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Mourinho Sets Hazard`s Objectives

The acquisition of Eden Hazard, last summer, saw Chelsea beat off a host of other clubs to land the exciting Belgian player.

Last August, when the new season started, Hazard started his Chelsea career like a house on fire, displaying an array of skills that looked as if he`d go on to become the star of the season.

But the Belgian faded and only raised his game to the level he displayed in those opening games towards the back end of the season.

In between there was that infamous squabble with the Welsh ball-boy, down at Swansea, and a few niggling injuries.

But, as the new season approaches, Jose Mourinho has challenged the young Belgian to raise his game to the next level to establish himself as a top class operative, with Mourinho remarking,

"I think the kid has a lot of talent, as everybody knows, but he has to go to the next stage."

"Football is about numbers. He has to transform his great talent into great numbers: how many goals, how many assists, how many winning goals, how many goals in big matches?"

"I`m ready to help him, I`m ready to work with him. And he must be ready too. He has to listen."

"I always say to these creative players that, if you have more talent than some of the others, you have to do more than the others."

"If you have this ability, you have got to use it. Go to score, go to produce, not to have fun or humiliate the opponent, or put the ball through their legs. Football is not about that."

"It is about being respectful and having objectives. With me, his objectives will be to get the ball from other players and try to dribble past one or two players, to go in the direction of the area. He will have freedom, but he will have objectives."


Will Hazard rise to that challenge? He certainly has the skills to and with Mourinho`s legendary man-management techniques, we see no reason why Hazard can`t make a significant impact this season, how about you?




