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Reading 2 Chelsea 2

Chelsea failed to get back to winning ways tonight after a 2-0 lead over Reading evaporated late on at the Madejski stadium.

Juan Mata provided the opener after an uninspiring first half display and Chelsea went 2-0 up via Frank Lampard in the second half, but the Royals battled to the final whistle and somehow managed to pull level at the death.

Rafael Benitez opted to rest John Terry after his return from injury against Brentford at the weekend, whilst Fernando Torres was preferred ahead of Demba Ba up front.

The blues lacked penetration early on, as Reading pressed well and disrupted the pattern of play.

The Royals soon had a decent spell of possession of their own, but couldn't put Chelsea under any pressure.

With twenty minutes gone and no significant Chelsea effort on goal to speak of, Reading looked the more contented side. We slowly started to exert more pressure in their final third, but couldn't make it count.

Reading captain McAnuff was booked in the 27th minute, after a dangerous looking challenge on Oscar. Gary Cahill had a free header from the resulting set piece, but couldn't get his effort on target.

Chelsea were looking good on the ball, dominating possession and spreading the play in an effort to find a way through.

Ryan Bertrand shot wide in the 37th minute, after Fernando Torres got on the end of a Branislav Ivanovic long ball and chested it into his path.

As half time approached we continued to look comfortable as Reading afforded us time and space on the ball, but we couldn't make the most of our possession.

Juan Mata conjured up a great chance on in the 40th minute, wrestling free from two defenders before finding Oscar on the edge of the box with a nice lob, but Fernando Torres messed up the opportunity and served up a wayward shot.

Ashley Cole shot well wide in the 42nd, as we continued to look for the breakthrough.

Reading had a late spell of attacking intent, but Gary Cahill and Frank Lampard both looked assured defensively as they marshalled the threat easily enough.

Chelsea finally found a way through in stoppage time, Mata layed the ball off to Torres on the edge of the box before making a great run, Torres picked him out with a lofted through ball and he smashed a shot across his body and past the keeper.

Our first shot on target had been a long time in coming, but finally we found ourselves on top as the whistle blew for half time.

Rafael Benitez refrained from making any changes at the half, with Brian McDermott likewise opting to send out the same eleven for Reading.

Fernando Torres created our first chance of the half, laying on a cross for Ryan Bertrand in the box.

Oscar squandered a chance in the 54th minute after making a great run to get on the end of a Lampard pass, instead of laying it off to the open Fernando Torres he tried and failed to pull off an acrobatic shot.

Ross Turnbull looked shaky in trying to deal with a long ball from Reading, missing his punch completely, but fortunately for him Pogrebnyak was flagged for offside.

The Royals made the first change of the evening, McDermott replacing Danny Guthrie with Gareth McCleary.

Reading had a rare period of possession after an Ashley Cole foul gifted them a free kick, but couldn't make anything of it.

Frank Lampard headed home in the 64th minute, meeting a Juan Mata corner mid-air and dispatching it into the back of the net to put Chelsea 2-0 up.

Chelsea continued to look calm and assured, pushing forward in search of a third goal to put the game to bed once and for all.

Rafael Benitez took off Juan Mata in the 76th minute, replacing him with Yossi Benayoun whilst Brian McDermott brought on Akpan in place of the struggling Karacan.

Reading had a rare opportunity from a free kick, but Adam Le Fondre couldn't control his header and he sent the ball over the bar.

Gary Cahill went down after a clash of heads with McCleary in the 81st minute, but was soon on his feet again.

The Royals continued to look for a goal, but Le Fondre once again served up a wayward effort that didn't trouble Ross Turnbull. Oscar soon found himself through on goal, but squandered his chance.

Reading notched up a dramatic goal in the 86th minute as Le Fondre got the better of Turnbull inside the box, sparking them to life late on and giving them hope.

As the game went into the five minute spell of injury time, Benitez brought on Ba in place of Torres in an effort to chew up the clock.

Reading surged forward late in search of the equaliser, and Le Fondre once again popped up to score a vital goal and equalise right at the death.

Chelsea should have wrapped up a comfortable three points tonight, but late defensive lapses and a failure to shut off the game when given the chance have contributed to another embarrassing evening.

As our away form appears to be slipping, chances of a top four finish are looking increasingly uncertain and much improvement is needed if we are to meet our targets going forward.

Chelsea: Turnbull, Azpilicueta, Cahill, Ivanovic, Cole, Ramires, Lampard, Oscar, Mata (Benayoun 76), Bertrand, Torres (Ba 90+2)

Unused Substitutes: Hilario, Ferreira, Marin, Terry, Ake




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Date:Wednesday January 30 2013

