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The words "Whatever you do …do quickly" were the famous words Jesus Christ answered Judas Iscariot with when he asked Jesus at the Last supper if he was the one to betray him. The point Jesus was making was that Judas was asking a frankly insincere ridiculous question. He had already planned and purposed to sell out Jesus so Jesus was simply telling him..rather than beating around the bush, do what you have planned ASAP and be done with it so I move forward with my own agenda.

This phrase applies poignantly to the situation we now face with our player Romelu Lukaku. I have seen the spirited and often heated exchanges that all discussion on this young man engender not just here on VC but on other online discussion sites that center around Chelsea. For me however this circus needs to be resolved and and it needs to be done very very soon because what we have now is a very dangerous situation which if not well handled could derail the high hopes we all have as Chelsea fans for this season.

Let us quickly take a fast trip down memory lane to the last few days of the summer transfer window last year..we has 4 strikers on our books; Lukaku, Eto O, El Nino and Ba. Lukaku had featured in our preseason tour and was our top goal scorer then. He had looked decent and it was a foregone conclusion for those of us not privy to the inner workings in the club that he would be one of our strikers for the first team. We then had the Euro Champions Club cup match and we saw him brought on as a sub late on as we were on the verge of what would have been a historic win over a Bayern Muncih team that had just completed the first treble in the history of the Bundesliga. His defensive lapse and lack of attention allowed Javier Martinez ghost into our penalty box on the right flank and score an equalizing goal at the very last second of extra time after we had played so heroically 10 v 11 against the best team in the world from much of the second half onwards. It got worse for Lukaku as he then delivered a tame poor PK as our last designated PK taker that Manuel Neuer saved while barely having to move from his central position on the goal line. I was one of many then who leapt to the young lads defense and questioned why the young man had to have been saddled with such a responsibility when there were veterans like JT there in the pitch. (Let us put aside for a minute that Bayern included a fellow youngster in their designated takers; Xherdan Shaqiri who dispatched his kick with aplpmb past our towering Petr Cech). Fast forward a few days hence with barely a day left in the transfer window Lukaku is sent on season long loan to Everton (as we learn later requested by himself). The reasons and motivations behind his request are not important to me there are two points in this that are important;

1. Jose's initial plan had been to keep Lukaku in our first team then..maybe as one of a 4 man striker force as Jose had decided late that it was not safe loaning out Ba to the Gunners who had just acquired the assist machine called Mesut Ozil lest we play an unwitting hand is strengthening the gunners title aspirations.
2. Because of Lukaku`s choice we ended up thus loaning out our best true striker (and the stats for the season bore this out though I knew and said so even before the formal season began that as a goal scorer he was better than all the three we retained) while keeping three others who struggled mightily.

Many reasons can be adduced as to why we did not win the BPL last year despite our stupendous record against the top 7 clubs in the BPL..despite our securing six points each against the top two teams at the leagues end, despite having the best defensive record in the league and despite boasting the goalie with the second highest number of clean sheets but to me it boiled down to one simple fact. We could not score goals when they were needed. Compared to the first two finishers in the BPL we were poor at goal scoring and our strikers were the major culprits. It is easy to speak in hindsight and look smart which is often said to be 20/20 but one could argue that had things gone differently..had Lukaku been patient and stayed with us last season not only would he still have made the Belgium NT and been the starting striker given Benteke's season ending injury but he would easily have been the best of our 4 strikers. His added goals to our squad may have been enough to get us those goals we lacked in tight spots and may have been enough to move us from 3rd to the BPL title. The margin of error between the BPL winners and us was that narrow. In my mind we lost eventually ( and this applies not only to the BPL but also why we bowed out of every other competition we engaged in last year) because of our way inferior strike force compared to the competition we faced. That to me was the bottom line. Our team balance was good, we had an A plus defence, a top 5 goalie and an easily top 5 manager but lost because of our strike force.

Now fast forward to present day. We have made a huge upgrade in securing the signature of Diego Costa and that is a big deal but let us not fool ourselves..he alone is not enough to enable us secure the BPL or challenge to win all the other tournaments we are going to be competing in. We have signed the Drogs and that is good but let us be real; he is to play the Miro Klose role for us..very limited, very carefully planned cameo and super sub appearances; nothing more. A 36 yr old Drogs who is very likely in the last year of his playing career is not the viable back up to Costa that we need.

