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The Great Lukaku U-Turn

As speculations surrounding the future of Chelsea striker Romelu Lukaku continue to sell papers locally and internationally with some lazy-arsed journos duly taking advantage of the deafening silence coming out of Chelsea to indiscriminately smile to the bank on end, it would seem the club have had enough with an official word finally coming through from no less an authority than Jose Mourinho no.2, Steve Holland.


The assistant first-team coach has put paid to all grey areas concerning Lukaku as he insists the 21-year-old big Belgian will link up with the squad for their two-week pre-season training camp across Europe next week.


Holland said: "The plan is that he will join up with us at some stage during the second week when we are in Holland."


Asked whether he won`t be going anywhere until then, Holland replied: "That`s the situation as I understand it."


Meanwhile, the misunderstood prodigy took time to also drop a hint that his immediate future lies in SW6 when he changed his Twitter biography to say he was a Chelsea player, which previously had no mention of Chelsea Football Club therein.


So that is simply that.


And for all those pathological critics and cynics who find it impossible to log unto a Chelsea forum(sure you know who you are) without saying something unnecessarily untoward about the youngster who, for all intents and purposes, was only trying to secure his future, albeit publicly, this seems the perfect time to shut up, isn't it?!




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The Journalist

Writer: Josh_Mou  Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday July 20 2014