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Date:Sunday July 28 2013

Time: 10:14AM

Your Comments

Agree with everything said. All 11 players need to play as a unit and single focus in games. We were dependent on individual brilliance quite a bit last season. Hazard has the potential to be a great player, needs a few tweaks here and there.
syed230183_chelseafc
He will be the best player in the league next year along with Oscar. I may be a bit biased towards chelsea but hey ho.
janner blue
When I saw that headline this morning I immediately thought of Joe Cole so wasn't surprised to see Jose mention him in the article. Joe definitely played his best football under Mourinho & added to his all round game. It will be up to Eden, does he have the mental strength to rise to the challenge, the single mindedness that, in any sport, sets the truly great apart from the supremely gifted who always remain "nearly men". Older fans- Alan Hudson, younger ones- Robben who, only now is becoming the player he should have been 10 years ago.
analooish
kdb is better than him in taking setpieces e.g corner kicks and free kicks...he often dribbles himself into trouble instead of taking shot or passing
Oyetunji Sunday
Jose starting to crank up his man management ahead of the season. Indeed joe cole played his best football under mourinho the problem was I don't think joe cole realised it at the time. The tough love Jose gave him was the most beneficial. After Jose left his performances (and sadly his career) gradually declined.
Nobleonenoble
I likes the messages passed to the team by the manager as a pilot of the team he knows what can lead to successful season,Hazard has to improve his game he has a potential and parameters to become a great footballer.he has to rise up and shake himself out of British media criticism on him.he need to forget being a kid and matured to the assignment on the field.up blue!
Olurotimi Abiodun
There's going to be tremendous competition for midfield places this coming season, not everyone will be content keeping the bench warm.
Since1963
chelsea will be brutal next season.mata will have 2 toughen up.last season he was sometyms frustratn against physical teams.I like oscar more.my line up 4 next season agnst physical teams lik city cech iva/azpi luiz terry cole essien rami hazard oscar debruyne/schurlle torres .agnst less physical teams.cech azpi luiz terry cole rami(dm) mikel(cm) hazard mata debruyne/schurlle torres.ds season is torres season
kakuta in Ghana
Hazard is already working on it.he's a beta marker than mata and he's improving day after day
Mydarling99
Hazard better playmaker than Mata??? You made my day with this comment mate.Mata's vision and ability to make that killer pass is unmatched in our team,the closest player to him is KDB whose advantage over Mata is his weak foot ability,but Juan is a natural born playmaker,if you watch the games versus QPR(a),Fulham(h) and Basel (a) when Mata was given rest you will know what I mean.
Simeon23
Im sorry,I misread.You are spot on,Hazard's defensive work-rate is better than Mata's and his pace certainly helps him.
Simeon23
im quietly confident he will be pfa player of the year next season. I am a bit worried about as I adore him but im worried he wont get the amount of game time he needs. Hope im wrong.
bluenath86
Hazard can become the best player in the world. He has that potential and if he listens to Mourinho and works really hard, he will get there, I am absolutely sure about that.
TafChels
All of you and see what will do this season. It is not easy to come other league and do what Hazard did. Check even Drogba record for the first season, he will perform to the level you are not expecting.
movich17
Did anybody read what mourinho said about mata.i think that should be enough for anyone who has doubts whether mourinho is going to retain him as regards what the media are saying.
Gbengarichard
'At Chelsea we have two Player of the Year awards - the fans' and the Players' Player of the Year, and the Players' Player of the Year was my invention,' he points out. 'The fans have one perspective and the players they have another - and in my time I was trying to make Claude Makelele the Player of the Year,' he laughs. 'Last season Mata won it from the fans and from his colleagues and that means a lot, so of course he fits in my plans.' The manager knows Mata's game well and has earmarked him for important roles in a balanced side. 'I have my idea about where and how he produces better and where he has more difficulty, but we are here to try to keep him performing when he is performing and to try to help him perform better in the situations where he has it more difficult. 'I like very much a right-sided player to be left-footed. I started with Robben and Duff and I kept that going at Inter with Pandev, and at Real Madrid with De Maria and Ozil. 'Here on tour in Asia I did it with the kid Bertrand Traore, and now everybody that can use the left winger on the right, and the opposite, does so. 'I like the wingers to come inside and on the left we have a lot - Hazard, Moses, De Bruyne. Juan is the only player we have to do that on the right but I also think he is very comfortable playing no.10, so between these two positions he has a lot to give to the team. 'I always say to these creative players that if you have more than the others, you have to do more than the others,' Mourinho says by way of a general conclusion.
Gbengarichard
As he works in pre-season on moulding the players into an effective team, Jose Mourinho has explained his attitude towards and requirements from the imaginative and skilful attacking players in the squad. With the manager returning to the club after six years away, it is understandable if the players involved in both eras are considered, and that is the case when Mourinho explains coaching and deploying the type of footballer who, with one dart, one trick, one inspired pass or shot can turn a worrying outcome to a game into a bright and productive one. Joe Cole was one of the footballers from Mourinho's first spell in London SW6 and some would say he played the best football of his career in those years. Certainly the player has spoken highly in the media about his former boss. ' Joe Cole was very enjoyable because he was the kind of player who everybody was saying was one of the best talents in the Premier League and in English football,' Mourinho recalls. 'But I made his life quite difficult because we transformed him together. He also accepted it and we transformed what people used to call the no.10 who is so talented he makes two or three fantastic actions and people are amazed, into a kind of inside winger, moving right and left, strong defensively. 'He was fantastic and I was so pleased with what we did with him. 'I am not the kind of guy that makes life easy for the great players,' he explains. 'If they are great they have to give more than the others, if they are great they cannot be happy with a few great things that they do.' Moving on to the present day, Mourinho speaks about two players it is hard to argue weren't the most influential going forward last season - Eden Hazard and Juan Mata . 'Hazard has a lot of talent, as everybody knows, and now he has to move from great talent to great numbers because football is about numbers. He has to transform his great talent into many goals, many assists, many winning goals, many goals in big matches. I am ready to help him, and he must be ready too.' On the subject of Mata, Mourinho is fully appreciative of the influence the 25-year-old has had since joining two years ago. 'At Chelsea we have two Player of the Year awards - the fans' and the Players' Player of the Year, and the Players' Player of the Year was my invention,' he points out. 'The fans have one perspective and the players they have another - and in my time I was trying to make Claude Makelele the Player of the Year,' he laughs. 'Last season Mata won it from the fans and from his colleagues and that means a lot, so of course he fits in my plans.' The manager knows Mata's game well and has earmarked him for important roles in a balanced side. 'I have my idea about where and how he produces better and where he has more difficulty, but we are here to try to keep him performing when he is performing and to try to help him perform better in the situations where he has it more difficult. 'I like very much a right-sided player to be left-footed. I started with Robben and Duff and I kept that going at Inter with Pandev, and at Real Madrid with De Maria and Ozil. 'Here on tour in Asia I did it with the kid Bertrand Traore, and now everybody that can use the left winger on the right, and the opposite, does so. 'I like the wingers to come inside and on the left we have a lot - Hazard, Moses, De Bruyne. Juan is the only player we have to do that on the right but I also think he is very comfortable playing no.10, so between these two positions he has a lot to give to the team. 'I always say to these creative players that if you have more than the others, you have to do more than the others,' Mourinho says by way of a general conclusion. 'If you have this ability, you have to use this ability. If you do it with one objective, to score goals or to create goals, do it. If you lose the ball then no problem, because you had a good objective in your mind - you wanted to score goals or you wanted to produce goals. 'When you do it for fun, when you do it in midfield and you lose the ball and after that you don't defend, and the team concede a goal, then that is a problem. 'But these players they make the difference, I never tell them you cannot do this and you cannot do that. You can do anything because you have more talent so go to score goals and go to produce. 'With me they will always feel that confidence to go at players, try to dribble past one or two players and go in the direction of the area. They will have this freedom. We had Joe Cole , we had Robben, we had Duff. 'At Real Madrid I had Cristiano Ronaldo, De Maria, Ozil. I always tell my players if you are different you are different, so do it.'
