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Our Season Thus Far

Disappointing or going as planned?

After watching that insipid, boring, uninspiring, embarrassing, disappointing....... match with Steau Bucharest, I decided to come up with an article for us to share our views on our season so far.

Let me start by giving my own view; at this stage of the season I had expected Jose to have adapted a good pattern of play, sorted out his first eleven, sorted out the right formation for this set of players and the right players for that formation, phased out Lamps and Terry as they are both too old and not of the required talent to play the kind of exciting football our young and talented players should be serving us every weekend.

NO, what I have been seeing is us playing 'most' of our football between the pivot players and the back four, Lamps playing regularly because of a formation that isn't right for us and Jose's unwillingness to change it. Terry has also been playing every game, though he's been good and not as bad as I expected I still don't think he should be playing every time. De Bruyne is not getting any quality game time even against Bucharest! FFS.

Ivanovic playing regularly despite being average all season while a better replacement is being wasted at LB. I have never been so discouraged about our chances going into all competitions this season. We've been so average all season, nothing has been spectacular about our performances or results. We've been so inconsistent, not producing good performances against lowly teams, failing to kill off teams when the opportunity presents itself, giving dull and rubbish performances when great performances are expected, lacking a specific identity, not showing a good pattern of play except passing the ball all day between the back four.......

One last thing I'll say is that I don't understand why we don't create that many chances despite us 'allegedly' having 6 AM's. For other top teams, creating chances in games come as a natural thing for them but for us, it`s like we just don't know how to go about it.

What's your take on our season?

Let's hear it out.




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The Journalist

Writer: don delsy Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday December 12 2013

Time: 7:50AM

Your Comments

Its annoying..
chuks09
Its annoying seeing lampard playing every game, either as a starter or from the bench. Seeing de.bruyne, bertrand + azpi, not getting a fair chance..not giving cech a proper competition.+ Annoying subs always
chuks09
Lol we create enough chances per game, problem is our goal-free, goal-shy or goal-stupid strikers usually fluff them! With a not-so-creative, unimaginative & a near immobile central midfield; plus a strikeforce as profligate as we currently have, it's going as planned mate. Simples
HGH Magic
24th September 2013. Remember this date, as it's the date that in 4 years time you'll look back and think that was the game when our future was decided. At half time in the capital one cup game vs Swindon a substitution is made that was quite frankly pointless- that of john terry who came on for Ramires. On the bench at the time was an 18yr old by the name of Lewis baker, a star, a prodigy, England's next big thing, who could have quite easily played that second half at 2-0 up, but sat there on the bench warming his hands. What did he get out of that exactly. Now you may be sitting there asking yourself what has this got to do with this article, well lots actually because it sets the future in stone. Why does cole need a new contract, what does he offer. This sets an example doesn't it, if one gets a new contract, then so will lampard, terry, essien, and cech again- the actual person who needs a new contract is the one person who has been treated like a piece of dirt - JUAN MATA. Has anyone thought that the reason why we are not performing well is because there are divisions in the camp- there are those who can do no wrong and those who do everything wrong. When the coach has issues with his best player and with the young players that he has then is it any wonder that we are so inconsistent. I don't know if you heard it but I heard that this season was the year we developed our youngsters, those who came back from loan and some of those from the academy- in my eyes Jose is not doing the job he's been asked to do.
Blue1989
Lol @HGH, is that sarcasm right there or you being serious? Mourinho has flopped so far for me. No more of the regular exciting football we witnessed almost all through last season, no more of the ruthless and free scoring attitude (even if it wasn't that constant) of last season. I mean, wasn't this season supposed to be an improvement from last? Its been downhill thus far. This has (unexpectedly) been the season with so many complaints to air out after 20 (or there about) games. Just hoping jose gets his acts together and start performing.
don delsy
It hasn't been smooth sailing, far from it. Some shocking displays in between. But we are still hanging on and are in the mix. We can only hope with CL out of the way for a couple of months, we can go on a good run in the domestic competitions. #Ktbffh #coyb
syed230183_chelseafc
While watching the game yesterday with some dudes, one of them said; "its better we sack mourinho while its still early in the season", shocked, one of his friends asked him why and he replied; "I don't enjoy chelsea's game again". Though I don't agree for him to be sacked, I completely agree with his point: I don't enjoy watching chelsea anymore!!
don delsy
Lol! Now we don't create enough chances right?Last season we created more chances than united did and RVP had more than 5times the goals our strikers had...we were number 5 in chances created last season and united was number 6 and yet we didn't hear we don't create enough chances from the united faithfuls...we should leave the 6amf's alone,apart from oscar I don't see any of them that holds on to the ball too long..so what are we saying? Even all the chances created last night was wasted and our striker was non-existent and we blame the AMF's again
Hazard11
Hold up! Reading all this I assumed Chelsea must have slipped into the bottom 3 overnight. But no, Chelsea are still sitting 3rd and still above Man City & Man Utd. One thing's for sure, we have a better chance of winning the Champions League this season than we did this time last season. We never kill teams off? Didn't we beat Schalke - CL group runners up - 6-0 on aggregate and Stueau 5-0 on aggregate. Also, we have recently beaten West Ham 3-0, Cardiff 4-1, Southampton 3-1, Arsenal 2-0. Not every game is like play station. We won a game last night that in the end we only needed to draw. Why bust a gut going for a 2nd & 3rd goal when we need to preserve energy for important league games over the next 3 weeks?
CobhamBlue
@cobhamblue i think we were looking for the second goal much into the game , oscar should not have started , although Ba could have had a hat trick yesterday has he done better , but preserving energy could have been done by some people not starting in the first place
Don capon
@cobham if u think winning 1- 0 against a steau is a great result even if a draw is all that was needed , then we clearly have different views on the kind of chelsea we want to see. "We have a better chance of winning the champions league....." That made me laugh. Our chance of winning the ucl is as equal as that of everton winning the premier league.
don delsy
I don't expect us to win the CL, but then again when we were sitting 6th in the EPL and drew Barcelona in the SF in 2012 I didn't expect to win it then either. We should have won the game last night by more. Another "sitter" missed by our No.9 for those that say the CFs never get chances created for them. Of course we SHOULD have won by more but if we really needed a 2nd goal we would have played at a much more frantic pace. Not everything is perfect - we are VERY weak up front - but we are doing as well as could realistically be expected, although I would have imagined it would be Man City on top and Arsenal 4th. We are a reasonably high scoring team with terrible centre forwards and a soft underbelly which makes us susceptible to conceding. We always will be with the players we have at the moment.