Time: 2:01PM

Your Comments

If he stays, i hope he starts scoring goals for fun as he's done at Everton and WBA lest @StamforDLion roars.
BOTUM
The lad only needs to learn to keep his mouth shut!
unclezillion
Well i would have been surprised if he wasn't going to report back for preseason. he was suppose to stay till he decided to go loan the last time. Lets see what gives yet this time
kolagold25
I will wait and see what Sept 1 this year brings. We all know how things went last year so we should not get ahead of ourselves here..the transfer window still has a long way to go.
GabeU
Regarding the last line of your article - the supporters and critics alike, have ZERO responsibility to keep quiet. Quite to the contrary - this is make or break for Lukaku. All of the onus is on him to either perform, or pack his bags. If he does well, all may well be forgiven. Of course, if he doesn't one can't complain if the "I told you so" brigade doesn't come beating down your door. That was basically the invitation with the last paragraph, wasn't it?
solid7
We have all heard from Mourinho that we are done buying then don't we all see it that Lukaku will stay to compete with Costa and Torres since the BA is gone?
Petrov
He's a kid and should shut up (atleast he has an agent, and can afford PR managers). whatever he says, u see abit of impatience and disrespect to CFC. Anybody that blames CFC fans for bashing Lukaku is just playing self righteous and "I know better than all" syndrome, e.g @MQ. I will not tell a Mikel to shut up cus he doesn't solve his probs in the media, he(mikel) is patient and loyal. Lukaku is impatient and not loyal to the club. Even Courtois is the same. And that's plain truth. call me whatever u want... But the truth hurts so... I'm waiting.
seanwillex
Thank God for small mercies and thank you Steve Holland. At least we have heard something from the club on this long drawn out soap opera.
syed230183_chelseafc
Read in couple of news sources that Jose has agreed to keep him at SW6 & compete with DC & FT. I think that is healthy & a step in the right direction to have a striking list of Diego Costa, Torres & Lukaku all competing for place as the number one. The lad should grab the olive branch & learn to talk less & work hard to show what he can do. The board should however use that opportunity to tie him down to a long term deal, yes why not do with Lukaku if Jose can do with Balotelli at Inter, i mean is he any worse? With that i guess the issue of 2nd striker is sorted remaining a new CM/CDM to partner Matic in the pivot having moved on Mikel or Ramires or both. KTBFFH!!!
Jerry Blues
Lukaku is right to complain. He is an ambitious player that was forced to sit on our bench or in the stand for one whole year. It was a complete year wasted for the youngster. In his spells for both WBA and Everton he continually out scored our `superstar strikers` and there are clubs up and down the country, who would love to have him in their team and would take him seriously. He is not a Solamon Kalou who had average ability and was willing to be a regular substitute throughout his playing career, he is obviously more ambitious and feels that he can reach the very top. It is now down to Chelsea, who need to give him the chance to be our second striker along with Costa. He has earned that right, or sell him to a rival, just like we did with Sturridge and regret it for years to come. Why should he just sit around and waste his time again in the stand or on loan. What happens if Costa struggles next season, we are once again hoping that Torres can produce and we all know what is likely to happen there.
Blueheart9
^^LOL. This VC will not kill me with laughter and dramas. whew!
kolagold25
The transfer window closes on September 1. I would suggest Josh_Mou to direct the last lines towards me and all the other so called Lukaku Haters on September 1. Lets see if he will be here. Lets see if he will stop Running his Mouth and Disrespecting Chelsea. Remember the Main Reason why all the so called Lukaku Haters have Criticized Lukaku. He needs to shut his mouth and show Respect to his Team Mates and Especially Chelsea, his Employers. I reiterate . . . he can't be our number one spearhead. He can come to the pitch from the bench. Costa is our undisputed number one striker Unless Torres, Lukaku? or some other striker dislodges him by playing better than him and all the other strikers on a regular basis. Will he be happy to sit on the bench? Can someone guarantee that he won't start Yapping again? Can someone guarantee that he won't disrespect the manager and staff like the way he refused to shake Belgium's Manager's Hand? September 1. Remember the Date.
StamfordDLion
Blueheart9: What's the point of Disrespecting Chelsea and Yapping in Public? Someone (His Agent/Dad) ought to knock some Sense into his Big Head and tell him that he should talk to Jose in Private. What's the Point of Spilling Beans and hanging all his dirty laundry in public?
StamfordDLion
Jose moved to Real after winning the Treble. When Jose moved to Real, Inter sold Mario Balotelli to City. I wonder why Inter sold Balotelli to City? One can argue that Inter were tired of his antics. I wonder why City sold Balotelli to AC Milan? One can argue that City were tired of his antics. How can one say with confidence that Jose wouldn't have told Inter to sell Balotelli to Inter if he had stayed in Inter after winning the Treble?
StamfordDLion
Can you guarantee that he Won't ask for a Loan Move at the 11th hour of the Transfer Window like Last Season? Can you guarantee that he won't ask for a Permanent Move to another club?
StamfordDLion
September 1: Remember the Date!
StamfordDLion
Lukaku will see how good/bad he is during the pre-season with Costa and Torres beside him, and then it will be Mourinho and Lukaku himself deciding if and where he will go. The in's are in, but the out's will be decided upon during the pre-season.
FS
On similar note, during pre-season anything can happen, but I wouldn't be surprised too much if on the first day of the league there's certain Peter Cech between the sticks and Thibaut Courtois on the bench. It def. can be other way around too, and right now it looks as a more realistic option.
FS
We only have the media`s perspective of things, always trying to create disharmony and unsettle both the club and player. LUKAKU DESERVES A CHANCE AT CHELSEA, JUST LIKE STURRIDGE DID, as opposed to sticking with Torres week after week, who has not produced. Anyone in their right mind would be fed up and wonder what the hell is going on. He`s young, he`s ambitious and maybe a little naïve, but that does not mean that we should just get rid of him to strengthen a rival. The player has not been managed correctly by the club. Why have the club not said a word since the world cup and just left the player in limbo once again ? that I`m afraid is poor management of a young player.
Blueheart9
If lukaku is willing to fight for his place and a Chelsea fc shirt then if am all for him staying.if he is only going to cry bitch whinge and moan after 1/2 months about not playing enough then sell him. We don't need any mouthy players in this squad. Demba ba was fantastic while with us as he didn't kick up any fuss what so ever and lukaku would do well to copy that great mans lead.
Dave-David
Sturridge got his chance at Chelsea and he played well when he was here. Benitez sold him.
