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Reassurance Needed!

Last night I had a troubled nights sleep.

I`d just watched Spurs grab a last-ditch win at West Ham, through a 90th minute goal from Gareth Bale. It was a goal that was celebrated by manic scenes with the Welshman running to the bench and embracing his manager, a certain Andre Villas-Boas.

Now, many will recall that it was about this time of the year that Andre Villas-Boas was shown the door at Chelsea Football Club, with someone decreeing that the PROJECT he`d been brought in to steer was faltering badly and action had to be taken.

But, with Rafa Benitez steering the good ship away from the top four and with Andre Villas-Boas staring down at his old charges, somebody please reassure me we didn`t make one huge mistake sacking him?




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Writer: Merlin Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday February 26 2013

Time: 1:03PM

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Mistake? No. If we hadent sacked him then it would been, No Champions league, no fa cup, No Hazard, Oscar would have gone to spurs
Lakupiippu
Merlin baby, Chelsea made a massive mistake. AVB has cultivated a group bond, with a strong winning mentality. Marca listed him as one of the candidates for the Real Madrid job!
Tactically Challenge
Considering the targets he identified under us, his 3 years project, I would have said we made a mistake sacking him, but the truth is we got him at the wrong time, if we have this squad before we hired him, we would be the one reaping the dividends by now, basically we used ourselves as stepping stones to gain him experience and perhaps further his career, but not to worry merlin, a michael laudrup can be worth a shout . Kindly post my article on that note pls
Desmondadonis
I don't know if you did or didn't but by my calculations the PL will end up With: UTD Champions City 77 points second Spurs 74 points 3rd Arsenal 66 points 4th Chelsea 64 points 5th Sacking AVB was probably not the problem, You should have stuck with RDM.
4everaspur
www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2013/02/26/3781055/real-madrid-want-swansea-boss-laudrup-insists-toshack?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Desmondadonis
I think AvB has learnt a lot from his Chelsea experience. Trusting in his players for one and letting them express themselves is paying big dividends. He didn't seem to do this for you. At the time it was the right decision because RDM won you the CL and FA cup so its not about that now as Abrahmovic was vindicated. The Chelsea Managers job now is even more of a poison chalice than taking the England job. No manager will ever be given enough time
arpant
The thing is, our expectation are higher than spud we should be contesting winning the title rather than struggling to finish top four, the problem is now the limitations of top managers available to us. I for one thought he should be given a chance, even though I can’t stand him, but now I hate him even more and wish he would just leave, the thing is now Roman should eat humble pie and get Jose back as I think he the only top manager left that would be brave enough to come and get the respect of the players, fans and Roman. Please please come back Jose and please please go Rafa. Before I hate you even more
fitzy-carefree
By the it Rafa i hate not AVB..
fitzy-carefree
From a rival fan, I think 4everaspur got it spot on! With RDM, we would be 2nd on the table now, the game against manure with the cards and clattenburg took wind of his sail, we would have gathered up momentum if we stuck with him. Thankz to torres he got sacked
Desmondadonis
fitzy-carefree ..... your post sounds like a little child pleading for daddy to get him a new toy. Chelsea should by now be able to stand on their own 2 feet without having to get presents from daddy every year.
4everaspur
it was one of the biggest mistake roman has done...avb was one of the best coach and he had a great project for chelsea...which in future could have turned in one of the best...but this timing of appointment went wrong...had he had been appointed this year things woulh have been different...but last season because of some senior players revolt he had to face the sack...roman should had done the vice versa at that time...yaa we have won cl after his departure but we have to pay a big price for it this season...spurs are lucky that they have got a good talented young coach who with right backing and money will take them further higher....chelsea loss is someone gain...
shlok27
4everspuds , if only you had a daddy like our. nevermind
fitzy-carefree
Roman has made the job a poison chalice. Also the way he is treating Lampard is wrong he pays huge wages to average players but won't give a loyal servant of your club a contract extension when it's clear he still has a lot to offer. He should have kept RDM at least till the end of the season IMO it was the least he deserved after last season. Hope Mourinho doesn't go back as he deserves better
hotspur65
Fitzy your embarrassing yourself now how old are you. Don't want to be rude if your under 10. You are everything that is wrong with modern football supporters you sound like a typical glory hunting little scrot your embarrassing proper Chelsea fans with your assinine comments
hotspur65
heard it al before zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!
fitzy-carefree
for chelsea to get a better long term manager is difficult...because roman has made it difficult for us...first avb gone then he made another mistake by sacking rdm and third one of appointing rafa is not a mistake its a doomday with torres the nuclear bomb already in our team...roman has to get his board in place in order to appoint a good manager without proper intellegent footballing knowledge board who knows each and everthing about football inside out...bringing stabality is impossible at chelsea...so chelsea has to start from top if its really thinking about a bright stable chelsea future...
shlok27
fitzy-carefree, I don't need a Daddy like yours because I support a Real big club that spends its own money not a wanna be big club that has to use somebody elses money to make them look something they are not and never will be.
