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That Benitez Outburst - The Editors View!

Waking up this morning, I had no idea of the furore that had occurred last night.

On seeing we`d won 2-0 I slipped up to bed aware I had a busy schedule this morning.

On waking up I turned the television on and heard the outburst made by Rafa Benitez, an outburst that will surely have ramifications.

Now DJDUTTS obviously beat me to the punch on publishing an article about Rafa`s points and DJDUTTS, as is his right, agreed with some of what Rafa said, I, on the other hand, do not.

For Rafa to hide his inadequacies behind a tirade like that is unbelievable and, quite frankly, not acceptable!

Whilst still mulling over what Rafa had said, a good friend of mine - David Johnstone - gave his views on the BBC News, eloquently and accurately purveying the thoughts of many a Chelsea supporter.

In the aftermath of Rafa`s outburst, I`d like to comment on two points.

Firstly, I find it almost humorous that the very point Rafa made about Chelsea fans being passionless, when he was in charge has come back to haunt him as it appears to be the extremely passionate Chelsea travelling support that has an axe to grind with him.

Secondly, for Rafa to bemoan the fact that he was labelled as an interim manager is almost as hilarious. Is he trying to tell us that the contract translation from English to Spanish failed to pick up on this fact, or was he simply blinded by the noughts on his perceived salary and penned it at will?

Rafa, you`ve brought all this on yourself. You took up the challenge when, quite obviously, you were not up to it and any abuse you`ve since received, well that`s your fault as well.

If you thought last night was bad, then I shudder to think, now you`ve slated the true support again, what lies in store for you at Stamford Bridge this Saturday when we play West Bromwich Albion.

Is it purely co0incidental that we tend to dispatch with managers after fixtures against West Brom?




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Writer: Merlin Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday February 28 2013

