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Mourinho`s Coming Home?

It screams out at you from the back page of the leading red-top publication this country produces.

Seemingly, The Sun is convinced that Jose Mourinho is desperate to return to Stamford Bridge to put it, as The Sun puts it, to save Chelsea!

It`s becoming acknowledged, by many, that Jose Mourinho`s time at the Bernabou is approaching an end. Another defeat, at the weekend, has left Real Madrid floundering behind Barcelona and with, virtually, no chance of landing the title.

Although Mourinho left Chelsea in a rather acrimonious fashion, his relationship with Roman Abramovich remains good. We understand the two are regularly in communication and all that is required to see Mourinho make that dream return, is, so the tabloid puts it, a call from Roman for Jose to return, as Jose puts it, home!




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The Journalist

Writer: Merlin Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday February 4 2013

Time: 7:38AM

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shlok27
Like i said in many previous posts I love Jose. I love him for all he done for chelsea. BUT i dont want him anywhere near chelsea this time around. RM is one of the cleanest image clubs in the entire world. But 75% of their fans now think that JOSE destroyed their image with new fans and children's etc. Its almost in all the newspapers poll's. JOSE is not worth the PAIN the club need to suffer to win some trophies. In 04 chelsea is a unknown so we need to win at all costs. But we are a genuine BIG club that doesnt need his antics at all. My bet is PSG. They are the ones who need to win trophies now. All these fans who thinks that RA will just appoint JM is deluded. RA tried hard for the past 6 years to move from the FUNCTIONAL team that JM and CR builded. Now with our team is just shy of 3 quality players away from becoming a great entertaining and winning team. RA will be mad to destroy all the hard work of the past 6 years. Not giving FL the contract is more to do with getting RID of the one dimensional functional play more than the ability of FL. FL is still very good player but he cant play the type of football CFC is trying to install. All clamoring for JM return should just look at the mess he created in RM. His obsession with the opposition and his image destroying of anybody is not needed at CFC anymore. His obsession to break up the friendship between barca and RM players to install US vs WORLD mentality has backfired spectacularly. CFC dont have that type of playres anymore. Now what we have is superior talented players who need a helping and loving hand coach some one like a UNCLE for them to guide them. Moyes, Martinez, Diego,Klopp etc. Not some one who will go to WAR with each and everybody and turn every soul in the entire continent against you except for cfc fans.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
As a season ticket holder,i for one hope we don't touch him with a barge pole.When he arrived the football was great and we were experiencing something new and exciting with world class players all over the pitch.Cech,Terry,Carvalho,Lampard,Essien,Robben, Duff,Crespo,Drogba were all in their prime and would have got into any team in the world.It was wonderful for a few years but then slowly by slowly like at Madrid Jose dug a hole deeper and deeper for himself.He kept bringing the club into disrepute and in the end even the football was very poor and the board had to get rid of him for the sake of the club.The attacking football served up by Carlo's teams was even better and we won our first double. With the FFP rules in force we won't be able to keep spending like we've done in the past but with exciting young players like Hazard, Oscar,Mata we'll have a good future but no way will we have so many world class players at the club at the same time together,as when Jose was in charge. It's time for something new in the summer and for one hope it's not Jose.
THEBREEZE
Think people are looking into this in a weird way. The way Jose manages and the beliefs he installs is what CFC is! We are the lost hated club in England and always will be. The ones who are no ones second favourite club the ones everyone is wanting to beat and be ones it is always us v uefa and FIFA! And we have been missing that leader at the forefront who optimises that more than any manager out there. We need a manager who is bigger than the players. One the players know is the best and don't take no prisoners. Jose mourinho is a born leader and winner and CFC has never been the same since he left. The squads have got worse and lost its identity while trying to buy fancy tiny little players trying to play like poxy barca! WE ARE NOT BARCA!!! We are Chelsea fc! We are made for Jose as he has the same cocky arrogant swagger that you inf everyday walking down the kings road! We are big time Charlie's and we need a big time Charlie in charge! BRING BACK THE SPECIAL ONE!!!
Dave-David
Mourinho?? Is he the messiah?? Only time will tell....especially when the usually blip occur,the same fans who want him would call for his head
Ken4CFC
I doubt there's any truth to this Merlin,its the Sun trying to mess with fans emotions. They know its what majority of the Chelsea fan base want,so they are having go at us,laughing as we jump in excitement of the prospect of Jose returning.
nelyvanile
Why do so many ppl call us Mourinho's "home"?? Inter is his home, he's worshiped by all and sundry there. Not all of us "worship" him at Cobham, hell I'd bet probably 30% wouldn't want him coming (Would've said 40-50% but given how we playing now and the evident despise of 1 Rafa Benitez, it's fair to say that survey would be skewed)
@Mq
BRINGHOMEJOSE! Stamford Bridge will explode! JOSE PLEASE COME HOME! It will be the very best for Chelsea FC.........i think this could happen really!
austriablue
He is coming to Bridge. It will be a sight to see the face of all the Jose haters or say who are hoping he does not join us. It was a delight when Pep did not join us. 2nd treat would be when Tubby gets the chop. Jose coming back would be icing on the cake.
Keyser Soze
i cant beleive some people wouldnt take jose back, I would take him back in a heartbeat, i completly agree with Dave-David,under mourinho we looked invincable.every team we were up against we went into them games with beleif, we havnt been the same since he left, people always say the football was poor and we wernt good to watch, I myself would rather win above anything else.look at our famous cl win last year!!!sexy football was it? was it hell we parked the bus!!!...would any of you lot rather play tici tac football last year or be the first london team to win it? He does instill a us v them mentality but thats his way, i personally like it :)WE ARE CHELSEA SUPER CHELSEA NO ONE LIKES US WE DONT CARE!!!!
belfastblue1
How would Jose win with small players like Mata, Hazard and Oscar? Can they park the bus? I don't see how Mourinho would be successful this time round. At City maybe because of their size.
foreign_viewer
i never said mourinho parked the bus,we did last year in the champions league, he is a clever man, he would adapt
belfastblue1
I basically disagree with some of the comments above...We were never liked,and never will be liked. Its that simple,we've had nice guys like Carlo and Robbie play the nice guy card,but as soon as things went sour they got attacked by the media relentlessly till they got sacked and Roman was the 'Bad Guy'...we've always been the spoilt plastic fans, according to the media since Roman took over,and I don't see that changing. I wonder if people ever really watched Chelsea intensely under Jose,the ideology that we played rigid,crappy football all through his reign as manager is totally flawed. I watched Jose's Porto team in the UEFA Cup and UCL,they played some exciting counter attacking football,with some fluid passing football. I watched Jose Mourinho's team in his first season at CFC where we played some brilliant attacking football in a 4-3-3 formation with Duff,Robben,J.Cole e.t.c roaming the wings with pace. We started playing to Didier strength more in his 2nd season and begin to play some more rigid football which obviously lead to the criticism of 'boring football' by the media. Jose's team also played some good football last season under Real Madrid so the idea that he'll only ridicule our current crop of talent is crap.
nelyvanile
This crop of players don't need to learn how to play football,they are a talented bunch,what they need is direction and growth in mentality. Yes that's what Jose can provide...Di Maria is still a silky player,Ozil is still as creative as Mata,Ronaldo is still a stroke of genius if not better,Xabi still has an eye for a pass,Sergio and Pepe are more solid tham ever,but one thing that has changed is their growth in mentality and hunger to win.
nelyvanile
as much as i want this to happen and end the bad dream that Rafa has become, we should not put to much hope in this happening. Guardiola was hook line sinker a chelsea coach in summer, infact we were only buying players on his recommendation........ we all know how it ended. Mou looks like a perfect fit for us but we should err on the side of caution and not raise our hopes to high.
Dwonder
Nelyvanile has said it all, nice one mate. But just to add to that, which other manager do you Mourinho hating lot think is better than him and most importantly would be available in the summer? Isnt The publicity of CFC worse of now? I think people on this site jst like to talk s.hit all the bloody time, i even doubt if they are true fans. With Mourinho, even when we draw or lose a game, be rest assured we would bounce back big time in the next. Mou has been the coach to bring Madrid to within touching distance of the invincible Barcelona in the last 5yrs.
Tugay08
belfastblue1 & Dave - David, I completely agree. I'm nearly 30, so obviously don't remember the 70's as I wasn't around, but speaking to the older generation, you really get a history as to what people thought of us. Kings road swagger, cockiness, happening place about London town, we 'ate em,' they said beck then. I don't know ow old fans are ere (gota get the London twang) but it's about time we knew our history. Controversy? Yeah JM caused dome, but the papers have never really liked us. Yes, we're a global brand and have an obligation to be professional to our sponsors, but then again, with the money they plough into us, they expect a little bit more than that I suspect, a big, winning brand, something we aint right now. So sort it out, have a cold wash on the old mooie, and tell yourself, we need Jose. It's all gone a bit Pete Tong since he left. The team he built had spirit, it had ingrained within it a winning mentality. We've got class players, but they need some Jose treatment. Truth is, it all went wrong under Carlo. Yeah, we won the double, but I stick by what I said before, it was the worse possiblre thing that could of happened to us. We should have moved on from the team that lost Champions league football to Jose's Inter, we were a spent force and winning the double deluded us into thiking they were world beaters. Looking back, I'd say it was a brilliant, but very definitely, final flourish. Carlo was too relaxed, the winning mentality was washed away. The shooting of a kid with an air rifle and all the other things that went on under his reign proved there was a lack of discipline. Something I don't think we've ever re-gained, as AVB found out. There was a reason we kept winning, no matter the manager (apart from big Phil), there's a reason Mourinho's boys were the main stay in countless managers teams, wasn't just quality, becasue as someone said, we have superior technical players now, but it was a gutsy, never say die attitude to the teams cause. If we don't get Jose, it'll be hard to say where we'll end up. Time to balance the beauty with the beast, and Jose is one beast of a manager! Ave it!!
aslaram
Why are all talking about parking the bus???? Is real always parking the bus - NO! Get the ***** right and bring him home!
austriablue
I cannot believe that people are saying they don't want Jose, mostly it seems because of the potential damage to our "image". People don't realize that our image has never been defended by the Board or managers and that is the main failing. When Mour was here he at least stood up for the club and players but now it is "let the press and other bitter fans and ex-players from the bin dippers and Gooners say anything they like about us" Mour would never let them get away with it. He also happens to be the best manager in the world by trophies and results. The only drawback for me would be his degree in psychology which may or may not be useful but I often wonder if his replies and press tactics aren't a little too "studied" and calculated - in other words he is not being that honest but calculating. But whatever - he is the greatest manager we have ever had and hopefully will be so again. Can't wait for him to start winding up Wenger again. We'll see.
OldShedBoy
Jose will be off to PSG or god help us to Man City - how would the British gutter press know whats going on - made up stories
Dixons-Betting-Slip
if u read my point i never said we parked the bus under jose,we did last year to win the CL no one can deny that,as nelyvanile said we played counter attacking football under him,i dont think the squad of players matter under mourinho, he always plays to the squads strenghs
belfastblue1
D'you know what, stuff this blooming bus, I'm gona go and pick him up myself, and park him and the blooming bus I use infront of the opposing goal if it means we win.
aslaram
And I don't care about "image" either - the bin dippers and Gooners (the 2 teams who have been ousted from their former glory by CFC's dominance over the last 8 years or so) will ALWAYS be bitter against us (Man.Utd and Citeh don't need to because they are good teams). So will certain sections of the Press. But what is music to my ears is when we win trophies and keep burying their bitterness in them. As Conan the Barbarian said when questioned as to what is best in football - "kill your enemies, see then driven before you and hear the lamentations of their fans!" (He said "women" and "life" but poetic license is allowed here of course.) You cannot reason with other fans and the press' bitterness - you just WIN! Shuts them up wonderfully. Jose is a winner! Nuff said!