4everaspur
4everaspur, you need to wind your neck in son. Spurs will not be 2nd, we will not get 74 points. You are embarassing yourself and our club, so be quiet and let the grown ups talk. im sure chelsea will be top 4, too good a squad not to. This sunday will have a huge baring on who joins them, the winner will be in the box seat. It will go down to the wire no doubt.
jimmy-yid
jimmy-yid, thank you very much.
foreign_viewer
Jimmy-yid it is obvious by your comment that you have not got the intelligence to realise I am winding up the child like fitzy due to his previous infantile comments. As for "wind your neck in son", you have no idea as to my age or status in life, and if you had bothered to read my post correctly you would have noted I said we would be 3rd with 74 points. Do you disagree that we will be third or that we will not get 74 points?
4everaspur
the spuds were the perfect place for avb. organic club...young side...good owner and chair with patience and vision. he sucked with us so he could be great with them...he came to cfc to learn...to benefit the spuds...he was here and was shunning the club seniors....he got there and respected the club seniors like defoe and freidel...he was inflexible with us...and is flexible with them...i was happy when he got the sack coz i luv rdm....but i knew he had massive potential...manure will poach him from the spuds to take on fergies role...
Gian-Franco/Luca
Sacking Ancelotti was Romans first mistake sacking AVB was what has brought CFC to the current situation we are in. Who's to say we still wouldn't have won the Champions league with AVB? Even if we crashed out of the top 4, with this current lot, under AVB we would be challenging for the title or at least top 2 because many of players we bought fit the AVB project profile. Big big mistake which Roman will be DEFINITELY REGRETTING.
traykidd
Honestly Merlin the last few years have been a catalog of errors and poor decision making and Roman has continued to ride his luck..he mistook good fortune for license and actually thought that the success we were enjoying was because of his poor decision making rather than in spite of it. As far as AVB, i blame his demise equally on our "wonderful board" and some poor decisions he made which i chalk up to inexperience. Roman hired him to begin a revolution, Emenalo made the right call and advised him to clear the Aegean stables as he came in (much like Pep did when he took over from Rijkaard), the rest of the board advised otherwise and AVB made the fatal mistake of going with the rest of the board and persisting with a veteran group that were well past their due date. He then compounded his error by insisting on trying to teach old Lions new tricks and then when that did not work he publicly berated the non conformers in the media forgetting that these senior players had been there long before he came and had won way more than he ever had..the rest was history we know. As bad as that debacle was i have no ill will towards AVB and i am glad the guy is doing well with Spurs..it is obvious he has become a better manager for what he learnt at Chelsea. The absolute most disastrous mistake of Roman's Littany of errors however was the double whammy of sacking RDM in the most classless way possible (imagine the crassness it takes to fire a man at 4am while he is enroute from Turin to England back from a game the team had just lost...not even waiting for the day to dawn, to sleep over it, to allow raw emotions calm..treating a guy who bled for Chelsea as a player, broke his leg playing for this team ending his playing career, got us two major trophies barely months ago and was being paid peanuts relatively for the thankless job of Chelsea manager) and then capping of the madness by appointing Rafa on the say so of Emenalo. Honestly i think Roman is presently in a state of introspection..the old Roman would have sacked Rafa weeks, maybe months ago based on performance results (or lack thereof) knowing his well established trigger happy nature but i really do think now he is in a major pickle because much as he may want to sack Rafa he probably realizes he has no great options for replacement and he may be fearing that another rash decision may literally move us from the hot frying pan we are in right now straight into the open fire. Besides Roman knows sacking Rafa now is a clear as daylight admission that he got it absolutely wrong sacking RDM in the first place. It certainly will not paint him in great light having to sack a second manager within one season..it is one thing to be known as Ruthless Roman but multiple manager sackings in one season could well move Roman in the public eye to the realm of clowns like the owners of Palermo, Sampdoria, Wolves, Blackburn and Birmingham City who have turned multi manager sackings into a bizarre art form.