Time: 4:11PM

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Am listening to a radio program here in nigeria about RBs outburst and some ediot here says chelsea fans has been anti chelsea,I feel like grabbing his throAt now. In all ,I want stability in chelsea because chelsea is my wife,so addicted to this club and I wonder how our players are feeling about all this drama and the role people like lampard and terry are playing in it.
bluesod
He just got this big ego, isnt he? He didnt apologize, he thought he could have won us over by winning trophies (in japan specifically), and now he totally lost the plot. Pathetic. And as for your question Merlin, it is fated, only this time it is for the right reason, a reconciliation for the mistake on the previous one
Gaban
let the funs chant rafa and who looses?is it rafa no ,it will be cfc who will play europa.rafa will go yes but at high cost.i will repeat it again here ,managers have no problem but funs who want deadwoods playing for good. Secondly our team miss fighting spirit due to poor lot of fringe players,that is ,no competition for places.infact the midfd has never had ball playing mdflds.leave rafa alone.
mzee69
The term 'Interim Manager' makes no sense whatsoever, you are either The Manager or not. Anyone taking on the job as interim would know they were going to be replaced at some point. Therefore they would have little commitment to either club or supporters. Which has now come back to bite CFC in the bum.
Since1963
@ Merlin, I greed with your points and to some extent that of DJDUTTS. Appointing Rafa was a massive mistake from Roman and think it was IN YOUR FACE reaction to CPO's who rejected the transfer of SB freehold . As soon as we announced him as interim manager, his position was untenable and weak because the players know he’s not going to be there for that long, why change their style and put a good shift in for him a man most CFC fan hate? Salomon Kalou once said all you need to get a coach sack is few bad results. You can't motivate players if they don’t want to be motivated. Some of the fans have been truly over the top. I don’t mind fans moaning, having a say, prior to the games or after the games which we all are entitled to even if we detest Rafa, One thing is for sure –we should support your club at all times. Individuals will come and go but the club will always be there. Now the domino effect of those counterproductive times will be felt more in the CFC fans communities. it’s CFC that will be properly out of the top 4 and not in CL not RAFA.
jollyheart Torres
He is trying to wash his hands and want the world to believe that he is not at fault..Maybe trying this to make sure he gets a job next season...He will leave chelsea end of this season and he knows no big clubs is considering him...When he took chelsea job he was jobless for longtime and knew that he was interim manager.. y is he cribbing now...Also he wanted to use this oppurtunity to get the job next season in big clubs..It didn't work as the way he has managed chelsea, he wud be jobless for some time now...He knew this and is now coming up with this media attack to point the blame towards others...Anyhow media will be very happy, they are getting enough to write about chelsea every week since this joker has become our manager....
Chelseaforlife567
A manager of a club slagging off the fans while he's still in charge. Good luck with that Rafa. And more importantly he indirectly slagged of ROMAN. yess Roman, becuase they called him "interim", frankly i expect Chelsea to be searching for our second interim manager and cant see Rafa lasting this season.
ktm_blues
Sooner he's gone the better. His ability and his opinion of his ability are miles apart, maybe this is beginning to dawn on him and the master of apportioning blame elsewhere is just getting in early. Why does he believes the fans are wasting their time? They're behind the team and their time is theirs to do as they like. If he was behind the team just 50% as much we'd be 2nd the league now. Mr de-motivator if ever there was one, Benitez will never work at a big club again, he is now poison.
Pantisocrates
Chelsea players should play for the club and fans.They are being paid well to play and entertain while the fans get little interms of financial remittance,please please they should save us the continuous attack and mocking we face everyday in our offices and pubs. The radio stations are all talking about us ,it seems we make news for the bad reasons these days.one said RB was just reacting to the bad support he has received so far from certain players and higher authorities,may be it was kind of involuntary. Please let our voices beheard all over SB on saturday,we really need to stamp our forces and reclaim our glory.
bluesod
This is the 2nd time he is insulting the fans. First, as an outsider and second as an insider. Enough is enough. Sack him before he does more damage. I pity him on Saturday.
KAKUfrank
I am not a Rafa lover or hater but a realist and I believe even if we had Mourinho, RDM, Hiddink, Pep, Klopp or whoever WITH THIS CURRENT TEAM/SQUAD they would not have done any BETTER. Like couple of you have said our team lacks passion/desire and our squad lacks quality in depth. Our team looks like it lacks balance and play is disjointed.-------------------------------AKE: We were excited like this about Josh but look what we did to him we ruined poor boy's career, Rooney started playing 1st team at the age of "16", Messi at 16 years, Ronaldo at 17 years. If you want to produce world class players you give them regular chance to play first team footy when they are 17-18 as there develop more between the age 16 to 22. We ruined one year of Lukaku's development. Chelsea give them chance when they are 21 or 22. I think all Chelsea players when they are 17 should be loaned out as we will NEVER give them regular first team action. Josh could have been better than WILSHERE. ****Please Chelsea stop ruining young players, I am happy we have 23 players on loan atleast they are not rotting on the bench or playing s***** reserve/U21 football.
B2K420
We are being linked with 19 year old Julian Draxler of Schalke who has been playing in Bundesliga for past 2 years and we are sending George Saville (19 years old) to Millwall, we can produce EPL class players as long as we give our young players regular chance to play in the first team. ---------------------- http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/02/28/chelsea-set-sights-on-highly-rated-german-international-midfielder/
B2K420
This damage was done few years ago, all i want as a chelsea fan is for us to rally round the team for results to improve. Rafa got absolutely nothing to loose in this raging battle, but as chelsea fans true and true, we have so much to loose. The management is not helping with their questionable administrative decisions, players are being rebellion to instructions that doesn't go in line with their old tricks and if us fans should join the bandwagon, who would save the club from going down? I read somewhere that Terry had a meeting with Roman after sunday defeat at $hitty, Luiz was said to have initially refused to play in defence against $hitty. What does that say about player power at chelsea? Please forget Benitezs' excuses and save our season. The only saviour of our season now is the fans. Please for chelsea's sake!
munich Glory
Completely agree with you, Merlin. Rafa has insulted the supporters repeatedly and now he's doing it as a means of deflecting responsibility for his own inept performances as a manger.
RadioactiveD
Well put it this way. Having made my thoughts very clear indeed at the Man City game straight after his appointment, I have used every modicum of restraint I possess not to do so since, for the good of the team. I shall, however, be making my opinions crystal clear once again on Saturday. I can honestly say that events since November, watching this smug, arrogant, conceited and, worst of all, incompetent fool destroy my beloved Chelsea (as he has most other clubs he's 'managed') has been one of the most painful and upsetting periods in my 30+ years of of supporting Chelsea and believe you me, that is saying something! Before November, I had been enjoying going to games again more this season than I have for some years. Making my way to my seat in the North Stand, I would grin involuntarily as the giant images of our CL (and FA Cup) victory came into view on the side of the West Stand. I couldn't help it but I liked it! Now it pains me to say that I traipse up to Stamford Bridge for games with absolutely no joy in my heart, no hope, no excitement, nothing but sadness. I want this horrible mistake out of our club before season ticket renewal time because the way I feel right now, I honestly do not want to be a part of it any more. Perhaps worst of all, Rafa couldn't care less and is so arrogant that he's even prepared to as good as say as much. Just go now, please.
SpanishBlue
I don't like the manager, BUT I'm afraid he makes very good points. If you are a realist and you can manage to see past your hate or like for him, then it is easy to agree with the points he makes. How does booing him every week help the team? How?
pricesoft