OldShedBoy
Mourinho coined the phrase "parking the bus" in relation to Spurs doing it at Stamford Bridge years ago. It does not apply to Chelsea apart from 3 games last year which is the only time I can ever remember the team doing so over all the years. Chelsea don't park the bus - it is other teams that do that when they play us, either on their ground or at the Bridge.
OldShedBoy
Of course this could also be the Sun creating a story out of nothing. I posted on another thread yesterday the idea that is has to be Jose coming back to the Bridge - who else could it be? But shlok27 quite rightly suggests Zola, Laudrup or Poyet as alternatives which I think is a good call. I just hope that there is something concrete behind it all and the club aren't now run by namby pamby PR men who are worried about our "image" in hiring Jose -which they haven't defended at all. Jose will be brilliant for our image - we'll be in the press every day. Imagine those shirt sales and new fans Chelsea Board? Who cares what the press say - they're all liars and rumour mongers anyway! And who cares what other fans think about us either? Bring Jose home!
OldShedBoy
Of course we want Jose back - all you synics - what would you prefer that he go to City and make them even stronger? Jose is the best manager we have ever had and he has unfinished business. He would love to build another championship winning team and win the champions league again with us. He wont put up with Torres and other players underperforming. He will also use players in the correct positions and make subsitutions when they need to be made not wait until 10 minuted from the end of the game then replace a defender with a defender! #RafaOut #TorresOut #Comebackjose
funkyav
Recall " Boring Boring Chelsea" anyone??
@Mq
For starters, we won't have excitement, something Roman (and me) craves very much. Secondly, instead of averting some crisis' we'd be rushing head on into them with Jose in charge. 3rdly, we'll be left in 3 years time when he starts to "lose it" as he always does in his 3rd year at a top club (first us, now Madrid)
@Mq
mou is a top class coach bt i think it will be a bad idea if hes appointed as our manager next season.we av youung and interesting talent coming.we need a manager who will have patient for them to develop properly.jose will nt av time for the young chap.ow many youngsters av mou graduated and develop into a world class player..he works with the cheque book nd with the ffp rule on our door step the board needs to take a very wise decision here.with all due respect hes a gr8 manager and he remains my best coach ever
endyblue
You can clamor for Mourinho because we don't have alternatives right now but mark my words, 2 years later you'll be crying for another Manager.
@Mq
The man got Valdano fired for what, 1 League Cup and 1 Copa Del Rey?? So much for giving him control, he's done very little to justify it @ Madrid, if anything he's actually leaving the club in disrepute and you want some1 like that to be given control @ your beloved Chelsea?? That's like giving your only child/daughter hand in marriage to a known abusing playboy. *smh
@Mq
We've got the quality young players just need the manager to turn them into winners and that's jose no doubt
Chelsea ken
MQ - To be honest I cant ever see Roman sticking with a coach for longer than 3 years anway so I dont think that is a valid argument. As for attractive football, Inter and Real have both played some great stuff in recent seasons and I remember the team that jose built at CFC was immense. It was a media misconception that we were boring because we were winning every week. That team with Robben and Duff marauding down the wings was awesome. Also please answer me this (as i put earlier) would you rather Jose went to City and made them stronger? We need to overhaul the manchester clubs not let them move further away from us.
funkyav
Funny for people to think JM is the messiah. With the squad he have at REAL everyone would expect him to be very close to BARCA but they are 16points behind that show is not a magician as everyone are thinking.. imagine if he was in charge of our team and we are 16 points behind, I think every1 on this site would have SPECIAL names for him. What is important for building a successful team is a good working atmosphere. These are the main reasons CFC and REAL MADRID are in their current state. If that doesn't improve JM won't be able to perform any magic here.
jollyheart Torres
If we got a Manager like Klopp or the Shaktar Manager (who can build young, good football and difficult to beat sides) then I couldn't care-less where Mourinho went to FUNKYAV because I don't like his football period. Madrid are experts in counter attack, play them against a team that sits deep and they struggle (as they did this weekend) so he has no plan B. As for Inter, you the first person I've heard who's said they played good football (apart from Inter fans) and 16% ball possession+1 shot at goal vs Barca in the 2nd leg is hardly "good football" even RDM's football was better than that
@Mq
If Jose comes back at least he would put down new foundations for the next 10 years, regardless of how long he stayed for. Leaving it to that imbercile Emenalo is pure folly. When Jose was in charge I was made proud to be Chelsea, now I`m embarrassed, not only about results, but mainly how poorly our club is being run from the top. Jose is the ONLY person who can instill professionalism right the way throughout the club. Miss this opportunity and in 3 years time we will simply be a top 6 side.
Blueheart9
why is he failing to do the same @ Madrid BLUEHEART??
@Mq
FANS who are talking about "how we will always be the bad boy of football" "UEFA and FA hate us so what. We dont care about the media image etc. All these comments are childish and they are living in the stone age. IMAGE is everything in this cut throat modern world. It may not be important for cfc fans but its much more important to RA and cfc board than JM and his dire football. Creating a myth image is what is all about. BARCA is one of the worst cheating team in the HISTORY. Yes they are great team but i have never seen a great team that cheats as much as barca. The dives for penalties, play acting to get opposition sent off etc is worse than most of the big clubs. YET you cant see a peep in papers about them. WHY? its bcz of their image. All these talk about i dont care about the image is pathetic. IMAGE is paramount important for the club to improve commercially football wise. Even in the football field the refrees will give more decisions to BARCA than RM in la liga. Do you know why? Its bcz of JM and his devastating negativity that surrounds RM. The way officials brandishing yellow and red cards for RM players and compare it to barca players then you can clearly see it. With out image the no club will survive. It will die slowly. RA could do one thing he could by all the papers from Murdoch and write evil about barca and UTD etc and good about CFC. But RA cant buy all the media. Can he. So he is going about other way by serving great entertaining football and winning trophies with out controversy etc. Now you guys all want JM the king of controversy. JM will simply die if there is no controversy at all with him and his club. He will simply DIE with out controversy. We can appoint JM in the summer bcz of there is no available canditates. But mark my words its not going to be pretty. JM cant match that 7 trophies in 3 years again. We are not the only one who can throw the money around now. JM will come and win the fa cup in the first season then what? 60% of the fans will talk about how he is declined as a manager its not the same like 04. JM is not the answer. JM was sacked for a reason.Controversy is what JM is all about. JM cant change. Chelsea changed too much in these past 6 years. So all in all it is going to be a disaster. I will take DAVID MOYES over JM now just bcz unlike JM moyes can build on the club with out any controversy.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@Mq, you dont like "winning football" ? JM without doubt was one of Chelsea's most successful managers . I want to see Chelsea ..winning...I dont know about you. Fancy football or no fancy football...winning is the name of the game.. I want Chelsea to be feared again! end of
Blue_Mel
This would really make my week Jose coming back I would like this to be true.
Elbowz
Laughable comment by BAWA...Really laughable. So we had no controversy under Carlo? We had no controversy under AVB? We had no controversy under RDM? The media will pinch on whatever they can to get at us,attractive football or not. One minute ure the darling and the moment you slump they attack you like bees on honey. We had our worst PR this season with so many off the ball incidents happening week after week,the lack of discipline within the club...So who was manager? Jose? Manchester United are the darlings of the media in the british press,regardless of what they do,they always get the soft treatment,isn't it obvious Ashley Young dives,Hazard gets clean penalties and is labeled a diver by the Media...you need a strong head to take the pressure of this lads. If ur reason for not wanting Jose is controversy then that's utter bull*****....
nelyvanile
Yes Agreed! Jose is no Magician either. Like I say always,the board and the Club are not functioning and thinking right,so very few managers can thrive under our current decision makers. Only a manager that thrives under pressure can work under this bunch of clowns at the top. Well if u feel Jose can't thrive under pressure ure obviously emmmm...what's that word?
nelyvanile
@nelyvanile Are you for REAL mate? Are you kidding me. Having controversy is different from creating controversy like JM do wherever he goes. The guy is a controversy machine. Controversy king. He will come to chelsea and tell the whole world in his first conference that RA has personally asked him to come back. He just tells the world that RA BEGGED JM to take the CFC JOB. RA sacked JM bcz he acted like he is bigger than CFC.JM will never change. You can laugh all you want about my comment but that doesnt mean its false. JM creates controversy. All the things you mentioned above is not created by the coaches. We may have poor PR now but it wont stay like this forever. Appointing JM is just like telling the FUTURE fans and sponsors we may win some trophies but your company name also get trashed by our beloved coach JM. So come and invest in CFC. IMAGE may not be important to you or me or any fan. BUT its important to RA and CFC. With out good and great image the club cant make much money in the future bcz finding sponsors will be hard finding new fans who will spend money with cfc will be hard. Finally all this JM is the messiah of CFC is just a myth. Even the 2004 team is builded 70% by CR. He is the one who bought FL gave prominence to JT signed makelele signed cech etc. Just look at RM now he is doing the EXACT same thing he did in his final full season in CFC. Destroy the team morale fight with every superior in your club. Finally the club will SACK you as a damage limitation. Get your big severance pay and move on. All these news paper noise is created by JM people bcz he fully know that his stock is falling so low at RM now that he need to attract suites. What is the best way? Talk about his glorious past in cfc and inter just dont mention the mess at RM.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
English press is melodramatic. They are asking for JM to return to CFC bcz they dont have anything to write now. But the moment he walks into cobham they will change their tune 100%.Each and every match they will write about how great JM of 04 is how pathetic the current cfc team and JM is. So what JM could do. He will do what he do best. Deflect the blame on to RA and the board and players. If he wins anything at all then its all down to JM and JM only. If you ask me simply JM is not the answer for chelsea.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@nelyvanile you are agreeing that our clubs structure is not good so you want us to appoint JM. BUT what i am saying is change the structure to sustain itself well with any manager. Build the foundation with a good manager who will build the club. CFC's problems is not just manager it runs so deep. My only hope is that RA will step in and take the bold decision he took like appointing AVB. Even though AVB affair ended in disaster everybody could see the vision behind the appointment. With the way AVB is doing with much less resources at spuds we could only hope that RA and the club will build it once again from the bottom to top. We may experience success in short term cycles but we wont get into the class of barca or utd with this short term mentality.From the fans to owner we need to change as a club. I will be the happiest cfc fan in the entire world id the club appoints a very good young manager and a great DOF like hiddink with both of them willing to work and build the club from the bottom. Build a structure that only need a small modifications like barca but the success will last.Everybody is talking PEP PEP PEP but after he is gone TITO is doing even better than pep now he is in newyork bcz of his cancer treatment still barca is not crumbling? They are still going strong.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@Blue_Mel i dont think lot of fans like myself saying JM is a bad manager. JM is a very good manager but that doesnt mean we need to appoint him. Even greatest manager could fail if the timing and the club is not right. Whether JM is the right appointment for chelsea of 2013. We are not talking about JM at 2004 chelsea. JM was a great appointment for cfc in 04. But will it be a case now?