CobhamBlue
It's the worse football Chelsea have played in many years.We've got so many fantastic players but the style,or lack of it is alarming.Everything is done so slow in the build up and how badly do we need a playmaker in midfield.It's unbelievable that Azpi and Willian have not been given a chance to form a partnership on the right which has amazing potential.To not even try it after so many games,even against poor teams is mind boggling.I do remember when Jose was sacked by the club,the football was similar and that was with a superb side full of at least,if not more than six world class players.A blind man can see a CF is a must in January.Hopefully Jose can get it right and it will turn out to be a great season.
THEBREEZE
I came across this article, interesting piece! ............ http://www.football365.com/f365-says/9068344/F365-Says
syed230183_chelseafc
Oh my.. relax
zg2000fs
Nice article syed, thanks. That last quote at the bottom is something I mentioned on here before, almost word for word, but I have no idea where it is any more.. Too much doom and gloom around here. I really don't enjoy coming on here and posting much any more. It's not the haters and trolls, it's the constant moaning and the playstationish attitude. I am pretty sure that some of the kids don't play Mata when his arrow is pointing down and is purple, so why should Mourinho. Same goes for any other player in the team, and it's just scraping the surface and comparing real life with a console game that is not even close to real life yet. /rant
zg2000fs
Forget good football guys, just watch the 1st 10-20 mins of our matches, doze off, wake up after 90mins to see we have won the match, celebrate and jubilate, that's it.... Since winning is all we want, then we should enjoy the winning (though it hasn't been steady) and forget good football.... I think we have a chance of winning EPL cos we have a very good team and enough depth.... As for CL, I don't see us winning it, except we are fortunate enough not to meet a good side until semis or final.... at that point, anything can happen... We are not doing too bad in terms of result though we've been inconsistent. My major worry is that our football is getting more and more boring, I can't deny that fact... only one or two inspiring and interesting games/performances... the rest, you're just happy that we won, nothing interesting/entertaining/inspiring... I also don't like the fact that the hopes of many young Chelsea lads have been truncated and shattered... Players like Ake, Chalobah, Baker, Bertrand, Kalas, KDB... should just forget it... no hopes of playing for Chelsea senior team anymore.... I just hope we end the season much better than last season, that's the least we can expect...
Latunvic
To be honest,i think Mou was a big mistake coming here.fans forced ROMAN to get Mou and he did,now look who is mouning?The board and Roman what to teach plastic cfc fans how Benitez was a better choice than the confused one.the style of play has become ***** as he wants to instal all his friends ,even Drogba.Are we moving backward or what is this.where is that young hungry team the board and roman promised.Azpi is better than Iva but..Again chalaboh or ake are better than lamps but...mou as usual is right.
mzee69
While I don't believe CFC would or could get anyone better than JM, I am still disappointed. Everyone knows that JM likes a balanced team that plays with a hard pressing style. Moreover, JM plays two-way football. Everyone defends. It is very apparent that the CFC organization just runs out and purchases players regardless if they fit any particular style or formation. CFC has purchased players, such as Torres, that was never set up for him. Still isn't. Moreover, Mata and KDB have lower work-rates and neither defend well. Well that is not JMs style. Remember JM didn't purchase these players. So, I totally understand that JM needs time to understand what he has and how best to play which players in which formation. Now with that being said, I don't understand the loyalty to Lampard and Ramires. My only thought is that JM thinks that Lampard is the only logical player that can fit the position. As far as Ramires...I have to scratch my head as "two-left-foot" Ramires pretty much plays every game. Ramires cant pass the ball. Everyone knows it. But JM runs him out their. I guess JM thinks he is the best for the position even though he has major flaws. I didn't expect CFC to win the EPL. So, in the top 4 is very realistic. This team has lots of issues to correct. It will take at least another year to put his stamp on this team. Be patient. However, even I lose patience when I see Lampard/Mikel/Ramires on the pitch at the same time.
lamarochs
mzee69: I agree that there is a lot of improvement needed in our team and our play but to say that Jose is a total misfit and a big mistake is going to far. Who are the plastic fans you are referring to? Talking about Rafa, he has taken Napoli to the EUROPA LEAGUE … haha. We have voiced our concern but don't take your eyes off the Big Picture. We are third on the league table, have just qualified for the knockout phase of the Champions League and are sitting pretty in the Capital One Cup.
StamfordDLion
Roman and the Board getting Jose to punish us Chelsea Fans … Plastic Fans. What a brilliant reasoning.
StamfordDLion
Ups and downs, some good games/times and some bad. I guess the main thing I could be let down by is Mou's team selections at times as the season progressed.
Pavel Permiachkin
lamarochs: agree with you. Love Lamps, Mikel and Rammy. They are out players. But to see them play almost every game while other players don't get a look is starting to frustrate me.
StamfordDLion
P.S - I am also not a fan of Emanalo, don't understand the praise he gets for spending a sugar daddies money on 10000000 "promising" AMs.
Pavel Permiachkin
If anyone thinks playing very well every game or 8 out of 10 times only happens in play station then am sorry for that person. Arsenal, bayern, madrid and dortmund have played well all season, is that play station to you? I ain't even making it compulsory against big teams but against small teams, we should be doing better.
don delsy
lamarochs pointed out even more to what I was saying. Emanalo gets praise for something we can all do. I mean how hard is it to have Roman as a sugar daddy and go out and buy a bunch of good names without even caring if they fit your system and not to mention instead of balancing the team with every position he just stacks it with AMs.
Pavel Permiachkin
Latunvic, The football is boring?? It's only a week ago we won a 4-3 thriller!!! And last Saturday we were part of a 5 goal thriller! Two weeks ago we beat Southampton 3-1 and before that beat West Ham 3-0, not to mention scoring 12 goals in our Champions League group. Do you think Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool never had ANY boring games when they were fighting for the title over the years.
CobhamBlue
just a quick question , what do you people define as exciting football , i mean i know some games have not been the best , but be honest , has the football actually been boring ??
Don capon
Some guys here are unbelievable.After reading this *****,one might think that we are struggling badly in the league,out of both COC and CL,etc. But that is not the case,we r in good positions in every competitions.We easily could have won by 3 or 4 goals yesterday,but we didnt because we didnt try to exert ourselves.With the fixtures coming thick and fast,we have to conserve energy.What was the point in winning yesterday by a big goal margin when we r already qualified.There are more important matches coming up then yesterday's.I am sure we would see much more exciting football than we saw yesterday in the upcoming matches.I for one would not be joining you guys in the the moaning game and just sit back and enjoy as the games come thick and fast.Carefree & #KTBFFH
MHZ_BLUE
One more tip for you guys,please read Giles Smith's article on our official website.That was extremely good piece by him.I am starting to love this guy's articles.