FS
Learn and be perfect Lukaku.
Emai Vine
Sturridge...Bolton/Liverpool...Lukaku...West Brom/Everton, scored regularly. Why didn't they at CFC? must be to do with tactics or the millstone of Torres.
Since1963
Stamfordlion is supporting the one thing that brings us together which is chelsea. The only thing you can blame him for is overemphasizing on the matter. His fact about lukaku is spot on and even though i belong to the group of those who want lukaku to stay, its only because i'm giving the lad a benefit of doubt. But to see people trying to say lukaku is spot on with his behaviour is beyond alarming i must say.
kolagold25
BlueHeart9: Chelsea have not managed Lukaku well? Apart from the year he spent under AVB, Chelsea have done everything to help him. They send him out on loan to WBA to get much needed PL Experience. At the 11th Hour last season, Jose and Chelsea granted HIS Wish of going out on Loan. Why didn't he stick around Last Season and Compete with the other Strikers in our Squad. He talks As If he is already a Complete Striker and World Class. Why didn't he stick around to Dislodge Old Man Eto, an Inept Torres and so called Ineffective BA. In Hindsight, Last Season was the Best Opportunity for him to really show that he is ready for Chelsea. This coming season is a Different Ball Game. We have a New Striker who scored over 36 Goals Last Season for the La Liga Winners and CL Runners Up. A Player who played for a Team who play in a similar way to our club. A Player who is Good in the Air, Knows how to time his run and run behind the defenders into open spaces, who has physical strength and strong mentality, a player who is good with both feet and has good technique. In Diego Costa, we have a Player in his PRIME.
StamfordDLion
“The level of competition at big clubs should always be very high. People have been saying for some time that Chelsea have signed a striker, and if that’s Diego then it's very welcome.”
StamfordDLion
^^^ Fernando Torres
StamfordDLion
Let me ask why Lukaku does not turn up until the second week of the tour? Semi-final WC? Well, we have a few Brazilians that went that far, I assume they are starting the tour with everyone else? Yet again, if he really and truly wants to fight for his position at this club, would he not for-go any outstanding holiday and be there for the very start of the tour? He's had his 2-3 weeks holiday.
BlueABS
This is his chance to prove he is indispensable to Chelsea and Jose?
BlueABS
I mean come on Lukaku, this is another chance for a shop window, show what a complete striker you are!! Ha!
BlueABS
I suspect Jose and Chelsea know just how much Lukaku and his agent have been hawking themselves around the CL clubs. How can anyone say that Chelsea have mis-managed this guy after his antics last pre-season and also just before the WC. Perhaps Chelsea are just biding their time, after all, it doesn't sound like either he or his agent were banging down the gates at SB to discuss his future. Rather relying on snide comments to the media about how he has no clue what Chelsea want? This guy is gong to bite the hand that feeds him once again, but I think Chelsea are just going to play very smart with him. I hope he learns a lesson.
BlueABS
OFF TOPIC: omeruo re-joins Middlesbrough and Mario pasalic is heading to the la liga(elche) for a year loan.
Ige Bosun
I doubt that Benitez could sell Sturridge. I don't think he had that kind of authority.
foreign_viewer
stop targeting forum members its disgusting ... U should accept whatever their opinion is n turn other way if u hate it ...
gary777
its good hes not joining preseason torres n costa can work with fab n others n cement their places in the first team ... May b jose n club do not want to waste their time with him ... the boy needs some prey drive it seems for cfc success
gary777
this issue really has got to be one of the most sensitive issues amongst us blue fans,so much so that it has arguably replaced the famous Mikel arguements of the past. Seems we always enjoy bickerings among each other. I just hope the club handles it the best way they feel. With the desire of many of us Lukaku should have been gone by now,but luckilly or unluckilly he's still here. The club is finally saying something and though it may not be what many of us want,it's a good step I think. The club may see things different from the way we do,seriously.Though I feel that the major reason Lukaku left for loan last season was that it was a world cup year,and fearing competition from Benteke and the likes he needed playing time,enough playing time. The system was clearly against Lukaku's interests,I guess . I dont want to sound immodest but try ask yourself this :As a young ambitious striker,who wants to be Belgium's main striker,would you enjoy playing an almost obvious third fiddle to hitherto clinical strikers like Toress and Eto in a world cup year when the chance of beating them was slim being elite and experienced strikers themselves as Sturridge before suffered?.If you talk of hindsight you might be getting it wrong because few thought it would turn out that we would still have goal gluts from our strikers again,with Eto coming and Ba also to help and Jose being the master motivator for Toress.Put yourself in the young man's shoes too.If Jose was uncomfortable with Balo what stopped him from selling him himself during his time there? Was he scared of the boy?
Samychim
He talks too much bt he ll grow out of it. He has d potential to be a top striker nd he's got to embrace competition. If he now want to stay, i ll be very happy.....
Demmyblues
etoo's coming to Chelsea was almost like if Drogba returns to us. By that I mean an experienced great striker whoe has won trophies and scored lots of goals . Do you think if Toress is sold and Drogba is bought again ,with Costa around ,that Lukaku would have enough playing time? Add that it's a WC year and you get my drift
Samychim
Sturridge was sold while Benitez was the manager at Chelsea. Authority or not, it happened on his watch so he is very much to blame.
FS
On another note, I've read that Mario Mandzukic phoned Diego Simeone the day that he signed for Atletico and asked if he can start the pre-season a day or two earlier because he is itching to prove himself. Lukaku and a lot of others could learn from the guy.
FS
The French media is claiming Drogba will sign a one year deal with us this week ,if this is true ..what will the impact be for Lukaku ? . I think it would be good for him to study with Drogba and than we also have Torres ,demoted to 4th place striker ! ,will he just collect his pay check and be quiet ? All speculation but it could be an interesting week .
Michael Reid
its good if drogba come he can train the first team and b team as well ... Bamfork baker izzy impressed during the friendlies ... Izzy kinda reminds of drogba lol
gary777
If drogba comes then one of lukaku or torres has to leave...I am sure Jose wants to use the preseason to see who he will pick out of torres and lukaku...if lukaku can prove himself in preseason then he will be our second choice striker behind Diego Costa but if he cant,then torres will be the second choice striker...I don't see us having 4 strikers..thats not just possible
Hazard11
Hazard11: Good luck trying to find a club who is willing to pay the wages to Torres that we give him
