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GK. CECH DEFENDERS: RB. CESAR, LB. COLE, CB. CAHILL, CB. LUIZ DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDERS: ROMEU, RAMIRES ATTACKING MID: OSCAR WINGERS: RW. MATA, LW: HAZARD STRIKER: BA FORMATION:4-2-3-1

(GK) Cech-,(RB) Azpi- (CB) Cahill-(CB) JT-(LB) Cole, (DM) Mikel- (AM) Lampard- (CAM) Oscar,-(RW) -Mata, (LW)-Hazard (CF) -Ba. Formation (4-1-2-3)

Cech Azpi-Terry-Luiz-Cole Romeu-Rami Mata-Oscar-Hazard Ba.

Azpi has really won a lot of Chelsea fans with his performances.

Sorry 4-1-2-3 not 4-2-3-1

Everything else being equal i would go with the following starting 11 to line up in a 4-3-3; Cech, Cesar, Cole, JT, Cahill, Oscar, Mikel, Ramires, Mata, Hazard and Ba.

Sorry, Cahill not Luiz!

Cech, Azpi, Cahill, JT, Cole, Mikel, Ramires, Moses, Mata, Hazard, BA

4-3-3 for me Cech, Iva (RB), JT, Luiz, Cole... Ramires, Mikel (CDM), Oscar... Mata, Ba, Hazard

@Desmond, just wondering what are you reasons for omitting Mata for Moses?

4-3-2-1 form Cech/ azpi,luiz,terry,cole / romeu,Oscar,ramires / hazard,mata. / Ba /

any good manager will bench moses bcos he is too slow n hope he learn to be a dangerouse winger , i like him very much.

Christmas tree formation-Cech,Iva,Luiz,Terry,Cole,Mikel,Oscar,Lampard,Hazard,Mata,Ba.

sry...forget to add formation type...it will be 4-3-3...Mikel as DM, Ramires, Oscar as BBM and Mata, Hazard to flang Ba

----------------------------------Cech------------------------------------------ Dave--------------Cahill-------------------------Luiz---------------------Cole -------------------------Romeu------------Ramy------------------------------ Mata-------------------------------Oscar-------------------------------Hazard ---------------------------------------Ba----------------------------------------

Now that I think about it, that messed up formation might be a good idea with azpi, luiz, ramy and oscar overloading the right side of the pitch and Ash, with his expansive passing, pulling the strings from the center of the park! lol

In a 4-3-3 set up,i will go with this line up... : : ..................Cech................. Azpi.....Iva........Terry......Cole \/..............Luiz.................... ....<..\/Ramires.....Oscar........ Mata>........Ba.........Hazard\/ : : : this will my starting eleven with Moses coming on for Hazard later on. And Mikel or Romeu on for Luiz. For those of you wondering how Mata will cope in this set up on the flank,i indicated some key directions of the players. There Mata will regularly invert into the middle while Azpi will engage in incessant foraging of that RW in a steady overlapping runs which will more or less make him a deputy RW. Mata wont need to make much flank runs and crosses and will constantly find himself in c. midfield positions where he can make defense splitting passes. Ramires will occasionally cover for the overlapping Azpi in the RB. And across the other flank,Hazard will seek to hug the touch line and open up spaces for Oscar to find him and Ba. This line up will win us games and make us somewhat impregnable. This is because the mids are capable of high pressing,quick conversion of defense to offense and good range of passing.

Where are the fecking trolls?Feck you.Lampard is being offered a new deal.Go and hang yourselves now.

Cfc250,check out all the prefered lineups here then u would realise how 'unneeded' lampard is

@Latunvic, i quite admit that Mata's drifting in may alter the 4-3-3 shape (if i got you right),but it doesnt necessary mean a deviation from the intended plan. The purpose for that drifting in between the two positions is mostly to occasionally create space for the overlapping RB. He has the skill set to hold the position and make few dribbles,but to better exploit that area,Azpi will need to make forays forward especially when Mata is in possession of the ball and sort of makes a diagonal movement,carving an opening for Azpi. Mata will not necessarily be static in positioning,if he finds a good space he can take advantage of in the middle based on his sophisticated intelligence,then he makes his move. The shape will remain intact for the greater duration of the game. Like you rightly said,the formation and game plan needs high level of understanding and cordination in the team. But i reckon we have the right crop of place who have finese,fluid movement and intelligence to cope with the complexity of the set up. And i believe when the right shape that makes for strategic positioning is in place,the finishing rate will be high. And when a good number of 'quality' chances are created,the high the tendency of the finishing. Note that there is a diff between quality and quantity of goalscoring chances.