Gbengarichard
"If you have this ability, you have got to use it. Go to score, go to produce, not to have fun or humiliate the opponent, or put the ball through their legs. Football is not about that."...........hazard should take a cue from that and andre schurrle, both players had silly amounts of succesful dribbles last season from their individual stats, I believe it would be advantageous for the team at the long run, pheeeew, the choice to pick one of oscar/KDB and schurrle to start with hazard and mata in the band of three, mr mou, I really don't envy you.
Desmondadonis
Am happy Mou sees what I have been observing and saying all along......which Benitez didn't see ofcourse.....that the best way to utilise the Mazarcar trio is to play Mata on the right and Oscar in the center with Hazard,ofcourse on the left....( but still give the three freedom to roam,interchange position and thus bamboozle the oppsition).... The second choice attacking trio then should be Shurrle on the left, Moses on the right(who can swap with Shurrle attimes)....and De Bruyne at the center (who should be given more freedom than the former two as he can move to the flanks and deep-lying position as well,since he is more of a hardworker that can tackle like Oscar).....
Samuel Chimezie
This article is good n its nice 2 see members contributing in it,our season will hugely depend on those 2 players-Mata n Hazard.
blue5
With Shurrle De Bruyne and Moses we tend to use the flanks more often and are more direct....( I think this suits a more counter-attacking setup).....but with the Mazarcar we tend to be more entertaining and proactive and play attacking ,intimidating, posession-based football that makes use of the center more than the flanks.... I think this will suit more against teams that play with spaces we can exploit....
Samuel Chimezie
I'll prefer -mata-kdb-Hazard for first choice,then -moses-oscar-schurlle 2nd choice.
blueozone
Aww!sorry y'all that wants oscar to be benched,its like oscar is a definition of Mourinho's kind of number 10,he said "we have Hazard schurlle,kdb and moses on the left which means he classifies them primarily as a winger" I am not saying they wouldn't play centrally though
Hazard11
Jose knows exactly the right words to say,psychological Man management in action there on Hazard.
nelyvanile
De Bruyne is a bit more direct than Oscar.....and more than almost all of our players that can play in the No 10 role.....except Shurrle..... I stiil feel that De Bruyne is a bit not up to Oscar's level or Oscar's full potential yet.....althiugh he's not far behind.... Oscar, I feel, is a more better tackler,works more...(although the stats say De Bruyne covers more ground than Oscar does but Oscar is more of a small-but-mighty kind of fighter)...., Oscar also tends to read the game better.,and (I feel) is more creative.... But De Bruyne is better in covering ground, in set pieces and corners and in all-round play.....and is more direct...But they're both suited for different occasions...like I said earlier,when you want a possesion based game,Oscar is a better option I think ...but for direct,counter-attacking play I prefer DeBruyne.... That's why I chose Oscar among thhe Mazarcar and DeBruyne among a Shurrle-Moses combo....Just saying though.....
Samuel Chimezie
Great that Mou regards mata as a winger,he has always been in that position since valencia and played from wings his first months with great effect,but of recent when I point out it is the best for the good of the team,some still disagreed, play Mata from right wing and put Oscar centrally to get the best of both of them for the good of the team,not sacrificing Oscar on the wings with less effectiveness and putting mata centrally just for mata to perform,Mata is a special talent that can play anywhere,so let's relish his talent,this interview shows that Mou sees hazard and mata as the lynch pin of this team,which very good for everybody
Obinnio
De Bruyne is a bit more direct than Oscar.....and more than almost all of our players that can play in the No 10 role.....except Shurrle..... I stiil feel that De Bruyne is a bit not up to Oscar's level or Oscar's full potential yet.....although he's not far behind.... Oscar, I feel, is a more better tackler,works more...(although the stats say De Bruyne covers more ground than Oscar does but Oscar is more of a small-but-mighty kind of fighter)...., Oscar also tends to read the game better.,and (I feel) is more creative.... But De Bruyne is better in covering ground, in set pieces and corners and in all-round play.....and is more direct...But they're both suited for different occasions...like I said earlier,when you want a possesion based game,Oscar is a better option I think ...but for direct,counter-attacking play I prefer DeBruyne.... That's why I chose Oscar among thhe Mazarcar and DeBruyne among a Shurrle-Moses combo....Just saying though.....
Samuel Chimezie
Hazard is the only player in our team that has a very good chance to challenge Messi and Ronaldo for the World Player Gong. Kid has everything and i hope Mourinho realises this and really helps him. Ancelloti saw this in Kaka and he helped him develop into that big star. Kaka wasnt very powerful but the coach made the team play to his strengths. He will do the same with Ronaldo next season and Kaka might just resurrect his career as well....My concern for Hazard regarding the said individual accolade is that Mourinho is quite different. The team comes before any player and Mourinho will not change a thing to make Hazard excel. Having said that,the onus is on the player to work twice as hard though and with luck,who knows....we might have a strong contender in our team.... CHELSEA'S HAZARD WINS THE WORLD PLAYER OF THE YEAR WILL BE SOMETHING TO BRAG ABOUT FOR MORE THAN A YEAR!!! LOL Carefree.
3nity
@3nity I disagree with you, Jose puts the team before any player but whenever he sees a player with a World Class ability he tries to make them even better, he builds the team around them & they become devastating, CR7 became a phenomenal goal scorer under Jose, Sneijder almost won the ballon d'or with Jose as his Maanager & Lamps was 3rd best player in the world with Jose..... I think Jose has seen a Ballon D'or contender in Eden Hazard thats why he is saying all this, he doesnt want to praise him too much so he would not relax, he wants him to work harder so he can become much more effective to a point where he would be called the World best player. Look at our last game against Indonesia all stars, Hazard was our outlet, all our attack went through him, that says alot about how much Jose rates him.
SameX
@Samuel KDB is more creative than Oscar and is a better #10 for now..... You may not agree but I know time will tell, KDBs movements, goal threat and creativity are superior to Oscars. Though I think Jose will continue with MaZaCar cos Mata is the most creative player in our Squad, can bang in goals and has a great understanding with Hazard- a player Jose will play regularly cos of his huge potential, workrate, drive & skills. Many think Jose will play KDB with Mata & Hazard but that will leave us too light cos Mata & KDB are poor defensively, Oscar will complete the trio in the attacking band cos of his workrate, passion, defensive awareness and bravery, Oscar aint scared of anyone no matter how huge or classy you may be, he will make sure you dont get past him easilly & mark you out where neccesary, I see Jose falling is love with Oscar. Schurlle-Kevin-Victor will form the second band.
SameX
@SameX- I agree with you that Sneijder did well and Super Frank became world class under Jose but regarding the Ronaldo point,i beg to differ. Ronaldo is and has always been a hard worker.The last to leave the training ground even before Jose got to madrid. This is a man that scored 46goals in a Premier league season at a younger age. He has always been phenomenal and he simply peaked around the time Mou was at Madrid. Pls note,im not trying to slate Mou in anyway,your points regarding Sneijder and Lamps are very good examples though. If not for the blatant robbery,Sneijder should have won the gong that year.
3nity
Mata is our Gareth Bale. So far no one can touch him
pancake
Spot on @ trinity and samex. Imo I believe oscar is a sure starter.... The attacking unit will be built arround oscar as lampard of old
Finney_angel
When I pointed it out last season to layorh12 in an article back then, I received a reaction that is not agreeable to some, mata is our best creative player which is a given and I believe he'll be important for us, if mou can make him replicate his brilliance in the RW this season and oscar in no.10 attaining the brilliance he operates with the samba boys and hazard stepping up his game, I believe we'll be formidable, but is oscar ready to make that no.10 his own? Kdb have been great so far during preaseason and he'll give both players a run for their money, same with schurrle (for a starting berth in schurrle's case)
Desmondadonis
hazard should aim at 20+ goals this seaason!
yash_blue
Mourinho, always his own man, also knows he must learn to work with sporting director Michael Emenalo, who Roman Abramovich has insisted will remain in charge of player recruitment.....
@Mq
^^^^Nuff said
@Mq
@Desmond, I actually do remember that conversation...but now is crunch time, let us wait and see what Mourinho does....but meen, I dont want to be in his position right now...even without any more signings, the possibilities are endless most especially in the attacking band of three, I will Mourinho good luck, as he continues to tinker, and I wish chelsea a fantastic season ahead....it felt deeply good watching klopp tear Pep's Bayern into shreds, following Bayern's flying start to pre-season You can call it beef, I cant be bothered meeen...lol....Super cup will also be very interesting, Bayern looks better than us on paper in my eyes, but we will see.....COYMFBS!