StamfordDLion
Benitez did not sell Sturridge. Di Matteo refused to play him so Sturridge decided to leave.
foreign_viewer
Di Mateo used Sturridge. Sturridge was sold under Benitez. Fact.
FS
Benteke was injured and couldn't fly on the plane that went to the WC. Belgium chose Lukaku and 19 year old Origi. By forcing a Loan Move at the 11th Hour, one can argue that its plain to see where his priority lies. Not Chelsea But Himself. There were Rumours of Chelsea loaning out BA to Arsenal last season. Lukaku forced his way out of the squad. Is he going to force a Loan Move again because Chelsea have bought Costa?
StamfordDLion
Drogba to come back and do what??? RUBBISH DEAL if its true, the guy has absolutely nothing to offer again, and @FS benitez has no hand whatsoever in the sale of sturrigde, he was offered a contract extension but refused to sign and left for pool, it was clearly a his decision to leave.
oscarr
Sturridge got no chance to play in is preferred position.. He spent more time on the bench than on the pitch and was already sold before Rafa came to Chelsea, they only had to wait for the transfer window to re-open before the transfer could be officially completed...
Latunvic
This @FS guy has to be really CLUELESS if he thinks rafa sold sturrigde.
oscarr
Why should we give Lukaku only preseason to prove himself.... does it mean we'll return or sell Diego Costa too if he fails to prove himself during preseason?
Latunvic
No club is going to pay Torres' wages so he's Chelsea until his contract runs out. As such, we have our two strikers. The third spot is all that is left. If DD returns that spot is his We'll see what Lukaku can do to prove himself. Rather than run his mouth, he should have spent 8 hrs/day in front of a wall working on his first touch and spending another 2 hours watching film to learn how to position himself. Our biggest concern is who will pair with Matic if we continue with the 4-2-3-1. Ramires and Mikel won't frighten anyone. Lastly, Jose needs to figure-out how to break down the bus parking minnows and that will require a striker that can lay with their back to goal
rockhead
*play*
rockhead
Whoa, is foreign_viewer now FS? Only a dolt would think that Benitez had the authority to sell anyone...
solid7
@f_v sturidge came home fast from de world cup
the_blues
@f_v sturidge came home fast from de world cup
the_blues
So... "clueless", "dolt".. What else fellow Chelsea fans? Any more name calling for me just because I said Sturridge was sold while Benitez was in charge? You are great guys, really great.
FS
Ok. I also said he was sold by Benitez, but that was wrong. He wasn't sold by Benitez. He was sold while Benitez was in charge. That enough for the names?
FS
What's all the fuss about,he's useless and Sturridge showed at the WC he's not much better.
THEBREEZE
Stop being aggresive nd all dis names calling. Share ur opinion nd accept dat people might look at it in different ways. I think its all part of the beauty of d game. Above all, we re chelsea fans we all want our club to d well#OneLove
Demmyblues
Magic_quill: Read my post again. Did Benteke play in the WC? Wasn't he injured? What's wrong with my statement? Didn't Belgium choose Lukaku and 19 year old Origi? Again what's wrong with my point? Didn't Lukaku force a move at the 11th hour? Again what's wrong with this point? Some posters here are arguing that he forced a Loan Move because his world cup spot was in Jeopardy. Isn't it clear to see where his priorities lay? Belgium and Not Chelsea. Lukaku forced a Loan Move because he was afraid of Competition at Chelsea. Even if Benteke hadn't got injured, I doubt Belgium wouldn't have taken Lukaku to the World Cup as a Second Striker. They took a 19 year old Origi who plays for Lille to the World Cup as a second striker (Origi later stole Lukaku's Spot as the Starting Striker in the WC). Don't tell me that Lukaku's WC Spot was in Jeopardy. I feel that he was going on the plane to the WC regardless of Benteke's Injury.
StamfordDLion
(I really dunno why a poster will deliberately post arrant nonsense, absolute falsity and flawed opinions dressed up for the gullible as facts just for arguments' sake! Seeking attention, deluded or wannabe keyboard warrior? Lol) If you think that the Stats and Facts that I have provided are Flawed or Don't Make Sense then counter my claims with Stats and Facts. Engage in a Civil Debate.
StamfordDLion
(Seeking attention, deluded or wannabe keyboard warrior?) Chuckles! This statement clearly proves who is acting like a keyboard warrior.
StamfordDLion
(Did I just read that? Come on now lad, everyone knows Benteke wasn't yet injured when Lukaku left on loan so what's your point? *smh*) Where in my post have I mentioned that Benteke was injured before the transfer window closed last season? My point is that by forcing a loan move at the 11th hour, its plain to see that Lukaku is afraid of competing with other strikers at Chelsea. His World Cup spot was never in Jeopardy. He was flying to Brazil even if Benteke was injured. He was afraid of competing with other strikers at Chelsea and looked for an easy way out. He thought about himself and not Chelsea by forcing a Loan Move at the 11th hour. You get my point?
StamfordDLion
@Stamford.... what stats and facts have you provided? Maybe I missed them... can you please re-post them?
Latunvic
Latunvic: Check out all the posts that I have posted on this thread. From Jose to Costa to Lukaku to Torres to Balotelli . . . I have given my opinion in some posts (Rational Opinions IMO) I have used Facts and Stats to back up my Opinions. Which post or which point of mine do you disagree with? Identify them. Do I have to again post about Jose being a Treble Winner at Inter, or Balotelli being sold by Inter to City and City selling him to AC Milan, or about Costa being the number one striker of the La Liga Winners and CL Runners Up, or Lukaku forcing a Loan Move last season (remember Jose compelled Lukaku to admit) or Benteke being injured and not going to the WC?
StamfordDLion
@stamford,I just saw ypur post now on Benteke and Origi. At the time of that '11th hour loan request' Benteke was still fit and was clearly ahead of Lukaku in the pecking order for Belgium. Origi wasn't even spoken of then. Lukaku wanted to be the first choice I guess.
Samychim
One can argue that Lukaku thought about himself and not Chelsea and took the easy way out. Instead of trying to compete with other strikers at Chelsea and start carving a career at Chelsea last season, he opted to play for a lesser side Everton.
StamfordDLion
@stamford ,for a 19 yr old playing against older players? Come on man! don't be biased. Even my 2 year old kid would know that his chances were slim to break past those strikers. One could think that he thought about himself in that aspect, yes ,I may not argue against that,but to be honest who wouldn't want to be first choice in his national team in a world cup year? Who wouldn't think of himself first at that time of one's career? Yeah his media-induced statements may have been too uncontrolled for anyone's liking...but to say that he left for loan for the wrong reasons is perhaps being unfair. Look at Moses who played lmuch less time for Liverpool and what that got him with the Nigerian team. Players don't enjoy that. And at that time that seems to be what Lukaku wanted to avoid. Some players may be content to come from the bench and earn their pay like Chicharito,Mikel, S.Kalou and the likes,but Lukaku seems not to fall in that category. Believe me,I think such players usually(except something else goes wrong) reach great heights in their careers. Like I said earlier,seems the club doesn' see things the way we do. With the way we have let Ba and Eto leave and Jose saying no more additions,with Drogba maybe coming in(to perhaps coach our young strikers,Lukaku inclusive),and no other strikers are being linked to us,I think Mou is trying to make the atmosphere condusive for Lukaku a bit. Clearly the window is not over but just saying...who knows what's actually going on?