Time: 10:17PM

Your Comments

Nobody here! Hahahaha
blueblood4life
when last have we won with Turnbull? Sell that guy. He is not worthy to play for Chelsea Reserve
Brownny
in RDM we trusted.RAFA OUT!!!
Cobham78
Tubby's obsession with rotation has once again reaped the wrong reward. I am just totally dumbfounded. We are looking more and more like Benetiz Liverpool.
BlueABS
Rafa ...'it's difficult to take.....that's football!'
dickturpin
Someone is getting sacked...
k.chelski
Just sign the petition!
charliethecooke
Just make terry and lampard playing managers. Maybe cech to
Lakupiippu
Stop blaming turnbull,he is decent as a back up goalkeeper!!!no good or world class keeper will want to come to chelsea(just like butland)....just keep singing "you are getting sacked in the morning"
Hazard11
How I miss Di Matteo. Or Gus Hiddink, or Mourinho, or Avram Grant, or Ancelotti. Basically anyone who has a ******** clue.
k.chelski
We are the only top team who consistently lets in goals in the last 10 min of the match; let alone 2 goals in 5 minutes
bleedblueSTL
I am disgusted
bleedblueSTL
We have to move on. This was painfull but the players must realise they made a big big mistake at the end and do everything to make sure it never EVER happens again. On to newcastle which is a must win game, spuds play away to westbrom at the weekend, hopefully they will loose and arsenal play stoke and we all know how hard it is to break stoke down, hopefully arsenal will also loose and hopefully we will win.
TafChels
So is Rafa sacked yet? Where is Roman? Maybe he'll sack him via Skype. Who knows.
foreign_viewer
Can't believe the guys here trying to defend Rafa. So absurd. The guy has totally lost it. Why play Bertrand at LW against Reading and Brendford? To fend off forward runs by their full backs? That should be their worry. How would Rafa line us up against Barca or Madrid? He is a plague. The ealier gotten rid off, the better.
emperorzert12
How the bloody hell can you Blaim Rafa for our ball watching defenders letting two goals in,in the last three minutes,get real.
THEBREEZE
Thank goodness I chose to watch the Copa Del Rey El Classico instead. It was a draw too but it was worth watching. Reals best performance in recent times. The summer for CFC can't come soon enough...
traykidd
I tot the BA substitution was the biggest howler of the night for a coach who is being paid and who some here say is a tactical genius...yes the team was tired and could not maintain the same energy level for 90 minutes...but a good coach with a decent head over his shoulders will know how to manage that...Tubby brought on BA on the 89 minute, what was the tactical reason behind that..?..may be to waste time!!!!...lol...for me starting torres was a bad decision but i dont wanta go into that cos it can be argued argued either ways... at 2-1, a coach half decent who knew the team was thin and tired would have brought on JT...and switched to a 5-3-2 for the remaining 6 minutes...Rafa is as clueless as a church rat...the most painful part for me was wasting the better part of the past two days arguging with folks like @ken whose God father is Tubby...when I could have used my time for somthing more productive, there is nothing to argue...rafa is clueless and it is obvious as day light....I am actually indifferent as to whether he is sacked now or left till the end of the season...it acutally makes no difference to me....enough said.
layorh12
Hope Mata's knock wasn't that serious.
emperorzert12
Hope Mata's knock that serious.
emperorzert12
***^^^and switched to a 5-3-2 to counter attack the opponent or a flat 5-4-1 to just block all the available spaces and kill off the for the remaining 6 minutes or thereabout...either terry on was the right sub and not BA on...rafa is a moron...i am sorry.
layorh12
***^^^and switched to a 5-3-2 to counter attack the opponent or a flat 5-4-1 to just block all the available spaces and kill off the game for the remaining 6 minutes or thereabout...either ways terry on was the right sub and not BA on at 89 minutes...rafa is a moron...i am sorry...apologies for the typos..
layorh12
Blaming Benitez for the loss seems a tad bit harsh before the Reading goal dare I say even until the Ba substitution we looked comfortable and Oscar really should have scored to put the tie to bed but my point is in injury time there is not a lot a manager can do by way of tactics to change a game. Benitez dammed if he does damned if he don't.
Anarchy
Never before, has so much been owed to so many, by so few!!!
dickturpin
In Rafa we're bust!
Pantisocrates
i was just reading the score and was it really two - two
123spurs
Ofcos rafa would always get the blame,he instructed the defenders to go to sleep in the last 7mins...if this team cannot beat QPR,southampton and reading even without a coach then we are in trouble,they do what they like cos the coach would always be the scapegoat all the time
Ken4CFC
Rafa is a problem firstly because many fans won't back the team with him in charge leading to lower morale. Also he's a problem as he's too arrogant to admit when he's wrong. Also he keeps making changes in matches way too late for them to be effective. BUT.... Rafa is also not the only problem we have. He keeps bleating on about squad depth, and despite how much of a tw*t he is, he's actually right! We have one of the worst squads in the top half of the table. Best it's shocking. We need 3 players this deadline day... A keeper so Turdbull can finally be kicked out. A centre midfielder who can tackle AND the pass (that would be novel!!) and finally a decent RW player so we don't keep playing central players out wide where they are completely ineffective. 1st problem = squad. 2nd = poor manager 3rd = clueless board for football matters
Bizarre_Blue
Blaming Benitez is letting our back 4 off the hook .They should b ashamed of themselves .They are seasoned internationals and 3 of them r european cup holders for cryin out loud . Blame rafas line up ,subs r wharever but thats no excuse for such poor poor defending, internationals they are !!!! Would u belive that ??? Ivanovic and cahill are the most over rated cb's ever . They cant even organise a back line and they fall apart when under pressure ,iva is a disaster waitin to happen , cahill is inconsistant as hell ,they do my head in . Its shockin defending that cost us this game .
ZolaIsALegend
At this rate,i dont mind us booting this man out of the club b4 summer. I can even do a better job than him. He is way to clueless than i thought. The best news i want to wake up to is that he has been sacked. For the first time ,i say RAFA OUT!!
Ohans
@bizzare_blue,i agree with u,rafa is a problem because the fans wont back the team with him in charge..as for the late subs,dont u think he makes them cause of the lack of quality squad depth.i mean just take a look at our bench u would realise there is only 1 or zero game changers,gone are those days when we had bench stucked with players like anelka,kalou,alex,meireles,deco,essien,malouda e.t.c...many here blame him for everything but am glad u equally realise that rafa alone is not the problem
Ken4CFC
Bring back jose it's either us or city. Preferably us because trying to chase the 2 Manchester clubs next year with jose and sir Alex in charge will be almost impossible
Chelsea ken
I AM SICK of continually waking up early in australia to watch performances like this, i was brainwashed into a JUVENTUS supporter from an early age, yet found my first true love at around age 12 in CHELSEA, after my nonno showed me clips of ZOLA. I am now 27. Ive found this year to be the most difficult for me although never questioning my choice. Yet i will question numerous things via point form>>>> 1. RAFAS TACTICS need i say more but honestly the guy got it right once bringing on 3 hungry brazilians as super subs, can u recall what happened? Bertrand on left wing? if u guna leave some RDM behind u shouldve acknowleged him another way! 2. RAFAS LOAN RECALLS if u cant buy recall but y the ***** benayoun ( so u can have another *****ewr to talk too n suk ass ) 3. TURNBALL i would rather put in cech with an extra helmet and tied in the centre with rope attached to all four limbs because verbally we will get more 4. TURNBALLPART2 i play aussie rules footy as well as futsall. I can catch better than this guy. if u dnt believe me try me!!! 5. TORRES some things better left unsaid 6. FELLAINI are we guna get this *****iong guy? he is the answer to everything!!!!!!! 7. COURTOIUS-FALCAO-BARCELONA if we lose the first yet dont get the second then we got raped 8. NEYMAR LUKAKU could be the most dominant left right combination going around POETINTALLY in a year or two and neither would be over 23 yr old by then..... i would prefer this than falcao we have time to prepare for it, it pretty much aligns with our ' transition period' would be nice to know this is the case, and maybe gift rapping COURTOUIS for BARCELONA will give us the go ahead for NEYMAR 9. MOSES our best buisness for a long time, after seeing some performances and reading his story i think his destined for big things like DROGBA just my opinion.... cant wait for NIGERIA vs IVORY 10. CHELSEA REVELOUTION lukaku neymar oscar hazard mata moses ramires fellaini piazon or isco etc i would be over the moon with this 11. SUPPORT THE TEAM or things may turn from bad to worse, we are building something special but all this youngtalent maybe lost along the way if we dont qualify for champions leauge. i know his a FSW but boo his ass on the wayout not when we need to win!!!