@ken: "I'm very understanding of where I'm at in my career. But if I can continue playing for Chelsea and continue contributing here, whether it's starting or as a valuable squad member, then the World Cup is getting a bit nearer." Lamps... i think that answers ur question.

Anyway,give it a rest.These rumours seem to be false.

I think the winner of the United-Madrid clash will win the CL.Hope Madrid tear them apart,but United at Old Trafford will be difficult.Have a feeling Madrid will it on penalties.My prediction is that Van Persie and Ronaldo will score and Van Persie will be sent off in Extra time and the game may get ugly today.

Yeah, Mata & Mikel will have no place in the team If you want to play the traditional 4-3-3. Even Marin may not do well as he loves cutting in from the Left & when played on the right he becomes crap. Mikel is a better player when played in the Pivot than as a lone DM. Romeu is the best Lone DM we have, I dont think Luiz will do well as a lone DM due to his tendency to push forward, he is better in the Pivot like Mikel when there is someone else to cover for him. Ake should flourish as a lone DM.

@CFC250 Lolz, we were crap in November not because we were without Lamps. It was because 1) the Likes of Oscar & Hazard were still adapting to the league 2) We did not have a CF like RVP who would bail us out (like he has been bailing out SirAlex and United even when they play crap) when we needed goals like against Swansea & Liverpool. 3) Because our board sold Raul & Essien and did not buy 2 quality Pivot players to replace them. 4) the only CF that knew how to put the ball @the back of the net(Danny) was injured.

Lamp cant play forever. The system we play now does not suit him, dont be blinded by his goals. Lamps cannot dominate games from midfield, and I dont blame him cos that is not his style, he played his best footie in the 4-3-3 system where he had a creative mid like Deco alongside him with a destroyer behind like Essien/Ballack/Makalele, all he had to do was play short passes, time his runs and look for spaces in the oppositions box to score goals. Thats Lampard for you. He is not a Pivot player, he is not getting any younger, Oscar, Mata, KDB & Hazard are very good goal scorers and will only get better with time.

What most VC members dont know is, the Pivot is key to the 4-2-3-1 system. Dimaria-Ozil-CR7 combo dont have to come deep to collect the ball as Khedira-Alonso will mark hard, collect the ball from the opposition and quickly move it forward to them so they can do their job easilly. Have you seen the strength of Bayern's Pivot??? God!! Their forward 4 dont have to do much defending they just concentrate on attack and attack, no wonder they score plenty goals. At Chelsea, Mata-Hazard-Moses & Oscar have to come so deep to collect the ball as Rami & Lamps cannot release those juicy balls quickly, by the time our front 4 come deep to get the ball the opposition defence would have recovered and come back to their positions of mass defending, leaving our forward 4 with a mountain to climb. That's why our CF's dont get many clear cut chances compared to Carlo's double winning squad where he had Lamps-Ballack-Deco in Midfield and Joe Cole/Anelka-Drogba-Malouda/Kalou, crazy in midfield, solid in defence & explosive in attack, very similar to Bayern's present team.

I have high hopes for Ake and Chalobah, they will make fantastic Pivot players, Ake is a typical destroyer in the Pivot duo but the interesting thing about him is his passing is smooth and pin-point, he is an intelligent passer of the ball and reads the game well, he made a lot of vital interceptions against Boro and he is only 18.

SameX.Lampard has been in magnificent form since returning from injury.Yes,the current Chelsea squad needs Lampard very badly.He may be silent throughout the game but he scores the all important goal.Thats what match-winners like Lampard and Drogba.You have a fair point regarding Oscar,Mata and Hazard.But if it was the question of adapting,RDM too should have been given time.Unforunately,the owner wants immediate success and for him adapting and Chelsea don't exist in the same sentence.Even top players like Sheva and Crespo could not adapt.And what is Roman demanding,Mourinho is the best man for the job.Conte,Pellegrini,etc won't get the time to adapt.And mark my words,the first thing Mourinho will do would be asking the board to extend Lampard's contract and hand him a Giggs/Scholes kind of role,if De Bruyne and Josh flourish.I am sorry mate but if you are expecting Hazard,Mata,Oscar to be given more time to adapt,it won't happen.I 100% agree with you that they should be given time but Roman is bloody impatient.Lampard still has a huge impact on our results,with just a moment of brilliance,despite being silent throughout the game.With the $hit we are in,Mourinho is the best man to get us out of it.