Samychim
@Stamford... but the facts and stats you claim you've provided have no bearing on the issue being discussed. Balotelli was sold to Mancity, Mourinho won treble, etc... What has that got to do with Steve Holland's comment on Lukaku? Okay, are you aware that in 126 minutes of World Cup action Diego Costa did not have a single shot on target let alone score a goal.... while Lukaku had 4 shots on target, 1 goal and 1 assist. Do you know that Lukaku scored 121 goals in 68 games for Lierse, moved to Anderlecht and scored 131 goals in 93 games as a youth player and 33 goals in 73 appearances for the senior team. His goals also helped Anderlecht reach quarter-finals of the Europa League. Lukaku scored 17 in 35 games for WBA and 15 in 31 games for Everton. Top scorer in Belgium at the age of 17..... I can go on and on.... These are all facts too...
Latunvic
The Origi that you keep making noise about has less than 10 career goals... I don't even understand how you can compare Origi to Lukaku....
Latunvic
@StamfordDLion, u got your point spot on Lukaku. He appears not to have any iota of loyalty in him. At the same time, the way u hit it is kinda becoming boring and somehow annoying. U don't want to start sounding like one directional Foreign_viewer. I mean, quoting people and pasting it is childish to me. U can make your points and move on. Everybody wont agree with u no matter how truthful your point is but that is what makes life interesting.
Shyna
Samychim: If you turn back the pages of VC to the days before the transfer window closed last season, you can see that I was very sympathetic towards Lukaku and in fact I commented that a Loan might do him good. I was especially sympathetic towards him when he missed that crucial penalty against Bayern. No where will you find so called Lukaku Hating comments from me. I am time and again said that the Main Reason why so called Lukaku Haters have Criticized Lukaku is because of his loud mouth. I don't care about a single player. In fact I am surprised why some people are fawning over Lukaku when he has disrespected Chelsea on a regular basis. No one knows what is going to happen. Lets wait and see if Lukaku will start mouthing again. Lets wait and see if Mr. Complete Player, Lukaku is going to be Happy Playing second fiddle to Costa and Compete with Torres and Rumoured Player/Coach Legendary Drogba.
StamfordDLion
Latunvic: I posted posts about Jose and Mario Balotelli as a response to Jerry Blues post. Do scroll above and see for yourself. How about calling other people out for planting topics not related to Lukaku on a Lukaku thread?
StamfordDLion
Shyna: For your own good I would suggest you to skip reading my posts since they seem to annoy you. One of the good things about VC is that this is a forum where you get responses and reactions from other posters. I admit that I like expressing my thoughts and engaging in a debate with other posters. With some posters I agree and with some I don't. As long as we are not throwing insults and using derogatory terms, I don't see whats the problem debating and interacting with posters?
StamfordDLion
Latunvic: How can you say that I can't compare Origi to Lukaku? They were playing in the same team and competing with each other for the same spot. If I am not mistaken, Origi scored the same amount of goals Lukaku scored for Belgium during the WC.
StamfordDLion
Magic_Quill: Did I touch a Nerve? Chuckles
StamfordDLion
No one denies that lukaku and his agent seem to have had too much to say. But has anyone actually seen any film clipping of him slagging Chelsea FC off ? Lukaku is a young player, he is hungry and believes that he can perform at the top level now. Should we just get rid of him because he has got too much to say, because if that is the case ManU should have got rid of Roy Keane one week after they purchased him and the same goes for Paul Ince. Should Liverpool have got rid of Souness who always had too much to say, but was a quality midfield player. Give the guy a season, if he can`t cut it, many teams would still come in for him. The fact is, he scores goals and that is something our forwards could not do last season and as for his 1st touch, I`ve got to say, that is far better than Drogbas was when he 1st arrived. Drogba asked for time to settle, Lukaku deserves the same, as opposed to just selling him to a rival.
Blueheart9
Blueheart9: Do you want me to post comments from Lukaku that are Negative in Nature? United is not Chelsea. I don't want players who are too big for their boots at Chelsea. We all know how Keane departed from United.
StamfordDLion
@Stamford, yes please, TV interviews only, not quotes from close friends or representatives from a different country, I`d be very interested to see them. As for United not being Chelsea, United were the dominant force in English football by a country mile when both Keane and then later when Ince represented them. as were Liverpool when Souness was mouthing it off while representing them. Chelsea finished 3rd last season. Both those clubs were of higher standing at the time than Chelsea are at present, but still they had major players slagging everything off.
Blueheart9
Who cares if United or Liverpool were/are the dominant forces? I don't care. I only care about Chelsea. I don't want players at Chelsea who don't show respect to their employers (Chelsea) or give Indications of going elsewhere. I want fully committed players at Chelsea.
StamfordDLion
But when quizzed as to the thinking behind allowing him to leave again, Mourinho said: "Romelu likes to speak. He's a young boy. But the only thing that he didn't say is why he went to Everton on loan. "My last contact with him was to tell him exactly that. 'Why do you never say why you are not here?' "It's something that he should say, because he likes to speak, the reason why he is not with Chelsea and he is in Everton."
StamfordDLion
http://www1.skysports.com/news/11095/9048809/
StamfordDLion
He is quoted as saying by Sky Italia: "I'm proud of Juventus' interest in me, but I'm just thinking of Belgium for now."
StamfordDLion
http://www1.skysports.com/news/11095/9350878/
StamfordDLion
Roy Keane left Manchester United only once his legs had gone, as did Ince and Souness. They weren`t disposed of prior to that, as they were too valuable to their clubs. Football is about personalities, some are volatile, some are stupid, but that doesn`t mean that we should just get rid of one of the most promising young players in world football, because he, his agent or a foreign journalist has reported something, which might well have been taken out of context. If we didn`t have outspoken individuals in sport, there would be no place for Mohammed Ali, John Mcenroe, Fergie, Brian Clough, Jose Mourinho etc etc and how boring would that be.