How about El nino you ask? Maybe you missed the last 3 years of that soap opera but I would refer you quickly to the miss he had today against NK OLimpjia Ljubljana and end that conversation with the term "Nuff said" that we often use here in the States. Suffice it so say that no matter what you may feel about Lukaku or the Drogs..if it were any of them in El Nino`s position on that cross from Ake it is goal; end of story. Misses like that in the BPL, in the Capitol one up, in the FA cup and in the champions league will be the difference between advancing and getting knocked out. The bottom line is this..should Costa get injured or have to serve a lengthy ban for any reason if we lose Lukaku between today and September 1 unless it happens very soon and we act very quickly we end up with El Nino as our first and only viable regular back up. If that does not give you nightmares I have to doubt your love for our club seriously.

There is no point discussing the pros and cons of Lukaku the person. That has been done ad nauseaum but the constant chatter regarding his future in the media helps no one. Just yesterday, the Wolfsburg president confirmed that they had an interest in him and that inquiries were being made. Similarly Roberto Martinez of Everton asked by one of his clubs fans about Lukalu answered in the affirmative that he would be joining the club. All this smoke without a denial from us his supposed parent club cannot but mean that there is some fire here. Whether it is us or Lukaku or his agent doing all the hawking this boy is being hawked around let us not kid ourselves. Which means that the reality is very great that he will leave before sept 1.

However you feel about Lukaku the person let us all be objective for a moment and we should all be in agreement that Lukaku the player is miles better as a goal scorer than El Nino is; period and full stop. Furthermore, if we sell him we lose one of those promising, high value association trained player spots. This essentially shrinks our squad depth considerably and may well force us to retain one of our youngsters who is simply not ready for the first team prime time and so misses a loan that would have been in their best interests. I hope everyone can appreciate the domino effects here. Most of all though if we sell Lukaku we essentially are back to our strikers mess of last year except that we now have Costa to replace Ba which yes is a huge improvement. El nino remains the same except a year older, Drogs at 36 would provide great team support and mentoring but can hardly be expected to give much more than Eto O did last year.

My point is this..if We dispose of Lukaku and Jose and our management staff think we are fine as regards strikers with Costa, El nino and the drogs..i will humbly but vehemently disagree. I will go so far to say here categorically that with that strike force not only wont we win the BPL or champions league but we will be in serious danger of another season without any trophies which could place Jose`s job security in serious jeopardy. We lost last season because of inferior forwards and other than Diego Costa if we release Lukaku without a quality replacement we are essentially going to repeat the same mistake. Those who know me know I love Drogba..he is the Chelsea player I hold in highest esteem second only to the incomparable Gian Franco Zola but at this phase of his career to expect him to be a substantive back up to Costa is beyond laughable. I honestly expect absolutely nothing from El nino and I am just being bluntly honest. The only reason he is still wearing Chelsea blue is that the wages we pay him are so ludricous we cant fool anyone out there to take him even if we forgo any transfer fee…it is that bad.

Left to me despite all the bad blood and all that has been said and all the water under the bridge I would want us to retain Lukaku for at least this season to give him the chance to fly or flop in Chelsea blue..he cannot be worse than El Nino has been for us and can end up being a huge upgrade (which is what I feel). Even if he insists on leaving we should enforce his contract for this year to allow our home grown/association trained complement of players improve and then next year if all else fails sell him outside the BPL for a profit and get a proper replacement after Drogs retires to join our coaching staff.

If however as is seeming more likely it is now a fait accompli for Lukaku to leave this transfer window what we must not do is repeat what happened last season and wait till late august to sort this out. We need to end the uncertainty ASAP. Get him out of the team discussion and speculation immediately. Sell him asap to Wolfsburg for a small profit where he can join his buddy KDB and be out of our hair then with automatic alacrity and urgency secure a proper back up goal scorer for Costa..someone like Bony or Firmino (Griezeman is already gone to Atletico and Remy is already gone to Liverpool). Whatever we intend to do with and about Lukaku we need to do very quickly because I think how and when this decision is handled will have major implications for how our season unfolds and how well we do as far as achieving our preseason lofty goals. Jose please learn from your past mistakes..dont leave this to late in the transfer window; make the decisions and act swiftly while viable plan "B"s are still available out there.
The floor is yours Blue nation. KTBFFH!!!