Bain^DoggZ
SORRY i am in two minds over 2 things......... falcao or neymar? even though it may not exist? But moreeee importantly did the board ***** us or FSW ***** us? its so obvious, what we need cough FELLAINI no one in our squad can fill the makelele void yet we spend 7 mil on marin? and send off essien and merieles, i mean we play two people there and they cant do the job of one.... and even if we hadve kept them MIKEL MERILES ***** buys ESSIEN probly came closest but we dnt use anyway... get the *****ing guy and train luiz to be competition, u put a gun to luiz head and say dnt let ball pass you within 5 metres of you, it wont pass, yet the others will get shot, use the two together you will see mazacar or even betrand lift performances 10 to 15 % im *****ing serious yet we spend on ba to use as torress back up hahahahahahahahaha but yet FSW dont see simple things and try 4321 until we get suitable players back from injury or into the squad, playing lampard and ramires there for now like trying to make a ho a housewife....... i guess they can share the blame!
Bain^DoggZ
RAFA AND ROMAN share the blame... roman buy fellaini, rafa 451 4321 442 just not ramires lampard or mikel romeu, ramires is good but need luiz or fellaini or figure like that next to him
Bain^DoggZ
u can blame rafa, but for any team right down to school boys and loose 2 goals in laster 8 minutes of any match is shamful, yes manager controls tacitcs but he cant control there mind
123spurs
we also have a bunch of wasters playing for us
123spurs
Guys, dont blame turnbull .Our defence set up prior to that second goal was the worst. There were 4 Reading players unmarked prior to that free kick and guess what, Mata was standing at the edge of the box right behind them just ball watching not pressing any of those guys.. I already lost all interest in this season, Just waiting for it to be over. Cos we are have contracted a huge failure and we just have to deal with it..
TheIncrediblue
Rafa a Tactician...RIPLEY'S Believe It Or Not...
shlok27
our players let us down today, they should have done better... the defense was shambolic....I know it's easy to blame Rafa but our players lack of concentration is a big issue.....
Latunvic
it's clear as daylight, Rafa is clueless, he is a goner, he completely destroy and *****ed our team to the core, can't even win againts mediocre team, QPR, Westham, Southampton, Brentford, Reading; i'm sorry but for a team spend 80m in the summer, this is walk in the park, this is so disappointing, the player are having hard time, i feel for them, there's no manager to support the player, why play Torres? why play Bertrand? he is clearly not a Chelsea quality and will never be and he played him as left winger, oh god, and Torres should be sent to league 1 which he can actually score goals and start being useful to the team. If today we don't spend some serious transfer dealing, than i can say we are gone for the season, i fear us loosing that champions league qualifications, having Benitez in the helm is like having Avram grant in the helm.
chelsea44
why people blame Rafa, please explain to me why that fat waiter plays Bertrand at left wing against Brentford and Reading, i can understand when he plays Bertrand againts Arsenal, he says it was because he needed someone to guard Walcott and help A.Cole, what a complete utter nonsense reason, clearly he is clueless and will keep playing Bertrand there for the next 5 matches till Hazard is available again
chelsea44
manager inspire of how your team play, of course that's why we blame Rafa, he's done nothing, he got no clue, he deserve all the blame been happening to us, look what he did with Pool, what he did with Inter milan, still can't believe what i just saw the last two matches
chelsea44
I lost my link last night around 80th min. I thought we are going to win it comfortably. When I saw the score line in the morning, 1st thing I checked was if Rafa has been sacked or not. If he has not been sacked yet then shame on Roman. May be he deserves Rafa only.
Keyser Soze
for gods sake somebody sack this piece of *****.GOD GOD GOD why are you hate my beloved chelsea. Is it your revenge for winning the CL? GOD GOD. I really really snapped last night guys. I am not going for a match or seeing a match on t.v until this son of a Wh0re is out of my club. GOD WHY? WHY? WHY this pathetic *****.GOD i will take even a donkey over this *****. These players can play by themselves if they sack him now. They will get to the top4 easily. Manager is someone supposed to install confidence in your team players and fans etc. This piece if ***** just wanders around the touchline with out any emotion. I bet this piece of ***** will now think "Oh well at least we didnt lost the match. We gained 1 point.Still everything is good" WHY god WHY? SOMEBODY SACK this piece of *****.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
running out of hair to pull out of my head >:o
blus4eva
if the player can play by themselves even tho there are no manager , they should win against 19th position team in the league.
im not saying i dont blame rafa but the player shares the blame .
JackSufre
"I find it difficult to explain why we didn't win this". Poor Rafa. His stay has been a total lack of tactics. We lose against a poor side who have 2 shot on targets, both goals with 3 minutes of ordinary time remaining. Okay, Turnbull isn't reflecting reliability but we should have still shut shop in time. Rafa needs to go. Anyone can do it better!
1970Blue
No one blamed Luiz for his cock ups during RDM era nor Torres or anyone else. Rafa should get as much blame as RDM did as the repeat of what happened under RDM is happening under Rafa. In a way, I am glad Rafa is still here. The draws and losses continues to slap Roman in his face easily and justice for all his silly and stupid decisions. The performance of Rafa are results of the owner's decisions. Good for him. Time for him to stop playing FIFA 2013 and Manager with the club.
KAKUfrank
Time for Emenalo to go as well. He forced Rafa signing which is a total mess. He may produce childish graphics but a tactical manager he isn't.
1970Blue
for people here putting the entire blame on the team and the back 4, they need to think a bit more deeply...it is common knowledge that the squad is thin and the players are tired as we play a game every 3 days and the squad is not big enough....but then the coach is on the sidelines, he does not play the game itself and he is not tired...he knows these things and can also access and see how tired these players are as the is nearing the end of a match....this is where he is supposed to earn his pay...do whatever it will take to see the game out and ensure three points...there was a similar pattern when we played arsenal recently when they almost snatched a point late in the second half bcos the players were tired obviously...but tubby has not and WILL NEVER LEARN....he saw these things...for a coach with his level of experience he should have known that when players are tired, its a lot more difficult to concentrate...and he should have protected these players by making the right sub towards the end of the match...what did our tactical master do?...he brought on BA for torres when the score was 2-1....now was BA going to contribute anything defensively to ensure we saw out the game?...is Ba not a striker?....for Christ sake we had rock captain on the bench who can organize and can motivate...and no matter how match unfit he was, i am sure he could still a job in the remaining 6 minutes.....switch to a freaking 5-4-1, defend for your life and go away with the dope 3 points..then we can sympathatize and say even though our players were tired, we had a coach who managed it like a world class coach and gave us the hard earned points...isnt that what tubby's job is supposed to be?...but alas tubby 'the great' in his infinite wisdom brought on BA...that substitution alone deserves a penal charge of 3 months wages....in all honesty...like a said earlier..it makes no difference to me whether he is sacked now or let go in the summer....he is of no use to us...i cant imagine even RDM Mourinho, carlo, SAF, Wenger bringing on a striker in a game on the edge where they are leading by a single goal....2-1 with just 7 minutes to play...and yet I keep reading some naive comments here say tubby is a world class coach...world class my ass!....an idiotic moron trying to ruin the club and the team...let his fans on this forum tell him...he has failed already.
layorh12
It's like groundhog day, we are going the same way Liverpool did after their CL success. Rotation for rotation's sake. Common denominator is Tubby. At least, under RDM we played some damn fine football, just didn't turn up in a few (important) games and our defence became jittery. The defence can be sorted, but once again, when Brana is in the centre, who actually organises the defence? We desperately needed a defence coach under RDM and as far as I can see, there is no 'coaching' going on under Tubby. Just rotation for rotation's sake. Same as the Pool days.
BlueABS
How da hell can chelsea not see out another 2goal lead with less than 6minutes of added time against a relegation team?? With rafa u win against d likes of arsenal and lose to the likes of QPR and draw brentford, southhampton and reading. The truth is if we continue that way, we would be out of top 4 long before may cos u stand a far better chance of accumulating more points when u lose and draw against the few top teams and then win all your small team matches than when its the other way round. I probably need a break from all these sh.i.t.