GabeU
It is a disaster waiting to happen ; A Russain Gangster + A bunch of overpaid egos + A Fat Spanish waiter = "@%@&#$ !!! Oh Happy days. What goes aroubd comes around. And in the not-too-distant future, when R A says ' enough-ie -enough and takes his ' TOYS' home with him, you'll back where you belong scratching for ' scraps' to stay inh the PL HA HA HA HEE HEE
killineyspur
4everaspur, the fact is without Bale your team is average. He has carried Spurs on his own with individual goals.
foreign_viewer
anyway spuds were a good side b4 avb...redknapp allowed the disgusting gunners to close the gap as he was not using defoe well and rotating the squad effectively...but hey i luv my club...i believe in the players...it is just the owner...
Gian-Franco/Luca
i also think we got rid of AVB far too quickly, even if on the other hand got us the champions league. if you look at the squad of spurs compared to ours he proves he certainly is capable of creating a winning formula. but i don't think this is our problem, it just is the sacking of managers without anyone being given a reasonable time to achieve anything. looking at the results, compared to most of his predecessors rafa should be sacked straight away. if we continue this hiring anf firing one day no-one will ever want to manage cfc as long as roman is the owner.
HaraldBlue
Is the season finished? Are Spurs playing in the CL? Will they beat Arsenal to top 4? Will Bale not go to Madrid?
foreign_viewer
killney spud or whatever...learn to humble...remember what cockiness got you last year...
Gian-Franco/Luca
foreign_viewer the fact is without the russians or somebody elses money your beloved Chelsea are a yo yo club bouncing from the prem to the championship every year or two.
4everaspur
Is the season finished? ...no Will they beat Arsenal to top 4?......yes Will Chelsea get into the top 4? ....No but they will get 5th which is an improvement on their league position of last season.
4everaspur
I think AVB learnt some thing from his Chelsea experience and we have not learned anything from it. For us still player power is causing the issue. I hate Rafa but still we need a Special one to save us from this mess.
itsmejvk
lol dont worry 4everaspur, jimmy da tulip is still licking his wounds after AVB keeps hurting his football ego... Hey jimmy should we not be in 7th or something by now? did u not predict the downfall of Spurs under AVB??? fitzy "The thing is, our expectation are higher than spud we should be contesting winning the title rather than struggling to finish top four" lol i actually can't contain myself after laughing so hard! Chelsea fc are expected to A: Pay over the odds for avg players... B: Sack their manager C: Embarrass themselves by mocking the football world at least twice in a season and D: finish in the league where u phucking deserve to!
Mix26
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2284474/Rafael-Benitez-training-ground-bust-Chelsea-players-Manchester-City-defeat.html
ElMagicoNino
Say what you want but Benitez does have a point there
ElMagicoNino
@mix26...i remember vividly at the end of last season you lot were the ones who lost out so please wait for the season to end before u start kicking us.
debruyne
If you look at the two squads the team in Third have a weaker one with much less attacking options then the team in fourth. But the lack of unity and poor tactical desicions have cost Chelsea. Roman's big mistake is backing his big money ego signings instead of his managers and the rest of his squad. His treatment of AVB firstly and then RDM was disgraceful. The appointment of Rafa was just disrespectful and bizarre. Sunday could effectively put Arsenal out of the race and leave third and fourth a straight shoot out between Chelsea and us or a Gunners win will bring them back into the mix. Either way of the three london teams fighting it out, arsenal are in the worst shape and I think this will see them finish outside the top four for the first time in 15 years! Chelsea should be too strong despite Benitez. AVB has proved with Spurs what we knew all along that he is a very good and tactically astute coach. Spurs for third!
Slurms McKenzie
Winning and momentum make a big difference (the difference right now between us and the Spurs) but watching a team embrace...literally (hugging) their manager last night after Bale's wonder strike, was depressing. Our guys would have done that (running off the field to hug their manager) with RDM. But Benitez?!?!?!? No way in hell!
Squig
Amazing how we had problems last season and managed to win the FA Cup and UCL(May I remind you the first and only team in london to),we've also had our share of problems this season,trashed you at the lane and are 4th on the table. Amazingly your best achievement in a long time is battling for 3rd spot. Class apart mates!
nelyvanile
As regards the comments about chelsea just being a new money club - thats just BS any premier league club would kill to have the finacial resources that Chelsea have and as a Spurs fan having an owner/chairman who will actually buy players that are needed would be a god send! Although I don't evvy your owner who thinks he can pick the team or the players that are needed and insist they are played no matter what! Lastly what choice do you have as a supporter if the club you have followed all your life is bought by a Russian Billionaire (with possibly a shady past) but to keep supporting your team, enjoy the rollercoaster and hope it doesn't end in finacial ruin in League 2!