layorh12
**wish Mourinho good luck....
layorh12
VITAL CORRECTION @SameX: Lampard was FIRST RUNNER-UP behind the unplayable and mercurial Ronaldinho in 2005. Thus, he was 2nd best player in the world, NOT 3rd! Rather, Samuel Eto'o and Ronnie's Barca teammate came 3rd. Get the link here: news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/4486166.stm
HGH Magic
Guys let's take it easy on our hopes and aspirations for hazard. Ballon d'or winner? as much as I love him, its not going to happen. Now let me explain. In the next 3-4 seasons messi and ronaldo will still be the in the top 3 positions leaving only one position remaining. There are obviously more better players than hazard with chances of taking the third spot like neymar, bale, iniesta and so many I can't recollect right now. No matter how hazard improves under mourinho he cannot dislodge messi or ronaldo at least for the next 3 years. Even after that, hazard 26 by that time will find it much harder to compete with neymar or bale if they continue their development. So I think we should just see how far he goes in his second season with the club and first with mourinho before getting our hopes high. And I don't need to add the fact that we are have been branded 'football's enemy' by uefa, So any chance of our player becoming world's best is a wild dream.
don delsy
^^^@don delsy...I am sorry mate, while I agree that that fans need to taper expectations as far as Hazard is concerned, I am afraid your post above hugely discount Hazard's abilities and that is soo wrong...''There are obviously more better players than hazard with chances of taking the third spot like neymar, bale, iniesta and so many I can't recollect right now.''...First it seems you have forgotten Iniesta is 29yrs!....in three years from now, he will be 32 ffs!.....and dude, there is no basis to say that if Neymar and Bale continue their development at current rate, they will be better than Hazard...bruv, that is a grossly unfair statement to make....I have been watching Hazard for two seasons before he joined Chelsea and will tell you that I will easily take him over Bale every single time, right now (good luck to madrid bidding 100m Euros for Bale)...but this is my opinion...and as far as Neymar is concerned, it is very open...in terms of ability, I think Hazard and Neymar are pretty close ( maybe Neymar is a little better overall at the moment)...but I am also certain that in terms of mentality, Hazard is a lot stronger and has a far lower tendency to go missing in games....so there is absolutely no basis to conclude that if Bale and Neymar continue to develop at current rate, they will be better than Eden...big fallacy that one...you know its very easy to discount your own....similar to two people that are dating...lol...I am even thinking...Is Bale better than Reus??.....I think not!.....anyways its my opinion....while we should not put huge pressure on Hazard, we also need to be careful not to discount his abilities and disrespect him....Can Hazard will Ballon d'or?...Absolutely Yes....I dunno what kinda of eyes you are using to look at it mate....may be you should watch Hazard's clips back at Lille, based on his first season at Chelsea, I can easily tell you that you have not seen one-tenth of what the boy can do...and I am dead serious...we will see...
layorh12
I beg to differ@don delsy.balon dor is judged on individual achievements n team accomplishments wit mourinho we will definitely win d leaque n b very competitive in europe.Hazard has a very gud chance if he can score atleast 20 n above goals dats y lampard was 2nd in 2005 bcus we we're winning d leaque n makin semi finals of champs leaque.wit d hype n skills of hazard anytin is possible
Donboboj
^^^Relax guys, no need looking into no crystal balls and stuff. Look no further - FIFA and UEFA are fixated on Messi. They have a fit. And any keen observer would safely tell you FIFA and UEFA have since lost the plot and the underlining criteria for giving the award out, otherwise do you think a Fabio Canavaro would've ever won it if it were this present day as they're currently doing!? Quote me: unless they review the criteria, Messi will keep on winning that gong till he retires! A winners' gong which has since lost it's significance or allure, ever since they ludicrously made him 'win' it in 2010 and 2012! Or can anyone tell me categorically what “international or intercontinental honour” he won those years to merit the award? Hell, do you think the voting by coaches and captains matter a hoot? Well, if you think it does then you my friends have got another think coming. An Iniesta to win the gong? Laughable. Chelsea's Eden Hazard or a British Gareth Bale? Pipe-dreams...especially with a certain Platininininini in charge of the continental body, and regrettably primed to succeed the aging and bald Swiss @FIFA. Believe you me, after the Messi era, it will be Neymar or any other “doped-up” Barcelona player! So, let our Hazard be, please. Let him just play his footie, 'cos anything else is hazardous to him, and to your comfort and happiness as a fan, trust me. End of.
HGH Magic
@layorh ^^^^ spot on!!!
Desmondadonis
@donboboj ur claim of fifa award being judged on personal and team achievements is a big mistake, 2010 champions league winners; inter, world cup finalists netherlands. Best player for both teams sneidjer. Uefa and fifa best player 2010: messi. 2012 champions league winner; chelsea. Best player: drogba, la liga winner: real madrid. Best player: ronaldo. Uefa and fifa best player 2012: iniesta and messi. @layorh, ur claims of iniesta being 32 at that time maybe justified but don't forget that at the same age xavi was still among the top 3 players. And comparing bale and reus? Pls. And i do not discount hazard's ability at all, am just facing reality. All what u said is based on fifa being just and unbiased in the way they pick the players, but am sure u don't expect fifa to name a chelsea player as the 'best in the world' at least in the near future. @hgh I totally agree
don delsy
@donboboj ur claim of fifa award being judged on personal and team achievements is a big mistake, 2010 champions league winners; inter, world cup finalists netherlands. Best player for both teams sneidjer. Uefa and fifa best player 2010: messi. 2012 champions league winner; chelsea. Best player: drogba, la liga winner: real madrid. Best player: ronaldo. Uefa and fifa best player 2012: iniesta and messi. @layorh, ur claims of iniesta being 32 at that time maybe justified but don't forget that at the same age xavi was still among the top 3 players. And comparing bale and reus? Pls. And i do not discount hazard's ability at all, am just facing reality. All what u said is based on fifa being just and unbiased in the way they pick the players, but am sure u don't expect fifa to name a chelsea player as the 'best in the world' at least in the near future. @hgh I totally agree
don delsy
Yeah,although he might deserve to win it in future,i don't see hazard winning it in chelsea.With the kind of politics going on,it will be hard for hazard to win the ballon'd'oor.I totally lost my trust for fifa after last year's ballon'd'oor.A balon'd'oor that was dominated by the la liga(mainly madrid and barca) with no epl player even part of the Fifa XI. After the reign of messi,i see another la-liga player replacing him and that is most likely to be neymar or probably C.Ronaldo again or a player from any other league(Germany or spain) but not from the EPL .Hazard might make the top 3 in future,but as long as he is in chelsea or in the EPL,i don't see him ever grabbing the no.1 award. Maybe if he goes to barca or madrid(which i pray won't happen),he might then have a chance.
blueozone
I support this article 100 percent.
Clever Adams
for the past 4 seasons (some might even say 5) who has been "realistically" been better than Messi??
@Mq
^^^^I been reading some people claim Snieder should've won it in 2010, Sneider really?? What was so "world's best" about Snieders performance, couldn't even score double figures or have the best assist record in Europe, and some "experts" reckon he deserved the nod. Is winning the Champs league now the criteria to be worlds best?? If that was the case then why not a Chelsea player be touted after our Champs League "heroics"?? It's a pity hatred and envy is substituted for reason....
@Mq
There's no footballer, Champs League winner or not, that has deserved the award more than Messi for the past 4 seasons. Some might argue Ronaldo deserved it sometime but look at the stats, goals scored+assists per game for both players and you'll see a strikingly different picture. Infact, not for Messi then Ronaldo would probably be worlds best, but no1 has the talent, match-winning & game-changing ability and has mustered the returns Messi has and for that reason alone MESSI IS THE WORLDS BEST PLAYER. Funny how some "internet expert" thinks he's cleverer than all football fundi *smh*
@Mq