Chelz Akamz
My friends came to my house yesterday and forced me to watch the copa del rey el clasico, I switched to the chelsea match at half time to check the score 1-0, was happy, checked again around 80min 2-0, definitely game sealed I believed, but to my utter horror checked the score after the el clasico and saw 2-2 almost ran mad, can't keep a 2 goals lead against Reading for 10mins??? It's a shame.
sojofjand
I just can't get over the second Reading goal, 3 or 4 players completely unmarked. It's like rabbits in headlights with our defenders, all get drawn to a ball popping around in our area. Where the deck is the organisation in our defence, who takes responsibility in set plays. It is totally amateurish. That is down to coaching and in-play lack of tactics. Close up shop at 2-0 for goodness sake, bag the 3 points. More-so when you are 2-1. What does Tubby do, striker for striker to try and waste all of 30 seconds of time. Absolutely total amateur. Serves you right Roman.
BlueABS
and like i told some of my buddies here 2 weeks ago, Brana is on the decline and its so easy to see...it is bcos of players like him that Roman has the 30 year old rule in place...for me, if we get a decent offer in the summer...we should let him go...and get some kish...age is telling on him already...and my view is not based on yesterday's result...ts my general overall observation....a move to italy will be very good for him...the league is a lot slower with lower intensity, he'll be a fecking tank there....
layorh12
There is no need wasting time arguing with the rafa supporters. Rafa have squandered the opportunity to impress his tactics and system on this squad. He was suppose to be better than robbie but he has so far been worst and he is fast running out of post-press conference excuses. It is going to get worst with that muppet still in charge. So u either take a break from chelsea or u brace up for the worst.
Chelz Akamz
Why didn't Chelsea get cudicini from spurs before joining mls, get diame from west asap good tackler in the midfield.
Pila12
This one hurts a lot more than the Southampton draw, and quite honestly, we didn't deserve the draw with Brentford.
BlueABS
There is no need wasting time arguing with the rafa supporters. Rafa have squandered the opportunity to impress his tactics and system on this squad. He was suppose to be better than robbie but he has so far been worst and he is fast running out of post-press conference excuses. It is going to get worst with that muppet still in charge. So u either take a break from chelsea or u brace up for the worst.
Chelz Akamz
oh man this is depressing to say the least..:(
chelsea44
Tubby is killing Oscar as well, all the confidence that Robbie instilled in this kid is being drawn away by Benitez, it's a tragedy. Oscar will rue his miss for 3-0 but he should not shoulder any blame, FT has missed dozens of those in his time at Chelsea. We will lose Oscar if we don't start playing him in the position he is used to.
BlueABS
Rafa substitutions against Swansea away we are 2-0 down from the first leg and desperately looking for goals 15mins to end of match Sub Ivanovic for Luiz leaving a striker on the bench. Reading away 2-1 up need to shove up the back for 5min Sub Ba for Torres with JT defence stalwart and even Paulo Ferreiraon the bench. So much much for tactical genious.
sojofjand
@Chelz Akamz,i wish i can really take that break. This coach is killing my love for the game and my desire to watch a particular club play it. I dont no where to start in pointing all the things he got wrong last night that made us draw the match. He clearly is not the man for us: as a person and as a tactician.
Ohans
The only Chelsea transfer I want to hear about on the last day today is that of Tubby's transfer to the dole queue.
BlueABS
the rdm system was actually a decent system that needed tweaks here and there...especially defensively as well as in terms of depth (the system needed a bit more of numbers to ensure the band of MAZACAR dint play all the matches and tire out)...but Roman struck and gave us the fat spanish waiter who has been serving us delicious s.hit since he arrived..now cudos to roman!!!!...lol
layorh12
If you re looking for the major reason why we squandered a 2 goal lead against a relegation team,look no further than Rafa Benitez and his tactical incompetence and if you think you cant find it there,am afraid you re in denial. I can blame our numerous problems so far this season on a wide range of issues,but for last nights debacle,it is clearly down to the manager and it isnt the first and only time and it is unpardonable ,imo. To hell with his excuses,he is not good enough. I wonder how he manage to win the trophies he won.
Ohans
I tried to stay away from the thread until i was sure i was calm enough to comment...Jeez what in bloody hell was that yesterday. I've tried to ride the wave and stay on my surf board till the summer,but its hard to stay calm and surf when the waves keep battering you painfully. Rafa is just a symptom in this whole debacle,the board is the cause. We've dropped 12 pts against Fulham, west ham, QPR, Soton & reading,all win-able games. We'd be 1 point off Utd. Its just not good enough. Is it coincidence that 3 defending UCL winners have been ***** the next season under Rafa? Liverpool,Inter and now Chelsea? Back to yesterdays game,the manager does have a good amount of blame for his tactical display and subs,but so do the players for their inability to keep their concentration for 90mins. Fatigue or no fatigue,this lads are freaking professionals,I'm not earning thousands of pounds weekly to finish games off like yesterday,and so is the manager. Results have to improve and they have to improve soon,how long can we go on like this? For how long can we be so inconsistent? According to some friends,there's a huge demonstration being planned for the weekend,and fans planning to sneak banners into the pitch,sounds like its going to be pretty hostile at the weekend and results have increased animosity within the fan base. Its really sad it has to come this...really sad.
nelyvanile
@Ohans even me too, i wish i can take that break but honestly i cant. Yesterday i chosen not to watch a chelsea match for the 1st time in my more than 10years of supporting this beloved club prefering rather to watch the el classico. Yet i couldnt help but follow the game online, refreshing ever 5minutes. Despite that, i was still heartbroken at the final result. So i ve decided to brace up for the worst so that it wont be that painful when it happens. I told myself that the worst thing that can happen this season is to miss out on top 4 so am bracing up for that. It wont be the end of the world, would it? Maybe that would be the catalyst that would help change our management style for the better.
Chelz Akamz
First of all,why start Bertrand in the LW? After seeing how Ba combined very well with Torres at Brentford,they should have started the game together last,and maybe after comfortable lead would have been taken,Bertrand can be introduce,if he must,to help defend the lead. Okay,Bertrand started,but is was apparent enough he was useless going forward and we werent really defending,why did he had to play all 90min.? Ba would have come on like in the Brendford but a bit earlier in the 65-70min to add impetus to our attack which could have ensured more goals . Secondly, i didnt xpect him to sub off Mata,and believe me, that is what killed our game. I understand the desire to protect your best player,but seeing that Mata represented our only chance of keeping the ball and looking out for attacking routes,to keep the opponent at bay,why make that sub without adequate cover for that. People here are blaming Turnbull,Iva,Oscar etc,i dont see what the players did wrong. The subs were sh.it and it altered the shape of our team play which inadvertenly collapsed our game. No matter how good the players are,if they play without the right shape and balance,they are bound to play under pressure. I knew the game will end that way cos with those crap tactical moves,it was clear to me that we ve lost control of the game. #Rafa out pleeeeeaaaaaase!!
Ohans
I see!! every time an English Cfc player comes to the media to talk of the players backing the manager,the manager often ends up on the chop board without escaping the axe. Terry>Scholari,Cahill>AvB,Cahill>Rafa. Lets hope so,shall we??
Ohans
@Ohans I feel your frustration..and i understand it...but we just have to try and be calm...amidst all these...lets hope for something in terms of transfers or loan recalls today..although i must admit the chances are not good...but we'll wait and see....i still dont think tubby wil be sacked though...news on tweetwe says Hiddink will be our next coach haing been persuaded by Roman to delay his retirement....hmmm...i hope so !
layorh12
The doomsday chronicles ahah and well deserved too...On to St James Park. I really dont want to say too much because of how disappointed i am atm, and it shows how little confidence i have in the team, if with 4 minutes to go and 2 nil up, i still had no confidence that the game was won. That for me has nothing to do with the board. It is the players and Rafa that have somehow contrived to snatch a draw from the jaws of victory (this is the reason it feels worse than a defeat almost) I think Marco Materazzi may have been right...Rafa Benitez is a curse....I havent supported a managerial change so far this season, but i have lost the will to see my club managed by this excuse for a manager. I say RAFA OUT & JT in charge as player/manager till the end of the season...couldnt get any worse! NOW where is that darn petition?