munich Glory........At Chelsea everything changes, nothing changes--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jose Mourinho's relationship with John Terry has broken down completely over the Chelsea and England captain's central role in his departure from Stamford Bridge last week. The Champions League-winning coach was replaced on Thursday by Avram Grant, a former Israel national team coach with no experience of club management outside his own country. According to many Chelsea sources, Grant will defer on football matters to owner Roman Abramovich, who has already started to take a hands-on role with the first team. Mourinho holds Terry responsible for charges levelled by Chelsea's board of directors that he had lost the support of his playing staff after Tuesday's Champions League draw with Rosenborg - a match that was followed by club owner Roman Abramovich lecturing a senior professional on his on-field tactics behind Mourinho's back. Half an hour before the Group B fixture, claims a dressing-room source, Terry told one of Mourinho's assistant coaches that he had 'things on my mind'. Only the intervention of a team-mate put him in the right state of mind to take part in the pre-match warm-up, for which Terry arrived late. Midway through the first half Rosenborg scored, after Miika Koppinen beat Terry at a set piece. When Mourinho then directly criticised the centre back's defending at half time, Terry refused to accept responsibility for the goal or even to respond to his manager. Earlier on Tuesday, Terry had been informed that Mourinho had gone to the club's medical department to ask whether there was any physical reason for the player's sub-standard performances in matches this season. Mourinho hoped to find an explanation for a significant decline in Terry's play following an operation to remove a disc from the defender's spine in December. Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon was made aware of the dispute and, according to the dressing-room source, presented the information to an emergency board meeting on Wednesday as evidence that the manager had lost the trust of key players. The club subsequently asked Mourinho for his resignation, which he refused to tender, but ultimately settled on dismissal by 'mutual consent'. Later on Wednesday, Mourinho sent Terry a text message sarcastically thanking him for talking to the club's hierarchy. On Friday, several first-team regulars apparently took their captain to task during a 50-minute team meeting called by Terry in the aftermath of Mourinho's dismissal. Ashley Cole, Didier Drogba and Florent Malouda are believed to have accused him of not doing enough to keep Mourinho at the club. Terry is England's best-paid footballer after agreeing a five-year, £131,000-a-week contract this summer. In initial negotiations he had requested a 'limitless parity' clause to ensure he was the club's biggest earner for the duration of a proposed nine-year term. According to a Chelsea insider Terry also wanted - and was refused - a contractual option for him to manage the club at the end of his playing career. As far-fetched as that request might be, Abramovich's actions in the aftermath of the Rosenborg draw were equally bizarre. In front of the entire Chelsea team, but while Mourinho was occupied with press conference duties, the Russian billionaire decided to hand out an impromptu tactics lesson to Michael Essien. Employing striker Andriy Shevchenko as translator, he instructed midfielder Essien, player of the year last season, to hit passes wide rather than through central areas where the Norwegians had compressed play. Abramovich is expected to take an increasingly hands-on role in the team following the appointment of Grant to replace Mourinho and, according to several sources, will effectively select the side. In a press conference on Friday, Grant insisted he would not tolerate interference but declined to respond when asked who was the most important individual at Chelsea. 'Look, the owner gives the financial support,' Grant said. 'I'm not going to make remarks.' The 52-year-old is already the subject of significant discontent among a first-team squad predominantly still loyal to Mourinho. Grant, though, is confident he will bring not only more silverware to Chelsea but a more attractive brand of football and said on Friday that he had no problems with the playing staff. 'There's a very good relationship with the players,' he said. 'I like their attitude, how they want to win all the time, even if the last result wasn't like that, but the relationship is good.'
CobhamBlue
chelsea fans shld look at d big picture,rafa has said hes leaving come may,if d fans kip booing n we end up in d europa league,who losses? Surely not rafa. N one tin mst pple dnt understnd is,booing rafa s the same as booing d team,cos the team n d coach are 1.so if u kip singing 'rafa we knw wat u are'...if we end up in d europa league(God forbid)...rafa wil have d last laugh,not us,cos he wont b sackd
manop
I want proof that the fans boo rafa from kick off till the end of game time, when I see that proof then I'll call the fans morons for booing rafa and agree completely with the article DJ DUTTS and the rafa advocators say, if there isn't anything like that, then I say rafa should shut up and continue with his job as he ought to and not look for scape goats but earn his god damn pay
Desmondadonis
If he is getting it right, winning a decent amount of games and doesn't tweak foolishly as he does, how many fans boo a competent and sucessful manager? If he doesn't provoke them with his substitutions, his post match analysis that implies that we are ignorant and don't have a mind of our own
Desmondadonis
I have to admit Merlin, I am very disappointed with your response. I think we can all agree that Benitez's Chelsea have been sub-par at the best of times, and we can all agree that the man is certainly not a long term option. However, I do believe the he was never given a fair chance. Yes, he once managed Liverpool and made some derogatory remarks, but are we really so thin-skinned and insecure that we needed an apology before we could unite behind the team? Regardless of whatever opinion one may hold of Benitez's rant, I had hoped for some ubiquity in the simple notion that jeering the man in charge of club during a match is in no way helpful. So why bother doing it? So, as you can imagine, I found David Johnstone's remarks to be most unhelpful, and I can only hope that he is not representative of the masses of Chelsea fans who are hoping for a successful end to the season.
MrPiper415
When Laudrup was quizzed about Chelsea fans booing Rafa,He said; ’ The only thing I will say is it has absolutely nothing to do with the results. It’s my opinion,’ he said. ‘When people are booing at the stadium when they win then it has nothing to do with the results. 'It is something to do with emotion and feelings which is an important part of football. The relationship there has nothing to do with results.’ He is absolutely spot on...So I guess the boo's are also responsible for our wins at the bridge. How was the boo responsible for the shambolic performance at Etihad? Its everyone else's fault,the board,the fans,the players,the atmosphere,the pitch...but its not Rafa's fault? I hear people say 'support the team and ignore Rafa'...How in gods name is that possible,are the players responsible for the formation,line up,tactics,strategy,subs e.t.c? We can cheer the team on but Rafa always bring out a moan with his subs and lack of tactical hindsight when needed. As far as I'm concerned,getting rid of him now is the way to go...the sooner he leaves the better...Hell I'm letting my voice heard on saturday.
nelyvanile
CobhamBlue this news of yours says it all.how can all those sucked managers be bad always.the root cause rest on certain players.we have seen bent zamora bosingwa teves get the weep for questioning their managers but at cfc its opposite as our plastic aka flag funs herald the legends.plz Roman remove all mourinho players 4 the sake of ur business.
mzee69
CobhamBlue this news of yours says it all.how can all those sucked managers be bad always.the root cause rest on certain players.we have seen bent zamora bosingwa teves get the weep for questioning their managers but at cfc its opposite as our plastic aka flag funs herald the legends.plz Roman remove all mourinho players 4 the sake of ur business.
mzee69
i feel that he is threatening our club by saying we could in europa league if we don't support the team. he got pool and inter in the europa league. SACK!!!! do not threaten chelsea
bleetoe
I'm a long time Chelsea fan and just realised that I don't care about what Benitez says or said for as long as he field the same tired team and complain afterwards. He has made a lot of unforgiving Chelsea fans live in the past just like Liverpool fans are. We haven't been that good of a team for 2 seasons with the same players. Some of you haven't realised that John and frank are muppets which the board uses to create instability within the team and these guys never learn.
shaka09
@MrPiper. Merlin is a fan of the club who has deep emotions for CFC,and every human being express their emotions differently. Chelsea is not just a club to some,its an obsession. How can a man who when rumoured to be linked to Chelsea FC,and who was never wanted be given a chance. Warnings were made,banners were raised,chants against his employment was voiced,and I for one said 'I would never accept him',and many others towed that line as well. So how could he get a chance? Like Merlin said the same passion he criticized has come to bite him in the ass.
nelyvanile
When he was winning, Benitez said he didnt even pay attention to what was happening in the stands, as he was focused on the game. Now that we are in deep *****, all of the sudden what the fans say matter. Benitez is a ******** coward who doesn't take responsibility for his actions and ineptitude Materazzi was 100% correct.