MHZ_BLUE
@MHZ_BLUE. Good on you mate,great post! Carefree.
nelyvanile
Thanks @nelyvanile.You r one of the few whose posts I look forward to read.#KTBFFH
MHZ_BLUE
"What was the point in winning yesterday by a big goal margin when we r already qualified." - Why did barca win 6 - 1 against a celtic when they were already qualified? Or don't they also have more important matches on their schedule? Don't mistake naivety for loyalty!!!
don delsy
@mhz, do you think we will get an honest opinion from a journalist that writes article on chelsea website.. I have my opinion of how the season has gone so far, average Champions league group that was our reason for qualification and a very unpredictable league that is why we are still third on the league table.
pila12
@CobhamBlue, I wouldn`t waste your time responding to `fans` that have suddenly turned up from outer mongolia and expect Chelsea to win every game 10-0 and are dissapointed if we concede a corner.
Blueheart9
For the fan who was making jest of benitez, am no fan of his but facts be told; if we were in that group, (on current form) we would have been out since the 4th matchday.
don delsy
For the fan who was making jest of benitez, am no fan of his but facts be told; if we were in that group, (on current form) we would have been out since the 4th matchday.
don delsy
don delsy, Barcelona are about to head into a Christmas break. Chelsea have 6 games between now and the 1st Jan. They don't need to conserve energy. And they didn't beat Celtic 4-0 away.
CobhamBlue
don delsy, and how can you be so sure we wouldn't have got through? We beat Schalke 6-0 on aggregate and have already beaten Arsenal this season. It would definitely have been tougher but no way is it a formality we wouldn't have gone through.
CobhamBlue
@cobham we play Crystal palace next so why do we need to conserve energy? And moreover we have a squad full of 22 internationals so why didn't we just rotate? We beat schalke 6-0 but everyone including you knows that didn't reflect the performance....... U know what, I think I agree with some people here that we should moan less and watch how the team improves over the next few games. Would just sit and watch from now on.
don delsy
well i think its simple to see , we are scattered as a team. Not playing as a team but depending on individual brilliance. very inconsistant and very unbalanced. But always hoping for cfc to improve and do well. just imagine if we can start clicking now wud be a nice season.
Blue Krusaders
i could remember me saying few seasons ago about how not so good manU were and how they are not in top gear. Needless to say ManU won the league that season. last season we were dissapointed we got dropped into europa but this year we have topped our group. The juventus that kicked us out are presently languishing with the 'europas' as i speak. This time in the BPL last year we were already far off the top spot but this year we are second and looking to topple arsenal with our next two fixtures. Do we have work to do? ofcourse! But am i far far from sad about how the season is panning out. With jose we are under very good care.
kolagold25
I like this article. Our football has actually become boring and our game play is absolute rubbish. The only reason we are still very well placed in the various competitions is Jose.He's changed a lot of games from losing positions for us and thats what he does. I really expected our football to improve this season but after 20 matches,I strongly believe the type of attacking football we crave isnt Jose's forte. The man is a winner and i believe that we will be there or there abouts come may but i think we should forget about exciting football for now. When Jose was at madrid,they played great counter attacking football but it was too defensive and it was one of the reasons he fell out with marca and some players. Jose really doesnt care about the style,as long as we win.A lot of people talk about it being a work in progress and why time is needed and why top four is target this year but i dont buy that crap. RDM played great attacking football with this same team in a shorter period and a lot of people thought he was out of his depth.He might have been but the fact is,we played the best attacking passing football that got even Arsenal scared.We were labelled the new Barca if i could recollect. Roberto Martinez inherited a typical English team in everton and has transformed them into a good footballing team thats even got players like Gareth Barry looking forward and showing true class. With the right investment,Everton could become a title threat but thats not the point. Point is,that type of attacking football isnt Jose's strong suit and its high time we adapted to that reality and simply get along with it. We bought all the attacking talent in Europe so we could play football on the floor and move around,spread the game,push our right backs forward and make our center backs play out but what do we get? Long balls and dull football.We have no identity whatsoever. Our only threat seems to be Hazard. Get hime the ball and hope the boy whizzes past a whole line of defence and do something.......i really hope he doesnt get injured cos he is the only spark covering Jose's dull footy at the minute.The fact that he doesnt rate Mata should have sent red signals, but hey,its Jose. He's a legend and we have got blind loyalty for the man and deservedly so but I expected us to play good attacking football,lose some games while doing it,but play good football and try to get a defined identity in our play.It is a rebuilding period after all and that comes with some losses. Dont get me wrong,this isnt an attack on Jose nor any of our players. This is my opinion on the season so far and as scathing as it might sound,I believe that Jose will win us a cup or 2 however boring it might get. Question is,how long before Roman gets very bored of this???? Cos i am already disappointed. It all seems like the wrong team,right manager or right team wrong manager. Carefree
3nity
Sorry about the long comment. Just scribbled away and was too late. In all,with Jose....anything can happen and cups are guaranteed. The football style however might be something else.
3nity
One quality striker and one quality holding midfield player and all will be rosy again.
Blueheart9
We've been totally outplayed and beaten twice by Basle without having a shot on target in the away game.Lost last weekend to Stoke City and last night we were awful.We have some of the best attacking players in the world.Why is the teams style so poor and the football so dull?
THEBREEZE
@THEBREEZE, Needless to say Basle are now in the Europa league and we ended up leading them with four points. It was all about racking up points and qualifying something which Basle fell short off even though they won us twice. So...
kolagold25
nice say 3nity
kaka05
@3nity, so you want attacking football without result?? This game is first and foremost about result then every other thing follows. Have you ever played PS with someone who keeps winning you while you keep playing the good game and he keeps making the jest out of you? Bro this game is about bragging right not who plays better. its about who wins! then if the winning then comes with beautiful play then we are grateful but result first!
kolagold25
3nity, We do play attacking football. We've scored 48 goals this season already. Other than Man City I very much doubt any other team in England has scored more. The start of last season was great under RDM but other teams were working out how to play against our tricky attackers and when they did the wheels fell off. Everton haven't been found out yet. If teams set up to play Chelsea the way they do to play Everton we'd crucify all before us. The smaller teams don't stick 10 men behind the ball when they play Everton, however if Everton keep winning they soon will, then we'll see how good they are. I saw Newcastle play Everton, at Everton, earlier on in the season. Newcastle played as if they were playing a non-league side at home in the Cup and Everton killed them. When Newcastle played Chelsea AT HOME they stuck 10 men behind the ball for over an hour and only played on the counter attack. Everyone knows it is easy for good teams to win when the opposition give them unlimited space. Remember Chelsea v Aston Villa last season.
CobhamBlue
@kologold25,You've just proved my point.Basle are a really poor team but beat us twice.
THEBREEZE
@Kolagold25- I think you got me wrong. I said i want attacking football and if it comes with some losses,why not. We havent played good football and we have lost some very winnable games havnt we? I dont think we can do any worse to be honest. Point is,I dont think Jose is capable of giving us that identity because 20games in,we seem to be trying very hard to go back to 2005.