JohnnyOz
I stop rating a coach when ever i notice lapses on regular bases,such lapses that make me think i can do a better job. Tbh,some decisions or team news by this coaches that i thought would be wrong or would have been a bit different has ended up as bad moves,and it angers me that it is a supposedly world class coach like Rafa that makes such very obvious horrible decisions. I might not have the FIFA license,but i took up my community team and coached in my hometown's 2012 December tournament. We won the trophy without conceeding a single goal. If not anything,i know where a player should be played and when he should be subbd off.
Ohans
Bring back Essien, McEchran and de Bruyne; buy Butland and loan out Marin.
icebluelg
@Johnny. I really wouldn't mind Steve Holland and JT as lamps as assistant.
nelyvanile
@layorh, am really gutted. I thought i could hang in there till summer,i fear the worst now. This trait of dropping points against mediocre was one of the reasons i hated Rafa when he was at pool,as he often gave good shifts against big teams,and you and i know that there are more number of mediocre teams than big teams,you should the implication of that. Like they say,old habits die hard. Like Johnny,i have never canvassed for a coach to be sacked in Cfc,except maybe Scholari,i crave stability,but with Rafa thats alot to ask. Lets Have Hiddink ASAP!!
Ohans
Can someone please tell me I was dreaming? I had a nightmare that Tubby rescued a draw from victory again ... Please tell me it didnt happen
Blue_Mel
I actually can't believe I'm saying this but if Roman had to sack RDM why the hell didn't he appoint Uncle Harry? He's way ahead of the FSW. Now I know the players have to take responsibility but we are 2-0 up, JT needs game time and we don't bring him on?? We bring on Yossi phukin Bennayoun, a player that has done NOTHING for Chelsea in 3 years!! I can see top 4 slipping away here.
CobhamBlue
how the heck did he not start JT in that game? or bring him on with 10mins to go to stifle things at the back esp with set plays? Rafa always seems to be watching a different game to everyone else and he is the most prejudiced manager i have ever seen. What was FT9 doing in the starting line up or starting back to back games when we have Demba Ba. The guy is a clueless nitwit. I hope i never meet him or he'll get a mouthful....and possibly a fistful. The board need to make a decision soon, because i can sense a Stamford Bridge revolt against Rafa building up, and it wont be pretty!!
JohnnyOz
We once again threw away a 2 goal lead to end up drawing. Did that suprise anybody? Well, i for one wasn't suprised. What else can we expect from a team of players who lack leadership and character? There was a time chelsea team cld play with one goal lead for 120 minutes without letting it slip no matter the team they were playing against either big or small but what has gone wrong? European champions indeed! The difference between a small team and a big team with world class players is the ability of players to take responsibilties and decide a game on their own. When barcelona's coach was sick, barca still won matches cos the players decided games. When man u is playing matches, we don't see alex ferguson standing on d touchline to dish out instuctions to his players. All he does is to sit on bench and chew gum throughout 90mins. When man u is 1 or 2 goals up and they find it difficult to score more goals, nobody instructs Rvp, rooney, valencia, nani n co to come back and help defence, make tackles and interception in the midfield to win back the ball when they lose possession. But what do we see from the chelsea squad 2012-2013 season, we are 2 goals up and every player on pitch begins to stroll aimlessly as if there's nothing at stake, d so called stand in captain frank lampard abandons his major responsiblities in d double pivot to only ramires looking for his own personal goals in d opponents' 18 yard box. This only makes us do well when we have possession and we are attacking but when we're being attacked, lack of stability in our double pivot disrupts d general stability in our midfield, limits our defensive covers and most of d time expose our defenders to two on one situations when teams catch us on the counter. The fact that lampard has been scoring d penalties won by his teammates with 2 or 3 other goals doesn't seem to make people realise he's the number 1 problem in our midfield. Since he has been playing in our double pivot, how many times has he won back possession for us? How many tackles or interceptions has he made? How many times does he help us hold on to d ball from deep position in the dieing minutes of a game when we need to retain possession to take off pressure? As stand in captain, how many times does he organise d team to knw when to attack and when to defend? How many times does he help out in defending and shielding our back 4 which is his primary responsiblity? Thesame problem mikel faced when paired with lampard in d double pivot at d beginning of d season is what ramires too is now facing. Some matches are won 1-0,2-1. In some games, it's difficult to score. As useless as fat spanish virus is, if we throw away a 2 goal lead in d last 10mins of a game against a relegation team, the players are d biggest disgrace because of their lack of coordination, leadership and character. Sub or no sub, every player on pitch should learn to take reponsibilties. They are playing for chelsea football club, nt benitez. We're being attacked and no single player on pitch makes any efforts to mark opponents. It's a pity. Do we have to score 3 goals for us to be able to win a match? Any player who says he won't play well because he doesn't like benitez is a fool. Why were they nt playing well n conceeding 3 goals per match if they loved di matteo so much? Why did they nt play well to save his job so dt rafa won't come? Rafa will be gone by may n it is d players who will bear d bigger shame for whatever happens. Even guardiola or ferguson will struggle to achieve anything with this present squad dt lacks self coordination. With this current squad, we will only win matches against poor teams or teams who themselves lack coordination and allow us win but against teams with guts and determination, we would continue to struggle. We only decieve ourselves dt we have a worldclass squad but at best, dis squad without leadership is only as good as championship or division 1 clubs like ipswich town or nottingham forest. I can't wait for AFCON to end cos we badly need moses n mikel back so dt oscar n lampard can go back to d bench. Oscar jst runs most of the time, we see him playing but nobody can really pinpoint any positive impact he makes in our games apart from 1 or 2 odd goals. He's just confused. I don't even think our players check d league table at all to knw where they are. We drop points when our rivals gain points and when they too drop points, rather than win to close d gap, we still carelessly drop points too. Don't they feel ashamed and sit down to check themselves? So so sad. I'm just *****ed off. Shame on benitez and shame on our players.
Petrov
@Cobham...plain to see the reason why Yossi was brought on....Is the Fat Waiter's best buddy from Liverpool again....I wouldnt be surprised if we signed Gerrard instead of Falcao in the summer if Tubby isnt fired
Blue_Mel
@ Nely - Steve Holland? not sure to be honest, but could he do any worse? Perhaps Fabio Capello for me in tandem with his Russian post till the end of the season? and then we absolutely have to bring Jose back...
JohnnyOz
@Jonnyoz....i still wonder how come it took you this long to come to this rafa conclusion of yours...seeing that you are an intelligent young man...but i guess you were trying to be a good fan....mate, its impossible with Rafa...that was why I was so adamant we had this argument with him together with his God son -@ken...loool....***shaking my head...lol..that makes two of us in the agama moves...(myself and @Mq)....LMAO....!!!!!
layorh12
The word TACTICIAN has been removed from oxford dictionary.....because it cant take all the abuse it has been receving world wide in the name of RAFA....
shlok27
.......Every body can see what @Ken cant seeee...looooooool.... "Should Rafa Benitez be doing better with that squad?" the Sky presenter asks Jamie Redknapp. "Absolutely," he says. "I don't expect Benitez to be there next season." Will he even last this one out, one wonders? And does this uncertainty make Chelsea less like to do any business today? In a logical world, one would says "yes". But Chelsea probably don't bother too much about whether the current manager wants such-and-such a player anyway, do they? That rumour about Fellaini is deffo one to keep an eye on. and thats the Fellani rumour hitting up....i hope it comes to somthing....
layorh12