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The Journalist

Writer: GabeU Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday July 27 2014

Time: 8:13PM

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" he cannot be worse than el nino " -- fact!
99 % perfect have said it all Gabeu! thanks! We need to keep lukaku, it will be an error keeping torres and selling/loaning lukaku..this lad is homegrown already,we bought him for about 18m pounds and now want to sell him for 20m (according to reports) that's a loss for me....Lukaku has to stay he is just 21 and will become better if he works Gabeu said lukaku can not be worse than torres for chelsea,i am so certain he will score more than the 5league goals el nino scored or even 8 (which has been torres' highest league goals in a chelsea shirt for a particular season....
If Lukaku wants to stay, then let him stay & be second choice... If he doesn't want to stay, let's sell him to some other league outside EPL for a profit... If the Club feel he isn't needed, let them sell him quickly & sign a better replacement...
You can talk as much bull as you want but Torres will be the best forward we have this season.
Nobody can say that the lad would score goals at Chelsea, until he actually scores goals at Chelsea. The universe holds no law of constants as regards footballers. One may succeed in one club, and flop miserably at another. We know about this here at CFC. (in a big way) Too many assumptions about what Lukaku would do here. No offense to the author, but I think you made your point well in the first few paragraphs, and then strolled off the path... (seriously, no offense, it's a constructive criticism)
Lukaku can score goals ... Torres cant ...enuff said
@solid your comments are well taken. As for thebreeze you may be experienced in "talking bull" as you put it..i dont partake in cheap talk just for the sake of it. By the end of May 2015 we will all be here and we will see what El Nino has contributed to the course of Chelsea FC by then. Hopefully i remember your cheap shot then and you are still around on this site then to own it and submit your mea culpa like a man. Take note, i have not questioned the lads effort or hard work..i am stating clear facts as regards end results and productivity in the most important stats that define a sriker namely actual goals scored and assists. For the prize we have paid for him and the wages he gets to be a premier goal scorer for us El Nino has been a huge disappointment and i dont see that changing this coming season nor any time soon. For Chelsea's sake i would be glad to be wrong and eat some humble pie as i have done on other matters in the past but i am a realist first and on the evidence of the last 3 yrs i am pretty sure nothing will change in this respect.
Jose confirms andreas christensen and Nathan ake to join the first team,safe to say ake will play as back up to fellipe luis (as he has been playing left back in training) and christensen will be our fourth choice back up while swift,bamford,chalobah to go on loan..solanke,izzy brown,boga to remain in u21 but will also train with the first about lewis baker? Jose didn't mention him specifically
Great Article ! at least I see people thinking like me . I agree 100%
warren harris
Lukaku must stay, and King Didier is here to help with that. Goodbye El Nino I hope you never wear blue again.
What ever the decision is it has to be made and both parties have to come to good terms. Lukaku talks a lot and has a big ego without having done anything special for Chelsea yet. He could become a real good player for Chelsea but he also may not. Ba was a goal scorer at New Castle and that did not transfer over well for Chelsea.
Did someone just mentioned my name in his epistle?
Just because someone has "potential" it does not mean it will ever come, or at least maybe not for Chelsea. I am happy if he stays and fights and proves himself instead of requesting loans and then talking *****.
But seriously cortouis has talked about how he doesn't want to sit on the bench,how he has no emotional ties to chelsea etc and yet no one hates him or says he talks too much then why all the hatred on lukaku? I am not saying lukaku will score lots of goals for chelsea and it is not certain he will but one thing is certain,he wouldn't be worse than torres..torres has been given the chance to prove himself since he signed for chelsea,lukaku deserves the same at least 1 year to prove if he can score for chelsea or not
Lukaku is crap. Even with 20 goals he is not Chelsea quality, first touch is unchelsea, passing very unchelsea , striking totally not what Chelsea need.what chelsea lacks in th young man is not about goals , but that h is not the type of player that Chelsea needs. Our scouts actually committed terrible mistake bringing him to Stamford bridge in th first place. He could score goals against Chelsea in future but does it mean all the players that hav scored against Chelsea deserves to b playing for Chelsea.