Slurms McKenzie
debruyne it's a fact we missed out on "4th" spot as we were knocked out of the CL due to u winning the the CL. Chelsea were lucky to win it-fact... The only harm u did Spurs was the fact we could not attract a top striker due to no CL-Fact. That's all over and Spurs have reacted remarkably despite the media,pundits and idiots like jimmy yid (our own fans) slating the changes we undertook. We lost "Modric" and VDV and gained AVB... Lets just say the greatest gift Chelsea could have ever handed Spurs! The point is we are a very good young squad which is improving week in, week out! We are a stronger unit due to that "lost out" moment and more importantly we are better than Chelsea and Arsenal. Make no mistake Spurs are hungry to compete for titles and we will compete regardless of the blood money ur gangster owner comes up with every season.
Mix26
As for the AVB debacle...AVB is a pretty good manager and like I said before,its not coincidence he got the best out of Hulk,Sturridge and now Bale. The timing to manage Chelsea was basically wrong,he tried to do too much at once and it obviously back fired on him. Lessons learnt,and its made him a better man manager at Spurs. The real mistake made by our owner/board was sacking RDM,and employing Rafa...Its a downright battle for top 4 and the next 2-3 weeks will give us a good idea where the momentum swings. Tbh Spurs have been the most consistent of the 3 London sides.
nelyvanile
lol nelyvanile u sound like a liverfool fan... Our greatest achievements blah blah blah! It's Tuesday the 26th of Feb 2013 mate...
Mix26
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2284474/Rafael-Benitez-training-ground-bust-Chelsea-players-Manchester-City-defeat.html ElMagicoNino........Wow, sounds true to me! It's been obvious for a long time our guys are not playing for Benitez. Which doesn't excuse them....they are well-paid professionals who should be playing for their pride, club and fans so you're right, ElMagico...Benitez does have a point but it irks them to hear it from him particularly.
Squig
lol im actually dumbfounded how Chelsea fans claim that it was AVB's fault he got sacked! How many managers does RA need to fire before you realise the real root of the problem? How on earth does he firm RDM after winning 2 of the biggest prizes in football??? U gotta be a real (unt to do what he did to RDM. Im sorry but RA is solely responsible for the AVB debacle...
Mix26
@mix26...i remember vividly at the end of last season you lot were the ones who lost out so please wait for the season to end before u start kicking us.
debruyne
@Mix26...I agree about Roman...Ruskie Buffoon El Grande...he, more than anyone else is responsible for our current problems with more 'little buffoons' running around in his boardroom.
Squig
sorry for posting again....
debruyne
@Squig and @Elmagico. It was imminent and obviously going to happen. The players obviously don't rate him and must be freaking *****ed off by his tactical approach. They do need to put in a top shift whenever they are on the pitch but its hard to stay motivated when you don't rate your manager. Let's hope something gives and we start seeing better performance from the lads.
nelyvanile
mix36 all am saying is dont rush for what you don't have yet or better still might not get at all. whatever happens we are CHELSEA, we never go down without a fight. at the end of the day if we don't make top 4 rest assured we will come back stronger next season...we win and we are winners, we lose and we are still winners.......CAREFREE!
debruyne
@Mix. Oh do i? That's not too bad ei, its probably a language you won't understand...A language only European Champions speak.
nelyvanile
Take Bale out of Spurs and you have a top 6 side, put a Drogba into the Chelsea and we`d have won in Monaco, Tokyo and be 2nd in the league. Drogba carried us for years, our problems are completely down to Roman and Emenalo, until we allow a manager to manage and choose his own players, we will slip back even further. If Jose does not return next year we won`t be back in a Champions League for years. The only current player that would get into Jose`s 2005 side is Mata. Emenalo is clueless and a team of show ponies that he has brought in, who won`t chase back are doomed. Emenalo has a lot to answer for.