Blueheart9
In comments reported by Het Nieuwsblad, Wilmots is quoted as saying: "He has to stop talking about tactics. He wants to play himself, obviously. "Mourinho has already said he talks too much. I agree. His club decides where he plays, I decide the tactics in the national team. "I hope he understands."
StamfordDLion
http://www1.skysports.com/news/11095/9094442/
StamfordDLion
According to Sky Sports, Romelu Lukaku informed Chelsea he wanted out after being the only player not to convert a penalty during the 2013 UEFA Super Cup loss to Bayern Munich: Romelu Lukaku made a transfer request at Chelsea before being granted a temporary move to Everton. His request was immediately rejected and a loan with Everton negotiated on September 2, transfer deadline day, with his season-long switch ending the prospect of Ba leaving Stamford Bridge on loan.
StamfordDLion
Sky News is not my Close Friend and to me, Sky News is pretty reliable.
StamfordDLion
The Belgian forward has said he’s looking to use the World Cup as a shopping window to force a transfer away from Stamford Bridge following the tournament in Brazil. “You know Chelsea, every year they buy a new top striker - But no problem. Many clubs are interested in me. At this stage, I have to look to myself. I have to play a good World Cup. That’s very interesting for all the players looking for a transfer,” the striker has been quoted this morning.
StamfordDLion
Don't want players at Chelsea who has the Potential to Stink the Dressing Room and create Disharmony in the Squad. Did you see his reaction when he was substituted in the WC for Origi. He refused to shake Wilmots (Belgian Manager) hand.
StamfordDLion
Disruptive Players ought to be given the Tevez Treatment. Liked how City booted Tevez.
StamfordDLion
Would like to see your comments Blueheart9
StamfordDLion
Personally i couldn't care less if a player is 'disruptive', i just want him to to score regularly for Chelsea.
Since1963
kaku: Thanks for giving me a new name. "Cockroach" Chuckles. An Upgrade from the old one. "Mosquito" Chuckles.
StamfordDLion
Blueheart9: All Quiet on the Western Front. Chuckles.
StamfordDLion
StamfordDlion...when will you get bored about this lukaku witch-hunting...?
dtm
When he moves away from Chelsea for Good or when I am convinced that he won't talk negatively about Chelsea.
StamfordDLion
@Stamford, that is obviously the difference between us, some believe everything they hear and read, others don`t. Hazard didn`t track back against Atletico and Jose criticised him, as well as the player being interested in PSG, does that mean we should get rid of him ? Part of Lukaku`s problem is that is he is surrounded on International duty by two of his good mates, De Bruyne and Courtois who also aren`t in Chelsea`s 1st team, who have a coach who is continually saying the players should leave CFC unless they are playing for us. Lukaku has made mistakes, accept it and let him learn and grow, I`m sure one day he will reflect on his immaturity. 12 months is a short period to see if he is both good enough and professional enough.
Blueheart9
LMAO @Blueheart9: very strange that you mention Lukaku in the same breath as those football and sporting legends. If any of those could be classed as 'mouthy', it's because they had the talent and status to express their views.
BlueABS
LMAO @Kaku - what's with the 'cockroach' at another member? Really, you have seriously dropped in my estimation and your quality of post.
BlueABS
So has McQ undergone another transformation into the magic quill character? Ha!
BlueABS
Maybe he had to, because it is not only Lukaku that has supposedly done a big U-turn, ehhh McQ / MQ / whoever you are ;-)
BlueABS
Makes me laugh when people accuse others of believing what the media says, but fail to comprehend what comes out of a players mouth.
BlueABS
Lol... @BlueABS That McQ guy is just something else on this forum. But then again, in a big family u get all sorts of characters... he can come out of hiding, we can tolerate him as he's blue. **LMAO**
seanwillex
Blueheart9: The quotes that I have posted above are from Wilmot, Jose and Lukaku himself. Are you trying to say that Sky News were writing false stories and writing false quotes? I don't read or believe stories from papers like The Sun of Dailymail BUT Sky News for me is Reliable. Go and read what I wrote about Hazard. I said that if he really wants to go to PSG and hands in a transfer request and if we get Bale Type of Money from PSG, then we ought to let him go. No point keeping an Unhappy Player who can Stink the Dressing Room and Create Unrest.
StamfordDLion
Sad indictment of the world we live in today and many posters here that ambition and self-promotion (thinking of oneself) is seen as worthier than loyalty and being a team player (thinking about others affiliated to you).
BlueABS
@BlueABS, Souness was dismissed from Spurs at the same age as Lukaku is now for not being good enough. at this moment we don`t actually know if he will ever be good enough at the top level. Keeping him as a striker to come on after 70 minutes seems to be a good option to me, just as the USA found out in the world cup.
Blueheart9
@Stamford... You post comments you see on the internet and want everyone to believe it. Sky sport are now reliable because they posted news that suit your motive. We can't hate one of our best young talents based on hearsay, they said, I read, sentiments and recycled quotes from the media. Post links to videos showing Lukaku saying everything you claim he said; in English... You said Origi scored same number of goals as Lukaku but choose to avoid the stats and facts I provided about Costa's zero shots on target and Lukaku's avalanche of goals compared to Origi's 8 to 10. Since you love stats/facts so much and promote it a lot, I'm surprised that you try to avoid facts posted by others.
Latunvic
@Blueheart - fair enough mate, that is about the only scenario where I can see Lukaku working for Chelsea, but I just don't see him buying into this role. If this is the Club's desired role for him, he will ask for a transfer.
BlueABS
@BlueABS, It's very easy and convenient to come to the internet to pull stunts and claim superman, saint, holier than thou, selflessness, I'll sacrifice my life and career to please the general public... when in actual sense you've moved from one employer to another in search of job satisfaction...
Latunvic
Latunvic: The quotes that I have posted are from Lukaku, Jose and Wilmot. Are you trying to say that Sky News were making up Quotes and Attributing them to Lukaku, Jose and Wilmot?
StamfordDLion
@kaku: ur cockroach trolling is not nice
Demmyblues
Latunvic: Scroll up and read my post again. I said that if I am not mistaken, Origi scored the same number of goals as Lukaku in the WC. I also said that 19 year old Origi who as you claim is not as experienced and a better player than Lukaku benched Lukaku for two games if I am not mistaken.
StamfordDLion
@latunvic. Am a big fan of lukaku nd i really want him to stay bt d truth is dat he runs his mouth too much. Dose comments stamfordDlion posted abt him re nt hearsays bt facts. Bt even after all he has said, i ll still like him to stay nd i hope he grow out of this nd stopping running his mouth anytime he sees a microfone