@don delsy.....while I agree that it would be extremely difficult to dislodge Messi ,Ronaldo and some others from Balon d'Or in the next year,I do feel if he keeps growing and improving at a geometric rate as he's been doing....or even at a faster rate....in the next two or three years he CAN win it....if and only if one of the following happens.....: 1. Real Madrid become stronger than Barca and ends up beating Barca consistently to the title....Messi being Messi can hardly be predicted to ever start depreciating on his number of goals he scores per season.....especially with a 'duopollitan' league like the La Liga......but even if he scores a hundred,if he does not win a title that season, even if it's the Copa Del Rey,and Chelsea wins the Premier League and maybe Champions League and/or more titles with Hazard being instrumental,Hazard would stand a chance.....also 2. If Hazard has a higher goals per game ratio or assists than many of his contenders and maybe something like a longterm injury or something happens to Ronaldo and/or Messi....and he wins more trophies than his contenders he will deffinitely have a chance.... On a serious thought, am not sure Messi would remain in the spotlight from UEFA as he has been for the past four seasons...as I feel everyone would be eager to find a way to find his successor,since monopoly is monotonous and boring....and I disagree that he could win it till he retires...
Samuel Chimezie
^^^ Typically feisty defence of Messi. I was expecting it from the "lover" of all things Barca, Messi and Spain. lolllll !!! Some opinions expressed against the above establishment and their "lover" comes waltzing out of the woodworks!! loll!! .....................
syed230183_chelseafc
@mq with all his game changing and match winning abilities, where did he take argentina to in the world cup when a certain sneijder was spearheading holland, how many goals did messi score in that world cup, where were is abilities when inter driven by sneijder threw them out of the champions league, where were they when germany whitewashed argentina, where was his abilty when chelsea dumped them out of the champions league last 2 seasons, where was he when bayern spelt "CAMP NOU". So much for being the "world's best player".
don delsy
@Don delsy...Bale is a fantastic player..but the hype you are giving him is way too much...I put it to you again directly that..Bale is not better than hazard in any way....simples...as far as the Ballon d'or is concerned, my argument is solely hinged on footballing ability of the players...which is also the sense I got from your first post before @hgh introduced the Uefa madness which makes a lot of sense and you leveraged on @hgh's post to find an outlet for your arguments.....so maybe I should rephrase...I will take Hazard over Bale every single day of the week and Neymar and Hazard are presently at similar levels.....if both Bale and Neymar continue to grow at the current, they will not be better than Eden, who will also continue to develop.....Hazard is a fantastic player and a rare talent....younger and better than Bale....so no way he will be behind bale if they develop at similar rate....stop discounting the poor lad...and I will say it again, Bale is not better than Reus in terms of overall ability in footballing terms...end of.
layorh12
Spot on @mq...it's really a pity when people allow hatreed and envy be an object of their reasoning
Ken4CFC
^^^^^To be acknowledged as the worlds best, you need to excel in your field in a manner than no1 else has, and which player has been doing that individually for the last 4 seasons?? Stop being myopic some of you's
@Mq
@mq with all his game changing and match winning abilities, where did he take argentina to in the world cup when a certain sneijder was spearheading holland, how many goals did messi score in that world cup, where were is abilities when inter driven by sneijder threw them out of the champions league, where were they when germany whitewashed argentina----------------------if you use that as the basis of your reasoning then it is flawed. Torres has won many an "intercontinental or international honor" right from the Euro's 2008 till Euro's 2012, actually he's scored in every tournament thus creating a record. Should he, because he has won "intercontinental or international honors" suddenly be worlds best player??
@Mq
Only "intelligent" people think Snieder or any other player has been better than Messi in the last 4 seasons. The rest of us people including all of EUFA, The Managers, Coaches, Captains, journalists and all those who vote for Messi are "foolish" ;)
@Mq
Messi is best player in the world at the moment in my opinion...I think he is just a little better than Ronaldo, Messi is a fantastic player..cant argue against the awards he has won.....I am happy he came to the scene during my time and Its such a pleasure to watch him and Ronaldo....class players...no beef.
layorh12
@samuel, I agree with ur views but those conditions are based on probability.
don delsy
@samuel, I agree with ur views but those conditions are based on probability. And I don't think uefa and fifa are ready to award any epl player the title.
don delsy
^^^Yes, BEST PLAYER. Maybe that's why Barcelona was “spanked silly” by Bayern Munich 8-0 in 180mins of “open” football, with the so-called 'best player' feigning “injury and ill-health” in the remaining 90mins, having already tasted the HARD pudding in the first 90mins. Yes, that's why the “HGHeg One” has only managed a SOLITARY World Cup goal in a career spanning 7 years, while Sneijder alongside two others won “joint” highest goal scorers award. I see your logic and 'wisdom'. Keep it up. *smh*
HGH Magic
^^^@mq
HGH Magic
Interesting thing is who wins Balon D'Or next January 2014. B'cause 2013 has been a very "Bavarian" year!! lol!
syed230183_chelseafc
How many world cup goals does rooney???does that make him a terrible player overnight??..the world best player is not judged by the amount of goals you score in world cups..
Ken4CFC
^^ Heynckes would get the manager's award without a shadow of a doubt, the best player award, remains to be seen.........
syed230183_chelseafc
How many world cup goals does rooney???does that make him a terrible player overnight??..the world best player is not judged by the amount of goals you score in world cups..
Ken4CFC
How many world cup goals does rooney have???does that make him a terrible player overnight??..the world best player is not judged by the amount of goals you score in world cups..
Ken4CFC
@Samuel - hope u understand I was only going satirical in saying the “HGHed One” would win it till he retires. *winks*
HGH Magic
How many world cup goals does rooney have???does that make him a terrible player overnight??..the world best player is not judged by the amount of goals you score in world cups..
Ken4CFC
@Hgh..are you seriously comparing Messi with Sniejder?....common.!!...the level of talent differs vastly in my eyes....without bias, Messi and C Ronaldo are a class above every other professional footballer in the world at the moment....I dont like Barcelona, FIFA disgusts me...but Messi is the best player in the world in my eyes...I have friends that think C Ronaldo is a better overall footballer...and I fully understand their tot process...it can be argued....but my personal reference is messi.....and I cant compare Messi/ C Ronaldo with Sniejder...meeen the gap in talent is way too wide...even though Sniejder used to be a world class player....there is no argument here..lol
layorh12
How many world cup goals does rooney have???does that make him a terrible player overnight??..the world best player is not judged by the amount of goals you score in world cups..
Ken4CFC
@Layor12-- agreed. Those 2 are on a different level altogether!
syed230183_chelseafc
**personal preference is messi...lol
layorh12
@ken, when did u hear of someone winning the ballon d'or the previous year and failing to score a single goal in the following world cup. And no one's disputing the fact that messi's a great player, but he didn't deserve all the four ballon d'or awards he won.
don delsy
Some of the four, I meant.
don delsy
Absolutely not, Layorh12. Messi > Sneijder without a doubt!!! Are u kidding me? Goes without saying, buddy. My point is that Messi NEVER deserved the 2010 award he 'won'. Period! C'mon, don't let the Barca fanboy currently m.as.q.uerading as a fan here sway your superior knowledge. Except, of course, you can prove to me that Fabio Canavaro was the “most talented and best player in the world” throughout the footballing year of 2006 - as they're “now” claiming an individual award in a World Cup year doesn't “now” matter! That's my point. [And you might want to note that I'm a conservative...a football traditionalist, if you will]. Pretty scientific, huh? Now, I want a scientific response. C'mon buddy. Shoot.
HGH Magic
ure very wrong @mq.wat oustanding thing did messi do in 2010.lets get enlighten.In 2010 messi won la liga n was highest goal scorer in champs leaque in which he was knocked out by sneiders inter.Sneider mashalled inters midfield n dey won d treble n he took holland to d world cup final,if dats nt enough to win d balon dor,then players like owen ,canavaro,kaka shud av neva won it.ok if u say sneider was nt captivating,hw abt a certain iniesta that won la liga n also scored d goal that hand spain their 1st world cup.any person that stil thinks messi deserved d award dat year is nt a football fan.point 2note:In 2010 messi was leveled on overall goal wit cr7 on 42goals, cr7 also won d pichichi dat yr(la liga highest goal scorer).Thus d only thing messi did was to b d highest goal scorer in d champs leaque n to go to d world cup n b humiliated wit argentina n nt score a single goal in a world cup.Embarassing for d world best player @ dt time ,den platini still deemed it fit to hand him d award.since 2010 dt award has been trash
Donboboj
Thanks and Bravo for your steadfastness @don delsy!!! That's what I'm talking about! Cue, even Sepp Blatter himself coming out to question the award the “HGHed One” 'won' in 2010! (wish I could find that link) Phew!
HGH Magic
the best brains in footie say Messi is the best. The Managars, club captains & Journalists vote for Messi as the world best. Apparently some person on the internet who calls himself "HIGH MAGIC" thinks they are all foolish and he's the genius...Lmao
@Mq