Blueheart9
We thrash you in the FA Cup semi final last year, we again humiliated you once more at our 3 points lane earlier in the season. Happy memory. Cant wait to beat you again at the Bridge. And beware of AVB, he is clueless. Remember how you lots booed him earlier this season?You will get back to that I tell you
Gaban
Merlin - Spurs fan here, I come in peace. Ignore the idiot spurs "fans" that come here to gloat at your current predicament and are not capable of sensible and constructive discussion. As for you question, yes, sacking AVB was a huge mistake. Here is a copy and paste of post I made recently on another Chelsea thread....... I really don't understand Roman's impatience and intolerance with managers, hiring and firing every 5 minutes. Since our manager is one of your ex managers I thought I would say a few words about AVB. I think most people outside of Chelsea feel he was treated unfairly, he was brought in to build a young team capable of competing at the highest level. When the older players realized the writing was on the wall for them they rebelled. Instead of Roman backing AVB for doing the job he hired him for, he got cold feet and sacked him !! Whether or not you guys like to admit it, he is doing a fantastic job at spurs, did any of you watching the game tonight see the way all the players mobbed him when the third goal went in? They love him, and he loves the players, the spirit is tremendous, that's one of the things that makes a winning team. The other thing is having the ability as a manager to use the players to their strengths so that they gel as a team. It seems to me that those two things are missing at Chelsea right now. Talented squad of players but no team spirit and they're not gelling as a team. If AVB had stayed at Chelsea, it's true you may not have won the CL, AT THAT TIME, but I think with Roman's backing he would have worked wonders at Chelsea. It just needed patience on Roman's part, something he seems very short of. He was hired at spurs to build a team capable of winning trophies, including the PL, it won't happen overnight, he will be given ample time which is how it should be. He's made a pretty good start so far considering the spine was ripped out of the team last summer with Modric, VdV leaving and King retiring. The bottom line is that as Chelsea fans, do you want the brief success of last year followed by the current predicament, or would you rather wait a while for the success to come and then have a long period of sustained success? I know which I would prefer. I really think sacking AVB will come back to bite Roman in the bum.
Hot_Spur
Serious amount of childish craap coming from the yid brigade . Go and comment your ***** somewhere else ,your embarrising ur fellow fans and club. Spurs have a decent season thanks to Bale and they think there a bigger club than the Chels ? Have some respect you tools and come back here when you's win something . Your a small little selling club and will never challenge for the Prem ...EVER . Tell me how your success in the PL makes you justify your comments ??? Anyone of you got an answer ??? We were winnin cups regurly from 95 onwards , where the ***** were your lot then ??? Even b4 Romans money we were knockin on the door you muppets .....grrrrr
ZolaIsALegend
ZolaIsALegend - You are exactly on the same level as the idiot spurs fans I referred to in my post above. Constructive discussion from rival fans is good, it gives a point of view from a neutral perspective. Hence my post above, I don't come here to gloat or make insulting and derogatory comments about Chelsea fans, why do you consider it necessary to slate me?
Hot_Spur
4everaspur. I disagree as I think we can hope for 71pts which is enough for 4th place, behind Chelski 75, above Asenal on 69. That is taking into account a draw v Arsnal and a defeat at Chelski. Draw at home to Citeh. Citeh and Chelski squads too good in the games they have left to drop too many points.
CoysRus
hahahaha - love it Zolaislegend! **** the spuds fans - stay in your lane, literarily and metaphorically, your comments aint welcome here...rubbish
JohnnyOz
Player for player are Spurs better than Chelsea? No way. Spurs are a one man team, Bale.
foreign_viewer
roman knows that he had made a big mistake by sacking avb...because he personally choose him for chelsea by paying 13 million for him...roman knew that avb was the right person to take chelsea forward and his project of bringing young talented players was on the right cause but one big mistake of roman by taking his players side who were against avb and not backing his manager whom he personally choose cost him big time....rather than backing his manager he supported the wrong person who were involed in dressing room politics....roman must be regretting that mistake big time now...thats why he made sure that whoever were involved in that revolt against avb will be shown the door...
shlok27
ZolaisaL, just for the record and balance, we can remind you we won MAJOR trophies in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. We have a HISTORY. Where were you lot then when you didn't have money, just like us now, and then ???
CoysRus
Well there are SOME Chelsea fans intelligent enough to have constructive discussions, unfortunately others only seek to abuse. Well done those people, you're intelligence and comments are truly genius.
Hot_Spur
Spurs have one trophy in this century.
foreign_viewer
sholk27 - I suspect that's why he won't renew Lampard's contract. He was the leader of the revolt against AVB and I suspect Roman resents him for that.