Demmyblues
Latunvic: I doubt if there are any Employers in any Sector in the World that will not take action against an Employee who talks negatively about his Employers in Public or who says in Public that he wants to Quit or he wants to move to another Work Place in Public. Chelsea is a Big Club with Millions of Fans around the World. Lukaku is paid a handsome sum by Chelsea. Lukaku is a Public Figure and His Words Have an Impact (Positive or Negative) Have you realised who Revels when he talks Negatively About Chelsea? The Chelsea Hating Media and Rival Fans. I don't want players whose commitment to Chelsea is Suspect.
StamfordDLion
lmao at KAKU who do you think you are honestly? Do you think you are some special member? Oh great KAKU let us know how we are supposed to feel and what we are supposed to say to please you!
BlueMIA
I have always Said and Maintained that Lukaku ought to be talking to Jose and Chelsea in PRIVATE. I don't believe that Jose is Unapproachable and can't talk to him in Private.
StamfordDLion
So let me get this strait.... I say something you don't like and disagree with and you just chuck it off and use insults left and right and that's that because you are simply right and that is it. You your self are free to criticize and analyze other players and our manager as you please though. In this thread I did not even say 1 word about Lukaku yet you are quick to judge and make a comment, while you were the original insult bringer to this debate. No one made a personal attack till you did. Honestly who the hell do you think you are buddy?
BlueMIA
And please point to my "nonsense". You are trying to have your cake and eat it. Get off your high horse.
BlueMIA
kaku: Feel free to skip reading my posts and stop with all the name calling. It was amusing the first time BUT its annoying now. Chuckles.
StamfordDLion
Guys if KAKU makes a statement it is fact! Anyone who disagrees with him is spewing nonsense! As a matter of fact let's all message KAKU privately before each post to make sure we satisfy his judgement.
BlueMIA
I don`t for one minute expect Lukaku to walk into the Chelsea 1st team. He would be one of 3 strikers that we would have at our disposal. If it got late in a game and we needed a different option up front, we could play 2 up front, or against teams like Stoke, height and strength would be beneficial and that is where the option of Lukaku could be an option. We all know certain teams like Arsenal and in Europe can`t cope with power and strength and I`m sure the player does not believe that he is going to be the one and only striker at the club, it is up to him to prove that he can`t be left out of the side and that will only come in time. As opposed to some people who just want to get rid of him because he is young, ambitious and frustrated, hence the remarks. Some players need to be shown that are wanted.
Blueheart9
Blueheart9: (Some players need to be shown that are wanted.) No need to mollycoddle Lukaku. He is a Fully Grown Man and has to act in a Professional Manner. There are more than 20 players in our first team squad (lets not start counting our players out on loan, in the reserves or in the youth squad) Jose has better things to do than to stoke an individual player's ego.
StamfordDLion
Magic_q and McQ: BROMANCE in Full Swing I see. Chuckles.
StamfordDLion
Remember the Date: September 1. Lets see if Lukaku will still be in Chelsea or not.
StamfordDLion
I am not trying to have any cake and eat it. All you do is criticize Lukaku and Mikel on different Lukaku and Mikel articles. Just go to google, type your name and VitalChelsea, all you see is criticisms on Lukaku and Mikel. If that isn't the case, what the hell are you doing here?? The last time I called you a moron, it was on a Lukaku article and all you said was I am the same poster protecting Mikel and some other gibberish that made no sense. I never see you comment anywhere else except Lukaku and Mikel. I didn't call you any names in my second post. @StamfordLion, Unfortunately I cannot skip and read people's comments on Lukaku because you occupy the comment section with 50+ comments of your rants, facts and nonsense about Lukaku. Please go away, you are boring and distracting. I will respond kindly to you to something else elsewhere, but overdone comments on a 21 year old kid. How old are you btw to be stalking a young kid......
KAKUfrank
That is NOT all I do. And even if that is all I do how do you come to the conclusion that it is non sense or jiberish? Just because you don't like it? I am free to criticize or praise as I please as long as I back my talk up. So if you don't like it don't read Mr. Hypocrite.
BlueMIA
Kaku: I have never called you out first and I have never resorted to name calling. Its okay for you to criticise the manager and some other players BUT you can't handle other people criticising a player you like. Double Standards! You sound like a Proper BULLY Kaku. All my Posts have been Directed as Responses to other posters posts. What's wrong to engage in a Clean and Civilised Debate. I am not calling you out to engage in a Debate with me. How old are you btw to be calling other members with childish names like "Cockroaches" and "Mosquitos" This is a Forum to share thoughts and interact/engage in a Debate with other members. With some members I agree and with some I don't. I haven't tried to stopped you from expressing your thoughts. Don't talk nonsense. Its not like you have not Criticised the Manager or other Players. I am criticising a player who has time and again spoken controversial things. I am criticising a player whose commitment to Chelsea is suspect.
StamfordDLion
People's Opinions are Termed as "Nonsense" just because their Opinions are Different. I would have said resorted to posting posts calling out other people's posts as Nonsense if I wanted to act all Gung-Ho and Rude.
StamfordDLion
Funny thing is Stamford me and you differ on Lukaku a lot in the sense that I still got hope he stays and works out for us. I just a few times pointed out that he is being unreasonable with his remarks/actions/demands. But KAKU just read what he wants I guess. He then goes on to criticize Torres with no remorse or Mourinho, etc. Hypocrite.
BlueMIA
If Lukaku is no longer at Chelsea FC on the 1st September, it doesn`t mean that it is the correct decision. Putting him on loan last season cost us the league, as did getting rid of Mata as opposed to Oscar. Selling Lukaku who is one of the most young, exciting players in world football will be a long term mistake. Maybe we will end up selling him to Benfica and then go and re sign him for 3 times the amount in 2 years time.
Blueheart9
BlueMIA: All members on VC have certain thoughts and opinions. Some of my thoughts are similar to yours and other members whereas some of my thoughts are different to yours and other members. We should all express our thoughts. The Attraction of VC is that we can express our thoughts and interact with other members. As long as we refrain from using personal insults, derogatory terms and resort to name calling, I don't see why we should all express our thoughts and interact with each other by engaging in a Civil Debate.
StamfordDLion
Blueheart9: We didn't put him on loan. He forced a Loan Move on the 11th hour of the transfer window. Who knows how Lukaku will become in the next few years? Maybe Bamford will be a Chelsea started in the years to come. Who knows?