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Jose (and Roman's money) created Chelsea's current image. We wouldn't have all those Jap fans if it hadn't been for Jose. But Roman wants on the field success. Now I remember as a boy FEARING Leed Utd. when they came to the Bridge - they were the best, most daunting team of that period. I want other fans to think that way about us when we go and play them. Now other teams think they can park the bus, get a breakaway goal and see what happens. I don't like it. i want Jopse back who will put a stop to all that nonsense. But probably Laudrup at Swansea will get the job in the end because the Board are trying to preserve some sort of image which we don't even have anyway as we are targeted by the press no matter what we do.
OldShedBoy
Is Mourinho still on good terms with Abramovich? I though the bad relationship was why he left Chelsea. Anyway, I think Chelsea and JM makes a good match, I have fond memories of him during his time here. Kind of ironic but I missed the taunts and complaints from friends whenever JM speaks. Mourinho sure has a way with opposition fans and the press :)
KingHan
Mourinho's not the best Manager out there now, there's manager's like Klopp (who "topped" Madrid in their group) the Shaktar Manager, even Pellegrini is a fair shout given how he has built up 2 teams (Villareal & Malaga) while not spending obscene monies. Mourinho wants to spend, and spend big. Madrid (under Mourinho's instruction as Valdano was sacked to appease Jose) spent 31Mil for Modric and they playing worse than they were last season. They bought a talented young player (Sahin) who has been loaned from pillar to post (now back @ his "home") tried to kill Benzema's career by trying to sign Adebayor (only for Perez to refuse)....they currently have 2 world class players for every position (more "experienced" depth than Barca) yet they trail them by 16 points. And you have the audacity to speak like Mourinho is the only Manager that can bring us success...Ha *smh
@Mq
Blueheart9.....which foundation you are talking about..jose is destroying foundation aftr one another....first inter milan and now real madrid....he is not the long time solution...he is short time solution and we dont want short time solution now....he will come spend big and will have problem with roman and will go....he has too big ego to stay at one place..
shlok27
@mq agree wit you....he is good manager but we dont want him now...
shlok27
Going through all the comments I see a clearly divided side, but let me tell u guys what u don't know, mou in some logic is the best coach currently in the world!! Why? He have proven himself to be successful everywhere he goes, which shows he is a born winner and his very tactically sound, hiddink as much as we love him flops mostly and does well to exceed expectations in another time, but the magic with mou is that he will win, either u demand it from him or not and u can't ever say a team will beat mou's team, with mou u'll never see ur team decline, in the season we parted ways with mou he drew in our first game against rosenburg and drew a league game, so chelsea were not declining when he left, when you look at what he achieved under porto when he was allowed to do things the way he wants, u saw the results, inter allowed him to do what he wanted too and u saw the result, why does mou have problems in clubs that interferes with his football philosophy and excels to perfection with the ones that don't interfere? Why does he excel in teams to a point in 4 different leagues higher than any other manager? Mou is a coach that we need now, to make us giants again and we can let him go when he has fixed this leaky boat of ours and we can go with a more experienced laudrup or poyet after his spell where they would have more experience by that time, the only flaw I see with mou is that u can't count 6 players he graduated from his teams academy throughout his career as a coach till date, that is his only flaw and if he remedies that, he would be a coach other coaches would be chasing including mr pep. Pep chose an easy way out and chose a talented bayern side, I'll really love it if mou and pep meet in next season's UCL with bayern and chelsea, it would be epic, sadly we have to make top 4 this season first
Desmondadonis
How did he spoil the foundation of inter shlok? how much did u think he spent on transfers at inter? How much did he spend in his first season and second season in chelsea? How much did he spend while at porto? Common guys, this guy's brilliance as at today in terms of club management is unequalled, he can only be toppled by pep if pep win a coupla cups with bayern which I am expecting him to show us next season that his feats with barca is not a fluke with mr messi being his cornerstone
Desmondadonis
@Desmondadonis You cant see JM's team in decline bcz he moves out just before the decline. Nobody is arguing whether JM is a good manager or not. JM may be the greatest manager currently in the world. But that doent mean he will succeed in chelsea of 2013. Yes success follows JM nobody is denying that. But so is the controversy and hundreds of pounds lavished on 2 players for each and every position. JM is a born winner but at what COST? JM's seconf half of the final full season and his fourth season is going for disaster in terms of league form. You can go and check it. CFC's is on course for 3rd title until december UTD is nowhere near us but we gave the title to them but the cup wins masked that. JM is not the coach we need now in my opinion. Youth and JM is non existent in his 10 year managerial history. Yet CFC has the great youth and young stars even better than barca. JM will completely destroy this current team. These players are not winners yet. But with a good young forward thinking manager who allows the players to make mistakes and grow they will be world beaters in 2 seasons. But if you make a high profile mistake under JM then you will be banished from the club(remember delhorno). Two set of players 1)invisible's 2)eternally peripheral players.(bridge) Even this fringe players play better than the invisible yet cant hold down the place. There is no need for JM to make us "GIANT". CFC is already a GIANT. We are already a top 5 club. What we need is create a foundation and club structure that will last with any manager.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@Desmondadonis JM was greatest manager at the time of 2008. But Barca didnt appointed him. WHY? Bcz they know even though JM is great he is not the answer for barca's pblm. So they took the bold decision and appointed Pep who will die for barca and the rest is history. That is what we need to do now. Take the risk and come out on top in another 2 years.After that enjoy success for a long long time to come. Else go for the short term success ie, JM who will come and spend another 100M win 2 or 3 trophies in 2 years and move on to another club.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
This is a really tough one.... I live by one rule: Never start to date an ex-girlfriend after you break up (whether one sided or mutual). There's always a reason WHY you broke up in the first place, and that reason often comes back to haunt people. Jose was like that great girlfriend. He came here and we had fun. Laughs, cheers, sadness and tears. When he left we wondered if we'd ever find someone like him again. As time has moved on we look bad and remember the good times and think "What if.....? What if we'd never broke up?". Well we should also remember the arguing with match officials / rival managers / internal board members. The Jose who was not just a genius on the field, but a spiteful man off it. Yes he had us playing disciplined football which I wish we had right now, but is that only because we DON'T have it right now? Would I throw in Carlo or RDMs 7/8 goal matches for one of Jose's 1-0 affairs? I really don't know. Sometimes you go so long between the ex-gf and waiting for the next true love that you forget about the bad times and wish for everything to be back like it was in the good old days. Grass is always greener?? This is a love affair that might be set to repeat itself, and right now I don't know how I feel about it. "Confused" might be best describing!
Bizarre_Blue
someone here suggests that jose would not be good for us...a man who has won leagues in 4 countries...the only human with ucl with more than one team...that same person decried a cfc legend's every mistake...but for a former scouser...he makes excuses. he loves pep...but hates mou...he even loved torres more than drogba (whom he labelled a diver while all of us were congratulating the man for winning us the ucl)...this person wants lampard out and decries his every contribution to the team...who is this person...I mean we all know but really...who is he?
Gian-Franco/Luca
@bawa u make ur claim pretty well, and I'll add boularouz to the bannished player and robert huth too, but that is ur opinion that JM spends millions of pounds on 2 players for each positions, it is not true my friend, I posted a link a coupla days ago about mourinho's buys and they are not that much, there are some players ranieri bought that we think it was mou, examples are robben and cech, we as club are in a downward spiral now and we need a coach who is mentally tough to steer us away from trouble and danger, after 3 years we can now turn our vacant seat to laudrup who will be more experienced at that time or klopp or any other good coach at that time, but right now, I see mou and only him or hiddink helping us out of this quicksand we find ourselves in, there are some really skewed arguement above that mou destroys technical players and I am glad nely quelled that fat lie, did mou destroy deco? Did mou destroy ozil and ronaldo? Di maria? Or benzema? Did he destroy sneidjer? How come his players are always nominated for uefa team and player of the year?
Desmondadonis
Incase you didn't know DESMOND Valdano was sacked so Mourinho can take over all football affairs @ Madrid and look where it's got them....so much for a "born winner"
@Mq
desmond....look at the mess after he left milan...milan had to start from the scratch after that...ya he won the league there but a big cost....the problem with jose is he doesnt look up at a club as a long term success...he just sees it in a short term success...and you want him here to repair our leaky boat and then what he will damage again and go...why waste 2 or 3 year to bring on poyet or zola...let them bring nxt season..it would be better for us to start fresh from next year...yaa it would take some time to build again but it would be great fo our future to come...
shlok27
mourinho would be great for us....zola would be better....hehehe...me love me all chelsea legends...alll da time.
Gian-Franco/Luca
I think you guys should go through this links and come back to debate mourinho www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/chelsea-transfers.html www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2012/02/26/2928862/crisis-at-chelsea-inter-imploding-but-jose-mourinhos m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1092383-the-toxic-legacy-of-jose-mourinho-at-chelsea-fc worldsoccer.about.com/od/leaguesandclubs/p/Jose-Mourinho.htm
Desmondadonis
@Desmondadonis Like you said we need a good and solid manager but what i am differing with you is we need to move on from JM this summer not in another 3 yrs. Its a vicious cycle mate. Lets say now we appoint JM now and he comes in and win 2 trophies in 2 years but he destroyed the confidence of kukaku,kdb,hazard,moses etc then what? The cycle will go on again. I will take MOYES over JM this summer. Tactically sound very good and respected in the football community. Can give the confidence for our young team the backbone they needed to grow up. Moyes could be a better bet than JM for chelsea this summer. You are telling me we are on a downward spiral yes i agree with it. I have said many many times on the forum I will be the happiest CFC fan in the whole world if CFC didnt win anything for the next 2 years but they build a great foundation with all these youngsters integrated. With their mistakes ironed out in the first 2 yrs they can become our own messi, ronaldo. Cristiano Ronaldo didnt became a great in 2 yrs. In his first 3 yrs his diving and erratic finishing and all was ironed out by SAF then only he became a great he is now. So When CFC is gong to have our own messi,ronaldo,raul etc? WHEN? We can go for JM like you said to stop the rot now we find ourself in but you cant get up until you fall down. When chelsea is halfway through something decent they are going back again to the past. This panic reaction of going to 04 must stop NOW. Not in another 3 yrs. I want us to take the risk and build the club forever. I want chelsea to be successful with any manager at the helm. I want everybody to say JM is successful with chelsea. Not Chelsea is successful bcz of JM.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Careful what you wish for...
@Mq
Cech's broken his finger!!!! HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CobhamBlue
Sorry MQ can't agree with you on this one - I have supported chelsea since 1970 (aged 10) and with the exception of the team at the time and when we had Gullit, Zola and Vialli we have never played better football then with Jose. He single handedly installed belief in the players, brought some organisation that was sorely needed and scared the likes of Man U and Arsenal to death! Bring him back for God's sake and save our team from endless tinkering, poor performances and bad results!
johnboyblue
@BAWA, mou was sucessful before he became our manager, I agree on ur other comment and I respect it, what I surmised is that you don't want a quick fix manager? If that is the case, neither do I, but the reason I advocated for mou is that his mentality can help us now, his last team served us well for almost a decade, tell me how many coach out there who will be able to handle all the problems and gabbage that follows being cfc's coach? How many managers are willing to come to chelsea now? Rodgers said when he was approached that chelsea would ruin his career, that he wants to build it and not ruin it, PEP the saviour of most people panicked when he was called up on the job and chose the easiest route back into the game by agreeing to be the coach of arguably the 2nd best team in europe right now, so how many coach would be brave enough to coach chelsea? Moyes won't even consider it, for a manager that have been with everton for more than 8 years, why should he leave and come to chelsea only to be sacked if result goes south in a year? Mou for me won't give a damn about this things, you can rely on him to get the job done, the only person I think that can brave it with what I av seen is laudrup, but roman needs to do all the convincing, but I don't think it would be enough, seeing the way he didn't hesistate to boot out AVB despite all his promises (which was justifiable)
Desmondadonis
I wont waste time on this argument...it is pointless..lets see who Roman appoints. I personally doubt Jose will return to Chelsea because i dont see Roman changing the way he does things and Jose will demand control that Roman will not give any manager. To those ingrates who can only abuse and denigrate the man all i can do is chuckle..lets see who Roman can convince to take the job and how well they do. This sense of entitlement that some fans here have when they mention managers like Klopp and Pellegrini..it as if they think all Roman needs to do is wave his money and these guys will come running like they have no principles or better places to be. One would think that the pep experience would have taught some people here some humility. Anyway i suspect Jose will end up with either City or PSG..when he has brought success to those franchises those who say the man is useless can then explain that in addition to all the other successes on his illustrious resume.