k.chelski
@nelyvanile. I understand a lot of that: I was one those greatly opposed to the sacking of RDM, as was I to the prospect of Benitez being in charge. But he is in charge now, and will be until the end of the season. If he goes now, I can't see how further instability is a good thing for the club, and if he stays then what's the point in jeering him. I accept and empathise with people's frustrations, but my mine point is this: there is absolutely nothing positive to be gained by waving banners and singing songs to get under Rafa's skin. Furthermore, it couldn't be a worse advertisement of the club, and will surely deter many of the big names in management who may have otherwise replaced Rafa in the summer.
MrPiper415
Everything Rafa said was correct.He won't be worried about us next year. We need to get behind the team.What was funny about the whole episode was the winning percentage of every Chelsea manager,with the best being A ram Grant.
THEBREEZE
Well someone obviously needs to prove to me,Chelsea don't get behind their team? People make it sound like the atmosphere is so toxic its responsible for our shortcomings. Oh pls! Yes it has little impact but the managers strategy and tactics decides the games home and away.
nelyvanile
Nicely put Merlin. On the interim point, Steve Clarke said:"Only Sir Alex and maybe Arsene Wenger can say they are in it for the long haul, but eventually someone is going to take your job so we are all temporary managers." When Rafa was first appointed he said that he'd do his best this season, and that he didn't care about the short-term nature of his contract. Now it was a mistake on the part of the management. In the beginning, it was "I will fight to win every game" and "If I do things properly I will be happy with trophies and then we will see [about managing the club beyond this season]". The results haven't been pretty, and his comments no longer include 'I'. The mistake is down to the boards choice of titles for Rafa, or the fans wasting their time by chanting.
rslack
@MrPiper. I totally understand your point,but like I said we all express our emotions differently...its part of what makes the game amazing! The chants,the songs,and the boos as well. We can argue about what's necessary and what's not,but i try not to teach a fan how to support his or her club. Boo's are not toxic its part of the game,if Rafa was winning games it will obviously shut the boo's up. Jose made his performance speak for him even though the Real Madrid fans rained boos and whistles at him. Animosity has reduced because performance have stepped up...nuff said.
nelyvanile
@MrPiper. I totally understand your point,but like I said we all express our emotions differently...its part of what makes the game amazing! The chants,the songs,and the boos as well. We can argue about what's necessary and what's not,but i try not to teach a fan how to support his or her club. Boo's are not toxic its part of the game,if Rafa was winning games it will obviously shut the boo's up. Jose made his performance speak for him even though the Real Madrid fans rained boos and whistles at him. Animosity has reduced because performance have stepped up...nuff said.
nelyvanile
FFSW over and over would say 'all I can do is get this team to win trophies'. Well you FFSW, 2 trophies are gone and we have 2 left to play for. 4 points behind United when the FFSW took over now look at us. WhyTF is this turd so arrogant, he's done NOTHING for us!
ForeverChels
@ CobhamBlue, I keep telling people about that Terry and Mou, Mou and Cech, Mou and ballack spat. all happened shortly before he was sacked. The player power is just unbelieveable. I now clearly see why the club is not even interested in give lamps a new contract. And Terry might be the next one out.
jollyheart Torres
typo ***** in giving lamps a new contract ****
jollyheart Torres
We can't do anything about the real culprit in this Benitez catastrophe so we vent all of our anger and frustration on Rafa. He was foolheaded and arrogant enough to take it. But Roman agreed to and extended a welcome to this man who Chelsea fans have always hated with a vengeance. Yet, are there any banners proclaiming his Godawful lack of understanding and foresight in this whole horror show? I read that there is a small group of fans who have started. It's about time. If Benitez is fired soon, someone else comes in and we don't make top 4, who will we boo then?
Squig
against WBA Chelsea fans will do their best so that we lose the game. I love Chelsea so much that I don't care that it has some of the worst supporters in the country
keka
@nelyvanile surely if booing has no effect on players then cheering is pointless? If fans at the bridge cheered the team on as vigorously as they boo Benitez, Stamford Bridge would have an atmosphere to match some of those hostile stadiums in Turkey.
Anarchy
@BluesChronicle: Long day tomorrow. Chelsea Board clearly have 2 choices: sack Benitez, or take responsibility for the consequences on Sat. Won't be pretty.
nelyvanile
@ munich and cobhamblue....I believe that to be the source of most of Chelsea's current problems. I have said it many times on this and other forums as well. The player power at Chelsea is well known and Roman seems to have made it his job to end it permanently. Only at Chelsea can players/ employees of the club be disrespectful to the manager with no consequences. Certain players have been at the club too long and rule the roost. I have no doubt about this as we have seen the results of them flexing their muscle. The club can only move forward when Mr Chelsea and the dude in the # 8 shirt are removed from the roster. I never read much about Jose but if what you posted about him meeting officials behind the managers back is true then Rafa has no chance. If Rafa goes then it should be followed by those "legends" being exiled from the team. Just get them out and let the players that remain play with and for each other.
had2bg
Just watched the full version and I think he made some valid points, he has stated we're a team in transition with young talented players who will take time to gel, he also stated that its a small minority of fans who are creating a negative atmosphere, which is detrimental to the team and all he's asking for is for everyone to get behind the team and support them. Personally I think it needed to be said, it was hardly a rant, it seems he wants to achieve top 4 and wants the fans to support the players and forget about him as he's only here for the short term, unfortunately, some fans will take it as a slight on them and now create even more of an atmosphere! Now I'm not a Rafa supporter and frankly wish he wasn't here, but the fact of the matter is, he is here and every member of the Chelsea family should be pulling in the same direction and support the club and the players on the pitch, without an agenda. He's right when he says that champions league qualification is everyone's responsibility, the fas can give a player that extra 10%.
Splint1976
@nelyvanile....who hired the clown, buffoon or whatever you want to call him?? Who advised hiring him? Rather than take the responsibility for what happens on Sat. if they don't fire Benitez, they (fat Gourlay, Buck, Barry Manilow Emenalo)should prostrate themselves before the fans and take responsibility for advising Roman to hire TFW. The buck ultimately stops with Roman. The best thing he could do this summer is fire the lot of them.
Squig
As i read these comments something just intrigues me. People who say say just back the team and forget Rafa. What exactly does that mean? Different fans express their support in different ways but there is one commonality; it is all emotion based. Those fans who sing through for entire games, who go for away games, both in the UK and all over europe, those who take the time to prepare banners and bring them to the stadium, whatever the banners say are a unique breed of fan who are more emotional than others..They are most demonstrative of their feelings..it is simply impossible for people of this constitution to channel this energy they have to support someone they hate/despise. On the other hand there are less demonstrative fans who generally behave like gentlemen and women..they attend the games, sit quietly and are generally only heard cheering when their team scores a goal..the response of these sort of fans in this situation with rafa is either to not even bother showing up or just to sit mute during the games. People have been commenting on the growing trend of empty seats at Stamford Bridge as well as season ticket holders cancelling their season long subscriptions..is this what people prefer that angry fans do..would you rather have Stamford bridge beccome like a ghost town or grave yard with empty seats everywhere or do you want a bunch of mutes to just come in sit down like good little boys and say nothing throughout the match and then file out when all is done because of this perception that a few people booing Rafa is the cause of all our problems..let us be real here. Why was this not an excuse offered by AVB when he was being booed by spurs fans early in the season, how about the few Gunner fans booing le professor and having insulting banners suggesting he is clueless..why hasnt he called them as the cause of all the Gunners ails. I dont buy this..i for one if i were at stamford Bridge would never boo Rafa, my voice and lungs are way too valuable for me..i certainly would not be shouting my lungs out to cheer him either..if i were there i would almost certainly be one of those who would just sit there mute and cheer when we score and then file out when it is all done.. The emotional energy is just not there any more and one cannot fake this. What some here are asking fans to do is equivalent to being passionately loving to a woman you actually despise..it simply cannot be done.