3nity
@Basle, if they are that poor they wouldn't be in the champs league. Plus they beat us means nothing, these things happen in football so far its not when it matters
kolagold25
@3nity, i get you but my own point is before attacking football i want wins upon wins then if it comes with some games without great attacking, why not.
kolagold25
those are excuses Cobham, I'm afraid mate. Point is our attack looks disjointed and belaboured lately, what with inverted "wide men" and Ivanovic attempting to play wing back; our strikers, a deceiving set of wasteful overpaid so-called strikers who rarely strike, let alone score goals not taking the few chances that get created by the not-so-creative midfield trio of Lampard, Ramires and Mikel; and an unrepentant manager who refused to buy intelligently to fill gaping holes in a team that were all too glaring for any discerning mind who knows his football, and watched Chelsea last season as Jose claimed! Like someone said above, a striker WHO CAN SCORE GOALS and work the channels or "tight spaces", and a midfield playmaker this January window would do just nicely. Alas, Jose threatens otherwise....
HGH Magic
@CobhamBlue I beg to differ.Liverpool has more goals. we are on par with arsenal and they have conceded the least goals this season. I want you to watch the 1st half of our match against hull and see for yourself what attacking football is and that this team can actually play it and move between the lines. The reason we got Schurrle and perhaps Willian was so we could spread the play and go directly wide when the time calls for it. Its confusing cos even the manager isnt sure what his 1st 11 is. Kdb isnt getting any games,Mata almost had to shave his head to get a few games and thanks to Oscar's injury and Azpi,after threatening to break into the spanish national team over the summer has suddenly dropped down the pecking order and now plays left back. Whats more shocking about those decisions is, when we actually lose those games,you wonder if Bertrand would have done any worse. He is way better than Jenkinson isnt he? If Luke Shaw likes his career,he better sit put at Southampton. Jose chats a lot of ********* about developing our young players....
3nity
Great spot there HGH. For someone who claims to have watched us last season and seen the flaws,its been pathetic to say the least. He also said he's been working behind the scenes as far back as december. Oh Jose,you liar! He cant pass off a chance to stick it into Rafa though. Thats how stubborn he is. It is such a shame really.
3nity
Liverpool have scored 38 goals this season, Arsenal have scored 39. Chelsea have scored 48.
CobhamBlue
HGH Magic, Our attack looks labored lately???? What??? We've scored 14 goals in last 5 league games. That's nearly 3 goals a game. If we kept scoring at that rate we would break our own record of 103 Premier League goals. You can't win every game 6-0. Remember all this is with strikers that have made a Chelsea career of missing sitters.
CobhamBlue
I'm not for stats, but how many winning goals have our strikers got of that lot eh, Cobham? For all I know, NO team wins the BPL without their marksmen being amongst the top scorers, go check the records! Any surprises we've stopped challenging for the title since we signed Torres, and Ba?
HGH Magic
3nity, Since Jose has made Oscar & Hazard the linch-pins of his team how can you say he is not interested in using young talent?
CobhamBlue
HGH Magic, If the discussion is about the quality of our strikers then I'm with you there. They are not good enough. Torres has been a disaster and we should have signed a top striker in the summer. Why we made the half-hearted effort to sign Rooney I don't know. We should either have gone all in at £35-40m or gone £55m on Suarez. However, considering how bad our current crop are we score an amazing number of goals.
CobhamBlue
how can you ask to have a consistent first 11 team when we have inconsistency amongst our players. Our strikers haven't been consistent, how then do you expect mou to stick to one? The three behind the strikers too the same thing applies. Mou is trying to stick with players he believes can give him consistency don't you see?? that's why he's been playing JT, lamps, iva and rami all this while. He was hoping to do same with ashley but he is not too happy with his performances that's why azpi has been playing instead. Jose is looking for the consistency you are talking about!
kolagold25
Cobham, I think 3nity means those "young talents" that weren't bought for £25m and £32m respectively, like Kevin De Bruyne and Bertrand for starters; especially in a match such as Steaua @Stamford Bridge!
HGH Magic
Your funny CobhamBlue, Do you not realise thats down to him not having a choice? Benzema and Higuain were young and Jose tried to sign Drogba and Milito to madrid. That says a lot mate. Jose isnt the type for patience and trying to develop youngsters. He creates a pressure cooker environment and you either perform really well or die on the bench. Dictator style. Bertrand has had one bad game and he's not been in the team since.....go figure.
3nity
But I give you this Cobham, the half-hearted 'pursuit' of Rooney and subsequent failure to lure one of the continent's great strikers showed Mourinho had lost part of his cutting edge, magic, hunger or spark in Spain!
HGH Magic
The manager is miserable. He loves miserable football. He's making the team miserable.
foreign_viewer
Its why you have to commend whoever is advising the Lukaku kid. Chelsea fans might slate him for acting a bit off but at the end of the day,you gotta think about your career even if you do love the club.
3nity
HGH..I dont think he's lost it tactically. I think he is still one of if not the best at changing the course of a game. That could get us far in the cups but the league is where you define your style of play and blend your attacking set up. I think Jose has been left behind in terms of the way the game has evolved. New exciting managers like Klopp,Martinez,Laudrup and Rodgers and even RDM are practising that model. Jose's only ace on them is his tactical genius.
3nity
If he's gonna waste KDB's time,why did he not simply send the boy out on loan and give Boga or Lewis Baker those little minutes??? The more i think of it,the more his stubbornness irks me.
3nity
foreign_viewer, You can all mump and moan as much as you like but the facts are Chelsea are the 2nd highest scoring team with 48 goals, if we win our next 2 league games we can be top of the league on Christmas Day, we have a game next week which could see us into the semi-final of the League Cup, we've just won our Champions League group, scoring 12 goals, conceding only 3 and kept 4 clean sheets and the FA Cup hasn't started yet. I love to grumble about Torres as much as anyone but so far, with what Jose has at his disposal, he is doing a great job. If you want goals you should enjoy watching a team that has treated you to 14 goals in their last 5 league games.
CobhamBlue
Uhmm 3nity, I never said he's lost anything tactically; just that the procurement of a prolific striker and a midfield playmaker with steel and finesse this January window is imperative for our ambitions as a club!
HGH Magic
3nity, Rodgers used play with a Barcelona "light" philosophy. Now his philosophy is "get the ball to Suarez as quickly as possible." If you look up "one-man team" in the dictionary there is a picture of Liverpool FC next to it.
CobhamBlue
Right i have seen alot of reasonable and insightful comments on here without insults so credit to everyone , however i will like to add , First of all about the playing young players , he does not even have a first 11 yet , so playing them is unreasonable . Secondly about KDB i really dont know what is wrong , but i know hazard and oscar are his key players so that leaves only one position left and then someone at the top ordered the purchase of willian for 30 million ,so however i think he has to be the fall guy , i mean only 3 players can play in those positions and they need to find their chemistry and mourinho clearly said he needs width in the band of 3 so it was always going to happen .