GabeU
As for BAWA - Sorry mate don't agree I would have the special one back in a heartbeat - as a very long-term Chelsea supporter I have seen the best and the worst come and go in charge of my beloved team and no-one come's anywhere near to matching Jose's belief, passion and expertise. In the 43 years I have been supporting chelsea (imo) no other manager comes close to the effect he had on our club during his all too brief reign!
johnboyblue
foreign_viewer, I'll tell you how Jose will succeed with Mata, Hazard & Oscar. He'll sell 2 of them, raise money and buy more suitable players. When all's going well watching Mata, Hazard & Oscar is a joy - Aston Villa at home. Unfortunately 95% of the teams we play aren't as crap as Aston Villa. We will need to be more like Man City and we will win the league again with Jose in charge. It may all go pear shaped after 3 years but it will be worth it.
CobhamBlue
@Desmondadonis That is what i am also saying mate. We need to change as a organization. From TOP to BOTTOM. From Owner to the Fans. When i say Moyes i dont just want to appoint him and expect miracles.What i am saying is lay the foundations strong. With a great football mind(ex hiddink) for all the matters related to football. Let 3 guys decide hiddink moyes and may be emenalo(he is not a dof but he proves to be a great scout.) Below them must be lot and lot of competent people with most of them have some link with CFC one way or other. Build the CLUB like a FAMILY. Build it with not just money like now. Build it with the people who want to see the club successful. With this way even if we are not successful in the bed in period like 2 to 5 yrs we could be GREAT for the next 25 yrs with the foundation. Changing the organization is more important for me at this summer than just the name of the coach. Too many politics too many people who are treating CFC as a just a JOB. We need people with emotional attachment. Show some dignity when taking tough decisions(RDM,carlo sacking). Encourage the past players and managers to speak to the press about GOOD things about CFC. Change the image step by step from the negative evil club to hardworking great friendly club.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
@johnboyblue Mate you are talking about again and again the effect JM has on CFC. I am not disputing JM is great but what i am saying is CFC should build a foundation for any good manager to be great. Not the other way around. You are saying CFC was great bcz of JM in 04 to 07.What i am saying is I want everybody to say JM is successful bcz of Chelsea. Like Barca With solid foundations any good manager should do great things with CFC.
BlueAndWhiteArmy
Jose or no Jose it won't matter until the club create a philosophy and have a long term plan. If Jose comes there will still be rough patches. The question is then does he get off-loaded or do we stick with him and the long term plan?
NBianco
GabeU, I agree the speculation is all rather pointless but surely Roman was planning to change his ways? He couldn't seriously be planning to appoint Pep and then have Pep answering to Michael Emenalo, a man whose only coaching experience was a girls school team in America.
CobhamBlue
@BAWA, with your last comment you made good sense,we all have been harping on DOF and ex-players who know their footie to take positions with the club, like bayern, milan, barca etc, but now the question is, CAN ROMAN MAKE THIS GRAND PLAN OF OURS WORK? Can he relinquish his hold on the club and do what is right by appointing football brains and sacking the guys that don't know how to help him run a club, it is only when we ascertain that, then we can bodly shun a coach like mou and build where we ought to have built for over 2 years
Desmondadonis
Get ready for more of the Ross Turnbull experience... Cech has a broken finger.
BlueCowboy
Johnyboyblue - totally agree with you - I've been supporting Chelsea since 1965 and I will never forget when I stood on Parson's Green watching the first PL parade and looked Mourinho in the eye and gave him a thumbs up. I was there with my son who is just as fanatical as me and before they arrived I had a little cry as I never thought that in my lifetime I would be watching us parade the Premier League trophy. That was down to Mourinho. I was at the last game before he was sacked and we played the Danes off the park and did everything but score so as to results being the reason why he was sacked I don't know - I was flabbergasted. Mourinho fits Chelsea like a glove. I want trophies, trophies trophies after 40+ years of watching boring boring Arsenal and Littelwoods Pools sponsored bin dippers waltzing off with them every year. Mourinho is now the best one to bring them on.
OldShedBoy
There's a lot of talk about philosophy and youth etc. but all that can be done and probably is being done but CFC are at the top of the pile - Champions of Europe and FA Cup holders and (usually anyway) 1st, 2nd or 3rd in the PL for the past decade or so. What has been done has been successful up to now and perhaps only Barca and Man. Utd. have been more successful but I think we have won more trophies than Man. Utd. in the past few years.
OldShedBoy
ECL match fixing scandal? Can anyone think of a semi-final match which might have been so? I wonder if a certain referee was involved? I always had my suspicions. But not saying anything... ha!
OldShedBoy
The foundation that Jose put down, has lasted us 8 years and is the reason that we have won so many trophies, both when he was at Chelsea and since he has left. Winning in Munich was the final roar from the side that he produced along with the winning mentality. The requirements at Real are different to Chelsea, they are a massive club and have dominated at the top in the past for generations, while we have not. Only since Jose walked into our club have we been percieved as a serious club, I know he brings baggage, but trophies are part of the package. I`m bored with tippy tappy football going nowhere. Football should be played on the pitch, not on the playstation by Roman and Emenalo. Unless we get a serious manager soon we will be scrambling for a top 6 finish year after year.
Blueheart9
OldShedBoy and Blueheart9 couldn't agree more - yes we would all like a foundation as described by BAWA - but the reality is you don't get time in the real world does anybody here believe that if Alex Ferguson was starting off now he would get 4 seasons to win something? Dream on - bring back Jose please!!
johnboyblue
And I have to say I thought the same thing this afternoon when the match fixing issue was mentioned - Overbo anyone?
johnboyblue
OVREBO!!! And I hope they *****in nail united, but that would suck for english football in general.
Mia Maynard
jose would be bad for our image? As if we have the best image in the world right now. We have a young team. A team whose core will last atleast 5 to 7 years. The foundations of which have to laid now. Klop or moyes are gentlemen. They will not last 6 months here. Jose and chelsea know each other very well. JoSe is still known as a chelsea manager though he still won more at inter. Welcome back jose
Blue India
Thanks Mia - knew my spelling was wrong but I'm sure everyone knew who I meant lol! - and Blue India you are so right about gentlemen - not what we need right now - we need some passion and commitment!
johnboyblue
morinho uses ozil, Ronaldo and D maria behind a striker in the same 4-2-3-1 formation we use, ozil and d maria are not that much bigger or stronger than mata and oscar and harzad and mosses can hold there own against ronaldo, only difference with us and madrid is we don't have a regular scorer like ronaldo and our team isn't yet a team, all we need is a manager to get us displined but at the same time playing good footy + scoring goals, and morinho is that man!
pego sama
The foundation was set by Ranieri. He even got fan favourite Lampard.
foreign_viewer
Its just some English unreliables making noise. I have heard nothing from Spain. Given the type of players at our club, I dont think Mourinho would want to be unless he is given complete authority to restructure our squad. What I want is for RB to get sacked ASAP though(still got respect for him because of his good work at Mestella) and Frank Lampard appointed Player Manager. He may find a way to stay in London and we may find a way to keep at home one of our greatest legends.
Diego_rodriguezz
For all the people advocating for the return of JM. This current MADRID team are on paper has more depth in their squad than us but why is it not working for him now? Are we going to accept it if we are in the situation like REAL with 16 points behind in is 1st, 2nd or 3rd year? Are we going to still support him unconditionally? I think no. He is a great motivator which always works well when he take up a new challenge because he will be able to galvanized the players to play for HIM. Even SAF said he doesn't know how he get these players to play for him. But doesn't it last? What is happening now with MADRID is almost a carbon copy of his 3rd year with us. I remember how furious John Terry was when he learnt JM has gone to the medical staff to ask why JT was declare to fit. That was the beginning of the end. That is exactly what is happening at REAL. Most media was pointing fingers to some senior players as well. JM will never treat all is players the same and He also never takes responsibilities when games are lost instead he blame the players. JOE COLE would still be having nightmares if he remember those bashing from JM. Like few guys said we sacked him for a reason. Are there any soothsayer out there that would predict the 2nd coming would be a holy union? Not sure.
jollyheart Torres
It's more likely that hiddink is coming back. Jose would be amazing but I would believe it when I see it. Anyway hiddink has something on roman that makes it more plausible for him to come back.
Blue1989
With the rot in the team now IMO, I think we should bring jose back as I said, then we should bring in laudrup in the 3rd year if mou is getting bored of us, we can get a very good coach for the youth team till then... I am just feeling so down with the rut of the club right now
Desmondadonis
**** meant to say he learnt JM has gone to the medical staff to ask why JT was declare fit******
jollyheart Torres
And now we have the Jose haters. I wish CFC would hire someone else, so help you (Jose haters) God, the said manager dosent live up to expectation, maybe then you Jose haters can crawl under a rock and die. Nonsense, the nerve of you Chelsea unfaithfuls, saying rubbish in every single piece of article. Maybe you can come manage CFC a bit. ShI't talkers.
Tugay08
Jose's team he put together is the best chelsea side ever. All of the managers who have followed him have basically kept his side until arguably last season but even then we reverted back to Joses team when we had problems. Jose is the best manager we have ever had, He has unfinished business, we need him back. I cant understand those who dont want him back. He will build another championship winning side. It is laughable the names that are suggested, half of which we have no chance of getting and the other half have no experience of English football. #RafaOut #TorresOut #ComebackJose
funkyav
Feck this Jose return.He won't come if we don't finish in the top four.The interesting thing is about the fixing scandal.Any other CL tie in England that could have been fixed?Arsenal-Porto,United-Bayern,Chelsea-United?I bet it is the Chelsea-Barca 2009 semi-final.A big hug to the editorial team,VC brother and every Blue on this planet if that is the case.
cfc250
one thing i hve learnt in all my yrs of supporting chelsea under RA is tat it is useless to speculate......movin away frm d topic i read article an over hear which had all the figures about revenue generated n money spent on tranfers by chelsea, barca, MANU etc. the thing is i am not able to find the article. it would be of gr8 help if anyone can let me know the name of the article or could provide a link to it...really need it
chelsblr
I would welcome Jose back without hesitation, but I do wonder if he'll come unless he's given the kind of power he craves. I don't see Roman conceding much in that respect, which means we may see more of the same disharmony. Roman has forever altered this club and given us memories we won't forget, but until he grows up and accepts his own fallibility, we will never keep a top manager at the club.
