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Yet More Willian Talk

Are we really crazy enough to splurge 35 million on this guy?

Even more so when if, as the tabloid press are inferring, we let him slip through our fingers and join Anzi Makhachkala in the transfer window!

Well one Sunday rag seems to think so, believing that Chelsea will broker a deal to bring the Brazilian, who isn`t a regular in the Brazilian side, to Stamford Bridge, merely because Roman Abramovich is hooked on bringing him to SW6.

Now normally I`d dismiss this as idle gossip but when it comes to my beloved Chelsea, I`m not certain about many things anymore!




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The Journalist

Writer: Merlin Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday February 10 2013

Time: 12:28PM

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sounds like drivel to me..the willain boat has already sailed... this is just lazy tabloid journalism!
JohnnyOz
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10/02/2013 12:34:00

oh here's a strategy we bid 20M for him and if the doesnt work, we wait for another club to buy him at double our valuation and then buy him off them 5 months later?? really? dont think so..
JohnnyOz
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10/02/2013 12:37:00

Its balderdash, why bid 35m for him? If we want him we would have gotten him, but just like hulk he have gone into obscurity, now I don't see him making the team in 2014 except if anzhi qualifies for the UCL and give good account of themselves.
Desmondadonis
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10/02/2013 13:14:00

I like him but i dont see the need for him as we have KDB and Piazon. What we need is a direct winger like Moses with pace & crazy driblling skills to provide width and tear defenders apart. Willian is not that type of player. James Rodriguez comes to mind. I want us to get Rodriguez before Sir Alex gets him and turn him to another CR7, even if it means sending Marin and Yossi the other way.
SameX
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10/02/2013 13:27:00

@samex, I won't doubt the quality of james rodriguez, but doing business with porto? For a young player in the mould of james rodriguez? Porto will have almost 50m in his release clause, those thieving coyotes!! Besides we need to turn hazard/moses into ronaldo type of players before we can buy and turn this lad into one, how many world class players have we developed in the last 5 years?
Desmondadonis
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10/02/2013 14:04:00

Lazy journalism at its best!!!....where is the 'dislike' button?
Ken4CFC
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10/02/2013 15:02:00

@ Desmondadonis. U are spot on with Porto's description. Will rather trade with the devil for some of his demons b4 seating on a table with d prsdnt of porto.
Dwonder
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10/02/2013 15:06:00

@desmond Hazard and Moses can not do it alone all season. Btw, do you know we agreed a pre-contract for Lazar and completed the signing of Cuevas.
SameX
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10/02/2013 19:47:00

Signing Cuevas means we have lost hope in Josh.
SameX
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10/02/2013 19:50:00

@Desmond..spot on description of Porto and Pinto Da Costa. Anyway this whole willian stuff has to be lazy journalism at its worst. Even our board guys are simply not that inept. Who does this..try to buy from Anzhi after they have spent a fortune on a badly over valued player..no thanks...that boat has long sailed..just like the Hulk one.
GabeU
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11/02/2013 02:08:00

Crazy people working for some Journals here...clearly mocking Roman as a businessman....Just leave these news aside....Heard that we have a pre-contract for Markovic...dont want us to spoil one persons future...Desperately need manager who will groom the talents we have and alsoo dont compromise our top 4 chances next year.
Blu_run
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11/02/2013 05:26:00

Makes sense if you ask me. Take Hazard out and we have no "top" wingers available, we need that extra attacking impetus. Can't have Ramires play on the wings always, and definitely can't rely on Moses if we are to achieve something significant next season
@Mq
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11/02/2013 06:52:00

Our struggles this season with the players we have definitely necessitates we get "top" quality additions next season
@Mq
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11/02/2013 06:53:00

@mq,what are u smoking?? Willian for 35mil makes sense??..guess u are just jokin,so lets laugh it off.hahaha..
Ken4CFC
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11/02/2013 07:04:00

rather than wasting 35 million for william... its bettter i would play malouda...william is not worth 15 million also...he s an average brazillian player who shaktar made us look the next big thing...he is just an average player just plain average..
shlok27
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11/02/2013 07:53:00

LoL my goodness KEN apologies I thought it was 25Mill LoL
@Mq
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11/02/2013 08:29:00

I get that 25Mill is a "stretch" but we do need more "depth" especially on the wingers, as these are the people that help either 1) to counter attack effectively like ManUre or 2) to help break down "bus parkers"....ManUre has proven over and over how successful they are because of wing-play (although this season it's all RVP) and we've seen our shortcomings from the wingers (take Hazard out and you've basically "killed" our width) so we do need a winger, a "starting" winger @ that (not "sub quality" like Moses)
@Mq
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11/02/2013 08:32:00