GabeU
@Splint1976...like you I'm not a Rafa supporter and wish he wasn't here...was stunned like most everyone else when he was brought in! Although there were many who at first said, hey, he's a good manager...maybe he can turn things around. Couldn't believe what the powers that run the club had done. But I also share the thoughts you expressed above.
Squig
@GabeU...excellent post...anybody who reads @GabeU's post above ^^^ and still cannot get it is imposible...kudos mate!
layorh12
You fans have had it against him from the word go though, Spurs were the same with Graham. So Rafa has a point, the fans dont like or want Rafa - everyone undertstands that noone more so than Rafa and thats why he's leaving at the end of the season. So why waste your breath with hating on the guy as he says? All its doing is adding to the possibility that you might not get CL football by causing a media circus & piling pressure on the club. Also, if the problem is your chairman being so much of a meglomaniac, why are there no banners against Mr Ambramovich? WHY ARE THERE NO BANNERS AGAINST YOUR CHAIRMAN? After all it was he who sacked all your heroes. I guess money talks?
HuddersfieldYiddo
I sometimes wonder if we are just rich man's toy thing. Honestly. WhyTF appoint Rafa when Roman knew it would cause an uproar. My guess is to get back at the CPO and the squad (used loosely) for turning on AVB. Which is why Lamps is not getting a new contract.
ForeverChels
@HuddersfieldYiddo, fair point. Money does talk, of course. If Rafa was appointed on a permanent basis I could then fathom banners/chants questioning Roman's actions/intentions.
ForeverChels
The next chants should be - Rafa Rafa grow a pair..Grow a pair and some hair..
nite1010
I am a bit tired of all this nonsense. They should have sacked him yesterday. Tubby's judgement is incredibly poor. I had no idea why he opened his yap without thinking of the ramifications. Everybody is now on the edge. For a locker room which is already tensed with the players, will the players even listen to him? After making such comments and being hauled into the principal's office (Ron Gourlay), the kids in the classroom (players) would have surely been giggling in the background like "oh snap", he is gonna be on timeout and he is in trouble. At the same time, Emenalo is walking around Cobham while Bruce Buck decides to cancel his trip. Of course they know the end is near. Why will any of the players even pay attention to his already stupid tactics?
KAKUfrank
Did you not know the title would be 'interim'? 'It was a surprise for me.'.......What a lying *****! Even the dumbest person in the world, knew he was 'interim'.
nelyvanile
What if you were offered a new contract?... 'I will do my job until the last day and after, I will be really pleased if we can win trophies or we can be in the top four or in the top three or even top two. 'I will do my job until the end and we will see.’ There is his real intentions init!
nelyvanile
If you see idiots aplenty "passionately" doing something stupid is that a reason to condone their behavior?? It's very funny how people can condone stupidity in the name of "passion" so what, are supposed to condone killers because they do so passionately?? I don't get how long it takes you to do a stupid banner, or how much you've paid to go act stupid at the stadium, BOTTOM LINE you acting stupid PERIOD. There's no condoning that.
@Mq
Rafa never speaks to the fans directly, he only answers the journo's questions in the press conferences so what's so impossible about ignoring him in the stadium?? I don't see Rafa getting up and gesticulating at the crowd, I don't see him say something directed to the crowd, hell I don't see him directly respond to the crowd chants behind him so what's so difficult about fans ignoring him and focusing on motivating the players on the pitch?? Ppl should learn to focus on the positives and ignore the negatives, it's only that way you'll make things better. Other than that, you just worsening a situation. Channel that "passion" to something positive for the club, and ignore the negativity. No wonder ppl say Chelsea fans (not all) are among the most pathetic, we don't know how to ignore negativity and focus on the positive
@Mq
according to well advised sources, Rafa's outburst was not a mistake. It is no longer a secret that the club have established contact with Jose Mourinho about taking over the reigns next season at chelsea. I understand this is why Rafa came out the way he did, because he knew that we had started trying to identify his replacement. Rumours are now widespread that he will not be in charge for the United game as Avram Grant may be brought in till the end of the season. Not my style or preference to change managers frequently but on this occasion - this sucker needs to go...RAFA OUT!! TORRES OUT!! Keep the Faith
JohnnyOz
I hope Rafa gets the sack right after the WBA game. On his way out he should take Torres and some of the VC drama queens like @Mq 7 co with him.
Keyser Soze
Qualifications to be a Chelsea fan...have a mental age less than 10 . Whatever punishment Rafa deserves has surely been exceeded. If this infantile behaviour continues it will only further damage the clubs results. The fans who claim to be adults should grow u unless they actually want us to slip out of the top 4 meerky for th sake of their childish desires for revenge - you are only shooting yourseles in the foot. I find the whole thing pathetic - as though the club dosnthave eough problems without adding to them.. Those that want to continue with the Rafa abuse are like a dog with a bone - refusing to give it up. When we end up outside the top 4 ....dont go blaming Rafa , - he for all his faults is at least trying is best for the club..you all are doing your best to destroy the clubs position for the sake of some trivial axe to grind......BLAME YOURSELVES! ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC
Blue_Mel
Lmaooooo @Keyser Soze. I am also wishing the same Keyser.
KAKUfrank
i dont see anything wrong with the phrase "interim"...he wouldnt be the first or last manager to ever be appointed with that title, and he knew that before he accepted the position...Anyway like many here have said best not to focus our energies on Rafa, the guy is such a clown...everyone who knows his history could see this happening at some point...
JohnnyOz
@Mq OMG...I agree with you . Im gonna go have a lie down
Blue_Mel
@CobhamBlue, your piece of information about the under-hand tactics of Terry have left me absolutely speechless. Who would 've thought Terry would be such a betrayal (if that information is true). Just like someone have pointed out in one of the comments above, the board and players relationship at chelsea is doing the club more harm than good. Bosingwa was fined two weeks wages by Harry for refusing to sit on the bench, no-one interfered. But at chelsea, things are appallingly different. Terry have destroyed chelsea's image in several ways but nobody sees any fault in him. Malouda was sent to oblivion for standing up for his right. Can someone tell me that none of the managers we 've had post Mourinho isn't good enough? Its so disheartening that people who should be sent packing for chelsea to have a new direction are the same people that are being celebrated the most. I 'm not a fan of Benitez, but the fact is chelsea's problem is beyond Benitez. The problem was here before him and it will still be here after him if drastic measures are not put in place to address this problem that has been eating the club for years. I 'm imploring every true fan of our beautiful club to please calm down and do everything necessary to save our dying season. Some of us are passionate about chelsea so much that we look completely like orphans whenever things aren't going well with chelsea..................................i hope its not true that everything always change at chelsea........................yet nothing change
munich Glory
That is absolutely rubbish BLUE_MEL. How do you explain going from 4 points behind Man U to 19 points behind? Is it Fan's sentiments towards Rafa or is it the Coach?
KAKUfrank
Kaku,Remember we were also 4points above man U,so how did we go 4points behind??
Ken4CFC
@Kaku.. tak a step back and be realistic....it has to be both....you cant argue that th fans have their part to play in encouraging them when the team plays well , and then argue that it dsnt affect the team when the fans treat the manager like the fans are treating Rafa ... Maybe Rafa isnt the best coach in th world, maybe he was a little harsh against Chelsea fans as Liverpool manager.maye he deserves some voice from the fans about his history...but these same fans cant disclaim their efefct on the team....if they want to believe they can affect the team when they play well...the fans should get behind their team , their club , the clubs owner and the clubs manager , especially during the matches. Like Mq says , if you want to criticise Rafa do it between matches , if you must
Blue_Mel