RadioactiveD
david moyes , laurent blanc , guss hiddink , walter mazzari , diego simeone are all being linked with chelsea ... wht ottmar hitzfield the head coach of switzerland
haji ahmed
erikson , houllier ??
haji ahmed
I love this mourinho picture in the rocky balboa pose lol
Chelsea ken
some of just amuse me. jose has been here before and he knows the club and english footie too, some u guys says say he creates controversy, deos he does dat more dan fregie? avae wenger and macini, spare me those comments pls
darilngblue
well for me this year can still have a silver lining if jose returns!
dickturpin
do u guys think jose will be forced to play torres if h continues to play lyk this?
darilngblue
pego sama, Only flaw is that Real Madrid/Barcelona play in Spain not the English Premier League. Time and time again a team full of big strong players wins the league in England. Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City. tika-taka will never win the league in England. There is a reason Barcelona nearly always lose when they come to play away games in England.
CobhamBlue
Can someone start a story on the ECL match fixing thing? I've always had a gut feeling about all that. Would we be awarded to ECL for 2009 if found to be the case - absolutely not but then actually why not? No, they'd probably award it to Man U. Briefcases of Euros changing hands? I wrote an article on refereeing at the time which is till somewhere on the site.
OldShedBoy
They would probably just strip Barca of the 2009 title, if it was that match. But then can anyone see UEFA doing that to their darling Barca?
OldShedBoy
As BB intimated above, the romantic notion that the love affair can be rekindled is fraught with potential show-stoppers. Returning to a previous love can only ever work if both parties have matured, and recognise their contributions to the failed partnership from before. My heart wants Jose to return, my head tells me that it could get fractious once again, never mind all the friendly texts that supposedly have passed between RA & JM. Would either of these guys concede their misdemeanours of the past affair, I doubt it, both possess huge egos, both felt the other took away from their respective achievements. What we need is Hiddink to act as 'marriage counsellor' between this pair, but counselling only works if both parties can commit to it. I still believe that the best appointment Roman can make at this moment in time is Hiddink as DOF, Roman then has someone he trusts and can talk football sense to him until the cows come home. I feel certain RA does not get this two-way football discussion from any of the current Board members, it needs someone who has experienced the game professionally in all respects, and someone who doesn't resort to "Yes, Mr Abramovich" answers or responses. I am really surprised that Roman, who is so obviously into his football, hasn't surrounded himself with someone like this to bounce footballing ideas around and not get the corporate yes-man response that surely must surround him as of now. Hiddink seems like the closest candidate and importantly, does not have anything to prove in footballing knowledge, he could be Roman's confidant, no self-serving strings attached.
BlueABS
Jose is an extremely good coach who will get most of our problems resolved right away. What coaches like him have got going for them is that they have found a formula in most aspects of running a club. He already knows what kind of style works for him, and most importantly what kind of players who fit into that kind of style. He chooses players who match skill and mental toughness and in turn. He takes care of them and in turn they usually fight for him. For us players like Luiz, Eden, Oscar will benefit a lot from him as he will whip them into shape discipline and mental wise and or he will ship them out. We will know within a few months what the problem with each player is: laziness, indiscipline etc. By our second season, we will have a team that can go for another 5-7 years regardless of who is n charge. Jose will also resolve the board interference issues as he will want to be sorely in charge. However that said, Jose is a 2-year solution. He is a nomad who thrives off challenges. He likes the thrill of fixing a team, but he does not last and does not like staying at one place. He gets bored. And when he gets bored, he becomes a PR nightmare to the detriment of the club. Therefore, it will be a very good 2 years with Jose but downhill from then onwards. By the 3rd year, we will be working overtime on the PR front as well as looking for another coach. Jose is who he is. From a playing standpoint, we will have at least one league title, FA Cup and perhaps another cup as well. Where I have doubts is in as far as the style of play. Jose is struggling at Real primarily because how his team is set up is no longer a match to the South American/Spanish system that is growing in La Liga which emphasizes on being compact and counter-attacks. Jose plays an EPL style system that is expansive where players are positioned to cover the whole ground. However that system isolates attacking players and leaves holes which teams can exploit. It’s a system which made us suffer in Europe under Carlo and which is seeing United and City suffer in Europe as well. At Chelsea we used to blame it on Frank saying he didn’t have flair and was not creative. City, Real and United have creative players but are all struggling against that South American style. Jose’s Real has better players than us at every position including having Ronaldo, but he is losing. My point is we will not win in Europe with Jose. If we settled on Jose though, I would suggest that we (i) sign him up for only 2 years and (ii) bring Zola/Poyet/ or some other young hotshot who can serve under him as an apprentice and then take over. TWO year and let him move on. He will be focused enough rebuilding. The more sober solution is to bring in Guus as manager/Director with an assistant manager who will take over. More like what Carlos Quiroz was for United. Jose option probably limits the choice of assistant coaches who can work under him, but with Guus, you can attract more.
OCBlues
OldShedboy.I don't mind if they award it to Man UTD.Barca did not deserve to be in Rome for the final.If I see Ovrebo ever,I'll shoot him.Sorry for the language Merlin.That was the worst day of my life.Lampard got the better of Xavi and Iniesta that day.
cfc250
OCblues, good thinking in the mou for 2 years side of your comment, but the question I ask myself is that can mou and hiddink work progressively together without clashing? If hiddink was appointed as DOF are u sure he won't suggest marco van basten or rijkaard instead of mou?
Desmondadonis
Bla bla bla the Avb fan boys dont want mourinho back. they dont want whats best for chelsea football club.
Lakupiippu
Odd that they same people that wants lampard out,wanted rdm to get sacked, loves AVB, wanted pep to be chelsea manger. Dont wants Mourinho to return. Wait not so odd really.
Lakupiippu
+ they even defends Benitez to!
Lakupiippu
I think at this time we need hiddink as manager for 2 seasons. Our transition hasn't finished yet and we are still not the finished article. Hiddink could make our transition work better. He is clearly trusted, will most definitely be the owners choice and he's loved by all. I believe at this time after what's happened this season Guus can be our knight in Oranje armour! Employ the next manager as his assistant.
Blue1989
OCBlues,I disagree with what you said about our chances in europe with Jose incharge. The only thing we know is that he doesnt stay that long at a club but anything suggestions regarding what a team might win or might not win is really way off.
3nity
Any suggestions**
3nity
3nity Mourinho have said that when he returns to england he will stay their.
Lakupiippu
Just watch this and all you mourinho haters will be quiet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TWaZBXcWvg&list=UUNe72yWJVb09pgEkkwGlw8Q&index=1
Lakupiippu
this will be the absolute worst thing we could do right now, im praying we dont bring this guy back
Gondo
@ Desmond. Its either Jose or Guus. Not both of them at the same time. You can bring in a Poyet, Zola, etc under Jose. There will be stability in as far as the squad is concerned, but there might still be interference after Jose leaves. The difference with Guus is that you can still bring him in as a coach who can manage for a year before becoming the DOF. So with Guus you have more options which are advantageous. For starters even head coaches such as Simeone, Laudrup might be tempted to come in as his assistants knowing the club will be stable after he becomes DOF. Guus also knows how to structure a club from the bottom up. Not only will we play total football right away, but we will have ourselves a Barca style academy within his first year with actual players being promoted. If I was to choose between the two, I would say Guus. Most likely the same impact as Jose but with more value as he can deliver additional that Jose can not.
OCBlues
Guus is earning retirement money,....what makes you people think Guus will come back???? Stop speculating about a manager thats unavailable and get real!!
3nity
Like him or loathe him a mourinho article gets a lot of response on here.
Chelsea ken
Possibly the fact that hiddink backtracked on retirement claims and if push comes to shove he's got one last shot in him before he does retire.
Blue1989
And who's to say Jose wants to return. I'm sure he would but an owner never changes his spots! What's different between now and the last time he was here. Nothing's changed.
Blue1989
My choice is either David Moyes or Harry Redknapp. The latter was available when RDM was sacked and should have been preferred to Rafa. QPR beat us at Stamford Bridge. Nuff said.
Blue Day
@Blue ABS excellent mature and well thought out post above...i fully agree with your idea that in the ideal world Gus Hiddink as DOF would be wonderful to serve as "marriage counselor" between Roman and Jose were he to return. I just dont see it happening..i dont see anything to suggest that Roman has changed and that means i dont see him having the patience to appoint a young coach and give him the time needed to build a new squad, nor do i see him being patient enough with an established superstar coach once the results and trophies dont keep coming or when said coach dares to stand up to him and refuse to be his puppet. Honestly the only thing that will convince me that Roman may have seen the light is if he reconsititutes our board..to keep his circle of advisors and our present administrative structure the same and think anything has changed is just ludricous.
GabeU
I'm not really interested in Jose returning to Chelsea... He is a good coach but lacks some qualities we need in a manager and I'm not a big fan of his football philosophies... but maybe he has learnt one or two things which will make him a new and better Mourinho... I'll still rather have a new face..... the problem is we have very limited choices at the moment.....
Latunvic
Thats gonna be the dream come true for us. I really want him to manage us again cause we don't look like how we used to under Jose. Yeah we've won a few tro[hies but there was missing something special in our club: his character and smile :).... Come home Jose!!! We miss you!!!
Prettyguy
I'm sorry, I'm not buying into this argument of whether Jose is a good coach or not, his record speaks for itself, lets put some clarity on the matter, firstly I would say the reason so many of his previous clubs look to be on a downward spiral once he's left is because other coaches find it difficult to replace him and match his achievements, also I think players once the have played for him tend to have an affinity with him and find it difficult to take on another coaches ideas, in short players will sweat blood and tears for him. As for his lasting legacy at his previous clubs - Porto he built that team from nothing took them to consecutive League titles and won the Champions league and Europa before leaving to come to us, at Chelsea, he turned a talented side into winners, how, he bought extremely well in Carvalho, Ferreira, Drogba and Essien all at the time mid 20's and bursting with talent and integrated them into a team with a them against us mentality resulting in a phenomenal trophy haul which until now was the cornerstone of our success, at Inter he took an already ageing side and won their first Champions League in 45 years and instilled that same mentality, onto Real Madrid, he has taken a team which had not won the league title in 4 years due to the dominance of Uefalona and knocked them off their lofty perch albeit for a season, however he will leave a lasting legacy with Khedira, Ozil, Di Maria etc. I think what we forget as fans of our beloved club is, before Mourinho where was we? yes we was in the top 4, but did any of us believe we'd eventually be where we are now, in part that's down to the players but who instilled that belief that they are winners? look at Man utd, year on year they win, why? Because Sir Alex instills something in them which gives them that edge, lets face it they currently (bar Van Persie and Rooney) are an average side but they have that togetherness because of the Manager. I firmly believe that if Mourinho was still with us our trophy haul would be greater and we'd have more Champions League trophies in the cabinet. No other Manager can give players that extra 10% like Jose with the exception of Old Red Nose.
Splint1976
You are right @Splint1976... but why has Mourinho failed to stay beyond 3 seasons in any of these clubs.... What is the probability of him staying here for more than 2 seasons and not pick up a quarrel with the club management or owner after spending just one or two seasons... Jose is volatile. If we need someone to manage the team for 2 or 3 years then Jose may be a good choice but if our goal is a long term manager then I'm afraid Jose may not be the right choice....
Latunvic
We cannot dwell on any ifs and wonts, right now the heartrob of roman spurned him and signed for bayern, the next best thing who we can mention in the same breath (due to the amount of trophies won) is mourinho. Let him stay for 2 years or 2 and a half then one of the new generation coach can replace him if he wants to leave. Mourinho all the way, mou is the coach that can bring chelsea back to where it belongs
Desmondadonis
No club, ManUre and currently Madrid (under Jose) aside, exists in Europe where the Manager has power over football matters.