@mq,yea maybe we do need a winger because i can only count hazard and moses(marin not there yet)as our only reliable wingers..a winger of willian's quality would do but only if the price is right(19m 4 me),or better still we look inward,we have a KDB who is equally as fantastic on the wing as he is in the middle...but on a 2nd thought,i dont think we should be obsessed with wingers because manure do,we should bring them in only to offer us options ala plan A,B or C..the difference between us and manure is not wingers but strikers(RVP has made the difference)..
Ken4CFC
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11/02/2013 09:11:00

And hey!moses is not a 'sub quality' winger,he is a "fine quality" winger..he doesnt have to be a brazilian and bought 45m for u to acknowledge the lad is a great player in the making..did u watch any Nigeria game at the afcon??
Ken4CFC
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11/02/2013 09:20:00

while I agree KEN Man$hitty have strikers but are "garbage" (if you consider the cost/benefit factor) so perhaps it's a mix of that too. Reason for wingers is they help create spaces by opening the width of the pitch, especially for strikers to take advantage of it.
@Mq
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11/02/2013 09:40:00

I've done any "analysis" (of some sort) and I've drawn the conclusion that every successful team has brilliant wingers/ players on the wings, Barca (Alves & Pedro @ RW, Alba & Villa/Sanchez @ LW) Madrid last season (Ronaldo at LW, Di Maria/Higuain/Benzema at RW) Bayern (Ribery at RW, Robben at LW) ManUre (Valencia/Nani at LW, Young/Giggs/Welbeck at RW) even Porto had Hulk (now Rodriguez) playing on the wings. Man$hitty benefited largely from ManUre "losing" the title last season than them actually "winning" it hence the only "anomaly". Even we had wingers (Joe Cole, Robben, Duff, SWP, Kalou, Malouda) in our "hey days" and evidently we struggling now. A winning team "needs" top class wingers, otherwise you can't sustain that (look @ Man$hitty now)
@Mq
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11/02/2013 09:40:00

what we need is a defensive midfielder ... , hw abt axel witsel ??
haji ahmed
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11/02/2013 09:41:00

my "problem" with Moses is, while he was outstanding in AFCON he hasn't done enough for Chelsea this season. Perhaps that we are in "transition" will blanket his deficiencies, otherwise you wouldn't see ManUre or Man$hitty buy Moses unless he's to be an impact sub, yet we bought him without a RW starting player. He'd hardly start for any other top club (except the Carling Cup) to be honest....no offense
@Mq
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11/02/2013 09:43:00

Mq,the problem at $hitty is quite complicated,i thought the squad they had last year was good enough to challenge/retain the trophy this year only to see mancini makin questionable decisions in the summer transfer window,allowin better players go and bringin in mediocres,how do we explain decisions like dejong out-rodwell in,johnson out-sinclair in,maicon in(rubbish!!thank goodness we didnt buy him),garcia(too inconsistent),nastasic(quite decent,relegated lescot to the bench)..the point is mancini just bought 4 'buyin sake' he bought coz his rivals were buyin and in so doin he weakened the team instead of strengthenin it..
Ken4CFC
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11/02/2013 10:17:00

Ben Arfa anyone?...i am sure we actually need him but he has improved a lot...he might be fantastic for us at RW....and i dont think he'll be more than 15-18m..or am I wrong?
layorh12
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11/02/2013 10:35:00

Yea,successful teams have brilliant wingers/players on d wings and we cant say we dont have ours either(cole & hazard/KDB @LW,azpi &moses/new winger @RW),with 4 good wingers we are fine,the days of FFP are close,we cant keep spendin crazy money like there is no tommorrow,then we should concentrate on other areas like the CF,CM,DM and GK...like u know we are in transition and moses has not badly for a player in his 1st season at a topclub(infact we miss him most in the 1month or so)..he has shown his maturity at the afcon and his level improvement with us has been immense,hopefully he would come back a better and stronger player..do we really have to do everything $hitty and manure do? if other top clubs cant buy moses and we did then its our gain and their loss..
Ken4CFC
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11/02/2013 10:35:00