Don capon
Also about us loosing games , go and read news about stoke , their players said themselves that it was the best half they had played this season , they scored some wonderful goals , i know we should have killed it off and all but we didnt , we all have to take the blame for it ( players ) because no matter how much the manager wants them to play he cannot do much once the players are on the pitch . And the style of play is also worrying but for 4-2-3-1 to work you need a performing striker and a stable pivot , so till then i am not expecting any wonders .
Don capon
About playing attractive football , well i think it is a delicate matter , because clearly from what i have seen here , people have their definition of what is entertaining for them , like me personally i dont fancy tiki-taka as it is not interesting to me and the whole idea of passing so close is not what i like . i prefer what bayern played last season , but i am sure they were not so cohensive in the first season of building . we have had Ancellotti , AVB , RDM , Benitez and jose in literally 3 and a half seasons , all these guys have their different ideas , so when a new person is brought , all work done goes down the drain , so i think we have to give him more time and mourinho had a discussion with Roman about style of play and all that , i am pretty sure it is sorted out .
Don capon
And another thing i will like to add , we played " attractive football" under rdm and abv at some point and we were way off the pace during that period , i will rather have what we have now than be so far away and be thinking of qualification by may , i dont know about you , but i am abit hungry for a premier league trophy right now . And another question when someone says " miserable football " what does that actually mean ?
Don capon
Obviously, more time for Mourinho has never been in doubt, especially not from my end anyway, as the need for stability and consistency cannot be overemphasised; but the fact is after 20 odd games a definite style of play and discernible direction the team is headed shouldn't be as unclear as it currently is, in my opinion. For instance, how sustainable is the experiment of having Ivanovic play right back and Azpi left back? How/when will we integrate our many talented youngsters like Thorgan Hazard, Piazon, Atsu or Romeu on loan, let alone the Nathan Akes of this club into the squad???! Yes, Mourinho is one of us ... but his annual pay is also many times over Obama's and Cameron's combined; time for him to earn his quid I tell yer!
HGH Magic
My friend mq would always say we gave a buggatti to a truck driver....20games so far,am afraid he is right
Ken4CFC
Don D: You Assume like its a Certainty that we would have been beaten if we were in Arsenal's Group … lol … Jose's Chelsea is through and we will get to fight another day in a higher stage of the Champions League. Good luck to Rafa in the Europa. Don't say that he didn't spend money after he was appointed as Napoli's manager. Higuain ...
StamfordDLion
Blueheart9: Your 'Outer Mongolia Remark' got me lol … ha ha
StamfordDLion
Won't say much on this issue,but will definitely bring it up in the future though. Just to be clear,its important to remember we are trying to build a philosophy and trying to be competitive at the same time. We are not Everton,who regard an Europa league ticket as an achievement,or Liverpool who want a UCL spot or Arsenal who have gone 8 years without a trophy and also knocked out of the COC by Chelsea. It's sad to say this but CFC fans are so eager for the quick fix approach and want to see a glimpse of light before walking through the tunnel. We've done this over and over again,and still haven't learnt a thing. I can understand not holding hands and following the lead of previous managers in fear of leading us to hell. This is Jose for fck sakes,one of us,and if it means holding hands and letting him lead us in a dark tunnel without a glimpse of light,then am absolutely positive and have faith he'll find that light at the end of the tunnel. This is in no way an allegiance,but its ******** about time we learnt how to be patient instead of the constant moans. Wait till the end of the season,before you judge or conclude. What if you're wrong? what if you are totally off the mark? what if you have no clue whatsoever Jose has planned out? Patience lads,patience...let Jose work. Carefree
nelyvanile
Wonder how Raphael Schumacher is driving Napoli? Yes! Straight to the Europa Lanes … ha ha
StamfordDLion
good post Nely
StamfordDLion
It's ok having a laugh off Rafa but he had us playing fantastic football,with a much weaker squad.What would he have achieved with Willian, Schurrle, De Bruyne and Etoo added to last years team.
THEBREEZE
fantastic football ?????? loosing a two goal lead to Southampton at home ???? no shot on target in two legs against swansea ???? no shot against man city , drew to fulham , lost another two goal lead to reading ???? loosing to southampton , drawing with southampton after the two goal lead ??? loosing to corinthians ... drawing with brentford , loosing to man city like a championship team , spear me that bull***** please
Don capon
We shall see*whistling*
Ken4CFC
Against norwich did we play fantastic football ??? against benfica ?
Don capon
Good post THEBREEZE
Ken4CFC
Thanks StamfordDLion...Cheers mate!
nelyvanile
@thebreeze did we also play good football against qpr ?? did we play good football against arsenal ??? or against steaua , there were only few matches we played good football , so please stop giving credit when it is not due , someone who made us play well was di matteo
Don capon
@Don Juan,We scored more goals last season than any season in our history. Are you trying to say the football under Rafa wasn't fantastic compared to this dour,dull, huff and puff and hope so called style.
THEBREEZE
we scored a total of 121 goals last season and a total of 142 goals in 2009/2010 season...we scored a total of 75 league goals last season and we scored a total of 103 league goals in 2009/2010 season,then how did we score more goals last season than any season in our history?? We should stop putting up falsified stats to support/defend Rafa
Hazard11
And we conceded a total of 66 goals last season(2012/2013),the same number in 2011/2012...the highest we have conceeded in the last 10years
Hazard11
Like i said...anyone can call it what they want.Moaning,complaing and all sorts. No one is calling for the manager to be sacked....well im not. Look at my previous comment and you will realise that i do trust him, but our style of play is in dire need of a facelift. Make of that what you will,it is the truth. This has got nothing to do with our league position or cup progressions......This is something like a ''state of the nation report''. Carefree
3nity
We shouldn't go as far as saying things that aren't true just to fight our case of supporting rafa...#just saying though..
Hazard11
@Nelly---And i am very happy to put up my hands and say i was wrong if Jose indeed gets us playing that type of football but honestly,20 games in,We dont seem to be working towards that type of football. I dont think it should take more than 20 games to notice it if we are even attempting to play that way.We might yet win the quadruple this season,that doesnt mean I am wrong if our game play is boring,It will only justify Jose's cv as being a tactical genius who plays dull boring football. Oh and i will be happy anyway. Carefree.
3nity
Back to boring boring chelsea!!..dont think thats what roman signed for..
Ken4CFC
Give us an identity,lets have a taste of good things to come and not the boring and dire performances here and there in the last 4months
Ken4CFC
Look where Napoli have landed with Raphael Schumacher's Brand of Fantastic Football … haha … Good post Don Capon. STATISTICS DONT LIE. We are in the Knock Out Stage of the Champions League, Up There in the League Table and Sitting Pretty in the Capital One. STATS Don't Lie.
StamfordDLion
Someone has been Found … lol … Good on you Hazard 11 for bringing the Stats.