@Mq
No club, ManUre and currently Madrid (under Jose) aside, exists in Europe where the Manager has power over football matters. He has opinions over football matters and only influence in team selection (not entirely tho) otherwise there's always a director of football who determines the players for the system. What makes you "experts" think Mourinho deserves that kind of control, seeing as he's messed up Madrid with the same control??
@Mq
Some of you's come here criticizing Roman like he is stupid, negating that infact you aren't the brightest of the lot either..."Give Mourinho control, Give Jose control, Jose is the best that's ever happened to Chelsea" I mean LoL...hardly any club in Europe does what you suggesting, the exceptions being those who've proven themselves (SAF). Get Real ffs
@Mq
To the true CFC fans, who want the best for the club, but still believe that Mourinho is not it, I ask that you list reasons sans the issues on controversial, negativity etc...I get that Ranieri bought Lampard...but ask Lamps and he will tell you that Mourinho is a big part of the player he bacme and is...Drogba will tell you the same...see Essien etc...Mourinho also had the wherewithall to buy Sjneider from Real for 10 million...10 million...then he sold Ibra for Eto and 40 million...the guy was born to run a football club...ofcourse Inter would fail after he left....getting them 12 million in the process...they went and did what we're doing right now...plodding along with Rafa.
Gian-Franco/Luca
And people think we sack managers for fun. They should look at Palermo now gasperini has been sacked. They've had 22 managers in 10 years. Zamparini makes roman look like a pussy cat!
Blue1989
@GabeU - I agree, this catatonic malaise that is Buck / Gourlay / Emanalo has to change for our Club to progress. Roman has his ideas on how he wants HIS team to play, but there is, and always has been a disconnection between him and the squad, including managers. In the past, he has used senior players to convey that message to the playing squad, which can't be right. He needs to appoint a DOF that can be his mouthpiece to squad and fans. Hiddink would be ideal, but just to throw it in there, maybe even Capello. Once this bottleneck in administration is sorted, then we may have a manager appointed who doesn't have to keep looking over his shoulder and worry when he sees Buck or Gourlay in the tunnel.
BlueABS
I would not call Roman stupid...he is a gazzilionaire so he is not stupid...neither is Zuckerberg...but would I want Zuckerberg or Gates or Buffet running my football club???? No...their competencies lie elsewhere...If Roman's core companies where he made his billions were sport related ala John Henry's NESV...then I would be more comfortable having him run things...I mean what does Natural Gas Exploration and Oil have to do with Footie...
Gian-Franco/Luca
Blue1989...so where are the Sicilians in Serie A??? Point is stability is the best bet...Parlermo Sold Cavani...Pastore etc...their ambitions and ours are not aligned...hence I would not want there to be any correlation between my beloved and those dreaded Sicilians...
Gian-Franco/Luca
Emanalo has to be demoted or even let go for bringing the Tubby One to our Club.
BlueABS
Roman's mouthpiece, i.e. a new DOF has to be a footballing man. That might be obvious, but the administration throughout his time suggests that RA hasn't grasped that concept. The DOF has to be squeaky clean and good for PR as well. He has to buy into someone who can convey his ideas to the footballing world, not just the squad. I mean, not one of us has a clue what goes on in RA's mind, and it's about time, the Club & fans have some candidness from the owner. A bit more transparency on the aims of the Club might explain why we have a depleted 1st team squad whilst 20+ players are out on loan.
BlueABS
Oh you jokers. Who else will you take? Won't park no bus, won't add to the controversy, won't cause player infighting. Will discipline, will have the tactical nous that is unparalleled, will have more than one system, will have the fans support, will win mind games, will motivate, will pressure referees , will make the bridge a fortress and with United needing to replace fergie will be favorite to win.
Mia Maynard
...then he sold Ibra for Eto and 40 million...the guy was born to run a football club...point of correction GIAN it was Barca that bought Ibra for that much, not Mourinho negotiating the sale for the much. Get your facts right
@Mq
and for the record, show me a billionaire who'd spend as much as Roman has but doesn't want control....otherwise, if you can't stomach it then puke and leave
@Mq
@Mq I present to you the Abu Dhabi group in Manchester...see also Massimo Morratti who is a billionaire and did cede control to the Coach...sale was sanctioned by the coach...negotiations are usually a two party activity no?...
Gian-Franco/Luca
Let's see...Morratti - Inter is broke now after "ceding" control to (no prizes for guessing) Mourinho....Abu Dhabi - they do have a DOF at Man$hitty don't they, and judging by the way Mancini cries about players, he clearly doesn't have control does he?? Case in point, he still bemoans missing out on Van Persie.........................so much for control GIAN :)
@Mq
Haha! Desmond....not minding if Mourinho comes here and leave again after just 2 seasons is nothing but glory hunting... So, what happens when he leaves, back to square one... I thought our new goal is stability; long term plan... not just a myopic hunt for short term and unsustainable glory..
Latunvic
Mourinho back in the summber = No brainer. Make it happen RA...
JohnnyOz
@MQ-- The Abu Dhabi group has spent way more than Roman. They do not dabble in footballing matters mate,the put in place a good DOF and appointed some great footballing minds who know how to run a football club. The fact that Mancini moans about missing out on certain players show that he doesnt have absolute control but it also shows that other departments of the club are doing their jobs. Mancini had 4 top draw strikers and still wanted RVP,if you were the DOF at city,would you have agreed to that? Whats it with you and your hatred for Mou? Attributing the fact that Inter is broke to Mou?? Cmon,get your facts right mate and stop spilling that sort of stuff.
3nity
And by the way,if Mou with all the control he had at Inter had said...''No,im not selling Ibra cos i really need him and i dont want Etoo'',Im sure Morratti wouldnt have sold Ibra and the rest would have been history. MQ-whichever way you look at it,Mou agreed to let Ibra go for 40mill plus Etoo. If thats not genius,i dont know what is.
3nity
Mq please keep quiet and don't say another word about Mou. At least he will win a lot in that 3 years. Do you suggest that we stick to you buffoon coach who has cost us more points than Mou ever did in a season. I am seriously doubting our credentials as a blue supporter with that stupid comment there. You called RDM and IMBECILE, advocated for him to be sacked, trumpetted Rafa to High heavens as our saviour and yet have the audacity and temerity to tell us Mourinho plays boring football>>> at least he was winning something and we were never 16 points behind the Leader not even with the IMBECILE in charge. Do we really need to look further than this site to know who the IMBECILE really is?????
Dwonder
Mark your word?????!!!!!!! Wonders will never end. If i recall correctly, the last time we marked you word, we got a Spanish Waiter who is busy dismantling our dear club. I will rather delete your words if i have a chance.
Dwonder
LOL @ Dwonder. Calm down mate.lol
3nity
I wish our club was run as well as Man City. They are at the beginning of their journey, sadly ours is now coming to an end. If Roman can not grasp the simple concept, that he needs to surround himsef with football people, as opposed to yes men who are to frightened to challenge any decision, our days at the very top are over.
Blueheart9
Bring on TONY PULLIS and LAUDRAP Combo and we will play rugby in beautiful way....
shlok27
I always make the mistake of logically engaging ppl here who have no concept of the term logic...logically; not wanting a Mourinho return makes little sense...all the successes at our club were prefounded upon players he molded and/or bought. Where are we without Drogba...not in UCL 2013...not with players such as Oscar/Harzard etc...no prestige...his goals in the FA Cup gone...that is 4 trophies gone...5 with the UCL...6 without his golden boot year in 2009/2010...7 considering his wembly exploits in the League Cup...who brought us Drogba...Mou. We are what we are because of two people...Roman and Jose (who brought us Drogba...he who would have gone had @Mq had his way and we invested all our trust in Schevschenko as was his stated wish...)
Gian-Franco/Luca
@latunvic, if u see it as gloryhunting, I think that is ur cup of tea, I am sure the peeps that I directed the comment to understand what I mean perfectly.....pheeeew
Desmondadonis
If we want a glory of 2 years then struggle for identity of 5 years then Mouhrinho is our man but if we want a coach that will build a virile team and stick around to win trophies with them for the next 5 - 10 years the Jose wont be a good choice. He is a proud fellow that prefers having won here he should be seen to be winning with another (club) elsewhere in order to create a niche for himself. His Ego wont allow him remain for instance in England winning trophies for Chelsea for 3 seasons running. In addition, he will come with more controversy, bad press, friction with Management etc Suffice me to add (i maybe wrong) that his technical skill, match reading ability, man-management, right substitution forsight is on the decline as evidenced towards the end of last season and most of this season. so at chelsea he will end up paying some set of players all through and killing (the skill) of those he doesnt like. What happens to our legion of 23 currently on loan? i doubt if he will ever make use of them as you are sure to see 3-4 players from Madrid perhaps joining us (another round of wasted funds on buying players starts). Wont want to repeat other reasons e.g boring play, lack of desire to stay more than 2-3 seasons, speaking when he is supposed to be working etc mentioned by others. I have this strong feeling he may want to come to Chelsea just to prove a point against SAF and his desired will be hightened if United beat them in the CL
jim shimfe
Absolutely spot on Gian. Sometimes i just dont get how some people think. The reason we are in this mess is as a result of people like @MQ and Ken. Their reasoning puts me in a permanent state of bewilderment.
3nity
@JIm Shimfe--I am sorry mate but that is the most ridiculous form of drivel i have come across on this site!!!!WTF! His Technical skill,match reading ability and sub forsight is on the decline??? Cant believe im replying to this. Has he gone mad or gotten brain damaged? Has he grown so old? You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and to imagine you have typed something so long with so much bs is worrying!!!!!!
3nity
...The fact that Mancini moans about missing out on certain players show that he doesnt have absolute control but it also shows that other departments of the club are doing their jobs. Mancini had 4 top draw strikers and still wanted RVP,if you were the DOF at city,would you have agreed to that...then clearly he has NO CONTROL then shall we say 3NITY?? You answered yourself. And by the way, Dortmund wanted Dzeko and I'm sure had Mancini got Van Persie he'd have sold him, likewise eventually Balotelli. So much for control
@Mq
You can call me all you like but BOTTOM LINE is....1) RDM was a clueless chancer who, when the going got tough, failed to live up to expectation. 2) Mourinho is a good Manager but whenever he's had control, he's fu(ked up big time. At Inter he had control, he left them in a mess and God only knows what would've happened had he stayed 1 more season. He left on a "high" and recall him always saying he wishes he left Chelsea earlier, that's right, on a "high". So much for longevity and building under Mourinho. At Madrid he's taken control and look how fu(ked they are now. Proves if you give him control he'll either leave on a "high" (when he's won) just before you faced with financial disaster, or he'll fu(k things up as he had at Madrid. Now why would you, being Roman and having invested so much to see the club build even in the academy, trust control to a man who'll either leave on a "high" or leave when he's fu(ked things up??...*smh*
@Mq
What about Juventus Conte
SameX
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/2644279/Jose-Mourinho-I-wish-Id-left-Chelsea-earlier-Football.html
@Mq
mourinho is a disaster waitin to happen...cant beleive people want him here...people are complaining roman for not bringing stabality to our club...and they want mourinho who never remain stable at any club he managed..do you guys really think jose will last longer than one or two year....he is glory hunter who wants to remain in spotlight...after tubby fiasco dont want jose fiasco once again....
shlok27
And this^^^is the man you want to come "home"....*smh*
@Mq
@MQ.....the fact that a manager has control around a club doesnt mean he will always get what he wants. Of all the players Mancini requested,RVP is the only one he didnt get. If thats not control,then you must be assuming he owns the damn club. Hell he even got Rodwell and Sinclair when he clearly doesnt need them. Your claim that Dortmund wanted Dzeko is really conditional given the fact that Klopp came out this January and said Dzeko would have to take a huge pay cut to join them,likewise Balotelli as Mancini claimed a few days before that transfer that he isnt interested in selling the player,but the player wanted out and took a pay cut to push it through. If Dzeko wanted out,why didnt he do a Balotelli??? And Mou has *****ed up big time whenever he's had control? STate an evidence to support your claims. He said he wished he had left Chelsea earlier? Where and when did he say this? Stop conjuring things and state facts! He left Inter cos a bigger club came calling. Had Madrid not approached him,He would have remained at Inter and they wouldnt be in this mess ''your Rafa'' created with his tactical nous. And regarding Madrid,you are simply clutching on straws!