Yea,successful teams have brilliant wingers/players on d wings and we cant say we dont have ours either(cole & hazard/KDB @LW,azpi &moses/new winger @RW),with 4 good wingers we are fine,the days of FFP are close,we cant keep spendin crazy money like there is no tommorrow,then we should concentrate on other areas like the CF,CM,DM and GK...like u know we are in transition and moses has not badly for a player in his 1st season at a topclub(infact we miss him most in the 1month or so)..he has shown his maturity at the afcon and his level improvement with us has been immense,hopefully he would come back a better and stronger player..do we really have to do everything $hitty and manure do? if other top clubs cant buy moses and we did then its our gain and their loss..
Ken4CFC
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11/02/2013 10:40:00

sorry for the typo earlier....Ben Arfa anyone?...i am NOT sure we actually need him but he has improved a lot...he might be fantastic for us at RW and'll provide good competition for moses....and i dont think he'll be more than 15-18m..or am I wrong?
layorh12
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11/02/2013 10:43:00

There are top wingers who are far cheaper than willian and victor is one of them
Ken4CFC
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11/02/2013 10:46:00

for 25Mil I'd have to agree with you KEN it's a lot of money for a player who isn't in the top20 players in Europe
@Mq
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11/02/2013 13:14:00

@Layorh Ben Arfa is a quality player, I see Iniesta in him whenever I watch him but i think he is more of a CAM like Mata. Just get sell Marin,Yossi,Malouda,Torres and use the cash to land Rodriguez. With Hazard, KDB, Rodriguez & Moses on the wings and Mata, Oscar as CAMs we will easilly challenge for the title next season.
SameX
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11/02/2013 14:51:00

Btw, Benat has a 20m Euros release clause and Real Betis don't want to renew his contract. I think we should activate his release clause and land him especially if Lamps goes. Benat, Mikel, Josh, Rami and Romeu will be perfect for our pivot throughout next season. Chalobah should be allowed to develop more with Zola.
SameX
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11/02/2013 14:57:00

As far as CF is concerned I think we are Okay with Ba and Lukaku but I fear Roman wants Falcao and we may include Courtois in the deal to get him. Lukaku will be angry and will go out on loan again leaving us with Ba and Falcao and Lazar may be given some game time considering his price tag and the fact that he has been exposed to first team footie in his previous club. Ba, Falcao & Lazar does not sound bad tbh.
SameX
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11/02/2013 15:03:00

As far as our defence is concerned I think we are okay. Cole, Ryan & PVA @LB,,, Azpi, Wallace & Kalas @RB and Iva, Luiz, Omerou, Cahill and Terry @CB. PVA, Kalas and Omerou may get limited game time so they may be loaned to EPL sides that are shaky in defence to enhance their development.
SameX
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11/02/2013 15:08:00

Yea@mq,he is not even in the top30,we should that money to get a cheaper winger and address other pressing problem areas like CF,CM,DM,and GK(backup)..hopefully the outflux of players like malouda,yossi,hilario,turnbul,fereira,lampard(uncertain) and torres(uncertain) in the summer would generate a few cash and create space for the youngsters like kalas,josh,kdb,courtois,piazon e.t.c to be properly integrated(though the board might have other plans)..
Ken4CFC
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11/02/2013 15:37:00

@samex, mate I'll rather do a deal with a pirate than porto, rodriguez is 21 and have been one of the exciting youngsters this season, he has 7 goals which is not bad for a winger, moses is also 22 he has 6 goals and was bought for 9m, how much do u think that thief would sell a 21 year old rodriguez? Atleast 35m, when he is aiming at selling Hulk for us for a cut throat price of almost 45m for an average player!!! My God!!!
Desmondadonis
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11/02/2013 15:52:00

A waste of 35m. He's an 8m player.
foreign_viewer
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11/02/2013 18:04:00

Guys isnt Willian more of a number 10 rather than winger?? Anyways, lets not go there. I also disagree that a winger is not a priorty. Beefing up the midfield should be and working out a replacement for lampard if he indeed goes. Mikel, Romeu, Ramires, is not enough. Not sure where Josh fits in there and whether KDB would fit as a deep player either.. Then we also need to work out our strikers for next year. Lukaku in the squad is must, as is Ba. Hazard/Moses as our starting wingers with Marin as back up, ot forgetting we have fill in players that can play wing if needed in Mata & Ramires. Depth there i better than in the middle.
BlueKiwi
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11/02/2013 22:00:00

With FFP and us not going to receive as much from champs league I think 35 mil for willian is fantasy stuff.
BlueKiwi
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11/02/2013 22:01:00

SAF is very successful in discovering wingers...Lets focus more on their scouts...we will get atleast 1 or 2 of their targets.
Blu_run
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12/02/2013 08:55:00

I wonder why chelsea is always there in the media even after the player in question just signed for another team
Kendemsblue
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13/02/2013 10:09:00

 

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