Hot_Spur
hot spurs....you are right thats why lamps is not getting contract extension...he along with few others were there in that revolt...and thats why roman is now taking that grudge by not giving contracts to whom he felt were rightly involved in avb sacking...
shlok27
foreign_viewer - grow up son, how old are you? There are plenty of counter arguments to your comments, spurs are above you in the PL, spurs beat WH last night, Chelsea lost to WH, etc, etc. If you can't say anything sensible then don't say anything at all.
Hot_Spur
hot spurs.....roman knew that in future he doesnt wanna spend big thats why he choose avb...because avb has an eye for talents and he also know that avb can get the best of each and everyone..thats why avb wanted to play young players but he was there at wrong time because he was surrounded by all seniors players with lots of egos in them....but before he could fulfill his wish here he got clashed with some senior player ego...which was enough for them to make sure that get rid of him...avb was perfect for this chelsea team young full of talent they would have loved him and we could have been in good position but sadly things never happen as you wish...avb is a good manager and he has the potential to be a great...never wanted him to get sack here but the ship has sailed now...
shlok27
^^^troll alert...guys..ignore!
layorh12
@hotspur, did u remember what I said at the beginning of the season? I said u have to be wary of AVB that he might be good and might be bad, I also said he'll sign u guys some good players, fast forward he is doing so now, though the season aint over, anything can still happen between the 3 london clubs, what I am worried about is that come next season if u don't sell too much, u'll be stronger and the points more difficult to amass, that is when u get that elusive no.10 and a striker which I am sure AVB have already identified. Congrats to u guys but we'll always be up there. With or without roman.
Desmondadonis
Coysrus you sound like a liverpool supporter bangin on about the 50's or 60s . Since the prem began youve won an fa cup over 20years ago and a couple of coca cola cups so get a grip of yourselves .
ZolaIsALegend
Hotspur you sound like a reasonable bloke so i exclude you from my anger ...
ZolaIsALegend
Merlin - back on topic, no RA did not make the biggest mistake in sacking AVB, his biggest mistake was sacking RDM and the way he did it. That will have cut deep with the players, let alone us as fans. It was crass, knee-jerk and premature. We are now paying the price in the short term and certainly long-term, RA needs seriously to get some seriously good advice, and that starts with the appointment of the right DOF. By right, I mean someone he will listen to when told he is being stupid, and someone who can steer the footballing management and structure of the Club to a more even keel. This someone has to replace the advice he is currently getting which has been atrocious in the last few years.
BlueABS
That advisor cannot be the manager, it has to be a DOF, purely because of the way RA seems to work and think. That DOF should be in place now, he needs to stop listening to the 3 amigos.
BlueABS
ZolaIsALegend - Your comment noted, I accept. I'm always reasonable, as I've said before, I am a football fan, I don't hate Chelsea, or Arsenal, or any other team. I like sensible discussion whether it's with spurs fans or rival team fans. People seem to forget that initially we are fans because we like football, no team/club is bigger than the game itself and a fan's favourite team exists because of football, not the other way round. i.e. football comes first, clubs come second !!
Hot_Spur
Alot of interesting views here by Chelsea and some 'reasonable' spurs fans alike. More than anything, i subscribe wholly to GabeU's opinion and can safely add that swallowing a good chump of humble pie and reappointing RDM might just be the tonic that can save our season. He, where ever he has been, must have asked himself what actually went wrong,thought very deeply what he could have done differently,and may very well have learnt alot from it,just like AVB. So appointing him will be similar to bring back an improved AVB. And i believe one of the clogs at the wheel of his job then has been fixed,which is extra striking options. Can it be done? Can we have him back? If yes,why not we get him back.
Ohans
Bang on it @BlueAbs. What I've been saying for weeks about our hierarchy. Besides i like AVB and i wanted him to stay,but a lot just didn't fit in at that point in time. The real mistake was letting go of RDM when we did...
nelyvanile
Why are rival fans seeing this and some of our own fans not seeing it or roman? RDM should have been giving a full season at the least and assess him after this season, that would have gone well for both parties
Desmondadonis
Desmond - Yes I'm sure Chelsea's problems will be solved at some point even if it takes a couple of seasons. The problem now though is that Roman has dug himself into a hole, will any top managers want to go to Chelsea now? They will be fearful that they'll be sacked in 5 months if a couple of bad results happen. Roman has to change his ways and convince a top manager that he HAS changed. Times will be interesting for you guys. Regarding your comments on AVB, yes he is doing very well, given time to build his own team, which I'm sure he will get the time, Spurs can be a major force in the PL in a couple of years. Best of luck to you guys getting back on the straight and narrow.