@ layorh - i dont think mid season managerial change should be taken lightly at all, esp when we have already made one this season. changing Rafa would mean we would have our 3rd manager of the season *smh*. you can be sure that the already anti chelsea media will make the worst of it and start to say things about the fall of the Roman empire which i absolutely despise. However after that indefensible result last night, things may actually be worse than they appear on the surface and this is why i think we might have to look elsewhere for the remaining 14 premier league games. For the first time, i'm starting to see the possibility of missing out on the top 3, which for me is simply unacceptable this season. Lets call a spade what it is, our squad, despite its depth issues that we keep raving is good enough to battle for 2nd place at least this season. Anything less is completely unacceptable. I wonder what peps like Ken/Jollyheart & latunvic think, but i have lost the will...There is a big dent in my living room wall from when that 2nd goal went in last night and i blame Rafa for it lol...
JohnnyOz
@Johnny..lol...really m very indifferent with regards to whether rafa is sacked or allowed to go in the summer....although i dont give a s.hit about the press so long as we achieve our critical objective of a top 3 finish..sack rafa or not, they dont like us..i mean the press...at this stage 'll adive we do what is best for the club..and if its sacking the FSW....so be it...but of the club feels we can endure him till the end of the season without missing out on top4...then he can continue his waiting business till then...cos he is definitely not coaching, i cant see any evidence of that...he is simply waiting (working as a waiter) hence the fat spanish waiter tag...loool
layorh12
Chelsea have 2 strikers in top form the only problem is one of them can't get a starting position and the other one is playing for WBA! Chelsea have a legendary leader of men who needs game time. The sort of player you would bring on to shore up a defense when they are under pressure in the last 10 minutes of a match, but no we bring on Bennayoun and Ba (in injury time??), when Ba should have come on with 20 minutes to go and JT should have come on, at the very latest, the second Reading scored their 1st goal. Woeful management.
CobhamBlue
The only team he should be managing are the teleTubbies...Demba Ba on for FT9 in the 90th minute, when we had just conceded a goal in the 87th...honestly? unless Torres was injured, that, bar none, is the dumbest, most pointless substitution i have ever seen...and there's talk of Madrid replacing Mourinho with this RB for next season...really? he wont last a month at the Santiago Barnebeu..
JohnnyOz
@ohans,i feel your pain mate,this is definitely not the best of time for every chelsea fan but i believe we shall overcome this phase...i saw your questions above and want to try as much as i can to address some of them,firstly,bertrand startin in LW is a reflection of our lack of quality squad depth,lookin at that bench we had only one winger in marin who would not have done a better job,bertrand contributes to the defence and is crap attackwise but marin contributes none.the fact that rdm and now rafa dont rate him speak volume of his value...Ba has absolutely no business in this game,its a game we should win comfortably without Ba bearing in mind we are playin n/castle in d weekend,Ba should be kept fresh for that game...terry instead of ba could have been a better sub and then change formation to a 5-4-1,i was screamin shut the shop rafa!! But he did otherwise and it was ineffective,atleast jt would have help neutralised the ariael threat of the royals as the went for long balls in the closin stages...i also fault the subbin of mata but some folks here have been callin 4 his sub when we lead comfortably atleast we ve all seen how spectacularly such move can backfire..apart from that i agree with everythin team shame and balance but our profligacy in the game and defendin for that last goal was suicidal...
Ken4CFC
Who watched Essien last night ? U see how foolish we were to loan him out? After this ask urself will Lampard get into the starting line up for Madrid in el clasico? Food for thought!!!!!!!!!!!!
AMENS
@ohans,Typos**i meant"apart from that i agree with everything u said about team shape and balance"
Ken4CFC
@layorh,its really childish resortin to cheap jibes..if u want to have a debate come on least have it and not paintin ma name in all your comments to prove how wrong or right u are..mind u i never said rafa is above criticism so i dont know where get this your garbage impression
Ken4CFC
@johnny,i still have the will i believe we can make the top4(perhaps thats the fan in me speakin),i dont see sacking rafa is the solution,the problem is the deeper than just rafa..ok,what happens when we sack rafa and the blip continues?? We sack the next manager right??...and whats the assurance the next manager wont be sacked after few months??#foodforthought
Ken4CFC
@Ken...more like sarcasm really not cheap jibes..apologies if you see them that way...its just strange how you shape your views...and sadly you seem to be alone with that ''rafa is world class'' thinking of yours...you echoed my 5-4-1 analysis...so clearly you know your footy....but to say rafa is world class deserves a bit of sarcasm in my eyes...once again no harm intended...and sorry as far as rafa is concerned...I am not down for debates..theres nothing about it that is worth a noble debate....he's gone at the latest in the summer..thats if he lasts till then....
layorh12
i dunno Ken....snatching defeat from the jaws of victory like that yet again ( im going to call it defeat bcos it feels even worse that a defeat to me)...It is the cumulation of a number of ridiculous results that i think one or two simple subs could have prevented...easier to say this with hindsight, but its not the first time the fans are calling for certain subs during the game and Rafa never seems to think those subs necessary. I'm sorry but i cant stick my neck on the line for Tubbster any more. remember southampton at home and QPR at home as well? I am convinced he is a disaster waiting to happen, i have always said begone Rafa come May 19 5pm, but dude this is a mega shambles. European champions conceding two goals in 3 mins to drop points...What are the chances of that? have we even won 2 games in a row since he's taken over? Anyway the board will make a decision and i'll support it through & through.. Having said this Rafa is going to have one heck of a tough time if he doesnt win every single game from here on in...just a feeling. if he thinks he's had it tough with the fans so far, just wait and see...
JohnnyOz
and its alright if you ignore fans pleas for substitutions and the team go on to win the game.. When you continuously stick with your convictions like he does (like Azpi for an uninjured Branners, the other day) and he CONSTANTLY doesnt get the expected results, then you're setting yourself up for a lashing and a possible revolt, especially when you're aleady a major divisive figure in the club like he is...I wish him luck, but i dont envy his position - not in the slightest...
JohnnyOz
@layorh,no hard feelings mate...i have a few questions for u(ignore if u wish),did scolari's failure at cfc make him a bad coach?? Did avb's failure at cfc make him a poor coach?? Does mourinho's recent failings at madrid make him less a world class coach??...that rafa is not doing good so far does not make him a terrible coach overnight,i think his cv speaks more about him.a bad coach does not win 2laliga titles,1uefa cup,1CL,1FA cup,1CS,1italian supa cup,1CWC,2times uefa coach of the year,5times BMM..Whatelse do one need to prove he is a worldclass coach???,its ok if many of us dont want him here but to say he isnt a world class coach is not right...havin said that,i dont intend goin into this debate either.
Ken4CFC
@Johnny...your repentance rate is quite high....loool....you tots are really good I must say....let's see what the board does...but clearly rafa isn't the way forward..its clear as day light...its one of two things...if the board feels the team is good to finish top4 DESPITE rafa...m sure he'll be left alone until the summer to complete his interim regime...on the other hand, if Tubby's madness rate skyrockets (e.g. not playing Mikel whenever needed, making stupid subs at stupid times, sitting Oscar down to shatter the already shattered confidence ever futther e.t.c) and results suffer further, then they might deem it necessary to sack him anytime he becomes untamable!!!(pardon my english..lol)....whatever action the board takes (either sack him anytime soon or in the summer)...i am fully behind it so long as we finish top4...folks should not come on here and say sacking him is not the best route to take..'ll say if he continues to take us down...similar to inter and liverpool..he should be dismissed immediately before the malaise goes too far....Tubby is fecking cancerous...!..
layorh12
@ layorh dont knock me for getting off the "leave Rafa in place till May 19" boat chief lol...that was a devastating result last night and the team will have lost a lot of confidence too is my big worry...now i have to start saying only 1 trophy is still a possibility (when Rafa started there were 5)....Keep the faith regardless y'all - we're CFC
JohnnyOz