3nity
How did mourinho ruin chelsea when he left? How did mourinho ruin inter? Stop spewing this kind of talk and give statements that are backed up with facts!!! If mou comes here for 2 years, he'll create another solid foundation that can last us another 1 years, u people are saying stuffs that u can't prove, how was real playing under capello and pellegrini? How is it more better than mou's real?
Desmondadonis
1) ... Of all the players Mancini requested,RVP is the only one he didnt get. If thats not control,then you must be assuming he owns the damn club. Hell he even got Rodwell and Sinclair when he clearly doesnt need them...he got those after he failed to get Van Persie 3NITY check the timelines, Mancini wanted Van Persie first and went for Sinclair only after Van Persie had joined ManUre. 2) My evidence of Mourinho fu(king things up?? Look at Madrid now, is it not fu(ked?? Do you call it normal for a club to spend so much and be sitting 16points behind their rivals?? As for Inter, we'll never know because like I said, Jose either leaves on a "high" (Inter) or he leaves when things are fu(ked (Chelsea, soon to be Madrid) which I'm sure answers your question. 3)As for when/where Mourinho said he wishes he left earlier, i posted a link for your benefit ;)
@Mq
...how was real playing under capello and pellegrini? How is it more better than mou's real?...Pellegrini led Real Madrid to 99points, the highest ever tally for a team to come 2nd to a vastly brilliant trebble winning Barca that season. Yes his Champs League record was "awful" but that was 1 season with them, how much better has Jose done?? The same Jose that lost 5nil to Barca LoL
@Mq
Once more...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/2644279/Jose-Mourinho-I-wish-Id-left-Chelsea-earlier-Football.html
@Mq
A team atimes isn't built by one man, if mou builds our team and u get someone like klopp after a coupla years if he (mou) wants to test his mettle elsehwere again, would it be delusional to say that team would be solid with both manager's input?
Desmondadonis
Stop making a fool out of urself, I am talking about playing styles, u lot are saying he plays park the bus style and I said how is capello's team and pellegrini team playing, so pellegrini was so good he didn't win anything, mou was so bad he won la liga and copa dey rey isn't it? How many players scored the goal ronaldo scored in a season under pellegrini and capello, if his football Is that boring real would not be a free scoring side as they were
Desmondadonis
Which players at Dortmund would Mourinho buy to "lay the ground" for Klopp?? The last player linked to the 2 (Sahin) left Klopp a brilliant player and was turned into garbage by Jose....eish some logic is toxic
@Mq
*currently at Dortmund for comparisons sake...
@Mq
Sneidjer left real for inter, and became a world beater there, is that reason toxic too? Lampard, drogba?
Desmondadonis
eh Messrs DESMOND et al...http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2012/12/22/3617478/the-numbers-that-show-real-madrid-may-have-been-better-off
@Mq
I quote...Additionally, his brand of attacking football was more in tune with what most Madrid fans feel should be their side's style of play - a passing and possesion philosophy more similar to Barca's than their current counter-attacking game under the Portuguese....LoL boy am I loving making a "fool" out of myself ;)
@Mq
Sneider doesn't fit the Dortmund profile (he's not fast enough) likewise Drogba (not technical as he is strong) and Lamps (more functional than anything) I said name a player at Dortmund right now working with Klopp that you'd envisage Mourinho sign first, leaving him for Klopp eventually?? Sahin is a "truer" case study because he's worked with both, excelled with Klopp but flopped with Jose. Tells you something about your reasoning
@Mq
...Manuel Pellegrini: "I would have liked to have won at least 1 title with Real Madrid and I still think we did enough to deserve it. I wonder how strong would Real Madrid be these days, if all of a sudden they would lose Cristiano Ronaldo for a couple of months and Pepe for almost half a year, as it did happen with me during the 2009-2010 season. Even with all those setbacks, we did 96 points in the Spanish League!", pointed out the Chilean manager, who seemed a bit upset with the fact that José Mourinho's men did break La Liga's single-season point record in 2011-2012, after reaching the impressive 100 points mark.....so it turns out Pellegrini didn't have Ronaldo for a while, likewise Pepe and yet he achieved 6 points less than the best Mourinho's ever achieved in 3 seasons there?? Talk about a comparison, man this just get's better and better to proving just how Mourinho's all that you claim him to be
@Mq
@ MQ- this is culled out from the link you posted. Mourinho said: "If there is a moment in my career where I regret a decision it was clearly the day after the FA Cup Final, when my agent told me 'Club X' wants you tomorrow and I told him no, I love it here and I don't want to go, I want to stay. Does this not show that he did not want to leave? How does that support your claim that he likes leaving on a high when obviously he declined the opportunity to leave on that said high? Mind you,the team that season got into the UCL final and only lost out due to a pk.
3nity
http://www.ronaldo7.net/news/2012/578-manuel-pellegrini-i-wonder-how-real-madrid-would-do-without-cristiano-ronaldo.html
@Mq
...Pellegrini: "My situation in Real Madrid ended up being the result of me defending several players who I believed to be vital for the team. I couldn't accept changing my own ideas into a tottally different game concept. Especially in what concerned the players who were to leave and join the club, such as Santi Cazorla for example. I had the support of both the players and the fans. Despite all the negative media campaign made against me, I believe I left the club with 80% of the public supporting me. That just shows we share a common feeling in the way we live this game, as well as my own personality, so it obviously gives me much satisfaction to note that. I hold no grudge at all against the club! Quite the contrary, since I have a lot of great relationships with people that still work in Real Madrid", concluded the Malaga CF coach.....say what Pellegrini?? 80% of the fans still "loved" you?? I wish Jose, the "winner" could say the same LoL
@Mq
@mq,If you think sahin would play ahead of alonso and khedira then it sums you all up (your real knowledge of football!!!) :-)....
Desmondadonis
@ MQ.dont be posting stuff from your friends at Goal.com regarding Mourinho. Everyone knows Goal.com is pro Barcelona. Some articles on that site are just crazy. And Sahin did not flop with Jose,he got injured and didnt get a chance to fight for his place,thats not flopping mate. Torres is what you call flopping! Mou's side broke the record for highest number of points tally in that league. So let me get this straight,you expect Mourinho to play the barca brand of football? Is that what you are saying??? Unbelievable! You expected him to copy the barca style?????
3nity
LoL dude you are either intentionally naive or naturally naive 3NITY he said..."That's the moment I regret. After that day, after that final, I should (have left) Chelsea and I would have the chance in Wembley to say goodbye to the fans and to say goodbye to English football.....But clearly if I regret one decision in my career it's that decision of staying in Chelsea not one more season, staying in Chelsea a few more months."....in essence among his "regrets" in his career, him not leaving early counts as of the "highest".
@Mq
You post a link of pellegrini, doing a rafa benitez, so what does it bring to the debate? You get too much ahead of urself and don't calm down when debating, which makes you lose out in almost all the debate you have with people in here, fading out when you get found out, how many fans would want mou back in chelsea? Perhaps over 90%, I posted some links yesterday about mou and those who clicked it would see how brilliant he is, it is only someone who don't know anything about football that would dare overlook mou's achievement and bad mouth him, there was a post match or pre match interview (can't remember) where pep even acknowledged his brilliance and he didn't do it out of humility, but total respect for his achievements in the game which pep is still chasing
Desmondadonis
..."The style of how we play is very important. But it is omelettes and eggs. No eggs - no omelettes! It depends on the quality of the eggs. In the supermarket you have class one, two or class three eggs and some are more expensive than others and some give you better omelettes. So when the class one eggs are in Waitrose and you cannot go there, you have a problem."...this is what Jose said about the players who would go on to lose the Champs League on penalties. So much for "progress" from Mr "buy buy"
@Mq
That's why I posted the 2nd link 3NITY where Pellegrini himself says he still had support from 80% of Madrid fans, and even spoke about playing good football, thus answering the garbage DESMOND was on about Pellegrini possible playing garbage football at Madrid
@Mq
The players Mourinho called "bad eggs" reached the Champs League final under Grant
@Mq
Besides, that goal.com link also gave you stats that proved Pellegrini had a better match winning record than Jose currently has.
@Mq
@MQ---Your negligence of the facts is alarming and it only oozes stupidity. He said he rejected an offer to move on at that wembley final cos he wanted more years and more success with the club. The only reason he regrets it was cos he was later forced to leave mid-season anyway. Are you bi-polar or you just have a hard time understanding what he was saying? HE REGRETS NOT MOVING AFTER THAT FINAL BECAUSE EVENTUALLY,HE WASNT ALLOWED TO ENJOY MORE SUCCESS WITH A CLUB HE DEARLY LOVES AND HE WAS FORCED TO LEAVE A FEW MONTHS LATER. How can you attribute that to the fact that he always like to leave on a high? Besides,wouldnt you rather leave the stage when the ovation is highest? You have simply decided to ignore any sort of common sense as you have been blinded by your hatred for the man. Shame really cos he is a winner anyway!
3nity
@3nity, if you have followed mq's comments since avb and rdm time till the day rafa was appointed, you'll sum him all up nicely, he was so sure rdm won't be given the job and insulted some fans that roman wasn't taken by sentiments and won't give rdm the job, 2 weeks after that, rdm was given the job, he was so orgasmic that we will get hulk and moura, when some fans calmly told him it won't happen, I haven't seen hulk or moura in cobham since those assertions by the "expert", he was so sure moses is not chelsea material and only good for a mid table team, we all can say something pertaining to that. Sighs* I have seen it all from the boy, nothing is new
Desmondadonis
@MQ- you lose out on an argument cos you dont stay on point! Pick one point,drive that point in and prove your case. If i am wrong and end up agreeing with your point,i will state it. It doesnt make you the better man,it proves that we live and we learn. In this case,you are having a merry go round. Now you are switching to stats. What titles did Pellegrini win with Madrid? Are you comparing him to Jose now? If Pellegrini is loved by 80% of madrid fans,how about Porto,Inter and Chelsea fans willing to die for Jose??? Youre not as argumentative as you think you are....you argue almost blindly. Sometimes you bring out your facts but most times you just go on with.................
3nity
@mq, stop making a fool of urself, post the comment where I said pellegrini played gabbarge" football? I am really feeling sorry for u. As u can't debate in any form of civility. Post where I used the word garbbage*
Desmondadonis
RDM,I can vividly remember the time. You both were always at eachother and i had a great time reading your arguments. Lets just say i am so glad Hulk didnt come to Chelsea but to be honest,i secretly admired him until i watched him up close and personal at the Olympics and i found out certain things about him. The greed didnt help his cause either. Moses on the other hand is just getting better. His head is down and he wants to learn...