Hot_Spur
I dont really agree that sacking AVB was a big mistake,that will be equivalent of admitting i'd rather not have the big earred cup and not booking a CL place that ultimately paved way for us to land Hazard,Oscar etc... Maybe it was suppose to be a mistake,as he deserved to be back is actually a good coach who would have been great with us,but we moved on quickly and it was long forgotten with RDM doing everything he was unable to do,tactically and man-management wise. The biggest mistake was the failure to give Di Matteo enough chance to build the team while going through the entire learning process. Perhaps it was hoped that the effect of managerial change that brought us the double last season which included the holy grail will reoccur...unfortunately it wasnt to be,and it was further complexed by appointing someone we clearly shouldnt have hired. Thats were the main mistakes lie,imo.
Ohans
Roman should have hired an experienced manager in the first place, not RDM.
foreign_viewer
Oops!! *Typos* he deserved to be backed,he is actually....
Ohans
ONLY 81 DAYS LEFT!http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130519T17&p0=136&msg=Days%20until%20Chelsea%20get%20rid%20of%20the%20muppet%20Benitez&csz=1#
Lakupiippu
I think our objective(s) as a club for that year/season (I doubt we had one) is what can determine if sacking AVB was right or wrong... If our goal was CL or any trophy, then it certainly was the right choice but if it was stability then it was a wrong decision... Though a little more patience with RDM could probably have corrected the wrong and made it a win situation altogether.... The bottom line is that lack of patience is the bane of CFC...
Latunvic
@nelyvanile. The players should be ashamed of themselves. They kiss the badge and hail the fans anytime they have the opportunities to. Why are they not putting the good shift for the fans if they really care about us. Rafa we be gone in the summer but it will CFC that will be out of CL. So RAfa has nothing to lose. it's the players and fans that alot to loss.
jollyheart Torres
letting AVB and Mou go will stand out as 2 of the biggest mistake of Roman. Few fans never gave AVB a chance as well. the future is always more important that the past. the big egos in our team decide who to play for. This will always be our problem. until the coast is clear no coach will survive. Roman have set a very high standard. Believe it or not, his goal is to dominate in Europe and with the players we have he never thought a day will come CFC will be struggling to get into top 4 positions. I am sure he will need a quiet summer to review everything.
jollyheart Torres
It would be nice to have seen what AVB COULD have done, given TIME and FULL backing from the squad (mere speculation here but the evidence is there..). I believe Roman's firm stance on Lamp's situation is punishment because of what transpired. Why else would we let Frank go? And to think Mou will be coming is a pipe dream b/c I cannot see him being okay with Frank leaving.
ForeverChels
I am hoping RA's summer will be anything other than QUIET!!! He needs to get his own act back into gear.
BlueABS
Sacking AVB was not such a BIG Mistake but a bad decision...It was the only thing that could have saved our season...Even this year, he hasnt made Spurs great...They are struggling to beat team if Bale is not firing...They are becoming a one-man show just like RVP-Arsenal combo...They will bottle when they miss him...
Blu_run
yes it was a mistake but I didn't loose any sleep over it.....for their roles in his sacking, Lampard and JT shouldn't be given a new contract
zosBlue
I don't see roman eating the humble pie except as an act of desperation to recall jose, why some fans don't want jose back is bcos they think he'll renew lamps contract, JTs and cole as forever chels have pointed out, but for those that have that assumption, how many times is he starting cavalho? Essien? Atimes he even drops the undropable pepe!! So for me, either of laudrup, mou would suit me, heck anaybody will be better than rafa presently, including grant
Desmondadonis
As for the negative football stuff that jose plays, with some coining it a defensive style, jose must have been overdefensive to beat barca 3-1 on their home turf... We should learn to give credit where its due, the man is very good, the best manger in europe if we are beeing fair
Desmondadonis
@jollyheart. I do agree the players need to take a hard look at themselves in the mirror as well,yes Rafa is screwing things tactically but the lads need to buckle up. The players and fans are the ones that might suffer the fate of not being in the UCL next season. If Rafa cannot be sacked,then he should step back a little and stop trying to do too much by screwing things up with his archaic tactics. Let the players play in their comfort zone and let them express themselves on the pitch like Robbie did. Top 4 is very very important. Robbie took the pressure off the lads and put it on himself,Rafa is taking the pressure off himself and throwing it on the players.
nelyvanile
I believe a big part of AVB sacking was due to the mans body language. might be an 'out there' comment, but his BL was terrible 'SQUATING" 'BITING FINGER NAILS' etc. He wasnt very composed and wasnt a good face during war. I actually saw a photo of him and roman togetyher at cobham. They were chatting and it looked as if though roman was trying to hold in a laugh!
