlier, the only thing that makes me happy is that the loan deal suggest to me at least indirectly that we'll be seeing one or two more arrivals during this window...and i think Aspas is probably one of those players, Isco to a lesser extent...lets see what happens over the next couple of days....
layorh12
you tell them Dwonder...:)))
JohnnyOz
And I do hope it the loan deal does not end as Piazon +cash=Isco when it expires in the summer...I will be more than gutted, although Isco is a fantastic player....
layorh12
Just as I finished typing my last post...i saw the breaking news ''Aspas is off to Valencia''..I just confirmed that...loool....targets are disappearing fast, but with regard to transfers, I am sure we'll still get some good players in..and is Walcott still stalling??.....*thinking about all possibilities at the moment with Aspas gone again!!..after Taison...the agents seem to be using us or so it seems.....
layorh12
@layorh,we are an advertisin board for their client
Ken4CFC
I can't see the Aspas to Valencia news anywhere...any pointers pls?
JohnnyOz
@ken4cfc. Thats to be expected. We buy big and we are a big club. If an agent able to associate his players name with us, automatically his value goes up.
Blue India
why must lampard be treated any different from Ballack, Drogba, Alex and the rest. OH I forgot!!!!!! because he is English........ Well if you haven't realized CHELSEA FOOTBALL CLUB IS AN ENGLISH CLUB, and as an english club it should have a mojority of english players. No, you right Roman should just move chelsea to spain call it Barcelona juniors, buy midget players, have only chinese fans at the stadium, would you be happy with that?
Lakupiippu
And of all those player you named, have any of them stayed at the club for over 11 years? Been club captain for most of the 2006/07 season? Scored over 20 goals per season from 2006-2010? No he shoulnt be "treated any different",
Lakupiippu
Will he accept a pay cut? Will he be quiet if things dont go in his favour? Will accept a year contract. The board knows better than you lot.
Dare
I'm afraid i have to disagree strongly with @Lakupiippu...you may want to reconsider your statements as it may sound to some like you are advocating discrimination on the grounds of nationality....here i was thinking we had moved on from the dark times...
JohnnyOz
boulderdash...
JohnnyOz
The club should offer Frank Lampard a new 2 year contract at 70k per week. If Frank is not prepared to accept the reduction in wages, that is his choice. The club can then announce that they have offered the player a new 2 year deal , but unfortunately both parties could not reach an agreement. End of story. The fans will then accept the situation. By offering him nothing, is disrespectful and short sighted by the club.
Blueheart9
Ehn!so because CFC is an english club we should give all our english players life contract right?? Why dont an englishman buy up CFC from roman they pay astronomical fees to 35year old english players that have long past their prime or better stil sell off all the foreign players and replace them with english players huh?...incase u dont know CFC is a global brand and its means of survival does not only lay in england but around the globe,its fanbase is not only in england but around the world.
Ken4CFC
Raul and guti stayed at real madrid for as long as 16years but when the time to move on came,they moved..so whether he lamps has been here for 11,12 or 13years is irrevelant,when the time comes to move he should move..it would not take anything away from his legendary status
Ken4CFC
The loan of Piazon to Malaga just reinforces what i and some others have been saying about the schizophrenic way our club is run. Really our squad already has major squad depth issues and our response in the january transfer window is to loan out one of our best attacking midfield talents to Malaga where he may well end up like Josh did at Swansea (and BTW we had way more influence and clout in influencing the Swansea situation with Brendan Rodgers there than we do at Malaga with Pellegrini). Meanwhile we have a bunch of Carling cup, FA cup and Europa league games lined up along with the hectic BPL schedule..in essence our squad depth just took a hit and is one less than before and we add to out swelling contingent on loan...and this makes sense? Really???
GabeU
The club is not oblige to offer anybody contract,the club have decided not to offer lampard a contract,its within the right of the club to offer a contract or not,and clearly they wont offer him one and that does not take anything away from his legendary status,so where is all this talk of "disrespect" comin from??
Ken4CFC
 

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