StamfordDLion
We are not playing boring football! VC's notorious of accepting or making up certain ideas so quick that if one doesn't have a strong footing you won't have a choice but to follow the masses. The idea of boring football has been hanging over mourinho's head since he formed a very ruthless and efficient squad that won the league back to back. Its just a way of people getting to jose to deny him of the fantastic job he's done with his squad then (I couldn't say we were boring then as I enjoyed all our victories and had so many bragging rights). Our football is not boring! Maybe few games has been but its wrong to generalised that our gameplay this season has been boring. I think its far from it.
kolagold25
Okay, our football has been very exciting and pulsating.... incredible football!.... Credit and honor to Mourinho... Happy now?.... I don't get how stating that our football is boring amount into discrediting Mourinho.... Everything here now is discredit or hatred if it's not in favour of Mourinho.... Every little critique is hatred, dishonor, discredit, disloyalty, sacrilege, etc... amazing!
Latunvic
if the word boring football is used for what mourinho has done with us so far yes it is discrediting even more so when i don't really think we are playing boring football. some games hasn't been the brightest but generalising the season so far as boring football is discrediting
kolagold25
@3nity. Good on you mate,but it actually depends on what you describe as exciting football.
nelyvanile
I think many here are basically on this bandwagon about our football this season being boring,but that's totally false. Yes we've lacked balance and cohession at times,but most of our games haven't been boring. I guess its an individual thing and i can as well tell you Del Bosque's Spain and Guardiola's Barcelona tikki takka football is actually boring to me,i don't regard that as exciting football...its pass pass pass pass (possession),*yawns*,drab atmosphere,heavy eyes,sleep. I'm English so i love fast paced football,players pressing hard and getting stuck in...i enjoyed Jose's Real Madrid 2nd season,i enjoy watching Klopps Dortmund,or the German national team,i enjoyed Heynckes Bayern,its not about possession,its about having a well oiled and balanced side attacking and defending as one. So what exactly do you regard as exciting football? Here's Klopps say on Wenger and Arsenal style. "[Wenger] likes having the ball, playing football, passes," he said.  "It's like an orchestra, but it's a silent song, yeah? And I like heavy metal more. I always want it loud! I want to have this: 'BOOM!' "If Barcelona's team of the last four years were the first one that I saw play when I was four years of age - with their serenity, winning 5-0, 6-0 - I would have played tennis." "Sorry, that is not enough for me. What I love is that there are some things you can do in football to allow each team to win most of the matches. "It is not serenity football - it is fighting football. That is what I like. What we call in German 'English football': rainy day, heavy pitch, everybody is dirty in the face and they go home and can't play football for the next four weeks. This is Borussia. "When I watch Arsenal in the last 10 years, it is nearly perfect football, but we all know they didn't win a title.  "In Britain they say that they like Arsenal but they have to win something. Who wins the title? Chelsea, but with different football, I would say. This is the philosophy of Arsene Wenger. I love this but I cannot coach this because I am a different guy. "You think many things are similar? I hope so in some moments, but there are big differences, too." Well apparently i like heavy metal too,and classics,and that's exactly what we are working at,and if you are expecting to see some glimpse of exciting,then maybe you were looking out for the Ochestra exciting,cos we have been working on the heavy metal,we are working on pressing the opponent early,getting stuck in,fast transitions in certain games. So you want me to mention instances of the 'glimpses' as you guys put it. Man city,Arsenal,Southampton,Sunderland,Shalke 04,West Ham,Spurs,e.t.c were does actually boring games? If you regard this games we played as boring,then you'll most probably be bored for a long time. The fact that there's no cohesion and balance yet,means we can't produce this performances on a consistent basis,just yet,but you wait and see. Carefree.
nelyvanile
Good discussion above. Lots here worried about the playing style of our team. Yes when we play at high tempo, press, and attack with the 3 AM's and create chances to score, it's great to see. Here is the thing, we are still doing it, it's just we don't score, once that happens, the performance drops, becomes ponderous, possession is lost, and general performance drops. .........My issue has always been focus, concentration, passion and commitment from first till last whistle. That seems to go missing in alternate games, and in some games it goes missing in one half and we respond in next half!!! ....
syed230183_chelseafc
@thebreeze even if we scored the most goals last season which i doubt , it wil be normal that happens because 1) we played super cup , club world cup and had more games in the europa league ( against weaker teams that might have been relegated ) . and also di matteo had a hand in the goal tally too , so that is not valid at all and we didnt have a shot on target in two legs against swansea i mean that is a record is it not ???
Don capon
hull city was not boring , bayern was not boring , aston villa was not ( you can make a case for it ) tottenham was not boring , even when we lost to everton it was not boring , beating norwich , cardiff and arsenal was not boring , sunderland , southampton and stoke ( although we lost ) were definitely not boring , so now name the boring fixtures you people keep complaining about , i think that will help to clear alot
Don capon
very good comments from @kolagold25 and nelyvanile
Don capon
I expected we would play a defined way and improve the players, youngsters...But, right now we dont have a identity, no major improvements seen in any of the players....I blame the 'Philosophy'less JOSE for this.
Blu_run
Not one to banter pointless, re boring vs exciting, as there's absolutely nothing exciting about a 1-0 win over Steaua @the Bridge or a 3-2 loss to Stoke since 1975, after 38 years of consecutive triumphs home and away [when, presumably, a certain freckled-faced Roman Abramovic was still in his formative years yet to enrol in an elementary school and with probably not enough roubles to even buy himself biscuits and candies let alone a leather football or a whole football club abroad; a young redhead Jose Mourinho not yet into teenage and still without a single English word learned; and a Michael Emenalo yet to own a pair of football boots or dream going to America as he played bare-arsed and barefoot on the streets of rural Enugu and maybe Lagos ... and all that]. No. None of that, as there's just nothing exciting about such performances like we put up @the Britannia or perpetually having small teams break their ducks and/or fancy getting a result against us re West Brom, Newcastle and Basel. The point of this article was whether or not this season is disappointing or going as planned - a question I'm afraid none of these latter exchanges have attempted answering so far! So guys, put it in context already and away with the petty bickering and pointless spinning; is this season disappointing for you as a fan or going as planned, after these 20 games? And please ignore the bandwagon and be honest with your guts! Carefree & KTBFFH
HGH Magic
*freckle-faced*
HGH Magic
@Hazard11.We scored a total of 147 goals last season.As our last trophy winning manager would say,facts.It is you who has falsified the stats.It's a simple case of addition.Back to school I'm afraid,mate.
THEBREEZE
The most boring things about our football is our pivot and our wing back love to do a backpass to our CB and goalkeeper before they hoof it to opponent player. it's like someone coward scare of losing his leg. sometimes we just pass the ball to Hazard and wait for him to do his magic. just like we did to Drogba before. i don't think Dortmund just play long ball to Lewandowski. sometimes I feel like I want to throw my TV remote control to the TV screen while screaming, "go attack, stupid!". that's how I can describe how boring our football lately. I hope u got the picture...