Bain^DoggZ
THOUGH come chelsea spurs, id prefer him over FATMAN
Bain^DoggZ
I think is time Roman go and see the players and remind them who is the boss. kalou confirmed his words has worked magic twice 1 during Carlo reign and second after AVB was sacked and the players always responded. This show he believe so much on the crop of players we have. They just need to buried their egos and play for the badge and the fans.
jollyheart Torres
Blu_run - Spurs are a one man show? Like Arsenal with RvP? Oh, you mean like Chelsea were with Drogba? No team is a "one man show", they all contribute and it's often the case that one player has a good run scoring most of the goals. Earlier in the season it was Defoe scoring all the goals, he is injured and somebody else (Bale) takes over, if Bale gets injured somebody else will step up. We were without Bale for a while earlier when he was injured, we didn't "bottle" as you put it, we still won those game without him. As for AVB "not making spurs great", jeez give the man a chance, considering the spine was ripped out of the team last summer when we lost 3 world class players in Modric, VdV and King I think AVB is doing exceedingly well for his first season with a much weakened squad. It might also be a good idea if you take a look at the league table and see where spurs are :-)
Hot_Spur
Hotspur , Chelsea were a one man team with Drogba ??? Come on now mate ,we had lamps bangin them in every week not to mention the power of Essien ,Ballack and speed and trickery of Robben and Duff to mention but a few !!! Apart from Bale ,what have you's got ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
ZolaIsALegend
Also Hotspur ,you say you lost "3" world class players in modric VdV and King .....WORLD CLASS PLAYERS ?????? Man are you serious ? Modric was a decent player but by no means world class, he's in a world class team now and cant get a game ,what does that tell you eh ? VdV only played when he felt like it and I won't even talk about the "WORLD CLASS" Ledley King ... Your funny though ,i'll give you that . Your also wrong if you feel that when your top scorer is injured that someone else steps up ,if football was that simple than why would we need to "replace" these players when they leave ? With your logic there is gonna be someone else to replace them from the bench r somewhere so you shouldn't worry or even buy a replacement yeah ???
ZolaIsALegend
can you guys stop discussing with this Spurs troll called hotspur and the other DH's....wtf He was never on here when chelsea were winning every game and will disappear as soon as we regain some form. I'm sure the majority of VC fans can realise that the " i come in peace" comment is a mask, they are only here to rub your noses in it (only the daft ones among us will oblige)....i didnt see him on here the day we trashed them 5-1 in the FA cup semi's last season...Rubbish
JohnnyOz
JohnnyOz - Show me where I have "rubbed your noses in it" ?? Any post I have made on here has been sensible and constructive and in no way derogatory to Chelsea football club. Is it beyond you to comprehend that there are people who like to talk about FOOTBALL in general, with both their own and rival fans? I suppose you are one of those who thinks Chelsea FC is bigger than football itself. Football clubs exist because of football, not the other way round and there are people that like to talk football outside of their own club. To take an attitude that you don't want to discuss football with anybody that happens to be a fan of a different team is very small and narrow minded.
Hot_Spur
JohnnyOz - And further, what right do you think you have to tell other people who they should or shouldn't have a discussion with?
Hot_Spur
ZolaIsALegend - Like many rival fans it seems you cannot bring yourself to admit that a player is "world class" unless he is wearing the shirt of the club you support. You're not alone, it's a common trait. Modric is world class and it's untrue that he "cant get a game" at RM. He doest start every game but when he doesn't start he usually appears at some point. If he's no that good why did Chelsea break their neck to try and sign him for 40 million? RM are not getting the best out of Modric, they are playing him out of his best position. If you watched the EC game between Croatia and Spain, Modric dominated the midfield in that game, even with the array of talent Spain have in midfield. Although Croatia lost that game by the odd goal it certainly wasn't any fault of Modric. As for VdV, regardless of your opinion about playing when he "felt like it", he is generally recognise as being world class, not just my opinion, but refer back to my first sentence. Yes Ledley King was world class, his persistent knee injury apart he would have walked straight into any team in Europe, do you watch spurs games regularly? Did you ever see him play other than when spurs played Chelsea?
Hot_Spur
 

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