@Hazard11 - I beg to differ with you, sir. If you read the articles, I hated on Courtois plenty. The difference is, Courtois' ***** talking is over. It is now his time to "nut up or shut up", as they say. And believe me, if he doesn't deliver the goods, I'll be the first to go back to my previous stance, when he wasn't looking out for the best interests of his parent club. Until then, he is a Chelsea player, in good standing. Everyone (who is willing) gets their chance to do their talking on the pitch.
@Uzoegheli - I tend to side with your sentiments, but if management wants Lukaku on the first team, he must be given his respect. He doesn't earn chances through public opinion - he earns them through obtaining the trust of the board. That's a process that I don't understand, but I trust that the people who make the choices do - and will do whatever is equitable for all involved to correct any wrong choices.
The problem I have is that whenever Lukaku is talked about...its always the stats thrown around. IMHO players like Jovetic, Chichorito, Welbeck would easily be scoring 20 goals per season at a West Brom, Everton and Newcastle. I feel that Lukaku belongs in this group together with Bony, Remy, Adebayor and Sturridge who will good in this league. And with a little luck and push can have some breakout seasons as well. My simple question to you Gabeu is who do you think is more talented out of Lukaku, Sturridge, Mario and Jovetic?
Interesting question OCblues. If i were to hazard an answer to your question i would say that the most naturally talented of the group you mentioned is actually Mario Ballotelli. That boy is blessed with incredible talent..the problem is his attitude stinks and he isnt a hard worker. If your question were who do you think is most likely to succeed when their respective careers are all said and done i would say Sturridge. He has shown he can produce and score goals playing centrally and as a wing forward. He has also shown that he can put forward the required hard work and honestly unless people have selective memory compared to Lukaku the boy was a saint while with us. He never said one bad word about chelsea and even when he left the worst he has said is that Liverpool is a big club (which i honestly dont disagree with) and to say that El Nino while with us still essentially pinned for Liverpool (which i was not surprised to hear honestly). Having talent and then using it to the utmost are two very different things. Any one who saw George Best or more recently Paul Gascoigne play know what it is means to have incredible God given talent and yet to blow it because of off the pitch issues and unfortunately i think Mario Ballotelli though so talented and physically gifted doesnt have the discipline nor focus to ever get to the heights of players like Zlatan, Ronaldo or Messi. Jovetic who you mentioned i think will never reach his potential because his body will betray him..the number of injuries he has had to deal with already remind me of Alexandre Pato and i feel more is to come. Lukaku for me is a black box..i honestly feel if he would buckle down and do the hard work with a coach like Jose or Diego Simeone or even Antonio Conte this guy could be something really special in the next 5 yrs or so. He has the physical gifts, and physique for the position. He has the brash self confidence and arrogant streak that virtually all top goal scorers have and he has the knack and nose for scoring goals which is largely innate and cant be taught. what he lacks is discipline, the commitment to work on his of the ball movement both on offense and defense as well as first touch and passing. These are all skills that can be taught and learnt.
@GabeU,Well the main fact from today's game was at 1-1 in the 64th minute, Torres received the ball just inside the area on the left hand side and hit a terrific shot which the goalkeeper could only push out to Zouma,who scored. As you so aptly put it,the clear fact is Fernando played a major part in us winning the game with that strike on target.
@GabeU. If thats your answer then my advice is do not waste time on Lukaku. A club such as ours makes stars but its a combination of player and coach. Take away Jose and there is no DD and Frank. It was like night and day for JT with Rafa and DD with Scolari. There is a certain amount of effort and patience for most players to excel. Its therefore up to Jose whom he wants to be patient with. I threw in Jovetic and Mario to make it clearer that there is enough talent out there. Nico ran away from competition at Arsenal and his talent meant nothing. Henry came along. I am not sure there is a talent difference between Origi, Bentenke and Lukaku....except when Chelsea fans talk potential. But a more talented Jovetic is 4th choice at City right now and 3 yrs is a longtime to wait....unless if we were talking De Lima or Romario here. Falcao scores goals but the leadership of Diego won Atleti the league. That is what separated DD from say Adebayor. That is why I will choose DD over Henry anytime. At that point its not just about scoring stats but who will lead the line better.
Strikers has to score nd drogba is nt beta than henry. Drogba is one of my all time favourite players bt i have to be objective nd sincere. He is very good bt even he is no henry