sneider was nt even among top 3 nominees in 2010.2010 was a year of absolute shock for all football lovers
Donboboj
@Mq.....all the while I've been reading posts on this site for the past 3 years anonymously..... I have noted your seeming bias towards Barca,Messi, (....and who would forget Benitez as well) with a rueful smile.... To be honest....mq....am not trying to pick a fight,I hope you understand.....honestly....but this is simply something I've observed.... I gotta give it to you though..... I admire your courage, and despite you getting some stick most times when you have an opposing oppinion...you still remain oppinionated and strong-willed..... Kudos. But attimes I've been wanting to ask you this....which club among Chelsea and Barca do you love more....? Please am not questioning your loyalty to the club but just wanted to know your oppinion.
Samuel Chimezie
To put this in perspective, my friend Layorh12. I believe you share the popular opinion(I do), that Ronaldinho is the most talented player after, say, Zidane or Figo, or Ronaldo de Lima(depending on your tastes, of course). But my question is: do you think Kaka who most deservedly won the 2007 award(courtesy of winning the Champions League), ahead of Ronaldinho, was the “more talented” footballer of the two? That's assuming the nouveau criteria(mostly novelty) of handing the award based on “talent” alone is anything to go by? Also, please explain to me how defenders, or goalkeepers could have ever won(like in the good old days), or ever win the award, if the sole criteria is “talent” alone. Thanks in anticipation ;)
HGH Magic
@HGH....now I fully get your point....cant remember the events of 2010 as deep as I would have loved to, so I cant really comment a lot on the happenings at the time...But I do remember Sniejder had a fantastic year in 2010 under Mourinho....he was world class....maybe he should have won it ahead of messi in that year.....its a difficult one for me as I cant vouch for Uefa one bit....they are a bunch of dirty tits..lol!!
layorh12
@layorh12 dis all u nid to know concernin 2010 balon dor.wat oustanding thing did messi do in 2010.lets get enlighten.In 2010 messi won la liga n was highest goal scorer in champs leaque in which he was knocked out by sneiders inter.Sneider mashalled inters midfield n dey won d treble n he took holland to d world cup final,if dats nt enough to win d balon dor,then players like owen ,canavaro,kaka shud av neva won it.ok if u say sneider was nt captivating,hw abt a certain iniesta that won la liga n also scored d goal that hand spain their 1st world cup.any person that stil thinks messi deserved d award dat year is nt a football fan.point 2note:In 2010 messi was leveled on overall goal wit cr7 on 42goals, cr7 also won d pichichi dat yr(la liga highest goal scorer) .Thus d only thing messi did was to b d highest goal scorer in d champs leaque n to go to d world cup n b humiliated wit argentina n nt score a single goal in a world cup.Embarassing for d world best player @ dt time ,den platini still deemed it fit to hand him d award.since 2010 dt award has been trash
Donboboj
..... Thanks @mq but to be honest..... I tend to abhor and avoid fans who spew insults or sacarsm at other fans who tend to have a contrary view to theirs.....or who degrade or debase other people's oppinion simply because it is contrary to public view or their own....or who view differing views with contempt....and to be honest mq.... I think yoour views would have been more repected and you wouldn't be getting much of the backlash you get when you convey your views without doing these things.....just as I feel you and HGH magic do attimes....
Samuel Chimezie
"Football is about numbers. He has to transform his great talent into great numbers: how many goals, how many assists, how many winning goals, how many goals in big matches?"..........Jose Mourinho said these words
@Mq
^^^^^tell me a time ANY PLAYER IN THE WORLD has surpassed Messi for the last 4 seasons regarding the "numbers"....then you have the audacity to claim Sneider should've been world best LoLest
@Mq
Hazard is the only player in our team that has a very good chance to challenge Messi and Ronaldo for the World Player Gong. Kid has everything and i hope Mourinho realises this and really helps him. Ancelloti saw this in Kaka and he helped him develop into that bigstar. Kaka wasnt very powerful but the coach made the team play to his strengths. He will do the same with Ronaldo next season and Kaka might just resurrect his career as well....My concern for Hazard regarding the said individual accolade is that Mourinho is quite different. The team comes before any player and Mourinho will not change a thing to make Hazard excel. Having said that,the onus is on the player to work twice as hard though and with luck,who knows....we might have a strong contender in our team.... CHELSEA'S HAZARD WINS THE WORLD PLAYER OF THE YEAR WILL BE SOMETHING TO BRAG ABOUT FOR MORE THAN A YEAR!!! LOL Carefree. 3nity------------------------A sweet & inspiring dream to hang on to.
Stmichael Stmikhailz
Guys, there's no point arguing over what was decided through a vote..... Messi is a genius and deserves world footballer award in any of the years he won.... Of course, it's natural for some people to have other opinion or candidate...but com'on.... Messi is a global star, loved by many and will always easily win votes ahead of Sneijder.... David Beckham won a treble with Manchester United in 1999 but still didn't win the award, Rivaldo won it and Beckham came second.... So, I don't think winning treble with your team is all it takes.... Moreover, some analysts may argue that Sneijder is not the most important player in that treble winning Inter team....
Latunvic
then again, why bring people the "misery" of reality if they are joyful in deceit ;)
@Mq
I don't understand why I should be labelled "Barca fan boy" for correcting the BLATANTLY OBVIOUS misconception who's prevalence is only exceeded by the support for those of similar thinking....it's like a popularity contest on VC, the more incredible the lies (especially referring to Barca) the greater the support.....sad really....
@Mq
Messi is currently the best player in the world but in 2010, the world knows that schneijder was on another level, messi did not deserve it in 2010 and there is no amount of stats that will sway my opinion from what I know.
Desmondadonis
Well, if don't think Messi would have won it if he didn't deserve it.... Go ask people in other parts of the world and you will discover that more people feel Messi deserves it.... Only a minute fractio of football fans will argue that Messi doesn't deserve it.... I love Sneidjer, I want him here, but even at his best, he was never ahead of or better than Messi. Maybe you guys should check up their individual achievements and performances between August 2009 - December 2010 before you begin to lament....
Latunvic
did Messi really bribe all those Managers, captains, journalists etc just to make sure he wins WPOY2010 and Sneijder not even be in the top3??
@Mq
Look to be honest no need to be sentimental about this guys....the article was about Hazard and not Messi....but it's not a sin to divert into other topics as well....if only we can keep it civil and not annoyingly emotional or sentimental.... To be objective I know without doubt that Messi is the best player in the world...and like others have said he and C.Ronaldo are a class above all other players....but Messi edges Ronaldo by some small but substantial amount. What I do feel is that the Balon d'Or is supposed to consider individual ablitly ansd success together with team contribution ad collective success in terms of trophies and the like.... If it is done in that way as it has been done for best manager awards,then I do feel(in my oppinion) that Messi in the last four years should have legitimately won two and not four of those awards that is 2012 and 2011.... But what we were supposed to discuss is Hazard's potential and capability to surpass both....as Mou surely would love to see....But @mq I didn't brand you a Barca fan....you don't get me.... I wish I could chat with you on a one-on-one basis maybe on Whatsapp or something....and am not joining others in the bashing train against you....my question about which of Chelsea and Barc you love more isn't bashing....at least it wasn't intended as such ,neither did I intend to acompany it with any mode of sarcasm or mockery....but it was simply a honest question....it's not bad to be honest.... But if you aren't comfortable with it and it's a bit too personal to you....no qualms,guy...ok....
Samuel Chimezie
^^^Well Barca fanboy m.as.q.uerading as a 'Chelsea fan', I haven't seen anyone call anyone “foolish” or any other slur or insult on this thread, just for having a differing opinion or holding unto same, until you emanated from wherever. Well, if you say you're “foolish”, who am I to argue otherwise with you? lolEst ;)
HGH Magic
@don delsy,there is always a 1st time..it was decided by vote,or are u implying that messi rigged the vote??all those professional coaches,managers and journalist cant all be wrong
Ken4CFC