@Ken may be the best way to qualify rafa is that he once had the potential to be ''world class''...but more recent evidence from the latter part of his stay at anfield, the inter debacle and most recently (after an obviously forced 2year sabatical) his so far catastrophic stay with my club...proves he is on a steep downward spiral....very average over the past 6 years....avb..was terrible at chelsea (yes!)..i actually tot may be he is not soo good afterall...but he has earned my respect with wat he is doing at spurs of late...Its too early to talk about Mourinho (who in my eyes is the most tactically sound coach in the world at the moment)...bcos Jose can still finish the season on a high...i watched Madrid yesterday (even though barca were slightly better)...but I saw a Jose who had a clear understanding of how to stop barca....Tubby's last two seasons at anfield were shambolic, his stay at inter was disastrous and his stay soo far at chelsea is worse than epileptic....i say it again, he is on an almost irreversible downward spiral...and he should please go and look for another club to sink..not my chelsea...he cant even sink chelsea cos am sure roman still smokes weed...the big axe is still there....
layorh12
another mess snatching a draw from the jaws of victory how many points we dropped now we could of overhauled city by now easily im FURIOUS
herefordchelsea
@ohans u make me ***** in my pant, cant stop laughin,u took your town's team to wot? And y rate ur town with cfc?.rafa is nt dat best of a coach buh a norwich team with a less pedigree coach can organize themselves and win a 2 goals lead in stoppage time.i say but d back4 and rafa deserve a whip.just my opinion thou
nwobi ebuka
@Ken,there's no pointing crying over spilt milk. But one way to discover a problem is by rate of reoccurence. In so many games we've played this season under Rafa,we have started well and have ha, most times,good 1st half and brilliant early 2nd half performances. The reoccurrence of loosing grip on games as a problem for us has been largely in the periods when managers tweak them team and make subs. This is between 75-89 min. and we have always been at the backfoot after such tactical battles. I dont know for you,but for me,it signals our interim manager's inability to adapt to the opposing tactics or his inability to raise his games to heights the opponents cant adapt to. He has played Bertrand in most games at LW correct me if am wrong,we have not taken up good results from that move. Alot of people keep saying it and its true that you dont play a defender as a winger even when playing against sides that poses little or no attacking threats from that wing. And i dont agree that Marin can be worse of offensive from that position. That is his preferred position mind you and i 'l play him,Ba,or even Benayoun ahead of Bertrand any day.
Ohans
@johnny,i felt same way too(couldnt even take ma dinner after the game,next time i would eat before the games.lol)..i was equally screamin for jt to be brought but i saw ba (and i was like:what tha ferk is his? When the goal went in),we can all pick several reasons to blame rafa but we should also look at the players,check out their kamikaze approach to the game,we had several chances to kill off the game(even without rafa makin a sub) and the attrocious defendin for the last goal..the players sent out against southampton,qpr,swansea and now reading were good enough to beat these teams even without a coach,the players are just too relaxed cos they know the coach would always get the blame..everybody involved really have to take a good look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves: do i get this fat pay to come here and give 10% performances? This is chelsea ffs sake everybody have to give 100% from the management,coachin staff and players(and even the fans)...
Ken4CFC
I dont think the players can be told off/given the hairdryer treatment by Rafa - he has to manage them in a different way than he's used to because he's only interim boss so he cant lay his rule book down...Rafa doesnt have that man management skillset that a Guus Hiddink, for instance, has, esp for an interim position like this, where you have to be more of a friend than a "gaffer". The players do not have that fear factor hence the reason they're leaking late goals...If they had to go back to the dressing room to face an irate Jose Mourinho, i'm sure they'll all be switched on till the 99th minute...
JohnnyOz
@Jonnny^^^...that probably contributes a huge part of the problem....man management...definitely not one of rafa's strength whether as an interim coach or permanent coach...he simply does not have it...whoever suggested his appointment should also be queried for irrational thinking...lol
layorh12
@ohans,great break down,u really made a lot of sense but in my opinion i think our performance droppin in the 2nd half is general team fatigue,and most time when opposin managers change their tactics its difficult to pick out the personnels on our bench to counter it,thats why i thought we were gonna recall some of our loans or buy players but so far its only ba and many folks shut me up sayin rafa has a bad transfer record..tbh honest even with bertrand on the LW we could still have won the game yesterday comfortably had we taken our chances and our defence really has a share of the blame then ofcos the coach for his poor subs and tactics
Ken4CFC
@johnny,there u go again,a very good point,thats what av been hammerin on,if u want to blame rafa blame him for very good reason not just pick him up as a scapegoat for everything that goes wrong.yea man management,its another area where rafa is gets it wrong.he just have to be more of a friend than a gaffer..good point mate! good point
Ken4CFC
Rafa I repeat again will make us drop out top 4, the feeling is growing stronger by the day within me, rdm is better than him , if u call rdm's win of champions league and the FA cup a fluke under 3 months, then you will call all the cups rafa won an opportunistic win and a fluke too, la liga was so weak when he won the la liga titles I think derby county will get an european spot if they are in spain at that time, the 3-0 comeback in istanbul happens once in perhaps 10 years, cwc was due to mourinho's hardwork alone as the team were still playing his style and we beated rafa in the league cup, I can say his achievements is a fluke too, which sane fan would argue that ba is kept to be fresh for newcastle? So what was he benched for against brentford (he came on very late in that game) ? Ba played lesser games than torres, and why play bertie against reading? U lot argued that he played him to curb walcott against arsenal, now bertie who haven't mastered to play as a LB properly is being played upfront when he have no skill whatsoever to make any positive impact there, Now to mata, are u monks seriously hoping mata would be playing 90 minutes in all our games and we should be afraid to sub him off so the team won't collapse? Get serious guys, mata is already knackered right now and I can smell injury all around him already, rafa can't handle this team, it is time we support him with one or two players purchase in the transfer today or sack him, without this measures I am very sure about this that we won't make top 4 with him.
Desmondadonis
Rafa I repeat again will make us drop out top 4, the feeling is growing stronger by the day within me, rdm is better than him , if u call rdm's win of champions league and the FA cup a fluke under 3 months, then you will call all the cups rafa won an opportunistic win and a fluke too, la liga was so weak when he won the la liga titles I think derby county will get an european spot if they are in spain at that time, the 3-0 comeback in istanbul happens once in perhaps 10 years, cwc was due to mourinho's hardwork alone as the team were still playing his style and we beated rafa in the league cup, I can say his achievements is a fluke too, which sane fan would argue that ba is kept to be fresh for newcastle? So what was he benched for against brentford (he came on very late in that game) ? Ba played lesser games than torres, and why play bertie against reading? U lot argued that he played him to curb walcott against arsenal, now bertie who haven't mastered to play as a LB properly is being played upfront when he have no skill whatsoever to make any positive impact there, Now to mata, are u monks seriously hoping mata would be playing 90 minutes in all our games and we should be afraid to sub him off so the team won't collapse? Get serious guys, mata is already knackered right now and I can smell injury all around him already, rafa can't handle this team, it is time we support him with one or two players purchase in the transfer today or sack him, without this measures I am very sure about this that we won't make top 4 with him. # You heard it here
Desmondadonis
@Desmond...you got me laffing hard mate...you got me really laffing...dont waste your energy my buddy dont waste your energy!..you know personally I gave up rafa since...as for me...i keep refreshing all the transfer sites opened on my PC hoping for the miracle news..so far nothing yet...but i am still hoping against hope...
layorh12
@layorh, I have witnessed some heartaches as a chelsea fan, but this one is humiliating, it is true what ken pointed out about our players not doing enough, I agree they might lack character, that is not rafa's fault and we know he can't lace a boot and sub himself in for a player (shudders thinking of tubby playing), but we saw rafa's interview for the past one month talking that this team is tired, he is paid to observe, is he telling us he can't do such a simple task? As a coach who trains ur players everyday and get fitness reports from the medics, he should see iva was tired and brought in terry early, same with ba, there is no justification for bringing ba in on the 90th minute, none whatsoever, and bertie, why play bertie at all? Is he trying to stop the reading messi or what? Seriously if u can tell me what rafa have brought to this team tactically since he became our coach then I'll agree he is better than rdm and the sack of rdm is justified, I am disgusted at the decision makers because they are cfc custodians and should have done better for the club by choosing a good coach that Is way better than rdm, then to the moronic fans who wants to go protest and do anything stupid to rafa, they are clueless!! They should have prostested to the board or gourlay etc wherever they are, rafa didn't appoint himself, this dudes did and by God they either support him now with a signing or two that he will use or sack the addlepated muppet outrightly!!! Damnit to blazes!!!!