You people keep barking at the wrong tree, mediocrity shouldn't be applauded, I asked above if anybody have proof that banners are been raised and boos are being hauled to rafa before kick off or during games, nobody was able to find it because it is probably non existent, rafa only gets booed when he is tactically inept, was it the fans fault he can't get the his job done? How is it their faults that he never gets it right? Like for like compare his antics at pool, at inter and now at chelsea, u'll find the same pattern, he is trying to coverup his feck ups, arsene wenger was booed, as gabe pointed out, did he lash out at the fans? When man utd were protesting against the glazers at a time, did they accuse the fans or did it affect man utds performance on the pitch, he should focus on his job and get it done rather than pointing fingers, it is only a moron that will boo a winning manager #fact
Desmondadonis
I wonder how all this people seem to come to conclusion from the pictures the media paint of the drama in the dressing room. No one is saying there's no player power present,no one is saying players don't have dressing room influence,but we don't know this players personally,we don't know what they do behind close doors,so why judge from an image painted to you by the media? As a fan you tend to judge a player by what you see on the pitch,is he 100% committed to the blue jersey,does he put in a top shift every time he dawns the Chelsea jersey? If the answer is yes then that's basically what you want to see from your player...We've heard about Ferreira's father figure influence in the dressing room,but we have no idea about that for sure...but when he enters the pitch he gives 100% that's why he gets my respect. You can talk about JT,Ashley,Cech,Lamps player power in the dressing room,but they give 100% on the pitch. Like they say,respect is not deserved its usually earned.
nelyvanile
We go cheated at Stamford Bridge against Man U and drew against Pool. Lost to West Brom. That's 7 points dropped. How is that relevant to dropping from 4 points to 15 points please???????
KAKUfrank
Well said @ken4CFC. Perhaps it was Benitezs' fault that we surrendered a two goals lead against Juve, lost to west brom, shakthar and juve again. The problem of chelsea is not the manager, but the board and player power. We keep hiring and firing managers every season and these managers comes with their own style of play. Its very clear that some of you are directing your anger at the manager because you can't stand up against the real culprits. Grow up and live with situations you can't change rather than wasting your time living by them.
munich Glory
So man utd extends with Giggs, but Chelsea cant extend with its club legend even tho lampard is a better player and have Scored 199 goals for Chelsea. Madness is it!
Lakupiippu
Really??all that happened in the space of one month,so how are we sure it couldnt have gotten worse??its relevant because we kept droppin points till the very day he was sacked.
Ken4CFC
So its the fans fault? Can anyone put up a quote since when he has been in charge of Chelsea where he has blamed himself for getting it wrong? Its everybody's fault except him. #brilliant.
nelyvanile
Benítez argues that fans have gone too far in their protests against him. Many observers agree. Yet in an era when supporters are often accused of being fickle, Chelsea’s dissenters have proved the opposite. The antithesis of “plastic” fans, they have stuck rigidly and vocally to a point of principle. They did not want Benítez. -Henry Winter
nelyvanile
@Ken That happened in the month where we had our toughest fixtures and a month where we usually have our slump...We just one 4 games on the bounce Stoke City(H),Arsenal(A),Norwich(H),Spurs(A). Then it was followed by some tough fixtures at home and hard grounds away Man utd(H) Lost(referee decisions),Swansea(A) drew (late equalizer),Liverpool(H) drew,West Brom(A)Lost. It also should be pointed out that in all those 4 games we weren't playing as bad as we are right now. So I don't get why people make it sound like we were in a downward slide.
nelyvanile
Nely ... the point about raising an issue - about Rafa or anything else - is to realise when one has made one's point , and then shut up
Blue_Mel
I totally agree with what you said @johnny. The way I see it,if you read Benitez full interview,the fans chants was basically just an excuse. Benitez made more fuss about the 'interim' tag than about the fans. The reporter did a good job quizzing him about the tag as well. The idea Benitez had was if he had a good bounce of result he could have a good shot at a permanent job,but just when it was reported that Chelsea were looking for a replacement for him,he made his appearance to the media. The timing was in tune with us searching for his replacement,the complains about the chants was just an excuse. Notice how many times he kept saying 'ill be leaving at the end of the season.' He was sending a message to the board.
nelyvanile
what's funny KEN is that people speak like they know, for certain, we'd be closer under RDM who was clearly being exposed as having no plan B. How many articles and comments where made on VC about RDM's lack of versatility?? The same ppl now want to blame Rafa in entirety, forgetting that RDM also oversaw us being HUMILIATED by Athletico & Juve, saw us barely scrape something vs Shaktar.
@Mq
Unless anyone can factually prove that RDM would've done better, anyone talking "4 points then, 15 now" is doing nothing but expose themselves as myopic
@Mq
oh no...Giggs signed 1yr contract at ManU...Now fans here will start cribbing abt contract for Lampard....oh god...I feel bad for the next manager at chelsea...he has to deal the same problem next year which AVB faced 1 year back...chelsea will never improve if we keep the old players with us.
Blu_run
Dortmund Director confirmed that Lewandowski is leaving the club...Bayern & ManU are in pole position...He will cost ard £14-15m...If ManU get him, they are willing to sell Chicharito to Atl.Madrid who are willing to pay £15m....This is what a planning is??? Wondering what chelsea does in planning like this...wow are thy planning to extend torres contract or buying another 50m striker in falcao to make a flop???
Blu_run
@blue_Mel. The chants ain't as vibrant as they were in the earlier stages of his appointment. Its calmed down a lot,just a few groups at the MH,chant boo's and it occurs when he makes clueless subs or when the team is losing. So what about the atmosphere at away grounds where we have lost? Benitez rant obviously means it will go back to what it was against Man City.
nelyvanile
U can blame rafa for all u want but the fact remains that we have contributed to our own problem,ofcos the so called 'true' fans would never agree,even its glarin before their very eyes instead they derive joy in blaming rafa alone for everything that goes wrong..whether u like it or not his post match comment about the (some)fans is spot on..http://www.bleacherreport.com/articles/1546685-rafa-benitez-is-right-chelsea-fans-have-contributed-to-the-chaos
Ken4CFC
I guess it all boils down to diversity of ideologies and philosophies.. The diversity of opinion and interest is natural and bound to happen, there is no wrong or right, it's just differing view points... There are some fans who sing through entire games, prepare banners.... are very emotional and vocal but choose not to engage in the abuses and negative criticisms towards Rafa because they feel it's not necessary and only creating more problems for the club. This is not to say those who are deeply into the fight against Rafa don't have a right to do so, those who choose not to only believe there are more important things to achieve than fighting with Rafa... A top 3 finish is the main thing, either with or without Rafa, I careless about how we achieve it... but if the management decides to keep Rafa till end of season, can we just at least not add to the the tension and distractions already jeopardizing our chances....
Latunvic
@nely,thats the point,it was practically sametime we had our slump last season and never recovered,we kept slidin till the end of the season.so there is absolutely no assurance things could have improved.
Ken4CFC
@Blue_Mel. I am realistic and the truth is, the so called fan sentiment being the demise is rubbish. Let's start with Japan. 68,275 attended that match. It felt Corinthians were playing at home. How did Chelsea fans sentiment affect that? How did Chelsea fans sentiment affect his tactics against Man City? How did it affect the tactics against QPR, Southampton, Swansea City, or West ham? How did fans crying against benitez prevent our manager from adjusting to tactics to adjust to Diame? Under the same circumstances, AVB made tactical adjustments that did while Rafa could not.......So how did the fans bitching cause the losses in those games????? How please?
KAKUfrank
That's not the point...I ask you as a fan Ken,and i obviously won't bring this up again as its totally non relevant...So ill ask for the last time,if Robbie had stayed,would things have been this bad?
nelyvanile
Nely,lets be truthful to ourselves,there is absolutely no assurance that results could be better,it could go either way...
Ken4CFC
@Ken. The writer points out,that the atmosphere has some contributing factor,but its obviously not the main factor for our loses,the manager's tactics is. Rafa is saying the fans are the main culprit for the teams form and if we don't achieve top 4 its our fault? This is where I disagree,he is hiding and shielding himself away from criticism.