Spot on, my bro Desmond! Funny how easily you can spot younger fans and newbies to the game as they easily give themselves and their statuses away, as if football started with Lionel Messi. Now I most respectfully ask, before “they” once again take Mourinho's “numbers bit” about Eden Hazard out of context - as “they” always do...especially the @mq dude. Please, what was George Weah's, Rivaldo's, Lius Figo's, Zidane's, Ronaldinho's, Canavaro's or Kaka's “numbers” when they deservedly and incontroversially WON their respective individual FIFA WPOTY gongs as compared to the respective “numbers” of their contemporaries like the gloriously effervescent Raul Gonzalez or the masterful and evergreen Clarence Seedorf, or the ridiculously gifted and majestic Roberto Baggio(OMG!!!), or goal-machines Miroslav Klose and Alan Shearer, or Eric Cantona, Francesco Totti, Alesandro Del Piero, Pipo Inzaghi, Paul Scholes, David Beckham, Ole Gunnar Solkjaer, Andy Cole, Matt Le Tissier, Ryan Giggs, our own Gian Zola and Eidur Gudjohnsen or Jimmy Floyd Hasseilbank, Patrick Kluivert, Van Nisterooy, Audriy Shevchenko or Thierry Henry? Assuming, of course, “numbers” is all that matters...though obviously, “oldies” like me and others, like @Desmond and @don delsy know better. Also, “they” would all do well to educate us how an Iniesta or a Xavi managed to come runners-up to Messi even when C.Ronaldo, Falcao, Cavani, Mario Gomez and Van Persie far outscored everyone else in the calendar year save for the said Messi. C'mon, let's talk “numbers”. It's all about the “numbers”, isn't it? Let's perhaps begin with the Fabio Canavaro “talent” and “numbers”, shall we? lol... So much for knowledge and credible argument. *smh*
HGH Magic
*uncontroversially
HGH Magic
Ok,lets all accept that Messi is the best player in the world.But he is not a football god to win it four times in a row,that is just FIFA losing their sanity.Ronaldo could have won it too especially last year when he led Portugal to the semis at the Euro all by himself and in terms of stats he was even with Messi so i kinda feel for the guy.I am also sympathetic to Snejder who was brutally discredited by FIFA.Ability is not measured by raw stats,it is measured by success.By that logic only strikers/wingers should be honoured which imo is a travesty of justice.On Hazard/Bale comparisons,if i have to be perfectly honest I would pick Bale anytime in the past season because Bale's all around performance was better,he literaly pulled Tottenham to the fourth place and scored a whole bunch of important goals which you cant say about Hazard certainly.But Eden is two years younger and he recently moved to the BPL,so he has a lot of space for improvement and he could surpass Bale's achievements by the time he is his age.Unfortunately I feel that Hazard has already been obsessed with stardom but Mourinho is the type of manager who will make him work hard to improve and kick his game to a different level.
Simeon23
@ken, u are damn funny, "there is always a first time". Lol. And messi didn't rig the vote, we all know who did. @hgh very spot on.
don delsy
Yes the votes are often rigged, just as any other voting in the world! Those captains,coaches or journalists don't have to be all wrong, but bloody rigged!! We're talking about tradition and pure, hard, logical, cold and glaring FACTS on ground here!!! If in doubt please asked national captains such as our own Jose Mourinho or journalists like Tommy Smyth, Gabriel Marcotti or Steve Nicol, or captain Steven Gerrard, or ask what captains like Goran Pandev and Iker Casillas, or Nigeria's Joseph Yobo or Cameroun's Samuel Eto'o have to say about this voting processes @Ken4, especially since 2006! The votes don't bloody matter no more. Learn not to take everything hook, line and sinker the uninformed, gullible and hapless fans tell you. UEFA and FIFA just give it to who they like. Rather, try to engage and use your superior judgement - or do you seriously reckon Fabio Canavaro, for instance, was unanimously “voted” by all those with the voting franchise? Remember he was a Juventus player then? 'Nuff said.
HGH Magic
@HGH-- very well put argument mate. And yes my childhood favorite, the pony tailed Roberto Baggio was indeed gifted and majestic!! sighh nostalgic now!!
syed230183_chelseafc
*ask
HGH Magic
For all your argument HIGH you fail to even bring 1 player that has "bettered" Messi's ability in the last 4 seasons....Sniejder really?? Lmao
@Mq
^^^as for your "oldies" analogy it's like saying Hp, being the "oldies" of the PC world, were right to rightly turn down "touch technology" patents because though obviously, “oldies” like me and others, like @Desmond and @don delsy know better"....we all know what happened next...point is, being an "oldie" doesn't mean you are right ;)
@Mq
U guys should see the new Goal 50 list for last season. Its a horrible joke. Gist. Sunday mba is ahead of ibrahimovich, suarez.... to mention a few. www.goal.com/en/slideshow/4335/1/title/goal-50-2013?ICID=AR
don delsy
Absolutely @syed - The Divine Pony Tail, yet he won it only once, in 1993, where as he was miles ahead of his peers. Safe to say, in these days of numbers and talents, he'd have been winning eternally, as he seats proudly, majestically(and deservedly so), as the 4th Best Player in history, in the FIFA internet poll. But no, FIFA and UEFA were saner those good old days, and had to consider what “numbers and talents” helped a player's team to achieve too. Not just headlessly deifying a player simply because he is “a likable fellow”. Nostalgic feelings indeed, my bro.
HGH Magic
Well, @barca masquerade, if you can understand anything you'd see the thing hasn't always been about “ability”, numbers or talents but about what your so-called ability helped your team achieve in the year under review. AND IN A WORLD CUP YEAR, A PLAYER'S PLAY and ACHIEVEMENTS WERE FIRST CONSIDERED BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE!!! FFS, this is a team sport! And in South America(safe for his native Argentina) even Messi himself is ashamed and embarrassed that the has ONLY MANAGED A SOLITARY World Cup goal, against Serbia&Montenegro - a country that has since split up!!! Lol...And how come in all your mquestionable wisdom you haven't submitted any credible argument or explanation how Fabio Canavaro won the FIFA Balon d'Or in 2006?!? Was he the most “able, talented and numbered”, according to your junkie cannabis-HIGH logic?
HGH Magic
^^^Or even Kaka in 2007, ahead of the supremely “able”, “talented” and better “numbered” Ronaldinho, or Thierry Henry, assuming the folly “that team achievement don't matter a hoot” holds true? Huh? How come you're shying away huh, the HIGH bank “manayer”? Or have you gone back to cave to “get laid and paid” this time? ;)
HGH Magic
Got me sprung @mq only to cower at superior footie lessons? Oh well, I'm all yours when you man up. But get this straight at once - I don't care if this will be your first time of hearing this - Messi, your boy-god would be less than half the player he is today without the “HGH treatments” he got on the bills of Joan Laporta!!!!!!!!!!! The Human Growth Hormone enhances any performance - be it sport, or the performance with your missus. 'Cos I should know. Wesley Sneijder achieved more than the “HGHed One” in 2010! Cristiano Ronaldo is the better, natural and all-round gifted and “fair” athlete. Deal with it.
HGH Magic
You think The Supreme Divine doesn't have a sense of justice? Just start counting how many World Cup goals the HGHed One will amass by the time he retires from “our” sport! QED
HGH Magic
@don delsy,who did??prove it and please no lame assertions here
Ken4CFC
Mr HGH for all the list u rolled out,all they have done is talk the talk,which of them have proven a thing??i believe what i see on the FIFA website until the contrary is proven and not just sit anywhere and point baseless accusing fingers
Ken4CFC
Well Ken, you and I know how difficult and near impossible proving these things can be. Plus, no one really cares. Really. Same way Al Gore conceded defeat to George Bush Jnr even when he[and most of the world] knew he had won the 2000 US Presidential poll (remember how they had to count the ballots, and re-count and count, and re-count again and again until the establishment preferred candidate eventually 'won' in Florida, ironically governed by his brother). Hope you understand. Nobody's life depend on these kind of things - people just move on and let the establishment continue. *However, you'd do well to check out what happened to Hamman(the Qatari Asian Football Supremo) or Warner(Concacaf Chief and FIFA Vice President) when they dared “attempt” to challenge the powers that be. See how it works, buddy?
HGH Magic
Anyone who can move their short little legs as fast as Messi has to have been on HGH, LMAO!
BlueABS
^^^If officially “treated” with the steroid? Mostly YES. And cue this: they almost never get injured...like every other natural guy! YES, and that's hardly funny to laugh one's arse off ;(
HGH Magic
a first timer here.........i must say i love u guyz........uncle merlin ur doing a great job.......on d matter @ hand, i bliv hazard has wat it takes to be up there with cr7 nd messi, with jose on d bench, i bliv he can do it...
OscarGinkebryn
@HGH Magic- Messi "feigning" injury?? Thatw as one of the few games he was seriously injured, and even greatest players have their off days. What happened to Sneijder the season after? I know you hate Barcelona and everything associated with it, but saying Messi isnt the best player of last 5 years is just a joke. Like your favourite Mourinho put it- "Football is about numbers": Messi has the numbers in goals that no players in the history of European football did. and that is why he is the best. And forget about numbers, from a pure Aesthetic standpoint, watching Messi play is Magical. His shots, his dribbles, his passes. I hate Barcelona, but there is no doubt whatsoever about Messi's status as the best in the business. That is why footballing experts vote him with 70% majority as world's best. Period.
crazyforchelsea
For people who say Hazard isn't a Ballon D'or Contender or isnt as good as Isco, Gotze, Neymar, Shaarawy, you clearly haven't watched Hazard play and only watched his goals/highlights. The following link is just a little insight of some of his highlights and thats not even doing him justice. Besides, if only you saw his performances at Lille, Hazard is revered as a god back in France, the best player for two years in a row when he was 20!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYGhXoKG3A