Predicted final squad - Courtois-Cech-Schwarzer-Azpilicueta-Ivanovic-Cahill-Terry-Zouma-Christensen-Felipe Luis-Ake-Matic-Ramires-Mikel-vanginkel-Fabregas-Lewis Baker- Schurrle-Salah-Oscar-Willian-Hazard-Diego Costa- F Torres- D Drogba
Lukaku has the potential but He not yet good enough to lead the lines and he is way too arrogant . Rather than having this devil dance in an out i think he shuld go where his heart lies and that looks to be Everton . A average player he is and Everton is a decent enough club that fits his profile . There is nothing more to say about Torres . Yes , we love him and want him to do well but you need to know when to let go and put ur strong foot forward . Torres is unreliable but he always looks willing , trying to do his best but it just doesnt work for him in a chelsea shirt . Its better to move past him . A more ideal scenerio will be to say our goodbyes to both Torres n Lukaka and get a pretty reasonable sum from their sale and get a more talented player lik Balotelli who is very young and will improve and give his all if he goes where he is loved and Chelsea is a club that do know how to show love to their players doing good or Bad . We cant take chances . We know Balotelli is good enough and can be snatched up for a very reasonable amount right now . If we have Costa , Balotelli n Drogba ... we will definitely be winning at least 2 trophies minimum.
Tekszy Maloney
With all due respect, Tekszy Maloney, absolutely NO to Balotelli.
Why's willing to buy Torres and pay him the wages that he gets at Chelsea? Torres Stays
As solid7 mentioned earlier, its not a given that Lukaku will be banging goals for Chelsea. How can one ASSERTIVELY SAY that he will start banging goals for Chelsea? Apart from one preseason goal, Lukaku has never scored a goal for Chelsea.
For Christ's Sake, hope we sell Lukaku to Everton for a Good Price. He will get plenty of chances over there and the competition for a spot at Everton for him will be minimum unlike here in Chelsea.
Lukaku will STAY with us next season.
Superb article as usual Gabe U. The "foolish one" as alienated every power broker in Chelsea and I think Mou has been given a free hand to do what he likes with him. That is why there as been no comment from the club on his position since. They are leaving him to stew in his own juice and I suspect that's there would be some serious talk and laid down rules on him by Mourinho if he ever wants wear a Chelsea Jersey again. However he would need to prove to Mourinho that he is worth all the trouble in training and friendlies if he is to earn that serious talk. Mourinho has shown that he can forgive a lot cough Fabregas cough if you have what he needs. Halfway, he is already there...he is big , fast , strong and scores goals. The other half which containsa stinking attitude, LOUD MOUTH, lack of respect to club , overblown ego d a ffoolish sense of entitlement , lack of intestinal fortitude and backbone to fight for his place have to be dropped at the gates of Stamford or everywhere he joins up with the team or else he is out for ever. His little personal effects would be mailed to him wherever he ends up
If JM thinks he can control Balotelli, he is my preffered option for the second pick striker. Though, if that was the case, any movement in that direction would have happened by now. As for Lukaku, I am really worried, if we sell for 20-30m pounds with add ons and in the future he becomes a top striker worth in access of 50m pounds. I feel, if we are to sell, it should only be for top bucks (30m pounds + add ons), or if we keep owning 50% of him, or to incert a buy back option, or finally, to give him + money (around 20m pounds) for players like Koke and Pogba.
We dont have HG players who can contribute to First team, so, Lukaku will stay, Else, we will not squad depth. It will be interesting to see if TC qualifies as HG
I don't think any true blue fan will want Lukaku out. However, when you have a situation whereby a player of Lukaku's age tries to take the position of the manager thereby ranting where he should play and how he should be played, you have no other choice than throw him out. HE has talent, yes, he is young and promising, yes, will he be a top hit at CFC, yes, but is he that reasonable to keep his mouth shut and do the talking on the pitch, NO! Players of Lukaku's calibre are team wreckers. They tend to tell the management who should play and who shouldn't like Ghana did at the world cup. Players of Lukaku's calibre are not meant to play for a team like CFC, because CFC is not for anybody's family member to tell us what you want and how you want and how you want. A player who instead of speaking to thw gaffer about his concerns rather does that to his 'course mate' (journalist). Why do we have to even waste our time on a player who is not ready to fight for the team. From what he has been saying saying to his course mate, you will have to deduce from it that this guy is not a Chelsea player. We need players who have are ready to sacrifice for the team not personal gainers and selfish monsters like Lukaku.