3nity
in layman's terms 3NITY he regrets not leaving on a "high" :)
@Mq
My point: if it's longevity, stability and team building from the academy upwards you want 3NITY, Jose is not your man. If it's short-term instant success at a cost, he is your man. What we need right now is the former, which Jose doesn't fit the profile. Hell, he's even failing @ Madrid now, with all the "control" you feel he should be given to come to Chelsea, his "home" apparently, which further justifies why he'd be the wrong choice for us in the long-term
@Mq
@mq, have resulted to lying again when he have been found out, so sorry for u, I wonder why pellegrini wasn't rehired when real parted ways with him since u are so excited by his post on goal.com
Desmondadonis
...Although now, after the "period we going through you ask yourself, 1) what if we didn't hire RDM but hired some1 whom we had enough faith to buy their recommendations?? It's possible we wouldn't be in this "mess", not so?? This proves I wasn't wrong about us not hiring RDM. 2) What if we bought Moura instead of Oscar?? Moura is a faster player, who would add more pace with trickery going forward, possible helping especially in being versatile with the wingers. Again, it's possible I was right about us buying him. 3) What if we bought Hulk instead of Moses?? For all those calling Hulk a flop, none have proven so. Further to that, Hulk was versatile enough to play as striker so when we saw TorrMented1's flops, we'd have had a "viable" alternative earlier on and possible rescued some games, in the process resting TorrMented1. Furthermore, Moses left for Afcon and we've suffered in winger squad depth, had we got Hulk we'd surely have had him by now, reducing the fatigue in the players by having more options available. So in essence, I could've been right in us following my recommendations in the summer after all ;)
@Mq
And by the way, my reasoning is far from "oozing stupidity" because eventually, I'm always right NELY (well apart from hiring RDM, buying Moura and Hulk stuff DESMOND is harping about)
@Mq
LoL DESMOND Pellegrini is at Malaga and doing very well for a club in a financial crisis lad LoL
@Mq
Nobody is buying ur pathetic excuses, it is typical to now act all humble and knowing when u have been found out... A better man would apologize for ur riddiculous claim that I wrote that pellegrini's football is gabbarge, but I don't expect u to apologize.. :-) and stop talking as if u are sooth sayer, we didn't buy those players end off!!!
Desmondadonis
you absolutely right we didn't buy the players DESMOND and look what's happening now?? LoL
@Mq
It hurts to know the VC 'mad man" almost always gets vindicated doesn't it?? Almost, because Rafa's not doing me any favors right now ;)
@Mq
....I am talking about playing styles, u lot are saying he plays park the bus style and I said how is capello's team and pellegrini team playing....if that doesn't intimate Pellegrini plays garbage football (park the bus) then surely I'm as stupid as you say DESMOND because that is what YOU said in this SAME ARTICLE a while ago *smh*
@Mq
Is mourinho playing garbbage football in real? Is his football less exciting than when pellegrini and capello were coaches? Is that an intimation of gabbarge football? I think u should answer by urself the stupid remark u claimed I made :-)
Desmondadonis
As for a VC "mad man" there is a mental note of that is at far as cfc is concerned. Priceless*
Desmondadonis
Is moura better than hazard? Is hulk better than moses/oscar? The jury is out on that one since hulk and moura have been grabbing headlines and getting rave reviews all through the season!!! Lmao
Desmondadonis
LoL...anyone can see what you attempting to do DESMOND I won't debtae lengthy with yo anymore. Call your father, brothers, uncles, nephews and all the male brain you can get, then I'll indulge you. Otherwise, why waste my time proving something I've always done ;)
@Mq
@mq,yes u are right you have always been making an arse of urself repeatedly mate with different peeps in here......Chuckling*... Its a shame u didn't answer those questions, it would have really made my day, but as usual, you chickened out :-)....rotlmao
Desmondadonis
sorry for interrupting the argument, but i do remember @mq accept defeat of his own error regarding RDM, admitting to eat humble pie having to watch the amazing of mazacar last year
Gaban
@desmond & 3nity - y dnt u guys jst ignore @mq, theres no use of arguing wit him...i dont even read his comments coz they r sooooooo ludicrous
chelsblr
i hve read comments hear where in ppl want managers to stay for 10 yrs etc etc but according me if a club has a strong philosophy there is no need for a manager to stay that long, a new manager can com in jst follow d philosophy make few changes to it n tats it........3-4 yrs is long enough, i dnt mean to say tat remove a manager after 3-4 yrs even if he is doin good but if either d club r d manager want to move away then its ok.......if u look at teams big european teams since 1980 lik AC milan they have had 22 managers (tats an average of 1 manger for every 1.5 yrs). longest being carlo(8 yrs) n saachi (5 yrs).... At RM there have been 30 managers since 1980 ( ave of almost 1 manager per season) longest being del bosque (4 yrs)...At FC DIVERS there have been 20 managers (ave of 1.65 yrs). longest being cyruff(8 yrs) n after him was pep(4 yrs).... At bayern there have been 19 manager (ave of 1.7) longest being Lattek & heynckes (4 yrs).... At Juve ther have been 16 (ave of almost 2)... the beeter ave is due to Trapattoni staying for 10 n 3 yrs n lippi staying for 5 & 3 yrs
chelsblr
so if u look at these clubs wit strong philosophies barring a few exceptions who have stayed longer then 4 yrs or few others who have been sacked, majority of managers have stayed for 3 or 4 yrs only
chelsblr
so we should stop running around tryin to get a guy who will stay for 8 or 10 yrs. we should 1st sort out the structure of the club, get a DOF wit a good footballing vision. d DOF will should then be allowed to map out the course the club is going to take in the future n then we should start looking for d manager who would take d club thro tat course (and also it would help us select a coach who has a similar philosophy to tat of the club)... rite now the club is running around lik a headless chicken coz there is no proper planning for the future. the outlook is always only for 1-2 seasons. tryin to hire a managers who r successful wit other clubs but not really compatible wit us. theres no proper planning to get d academy players into d 1st team. the only manager who did this was Carlo n he was sacked (a mistake according to me).
chelsblr
@Chelsbir - good post, it's what I have been advocating on this thread (and others) and I believe GabeU thinks the same. The present administration rut has to be broken, those 3 guys who 'advise' RA are just getting it wrong too often. The most important appointment now is a DOF to help steer Roman in the right direction and make the right choices. Just two examples of our current Boards ineptitude - ME bringing Tubby to the Club, and Buck & Gourlay on trying to hoodwink the CPO in relinquishing their shares. Not saying RA didn't have a part to play and ultimately he has the final say-so, but these guys under him are just not good enough to run the footballing side of things. The right DOF will be the much needed link between the coaching staff and the owner. We never want to lose Roman, he has given this Club so much already, but he really needs to get the right people around him, not the clowns he currently employs.
BlueABS
@blueabs - lik u hve said bfore in ur post, RA is surrounded by YES men n tat doesnt bode well for any organization. i can take d example of the organization where i work, the owners r surrounded by YES men n they take some of the $hittiest decisions i hve seen in my career....havin lots of money doesnt guarantee tat d person will make rite decisions, to run a good organization an owner should hve advisers who can say "wit all due respect sir, the decision u r takin is wrong".... But to say tat the advisers should also be experienced in the footballing matters which they arent.....these clowns are not at all qualified to run a club lik CFC, its lik telin a bus driver to fly a plane
chelsblr
I agree with u guys @chelslr and blueabs, we have been saying the same thing over and over again here but no one is saying it where it matters in roman's ears
Desmondadonis
Totally agree with chelsblr and blue abs, we're a business first and foremost and the name of the game is success, whether that be instant or a lasting legacy it doesn't matter, I'm sure Roman can see this and understand. So what if Mourinho only stays for 2 to 3 years, he proved last time out that the team he built and the mentality he gave them that it built a lasting legacy which is now coming to an end. I think people forget that we are a club in transition, every club goes through that, he'll even United have, the difference being is when United done it, the competition was not as fierce as it is now, before there was a top 4 now there's a top 6, which makes it harder to achieve that success year on year, I for one think Mourinho is the perfect fit, if he can continue the legacy and transform the likes of Hazard, KDB, Mata, Oscar etc into World class consistent talents and leaves after 3 years then I'll take that. I totally agree though if we get him, then the whole structure of the club needs to change, I would give Mourinho total control over first team matters, bring in a football minded DOF and keep Emenalo under him as head of youth scouting and development, it would then be up to the DOF to communicate between Emenalo and Mourinho regarding the integration of youth into the first team and decide which players are surplus to requirements or need experience via the loan system etc. because currently we have far too many players out on loan that could be beneficial in our current predicament. This way everyone is happy.
Splint1976
@Desmond - it's because nothing gets past the 3 stooges and none of the coaching staff have direct access to Roman. Running CFC must be like a game of Chinese whispers constantly, with misconstrued messages going up and down the line. The essential meeting whenever Roman is in town should be him, the DOF and the Manager, no-one else, and they discuss football and only football. The administration Board can have their own meetings to discuss business, and business only. The current depletion of the squad and so many loanees has Gourlay's balancing the books written all over it. Well that might be great for his performance analysis, but it's obviously having a big detrimental effect on the team's performances. Gourlay practically has free reign at the moment with no DOF and no permanent manager. That's certainly not right.
BlueABS
@Splint1976 - The big show-stopper with Jose is whether he can work with a DOF, and I mean really work with him. That is he converses with him and has exchanges opinions with him, both work for the betterment of the squad, not against each other, as is Jose's usual modus operandi. Both should embrace regular meetings with Roman, altogether in a room, no Buck, no Guorlay, etc. Talk football, enjoy it, I reckon Roman would love it.
BlueABS
The DOF is there because Roman can't always be there, but he should have a hot-line to Roman at all times and not have to pass through Gourlay or Buck. They are admin men, keep them that way. Jose works with the DOF, not the Press when he wants to talk to Roman.
BlueABS
the most imp thing tat RA needs to learn is PATIENCE (n also some of d fans over here). rome wasnt built in a day n neither was the british empire... RA wants want us to play lik barca but he doesnt understand tat the project at barca was started in the 1980s...... even if he brings in the best manager in the world n the best players in the world, there will be matches & seasons where in chelsea mite not win trophies.... till the time he develops patience chelsea will always be a revolving door for managers
chelsblr
How well would Mourinho had done if he went to Dortmund after Chelsea? Now that would be a real test.
foreign_viewer
@fv - how well would have pep done if he would have coached say liverpool instead of barca??? Now tat would be a real test
chelsblr
We will see what Pep has to offer in a few months wont we? We will see if all the comparisms with Mou is worth it.
3nity
I don't care about Pep. The fact is, Mourinho hasn't done what Klopp did with Dortmund. The type of players that Dortmund have are not Mourinho type of players. The football they play is way better than what Madrid do.
foreign_viewer
Barca before Pep were not hard to beat. They weren't closing down enough. Their passing wasn't as intricate. Goals didn't come as easily. Pep took Barca to a new level the world had never seen before. Just look at what they did to the unsuspecting Manure in the 2009 CL final.
foreign_viewer
Mq. Sahin was injured the majority of 2011 2012 season. So how would he be Abel to play under Mourinho then?
Lakupiippu
pep jst build on the foundation which rijkaard had laid....... n even an average manager will be able to get results out of players lik messi, xavi. inesta n also it helps tat d majority of d barca team is home grown so they know d system lik d back of their hand n also they have been playing along side each other frm sooo long tat they no each other pretty well, so pep didnt hve to work soo much to gel the team, he jst had to integrate only d players he bought (which were very few).... into d system
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