StamfordDLion
* When Merlin posted an article ...
StamfordDLion
They have been over 20 Mourinho related articles this summer and over gazillion articles about players I might not like, trust or don't want playing for Chelsea. However, I don't spend all day everyday from morning till night hauling facts, opinions, insult etc that results in over 50+ comments in each and everyone of those articles. Only place I have seen that is mosquitoes circulating around the bush or when cockroaches see sugar. That is absolutely abnormal behavior. Just do CTRL + F on your latop, there are 73 results of your name on this page. That's at least over 60+ comments on Lukaku and you've been at it since Sunday afternoon. That is JUST INSANE.
KAKUfrank
(LOL M_q, you're the man mehn. Give it to the resident Lukaku 'expert' will ya ;) McQuinnChels) Chuckles :)
StamfordDLion
Magic_quill: I wasn't the one who starting referring to other posters posts as WTF, or Nonsense. Scroll up and read the posts that you directed at me. You stink of Hypocrisy. Why did you Target Me and Call me out? I didn't call you out! As a matter of fact, I have just noticed you today on VC. Using the F Word . . . Oh how Gung-Ho chuckles. You are having a Proper Melt Down. Chuckles.
StamfordDLion
@BlueMIA, all you do is criticize Lukaku and Mikel and claim I abuse Mourinho & Torres. Change your name to BlueMORON because that is definitely not all I do. My posts speak for themself.
KAKUfrank
Kaku: I have posted as you say 50+ comments on this thread responding to posts like yours that have been directed towards me. I guess the person who can't handle other people's opinions and resorts to calling people who have not even provoked you as Cockroaches is Mighty Sane. Chuckles.
StamfordDLion
Magic: I would suggest you to wash your face as you seem like you are having a meltdown :)
StamfordDLion
Kaku: Seems like you have lost it. "BlueMORON" Seriously? Chuckles.
StamfordDLion
Today is the First time that I have noticed this member who calls himself Magic. Looks like he has a Beef with me from a Past Life. Chuckles.
StamfordDLion
Be my guest. I am not desperate to interact and engage in a debate with you. Chow.
StamfordDLion
if costa n torres find form with fab as pivot during preseason n opening matches in bpl lukaku will get scared n try a way for ouster during transfer window ... who cares if he leaves its cfc wic is imp n the team ... best of luck to him :P
gary777
Muppet?. What a Gung-Ho Member. Chuckles.
StamfordDLion
*****@BlueMIA, all you do is criticize Lukaku and Mikel and claim I abuse Mourinho & Torres. Change your name to BlueMORON because that is definitely not all I do. My posts speak for themself. KAKUfrank****** .... Wow I hope something is done. Not oby insults but now pure lies. He has been exposed and lectured how many times now? Yet he posts the same lies in slandering my name. KAKU has not posted a fact in ages recently all he is appealing to is his emotions.
BlueMIA
Not to mention KAKU has yet to prove this non sense he claims other posters are posting. In KAKU's world "non sense" = anything he doesn't like or agree with. Simple as that KAKU is god in his own eyes.
BlueMIA
I didn't say others post nonsense. It said you post nonsense you MORON.
KAKUfrank
So KAKU #1. I don't only post about Mikel and Lukaku. So you are also a strait up liar at this point. #2. Let's say you are correct,which you are not, in that that is all I post about. Then I ask you show me the "non sense" or "dribble" you claim? You are a emotional wreck go have some chamomile tea man.
BlueMIA
Nonsense because it makes you cry or what? I have got nothing but emotional replies from you, what gives?
BlueMIA
Not because it makes me cry. Why will a BlueMORON make me cry? All you post is gibberish about Mikel and Lukaku. You are the website IDIOT and the BLUEMORON. Get on with it. Am I emotional? The first time you referred to me, you referred to me as a troll and a joke. When the this webite MORON join this website. Who is a troll? Someone who posts everywhere and everything related to Chelsea or an IDIOT who post nonsense about Mikel and Lukaku all the way. Pls get out.
KAKUfrank
KAKU said it, it must be true! Nothing to back up his argument or statements. Just his own word.
BlueMIA
Why will I need argument to prove you're an idiot or MORON. Even your statements are BASELESS!!!!!
KAKUfrank
What ever you say big guy.
BlueMIA
Oh ok my bad lol I didn't even pay attention to what the acronym spells. BlueABS.
BlueMIA
My post about KAKU being a VC God got deleted. Maybe I was on to something lol....
BlueMIA
I can hold my own with anyone in a civil discussion with some added banter, but I find it very hard to stand by when someone becomes disrespectful. *SMH*
BlueABS
Call it old-fashioned values *rolleyes*
BlueABS
What is even more surprising my simple quote of *****And for all those pathological critics and cynics who find it impossible to log unto a Chelsea forum(sure you know who you are) without saying something unnecessarily untoward about the youngster who, for all intents and purposes, was only trying to secure his future, albeit publicly, this seems the perfect time to shut up, isn't it?!***** Got deleted too LOL. Yet that part of the article has not been edited out and still stands. How professional.
BlueMIA
So apparently quoting Lukaku himself is not OK just as it is not OK to quote and question a piece of the article that is just begging for trouble.
BlueMIA
I am never a part of these arguments. Where's the football.
foreign_viewer
Guys... Take a step back. Are you actually reading what you are saying here? Do you not see how childish and pathetic this is and how much it is ruining a fabulous site? Do you have any idea how long it took Merlin to build this place up to what it is and now he has to put up with this playground rubbish?

Is this really how you debate with mates? Name calling and petty point scoring?

It's embarrassing to read, it has put other members off and we've had enough and I've most especially had enough of the disrespect it shows to Merlin.

Have an opinion, fine, others don't have to agree with it, that's football. But ffs, stop the name calling and pettiness. If not, we'll start deleting accounts, not something at Vital that we like to do but enough is enough. Just talk football, you aren't going to agree on everything, so what? You all want the same for your team but see things in different ways. As said, that's football. This rubbish certainly isn't and it surely embarrasses you to be involved in such petty wars of words?

You've had your fun, now put an end to it otherwise we'll be forced to do exactly what we don't like to do and have to start removing. Merlin/us at Vital Central do not want to be put in the position of having to tell people off like little kids but if that is how you are going to continue to act, we'll have to take action, as said and most importantly it is disrespectful to a great site editor in Merlin.

So show some respect of find somewhere else to post this inane name calling drivel because he, other members and us at Vital Central have had enough. This is meant to be a grown up site for football talk. Sorry for the rant but jeez!
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