chelsea1905
As for the Sneijder Messi debate. Dont crucify me but I think Sneijder deserved it. I'm not a messi hater and I have the utmost respect for his abilities. The man will go down as one of the best to ever play the game. In my eyes, he's currently only behind Pele, Maradona, Beckenbauer, Cruyff and level with Zidane. But going back to 2010, the reason why I thought Sneijder was the best was because he was the driving force, the actual leader everyone turned to when things weren't going well, and he delivered every time. He was the game-changer in CL games, he was the maestro that was the first to attack and defend. He linked up the whole team. And he didn't just do that for Inter. He was the same for Holland. He was not as fast as messi, nor as good as dribbling, or scoring and his stats weren't great. But he was the inspiration, he was the game changer who made sh@t happen when Sh@t needed to happen, and that is a hallmark of ALL teams that win major tournaments-game changers. The best players of all time are those who are consistently game-changers: Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Zidane, Beckenbauer, Messi, Lev yashin, Di Stefano, Best, Paolo Rossi, Socrates, Raul. Game changers in each of the previous CL wins are as follows: 2013-Robben, 2012- Drogba, 2011- Messi, 2010- Sneijder, 2009- Messi/iniesta, 2008- Ronaldo, 2007 - Kaka, 2006 - Ronaldinho, 2005 - Gerrard etc. etc. etc. This happens in every big tournament and that is why i believe Sneijder was the best player in 2010
chelsea1905
Sneijder was the best player in 2010....Lmao keep taking more of that "hater-ade" if it make's ya'll sleep at night. THE SANE WORLD knows Messi is the best player for the past 4 seasons running :)
@Mq
^^^^the internet "experts" seem to think they know better than 70% of the footie voting personnel who are actually actively involved in the game, not running sense-less comments on Vital Chelsea
@Mq
yea Mq, the same footie voting personnel who put Alves into the Fifa 11 ahead of players like Piszczek, Lichsteiner, Srna, Lahm etc. and Pique ahead of Kompany, Chiellini, Hummels, Barzagli and Marcelo ahead of Cole, Lahm. I doubt many of the people that do the voting can even spell Piszczek's name, much less put in on a ballot paper. I also doubt people watch the Ukrainian league, which is why they've never heard of Srna. Those same people also put marcelo in front of Pique, who missed half a season through injury and is reluctant to head the ball even though he's 6"4 ahead of a PLETHORA of world class defenders. Xavi as a defensive midfielder ahead of Vidal, Schweinsteiger, Toure, Busquets? As an "expert" in football and an intelligent bank manager, I thought you would have realised that these voting processes may not always be of the greatest representations of events.
chelsea1905
and Mq, are you denying everything I said? that Sneijder WASN'T the game changer for Inter in 2010. That the best players are the players who are consistently game-changers? I never said i hated Messi, as mentioned above, I think he's in the top 5 players of all time, just that in 2010, my personal opinion is that someone outshined him being an inspiration for his club team and his national team. Is that too difficult to swallow, someone else's personal opinion? I'm not trying to sway your opinion, I'm not stupid enough to try that, just letting you know of my opinion.
chelsea1905
And how come in all your mquestionable wisdom you haven't submitted any credible argument or explanation how Fabio Canavaro won the FIFA Balon d'Or in 2006?!? Was he the most “able, talented and numbered”, according to your junkie cannabis-HIGH logic?-------------how many "non attacking" players have won Worlds Best Player as a percentage compared to "attacking" players?? The answer to this therein lies the "numbers" Jose Mourinho was referring to. It takes a "phenomenal" performance for a "non attacking" player to win Worlds Best and in 2006, turns out Canavarro was most outstanding....comprande ;)
@Mq
Fabio Cannavaro was deservedly the best player in 2006. He was the game changer in world cup matches, and club matches. In case you haven't noticed, I put Beckenbauer and Lev Yashin, a defender and a keeper as players I regard as the best of all time. You dont have to be a game-changer in the sense of how many goals you score, you can be a game changer in the goal line clearances, the last ditch tackles, diving headers etc. He was the reason why Italy conceded only 2 goals in the whole world cup and he was a rock all season. I fully support him being given the Ballon d'or. Secondly, I said voting CAN be wrong, i never said they are always wrong. When Kaka won in 2007-deserved. Ronaldo in 08- deserved, Messi in 09, 11, 12 - deserved. I just dont agree with him being no.1 in 10 as I believe Sneijder had a greater impact on his team and on the games he played than Messi, simple.
chelsea1905
As an "expert" in football and an intelligent bank manager, I thought you would have realised that these voting processes may not always be of the greatest representations of events.----------NEVER said I was an "expert" in footie lad, ask me banking & finance ;)
@Mq
well if you're not an expert in football, then put forth your opinions constructively and NOT DISS OTHER PEOPLE'S COMMENTS AND OPINIONS WITH SARCASM, WINKFACES AND DEROGATORY COMMENTS!!! you are not in a position to do so! its really quite simple you know.
chelsea1905
Well it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Messi walks away with this year's award too, despite Bayern winning a treble. Before the awards commence on Jan 2014, Messi might bang in 20-25 goals, and CR7 would be sulking at 2nd place, and Balon D'or voters would have forgotten Bayern and their players. loll. But Heynckes not getting the manager's nod, for any reason, would be criminal. No one's even close.
syed230183_chelseafc
^^Just ignore the 27-year-old self-professed cannabis-dependent wee 'bank manager' Vital Chelsea resident barca-fanboy masquerading as a trolling Chelsea 'fan' who obviously just started watching sweet footie when Tom Ovrebo ended his refereeing career just for a pot of Catalan beans porridge and a couple of coins. Ignore him 'cos you know your football...you rock, and your football knowledge depth, awareness and mental capacity is OBVIOUSLY superior, unmistakable and glaring! Btw @mq - dude there's no such thing as “comprande”, but Comprende. Get it straight at once, mr manager. Ok? lol ;)
HGH Magic
^^@chelsea1905 - ^^Just ignore...
HGH Magic
Cue that @syed -- you can say that again mate.
HGH Magic
The day when any other player bangs in 70 goals in a season, we can start comparing
crazyforchelsea
Football is a team sport, and you need an entire team to perform at highest level for success. If Argentina has not done well with Messi, that indeed stops him from being greatest ever. But greatest amon the current players? there shouldnt be iota of doubt. Scoring a couple of hattricks and braces in a season would have been a great achievement- Messi did it double figures last season. That is just phenomenal. He has raised the benchmarks to a level that will be so difficult to meet. Had he not been playing for Barca- HGH you will singing his praises. I hate Barca, but be more objective. As Mourinho says- Football is about numbers for creative players. How many goals and how many assists- puts every argument to rest.
crazyforchelsea
“Puts every argument to rest” @crazy? Now I'll be damned! Says who? Dude, *smiles* why not keep your opinion to yourself and I'll do same FFS? However, it must be said you lost the plot here entirely, my friend. Argument is: did Messi and his team - barcelona and Argentina - achieve enough in 2010 to merit the Balon d'Or he controversially 'won'? Also, how come in two World Cups the supposed “best footballer boy-god bla bla bla ever” has only managed a SOLITARY goal against some of the weakest of weak oppositions, the then united Serbia & Montenegro? lol...please expansiate, explain and enunciate seeing as individual awards and “Football is about numbers for creative players”. lol... Talk of being objective. I love objective. And please, while you're yet at it - your “numbers” fit - kindly, on the same token, educate me how and why Iniesta and Xavi[guys who hardly score in double figures] managed to become runners-up to Messi, ahead of more prolific and better “numbered” guys like Falcao, Cavani, Mario Gomez, Van Persie, Marco Reus, Luiz Suarez, Wayne Rooney, Diego Costa, Ibrahimovich, Gareth Bale, Aguero, David Silva and, say, Lavezzi, Hamzik, Thomas Mueller, Arjen Robben, Ribery, Marchisio, Antonio di Natale, Balotelli, Mario Gotze or Juan Mata. Thanks so much in anticipation ;)
HGH Magic
Ok lets stick to one debate here- whether Messi is the best Player of the past 5 years. And just going by the sheer numbers, without a shadow of doubt, he is. last year, Bayern thrashed barcelona, does that make Bayern players better than Messi? If going by same account, George Best should not be considered a great player, no? Michel Platini shouldnt have won 3 ballon D'Or's in a row, right? Other ronaldo should have won first ballon D'or in 2002?
crazyforchelsea
Of the past four years definitely. three of the past four years he has definitely been. In 2010 Sneijder was better but other than that its fair to say Messi has dominated world football for nearly half a decade. The reason I say four is because 2008-2009 was when he won the Ballon D'or. In 2007-2008 Ronaldo was undoubtedly the best player
chelsea1905
“Puts every argument to rest”, yet you want to “stick to one debate”? Huh @crazy?!? Interesting. lol
HGH Magic
“Puts every argument to rest”, yet you want to “stick to one debate”? Huh @crazy?!? lol
HGH Magic
^^^Can't have your cake and eat it, dude.
HGH Magic
 

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