nelyvanile
I will like to remind people that we lost ONLY 2 games in the premier league under RDM. The Man U game which we got cheated by the Ref with crazy red cards, offside goal and David Luiz's mistakes. We were also coming back in those games as well. The 2nd game was against West Brom of which of course Luiz cocked up and RDM's only mistake was starting with persisting with NONSENSE Torres. Even Daniel Sturridge got more chances and failed to put some balls in after the change. Tell me ONE GAME UNDER Benitez in which we were losing and were coming back like the Man U or West Brom game. Mention one game in which Benitez's tactical change has taken us from a losing POSITION to a winning position. Until then, NO STUPID IDIOT should come on here asking nonsense about factually proving RDM turning around our season.
KAKUfrank
Im not talking about how fans affect managers decisions...though they can and possibly sometimes do. Im talking about how the aggressive atmosphere from fans agaisnt Rafa affctthe teams performances to a greater or lesser extent. If the fans were right behind the club, the team and Roman etc , then the whole would do a lot better That is unarguable
Blue_Mel
That's my point, IT WON'T BE A LOT BETTER, because they are so many cases of the fans NOT even booing or worrying Rafa as I proved and the guy still failed and he is still INEPT!!!!! herego, our slide from fighting for trophies to fighting for top 4.
KAKUfrank
@Ken. Well if you say there's no assurance RDM would have done better,then there's absolutely no assurance a better atmosphere could have covered for Rafa's tactical nous during games. There you go...
nelyvanile
Rafa's Press briefing in a bit....let's hear what he has to say.
nelyvanile
@ Des, the special one was booed off the field against Roosenberg in the CL few days before he was sacked. @ munich Glory, the stuff about Terry is well known. Someone that was trying to get a clause in his contract to bring limitless parity with top earner in the team show the true character of the person. The thought of the clause has abit of jealousy tinted feeling. so properbly he his not happened to see the inlux of higher earners in the dressing room. So his big boss and voice of the players in the dressing are just to keep faint hope of been still significant to CFC future. I still remember that Napoli game when he was shouting instructions from the bench to Essien in the field. That again confirm the believable power the player have. It's time for Roman to do the right thing. it's his money that have kept the players/ legends in CFC for this long and it's ONLY him that can save us and create a soft landing for the future coach/manager by putting or not renewing these destructive players contract. They are well paid prof, they be how there giving 110% to the fans. why is that hard to do? Manager comes and goes it's the fans that get the banter from all corners.
jollyheart Torres
And who is this clown that keeps talking about losing to Atletico Madrid and Juventus? Rafa can't beat QPR, West Ham, Swansea, Man City (knocked out of the UCL too), Corinthians (6th place team in Brazil), and Newcastle? What makes this clown think Rafa would have survived one half against Juve, Shakthar or Atletico? Switch Falcao for Aguero against Man City and it would have been 6-0!!!!!!! in the 1st half.
KAKUfrank
Nely,what i and a few others here are also arguein that the poisonous atmosphere contributes to the problem,and i dont think anyone is singlin it out as the main factor for our problems,"there are so many factors responsible for our predicaments starting from the decision makers,manager,players down to the fans,we all have to take responsibility not just the manager,we can keep blamin him for everything that goes wrong and not play our different roles than at seasons' end,he would leave and we would suffer the consequences" i think thats the summary of rafas' rant
Ken4CFC
Actually Ken4CFC, Rafa's point is we will be playing in Europa League and he won't be here next season. But he is SIGNIFICANTLY responsible for taking us to Europa League next season with his incompetence. He should be sacked and we still have hope in making it.
KAKUfrank
Nely,look no further than the napoli game to realise how a great atmosphere could have made the difference
Ken4CFC
Do u think if there were derogatory chants,inflammatory banners,boos,jeers at the manager the team would show such character and zeal to win??
Ken4CFC
This players are not illiterates they can read banners,they are not deaf they can hear chants,they are not fools they can interprete events...so how u expect the players to react instructions from 'an enemy' 'unwanted man' 'anti chelsea' e.t.c???
Ken4CFC
....And who is this clown that keeps talking about losing to Atletico Madrid and Juventus? Rafa can't beat QPR, West Ham, Swansea, Man City (knocked out of the UCL too), Corinthians (6th place team in Brazil), and Newcastle? What makes this clown think Rafa would have survived one half against Juve, Shakthar or Atletico? Switch Falcao for Aguero against Man City and it would have been 6-0!!!!!!! in the 1st half..........Defense Judge responds, rather eloquently Defense appreciates the honorable presiding officer's sound judgement :)
@Mq
We can go back and forth about the atmosphere and its contributing factor. Atmosphere against Napoli was great but the tactics was brilliant. After the game many were talking about the strategy to press the Napoli players on their half of the pitch,and how we made use of the width. Yes the atmosphere helps but tactics means a lot. The anfield claim to have a great atmosphere and serve as the 12th men but they lost there against A. Villa,where Rodgers was tactically out muscled,and they have lost a few more times at home this season. My point is,we are making so much fuss about the atmosphere there by ignoring the managers lack of tactical input in games.
nelyvanile
You know what I like about this....the BILLIONAIRE owner has retained the "useless" Rafa and sacked the "highly capable" RDM and here come the broke a$$es calling it a stupid decision LoL
@Mq
...Atmosphere against Napoli was great but the tactics was brilliant. After the game many were talking about the strategy to press the Napoli players on their half of the pitch,and how we made use of the width...THE SAME NAPOLI THAT MISSED 3 GOOD CHANCES IN THE FIRST 20 MINUTES?? HA
@Mq
...I will like to remind people that we lost ONLY 2 games in the premier league under RDM. The Man U game which we got cheated by the Ref with crazy red cards, offside goal and David Luiz's mistakes. We were also coming back in those games as well. The 2nd game was against West Brom of which of course Luiz cocked up and RDM's only mistake was starting with persisting with NONSENSE Torres. Even Daniel Sturridge got more chances and failed to put some balls in after the change. Tell me ONE GAME UNDER Benitez in which we were losing and were coming back like the Man U or West Brom game. Mention one game in which Benitez's tactical change has taken us from a losing POSITION to a winning position. Until then, NO STUPID IDIOT should come on here asking nonsense about factually proving RDM turning around our season.................................EMPTY VESSELS MAKE THE MOST NOISE. last season, with a squad filled with experience RDM best league achievement was 6th position. Why any1 would believe/assume/think he'd do better with a lesser experienced squad is beyond me. Madness I tell you, madness LoL
@Mq
Come on Ken...This players are professionals,they've played in more hostile grounds and are blind to such. We played at Allianz Arena with thousands of fans cheering against CFC,and we carved out a win,we played at Nou camp where chelsea fans were placed at the top tier so they couldn't be heard,and 80,000 catalans were chanting against us and we proved our methal...Rafa himself confirmed "The atmosphere doesn't affect the players. We r professionals and we concentrate on our job." After Villa 8-0. So now it affects?
nelyvanile
Kaku,well thats his point only if u add"stop wasting your team printin banners and singing derogatory songs against me,its not helpin us,if u further decrease the chances of qualifyin for UCL,u play EL next season and i wont be here"
Ken4CFC
"forget me and get behind your team,they need you support now more than ever"
Ken4CFC
Rafa press briefer on the way!
nelyvanile