Desmondadonis
@Desmond...yesterday....we missed a couple of good chances if we wont lie which is not rafa's fault...but ultimately it was his fault that we did not grab the 3 points..because when he subbed torres for BA, the correct sub should have been Terry coming on...that single decision in my opinion cost us the 3 points...but there is no point crying over spilt milk...but @Desmond do you think there's a chance we'll make a signing?...i am not even even asking for two...just one CM....What do you think?..its when the window closes that i will try to assess things.....
layorh12
I think with the way of things we'll get atleast one, just to save ourselves some blushes, but cold reasoning is telling me as I have pointed out before that roman don't trust rafa a bit so he is not doing him any favours of signing any player he might have identified to the board, so it means the board are not seeing him beyond may, and they are hoping the afcon duo would lessen the burden of the team when they return, that is hypothesizing on my part which might be true or utter bullcrap!
Desmondadonis
hmmm....the prospect of not signing anyone...does not look good...even when the afcon guys come back...my greatest worry is that if we are going to sign anyone..there should have been some sort of rumour by now...but there's none...the only rumour that is authentic does not excite me and that is the visit of lazar Markovic couple of days ago to cobham...I am sure we are going to sign him..may be in the summer..young i think 18 and very similar to hazard...already in the serbian senior team....but then i want a plausible rumour about a CM for the first team now...!!..and nothing is happening!!!...scary stuff
layorh12
Lazar hmm? I was excited by him when he was first linked to us, but not now anymore, we have quality players in oscar,mata and hazard with moses, yet we struggle to win atimes, I think we need to address the issue of new players, tactics and the blimey formation once and for all to salvage anything from this season
Desmondadonis
@desmond i wish the board was listening to you....sometimes i struggle to understand them...although i do think we will sign that one maybe in the summer....meanwhile i am a lot more bothered bout the events that will happen over tha next 9 hours..maybe there will be nothing happening..that will be hard to take...lol...i do hope something happens though....
layorh12
I sure hope so too, I for one is not perturbed that we didn't sign, I can think of a few reasons not to, but loaning out piazon? Not recalling KDB and essien at all cost is really disheartening, the only money we would have spent was giving werder bremen a couple quids for breaching our agreement with them pertaining to kdb's loan, those 3 players would give us ample cover along with the afcon duo and it will seal a top 4 for us tactical nous or not!! I am really having a dose of gabeu's dark clouds looming premonitions right about now. It is usually so late for others to see what is so obvious, smh*
Desmondadonis
Going through the news online I stumbled on this article and redknapp has this to say........ hereisthecity.com/2013/01/31/redknapp-chelsea-sacking-di-matteo-was-a-massive-mistake/ ... Maybe redknapp is having unreasonable chants too eigh?
Desmondadonis
@Desmond...**smh makes three of us in the agama moves (myself, you and @Mq)....lol.....i hope our head shaking ala agama...brings some posittive news in whatever form ..a loan recall, an outright purchase or even a sack...loooooool**just kidding....hmm...did you watch Essien yesterday//...i think he has got some game time and is now looking very fit and decent...i wonder if he still has a future here..he has a contract till 2015. apprarently...
layorh12
@layorh,We can still recall him today, can't we, atleast he'll do a decent job being a starter in some games or squad player
Desmondadonis
@desmond, you've said it all. I do think we need a specific kind of midfielder that we give us the ball retention and space creating ability that only Mata possesses presently. It might necessary be an attacking midfield,maybe a deeper positioned player that can dangle around with the ball and pick out passes. Not clear about a player that fits that bill,but i reckon Luca or similar player will do. The manner with which our game collapse in Mata's absence bemuse and i think Rafa or not,we should make a deal to solve that problem while we still can.
Ohans
@Desmond there has to be some sort of news before today ends..if not, i have reasons to be worried especially with tubby in charge...although i honestly think a player like Essien might be very relunctant to leave real madrid now to come back to chelesa...el classcico, champions league game against manure, and a coach that truly believes in him....compare that to coming back here, being alienated by Tubby and a dull europa league game against Prague, to be honest If I were him, I will refuse to come back till the summer....things are not exactly interesting at chelsea at the moment..and ts common knowledge.
layorh12
@ohans, I agree 100% on that, I am just suprised the football heads are not seeing all this
Desmondadonis
Too many typos in my last post,*might not, bemuse me *
Ohans
@Ohans and @Desmond...I actually think with regards to this transfer window, things got a bit more complex once RDM was sacked and Tubby appointed...which means whatever plans they had for this window had to be cancelled bcos there's a new coach at the helms...unfortunately the board does not appear to trust the judgement of the coach (the results also dint instil any confidence in the board as regards the abilities of the coach) which has made things a lot more polarized...we just have to painfully wait and see....its not very likely anything will happen though..**sigh sigh....
layorh12
@layorh that is true, but there is nothing the bison can do about it if his parent club ask him to report to london, all cfc have to do is convince real to release their player back, and if real gives us the permission there is nothing essien can do about it I think
Desmondadonis
@Desmond you are right....but do you see chelsea doing that i mean recalling Essien??...if you remember during the last transfer window at this time we already had an idea Essien was gointa be loaned to Arsenal, only for him to move to madrid at the last minute...for whatever reason everything is just damn quiet this time around....scary stuff...!!!...now i am begining to seriously loose hope oo...regarding any further chelsea transfer in this window...Butland has even joined Stoke..so its not likely anything happens....
layorh12
Well i have finally managed to pick my tongue of the floor after the debacle yesterday..i am still having dizzy spells as if i am in the twilight zone so i can even think coherently..i am not even sure what we need to do but i am certain we need to do something because this thing is headed in a wrong direction very quickly..i dread what may happen at St James Park this saturday against a resurging NewCastle also fighting to get out of the relegation area. As for the transfer window it does not appear like we are doing anything which may be the final kiss of death for this accursed season...oh well there was May 19 2012...
GabeU
@GabeU....very funny...looool.....this is difficult to take men...with tubby in charge, i am even less confident to be honest.
layorh12
Piece of good news Hazard wont be doing more than the 3 match bann....best news of today i guess...source:Sky sports
layorh12
:) @ Gabeu - Didiers 87th minute equalising header at the Allianz Arena...and subsequent 5th penalty...I too need those memories right now
JohnnyOz
When other clubs like psg spend crazy money, people say nothing but when Chelsea FC do it everybody shout ffp. It just shows how much we are hated.
TafChels
Benitez is ruining Demba Ba's confidence, he has put him on from the bench with less than 10 minutes remaining for about 5 games now. He needs to start him for a few games in a row now. He is also ruining his goals per game ratio :S
Drog of War
folks abandoned vital chelsea on transfer deadline.....these are really strange days....obviously a paradigm shift at the club...hmm....m still surprised!!!!.....
layorh12
Two words utter embarrassment. We blow a 2-0 lead against relegation fodder normally defence is a position where we are strong but against Reading our backline was a complete joke. Seriously our squad lacks depth.
Elbowz
How comes all chelsea midfielders in the pivot are crap? It is high time we solve this problem once for good, running around in rings wont help chelsea Fc it is time to let go some of our heroes they cannot fit in the new system.
derfmesh
There is a time bomb that is awaiting to expload
Kendemsblue
Just points lost
Kendemsblue
 

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