Chelsea n Torres Fan
Good point HGH,The season so far has been really disapointing.The style of our play is not great to watch and it's frustrating that Azpi,Mata and De Bruyne have been messed about.With the players we've got I expect us to be challenging for every trophy.I went to Basle and not one shot at goal. I went to the game wed night,we won but it was awful to watch against a sorry outfit.The Premiership is the weakest it's ever been and I do expect us to fight it out with City for the title but the football needs to improve.
THEBREEZE
having good players and playing exciting football are two different things am afraid. These young team needs time to blend well more than anything else. I agree our squad this season is an upgrade of what we had last season but expecting the squad to best our opponents 91% to 9% in terms of ball possession in every match is what i do not expect from them. I'm entirely sure no manchester united fan would've bothered if Moyes is doing something close to what Mourinho is offering us right now. I'll gladly embrace winning over exciting football any day of the week. Meanwhile i have no expectation of winning any trophy this season but should that happen i will be more than happy and take it as an extra achievement. Lastly, i'd rather we play the so-called boring football than having Rafa Banitez as a coach. Gooð riddance. His presence in the dug-out motivated so many clubs last season to win/drew some vital matches against us.
valachi
check your facts well,that's why you have the internet there with you...you shouldn't sit at home and formulate figures and stats dude...for you to claim chelsea's most goal scored in a season was last season when it was 2009/2010 season is bad...trying to give Carlo ancellotti's credit to Rafa Benitez,it doesn't work that way..I could post a lot of links to show you that we scored more than 100league goals alone in 2009/2010,then how is it possible to score 147 last season when we managed just 75league goals in the league,are you saying we scored over 70goals in other competions???take a chill dude and stop worshipping your god rafa and giving him praises that he doesn't deserve again in 09/10 under ANCELLOTTI,we scored 103 epl goals and 142 total goals,last season we scored 75epl goals and 121 total goals
Hazard11
Our player play like a coward nowadays. afraid to make some unpredictable thing, afraid of losing the ball, afraid to get caught, afraid to going forward, afraid to make a tackle. It's like when they pass the ball backward then they said, "fuh, I'm lucky he didn't get me". I'm not call for tiki taka football. what I want is a fighter, mortal combat, gung ho style. Make forward run, do some unpredictable thing, don't afraid to get caught, make a tackle. That's how football I want. not wait and see football style. Everton don't have a big name, yet they can give some games to big opponents. we did play once of twice with this style, one that is when we left behind against Southampton. why we must wait till we left behind to play mortal combat? why we didn't play it for full 90 minutes?
Chelsea n Torres Fan
Ah. So the new definition of boring is when you lose, even if it's a 3:2 loss, and exciting is when you win with more than 2 goals difference. Now I get it.
zg2000fs
Its almost a season and a half that this our "young players" have been together and someone is still saying they need TIME to blend? How long will that take? 3 seasons? ***** Me. We've basically retained the same starting eleven from last season so what's different this time around? I'm all for patience but jose must give us a time frame, 20 games into the season? We've been disappointing. What will it take? 30 games, a season? We will wait. Just tell us and stop giving us the crap of "we are trying to build an identity (we are yet to see)", let's not forget this same players won the europa league last season. If we want to go trophyless for a season all in the name of building an identity and great style of play, then i'm in support but we must see signs that we are "truly" improving.
don delsy
interesting to see there are Chelsea fans who ain't averse to having the interim one as Chelsea manager, whereas the same fat dude is vilified in Merseyside even though he won the Scousers their most prestigious cup in aeons! What a travesty, a parody; but does this paradox spring the word "plastic" to mind? I hope not. Lol ;-)
HGH Magic
@Don delsy they're several signs of improvements already just that you intentionally refused to notice them. By this time last year if i remembered correctly we were planning on how to play our first europa league match in Roman's era. We were deservely whooped by corinthian, well thrashed by atletico madrid. Destroyed by some smaller clubs both home and away as a folk already pointed out up there. We've had some disappointing results so far this season but we are sitting pretty well in all competitions. I'm no way contented with our present displays, i hope we can improve more but am not exactly worry to see them play sexy(or exciting) football just yet. I'll demand for that when we correct some positions we are lacking appropriate players(i.e striking area and the pivot).
valachi
@valachi do you think if jose was the coach against the same opponents of last season in that group he would have done any better (on recent evidence)? "We were deservedly whooped by corinthian, well thrashed by atletico madrid. Destroyed by some smaller clubs both home and away as a folk already pointed out up there", last time I checked, newcastle, basel, everton and stoke are small teams compared to us and we've already lost to them. And if we were to play against athletico madrid now....U and everyone here knows what is most likely to happen. Nuff said.
don delsy
valachi, sorry I don't mean to extend the argument as your points are apparently valid mate; but whose job is it to "correct some positions we are lacking appropriate players"? The fans' or Mourinho's? In the face of Azpilicueta playing left back and Ivanovic right back, whilst a hapless Bertrand watches on; a frustrated De Bruyne unjustly warming the bench when he's potentially exactly another "younger" Frank Lampard, or better, having scored 9 goals and made 10 assists last term in the Bundesliga; Mikel Obi still perfecting his passing game which is practically all about accurate passes to Petr Cech or John Terry; and the coach saying we won't be needing new players this January as Torres still remains, yes, you guessed it, Torres; Ba, Ba; and Samuel Eto'o, well, a russianized or more appropriately, an Anzhi mackhachkalized Samuel Eto'o? Just because Jose says so makes that so? Really? Well, that about sums up everything wrong about religion or fanaticism!
HGH Magic
you forgot to mention that we are sitting 3rd in the league table with 5 points separating us from the temporary league leaders in Arsenal, just finished top of the group in champions league, deservely thrashed Arsenal in their own turf in the COC to move to the next round. I'm not saying we shouldn't improve,but lowering our expections this season will help of course.
valachi
the answer then its just simple, We are second in the league looking to topple Arsenal in the next two fixtures, topped our Champs League group stage, Still in every competition. We seem to be in a better position than last season, YES! Our season is going as planned. Next!
kolagold25
*sorry third in the league
kolagold25
@HGH Magic honestly i will never attempt to cover up Mourinho's flaws you rightly pointed out. They're all his faults and these are the areas i personally look forward to see him improves but not so desperate to see that happen within a twinkle of an eye. I strongly believe all these will fall into place as time moves on.
valachi
Talking about good or attracting football speaks alot on how we have clueless cfc fans.cfc has never had one style of play,and that has costed them alot in epl and ucl compared to the likes of madrid,baca,milan,bayarn who won many cups than cfc.all this teams played good football and still try to improve.now english teams with puff n huff just reflects that when playing in WCs...hence what do they have to show off to teams like spain,brazil,german.chile and even japan.i bet to u,that teams will have to adopt attractive style of play to reach top or the coming WC WILL PROVE ME WRONG.i rest my care.