^^^nelyvanile...you speak logically, obviously those you're arguing against won't see it as they have tinted glasses when you use their same logic against them...My feelings on the matter have been documented on VC...He came, I called him a fat fool, highlighted his legendary largess, but I conceded that if he can show the same zest for victory he shows for arbitrary pieces lipid laden lard then I will hail him, all the while highlighting his immense frame and how he chased D&G away for they feared the material necessary to tailor his suit would render them bankrupt, but I gave him a chance, I continued with the insults as he never apologized for his, but I gave him a chance...but alas the intensity of his ineptitude is surpassed only by his appetite for said lipid laden lard pieces...get it through your collective skulls, the man is a fraud...he is no longer relevant in today's footballing landscape...I am not saying that RDM was perfect, and my love for the man is too well documented on this site...but trying to argue the merits of RDM against Rafa is way too easy an endeavor for me if one submits to pure and simple logic. Both were presented with the same scenario, except Rafa's was easier in terms of trying to win trophies as his heavy frame was riding upon the staunch achievements of RDM (As was stated by Fergie)...but he failed, he continued our slide in the league and turned us from a deadly side who lost only to the best or overtly overachieving (Manure, Shakter [Ukraine's invincibles backed by a Romanesque owner], Atletico [Hovering above Real atm in LaLiga] and Juve [Italy's invincibles]) to the current circumstance we find ourselves now where a team like Prague can come to the Bridge and make us Cower...esteemed Gentlemen and illustrious Ladies this situation is unacceptable...I commend all who scream that this is unacceptable for like me, they have an unwavering love for CFC and a desire for us to win...when all's said and done, perhaps we're all of the same mold, we all love CFC after all and it is circumstance that highlights our differences in terms of reaction, we are all reacting to the shambles that the fat man has plunged us into...some are in denial (See Ken4CFC and BlueMel) others (Me,Des and Uncle Merl) are in a state of Rage...then there are others more enlightened than the two groups still dillydalling with the stages of grief who have come to accept that what will be will be...(GabeU) thus what can happen now to unite us, Rafa must go, and then we will be united and perhaps can aim for some form of salvation before season's end...
Gian-Franco/Luca
Someone here yesterday mentioned that if atmosphere doesn't influence players performance then there wont be need for cheering during games... Of course cheering can influence players performance on the pitch and that is why Pat Nevin said sound affects... so does a negative atmosphere, it can but doesn't mean it will always.... There is no denying the fact that Rafa has his tactical flaws and no one is saying he is a genius, but creating a negative atmosphere will take him from average to poor, or from poor to poorer... whereas with more positive support and strong positive atmosphere we can inspire the team more and help the team not derail it... It don't think the frustration is based on Rafa's tactical ability or quality, I think it's more down to hatred...he's not a genius but going by his CV, he's a coach who should be able to at least get us a trophy and top 3 finish.... but if we don't create the right atmosphere for him and the team to work, it's going to be more difficult... what if the management refuses to sack him? do we pull Chelsea down because of Rafa...
Latunvic
....And who is this clown that keeps talking about losing to Atletico Madrid and Juventus? Rafa can't beat QPR, West Ham, Swansea, Man City (knocked out of the UCL too), Corinthians (6th place team in Brazil), and Newcastle? What makes this clown think Rafa would have survived one half against Juve, Shakthar or Atletico? Switch Falcao for Aguero against Man City and it would have been 6-0!!!!!!! in the 1st half..........Defense intervenes "objection your honor, the Prosecutors referring to hearsay and assumptions, steering well away from the actual facts" Judge responds, rather eloquently "Prosecutor, if you don't quit the nonsensical unrealistic statements in a pathetic attempt to try influence the jury, I'll find you in contempt of court and throw you out. I have no room for flying pigs-ideologies in my courtroom, stick to the actual facts"...Defense appreciates the honorable presiding officer's sound judgement :)
@Mq
Rafa says 'he hopes for a fantastic atmosphere tomorrow' really?
nelyvanile
Nely,its a normal thing to be antagonised by away fans but its very depressin and difficult when its coming from your own fans..isnt fans suppose to play the role of a 12th man??instead its seems we are playin for the opponent...the villa game was last year and he certainly has inhaled enough toxicidity that its gotten to the crescendo,its almost gona contribute in destroyin our season hence he has to speak up against it
Ken4CFC
Well said Luca. Brilliantly written .
nelyvanile
@gian,well said although most of your rants are absolutely meaningless and unneccessary.now get it into your head,no one here is saying rafa has been amazing or fantastic with us,all we are simply sayin is that he can not be solely singled out as the problem when we have not played our part in ensurin the success of our team...for how long will the stupid insults continue??how does derogatories help the team??
Ken4CFC
虎穴に入らずんば虎子を得ず
@Mq
U can go to the bridge tomorrow and carelessly raise your antirafa placards and banners or sing your antirafa chants,the truth is it will not in anyway help the team improve and whatever happens rafa would not be here next season to lead us into thursday night football u better get that and do your own part in inspirin the team and not shatter the already fragile confidence
Ken4CFC
@kakufrank we came from behind against Everton, Southampton and Leeds to win.
Anarchy
Ken is right...lets forget about Rafa and focus on the team regardless of results! This dude has 11 games to manage us...tops! whats the point wasting energy on Rafa when we have bigger issues (like potentially missing out on the top 4) to worry about.... changing my stance a little lol...Come May 19th RAFA OUT!! TORRES OUT!!
JohnnyOz
till then....Blue is still the colour! From now till the end of the season, Rafa is invisible to me. I suggest that chelsea fans should adopt this mentality
JohnnyOz
Hahaha...Forever blue johnny! I'm not sure how we are going to ignore Rafa...its hard mate! I remember fans Cheering the team on in the City game,and then Rafa makes a stupid sub,i remember fans cheering the team on in the Southampton game,but Rafa refuses to introduce Ba on time,i remember fans in good spirit before the QPR game,but Rafa's line up killed fans optimism. Its easy to say,ignore Rafa and cheer the team on,that has been done countless times,but the decision making on the pitch tactically boils down to Mr Rafa. The thing is I don't boo my team and I've never done it before,but i totally understand where those who do are coming from. Up the chels!
nelyvanile
I just wonder people excuse blatant mediocrity, how about singing rafa's praise and his team's feat a coupla years ago just to massage his ego, yet he'll still be a losing (unt, funny enough, those that don't go to the bridge are the ones insisting the fans keeps booing rafa without knowing the actual situation, why some go there and insists that rafa is only booed towards the tail end of a game when he does his subs wrong (by only a minority) , who are we to believe?
Desmondadonis
I womder why people* to sing his team's feat a coupla years ago in istanbul a coupla years ago*
Desmondadonis
@Anarchy, we drew 2-2 against Southampton after being 2 goals up so we didn't come from behind. Lampard scored the Everton goals which required no change from Rafa and Leeds was Carling Cup which I admit I didn't even watch!!!!!! #RafaOUT. He is incompetent.
KAKUfrank
its very difficult Nely, the guy is the most irritating thing i have ever seen at stamford bridge...arrogance, irrational subs and tactics, lack of man management skills, lack of diplomatic skills, lack of physical conditioning, overall lack of conviction and general unlikeability...still we are here because of chelsea not this guy... Anyway we're moving on from him - the now invisible Tubbster...
JohnnyOz
For a manager that his players were one of the fittest in the league at that time, plays with passion, fights for balls, and a tough team to beat for top clubs, that is how I'll sum his best league performance while rafa was at pool, then I wonder what went wrong with him, he is likely out of touch from the game and needs to go to a club with less expectations and start his career afresh, he is sooooo way out of it now
Desmondadonis
@Nely,@Kaku,@Desmond could you guys please do me a favour? Stop brandishing words with @Mq every sensible persons @VC knows that he is as idiotic as he claims to be a bank manager, so if you guys will just ignore him once you make your reasonable comments all right thinking people reading knows who the moron is actually is. The earlier you ignore him (like I've been doing even when his comments are senseless and annoying) the earlier he leaves VC when we all ignore him.
sojofjand
Atmosphere is key in any games that is the why the word HOME ADVANTAGE come to plays. Most players will tell you it makes a lot of difference. if it's a one off like in Munich or against Barca, that is entirely different but when it become a weekly occurrence it will gradually but surely get to the thickest of skin.
jollyheart Torres
Not matter how much we hate him with which we are entitle to but our actions is surely not helping. No interim manager has succeeded in CFC to win a trophy after replacing fans and players favourite. These shows we need to be there for the team because it's a difficult task for any one to replace a fans and player favourite. Because you can only motivate whoever want to be motivated. Grant replaced Mou we won nothing, RAFA in for RDM and will might not win anything. But look at the anytime an Interim has replaced a coach the fans and players are not happing with we have gone on to win something. Scolari issue with the too big egos was replaced by Gus we won the FA Cup, RDM for AVB we again won 2 cups. T be
jollyheart Torres
KAKUfrank he must mean the fa cup, We came from 1-0 down to win 5-1
Lakupiippu
^^^^ vs southampton
Lakupiippu
@kaku 5-1 in the F.A cup against Southampton.
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