mzee69
Report Abuse lol ;-)
HGH Magic
ok, from chelsea to England now right? Fine. Going by your impressive logic the likes of Chile, Germany and China you mentioned has benefitted from playing exciting football in the world cup recently(or ever) right?
valachi
Lol valachi ... reminds of a certain member aptly named "Johnny comes lately" ;-)
HGH Magic
Apparently i discovered today that bertrand has been injured for two weeks since ,so i guess that having dave at left bave not been so bad so far , also about playing young players , i mean look at our team for crying out loud , we dont even have our first team yet , we have to get rid of some dead wood , and now you are thinking of integrating players ??? common be realistic , lets sort out the first team first before thinking of other people
Don capon
talking about KDB , same people were clamouring for him to play , now i am not defending jose or anything . he adds width to his team , so playing kdb when mata is on the bench is not realistic as oscar his jose's first choice , the thing is i am not worried because no matter what one person has to be on the bench , so one person like i said earlier on will be the fall guy AND it is most likely to be the cheapest of the attackers because lets face it removing 30 million pound willian or 2 player of the year mata or even 32 million pound hazard is more disastrous
Don capon
Report Abuse Hahahaha @HGH Magic i seconded.
valachi
@nely.., Barca's football may be boring to you.... but you are just one entity... the whole world or majority knows that teams like Barca, Bayer and R.Madrid play exciting and brilliant football.... Most football neutrals would rather watch Barca play than watch a Mourinho Chelsea... You said you are English and you love fast paced..... football... what is fast paced about our football so far this season? we've had some exciting games and played some good football but majority have been boring... Even some of the games we won, the only exciting moment is when the ball enters the net.... And I don't agree that what we are playing now is English football, maybe the slow-paced boring version of English football though?.... If what we play now is English football, then no wonder England has failed to win any trophy for donkey years now... The only reason we on the other may stand a chance of winning is because we have better individual players than England.....If you claim Arsenal haven't won anything by playing "nearly perfect football" may I ask you what England has won/achieved by playing English football... so why do we have to play the outdated English football in the first place... You want to see balanced yet exciting football, go watch Bayern (both Heynckes and Pep's), watch Dortmund, watch Everton.... Our football this season is not English football because even the now outdated English football is more exciting than this.....
Latunvic
I love Chelsea but I'm not going to travel thousands of miles and spend a small fortune to watch unexciting football.
THEBREEZE
Some people try to point out that we're good just because we sitting top of the group in CL. what do u want to proud of? we're the group winner with the least point compare to other group winners. our group consists of Schalke, sitting 6th in that average Bundesliga with 17 points behind Bayern, then Basel that people said had beating the likes of Bayern and Barca yet got beaten by Draxler & co, and do I need to explain about Bucharest? so in the other words we top the easiest group in the tournament with JUST 12 points, not 15 nor 18. so stop repeat that we top the group or are u simply want to say that we already did something extraordinary?
Chelsea n Torres Fan
we did nothing extraordinary but an upgrade on last season. Personal opinion though, not forcing it down on anyone's throat.
valachi
just look at the stats in the games so far this season. maybe 2 games that can be classified as boring.
zg2000fs
and lol saying that madrid plays exciting football now or during mourinho, as a year ago it was moan moan moan counter attacking cr7 moan moan moan football
zg2000fs
@chelsea n Torres, We qualifying from that group is called doing the job rather than great performance which we hope the team will imbibe sooner rather than later but the key words here are 'doing the job'. plus you cannot discredit that we topped the table because of weaker teams when you put into consideration a team like juve (who won us 3-0) losing their place to Galatasaray. We exited this same competition last season with more points than some other group leaders but 'failed to do the job'. what do you make of that??
kolagold25
Its funny how people are placing our qualification from that cheesy group as a top achievement.....I tell you what,Jose would have been sacked had we failed to qualify from that group of losers. Anyway,as HGH rightly said up top,Get off the bandwagon and stop the bickering. Good football isnt about all possession,Even Barca is trying to model their football on the Bayern blueprint now and so far,we can see it in their games.Fans and journalists are talking about it which means they are doing it in training and trying it in games. Chelsea on the other hand have no identity. Ive seen 20 games and i cant say for certain what style we are trying to play which brings even more questions when you think.....what do they do in training???? What idea is Jose trying to implement in training? Cos i am not seeing that idea in our games. Anyway,someone said it might be down to our misfiring strikers and if we start scoring more,the style might be more visible.I will give it 5 more games.
3nity
i don't mind how awful we play so far we are top of the league at the end of those games ;)
kolagold25
Oh well,Im glad someone's paid a lot to watch better football and that person alone makes the important decisions.
3nity
Juventus last season was much better than Juventus this season because we face them with Andrea Pirlo in the form of his life (alongside Arturo Vidal). Leverkusen that we faced last time is much better than Schalke that we faced this season (remember Ballack?). We got 10 points last season (correct me if I'm wrong) compared 12 for this season. Not much improvement considering we have easier group than last time. But that is not my point. On my side I'm happy that we top the group and wish we can win it again. My point is don't give topping the group a reason to hide the facts that we played crap football in 3 out of 6 games that is 2 against Basel and 1 against Bucharest...
Chelsea n Torres Fan
Newcastle, Everton and Stoke all played useless football against Chelsea, BUT THEY ALL WON !! Barcelona style football would never survive in the Premier League, never in a million years. If `Johnny come lately`s don`t like what they are seeing, go and support Barcelona in their wonderful one dimensional 3 team league. Or Bayern Munich in their 2 team league. Or in France, Italy, Holland and Belgium who all play in uncompetitive leagues. That`s what I call BORING.
Blueheart9
"go and support Barcelona" and "get behind the team" banner always used by some people who prefer the easy way to defend themselves. it's mostly used by a kids who doesn't have a constructive criticism to give in. When Mourinho give his 1st interview after his come back he did say that he want to feel the same pressure when managing chelsea. I'm fully behind the team and as a fan I want to voice my discontent with our performance and want him to correct this even he didn't hear me...
Chelsea n Torres Fan
He also said we would tear teams apart,so whats the "godfather" still waiting for??
Ken4CFC
crap or not crap we did the job necessary of us init. That's the most crucial thing
kolagold25
Lets see how long roman is gonna take the crap,irrespective of job done or not
Ken4CFC
A true assessment of our progress this season could only be made at the very end of it. So enough of the hasty conclusions & wait till then. In my own opinion, we have progressed this season & our inconsistency (which is mainly due to the ineptitude of some playing personnel) has overshadowed the good work. Its merely a case of people remembering the times you went wrong (micro) more than the times you did right (macro).
Louis Lancuv
*remembering the times you went wrong over*
Louis Lancuv
Ken4CFC - you are just hating
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