Few questions for Lukaku. 1- Does he know how Drogba made it at Chelsea? 2- Does he know why CFC still love Torres even though he is a liability? 3- Does he know how to be a legend in a club or be a star? 4- Does he think ranting plays part in being a star? I don't even mind shipping this journalist out for 1k. We need players not journalist.
Few questions for Lukaku. 1- Does he know how Drogba made it at Chelsea? 2- Does he know why CFC still love Torres even though he is a liability? 3- Does he know how to be a legend in a club or be a star? 4- Does he think ranting plays part in being a star? I don't even mind shipping this journalist out for 1k. We need players not journalist.
@deepBlue.... throw a player out just because he has some self belief? some talent and we want to make the same mistake that Fergie made with Pogba?
If we let Lukaku go it will be a massive failure on the part of management
Question for Deep Blue...what would you give to have Sturridge back at Chelsea ?
To get rid of of Torres , I am seriously starting to think I would give him away for free just to get his wages off the books
@deep blue .. if you love a player regardless of whether hes a liability and dosnt / cant score ... how about you volunteer to pay his wages??? Drogba was and is loved because he did his job ..he scored goals...he would have been and still be loved regardless of how much he ranted in the press or media as long as he did hid job scored goals... I would do the same for any player --Torres , Sturridge , Lukaku ...anyone...dosnt matter what else they do...why should Torres be paid his massive wages ..if he dosnt do his job ? his job??? Not to run around the pitch for 90 mins...but to score goals ...
Torres miss last night shows the problem...its not like he can even blame the lack of service ...he was matter of inches from the open goal...and he still conspires to miss an easier goal than the one he missed at Old Trafford
to me , after giving him more than sufficient time to get his act together..he shows himself to be an utter disgrace to teh Chelsea shirt ... and you would have him over Lukaku?? Ha ha
Lukaku - a striker ... does he do his job? ...His job - to score goals...FACT Lukaku scores goals .. recognised by everyone in football perhaps except your good self... I dont care how much he rants..he can rant all day long for me ... hes worth every penny of his wages... Torres simply isnt ...and we lost Sturridge because Torres was given priority over him ...SMH
Sturridge ..another "LOUDMOUTH"??? He did his job....what was his job ? oh yeah he scored goals ..maybe not consistently ..but he did it and still is...right now would Liverpool sell Sturridge for £50 million ? debateable ..I think they might , might not .
Chelsea is a club that I love too well an also with their dicision on players, but not of this decision of sellin Lukaku, it will be a very big mistake for chelsea.instead of sellin him why not sale E'nino and give the young man a chance to prove himsalf.
Succes Paul
@I agree with you Blue_Mel, Lukaku has got self belief, talent and ambition. Its ridiculous that some people just want to get rid of him because he has spoken out and been critical of CFC. On that basis, we should never have signed Eto or Fabregas, who were both highly critical of us, our playing style and our manager, on more than one occasion. Getting rid of Lukaku would leave us short up front once again and will be the difference in becoming 1st and 2nd next season. Drogba is the perfect man to round off the rough edges of one of the best young, raw talented strikers in world football.
Well written @gabeu. The simple summary is to make it known if lukaku would stay or sell him quick and get a good replacement before its too late if he is to be sold. I have to say i agree with you 110% on that. For me, this lukaku situation has gone beyond what we had with sturridge. Only thing Chelsea fans can or have ever used against sturridge was that he is/was selfish. Even when he had to be overlooked while on the subs bench again and again because he wouldn't sign an extension, he never said anything against us. Hence he deserves my respect and i wouldn't mind having him back. But Lukaku is one i am ready to give a chance in Chelsea but that's only because there is something called 'benefit of doubt'. Else, if mourinho would go ahead and sell him and get mario balo in his place, i will be one of the most excited lad on VC. And if lukaku goes on and excel like sturridge if i believe he will. Unlike sturridge i wouldnt want him back for anything. Finally, its mou's decision to make, i would most likely be fine with whichever way it goes. That's my take.
Good Article GabeU,can't say i agree with most of the article,but the one thing we do agree on is "whatever you quickly",as regards Lukaku. Tried my best to avoid the Lukaku discussion on forums,pubs,social media,and even at home. Its a discussion that's gone on for the last 3 seasons,so I'd be delighted if its sorted out asap. First and foremost this is Chelsea FC,this isn't Anderlect,this isn't West Brom,this isn't Everton,this isn't Belgium,this is Chelsea FC. If you wear the Chelsea blue then i want to see you give your best,i want to see you play for the shirt,and for the do that,you earn my respect. I know it's easy to criticize Torres for obvious reasons,but no one on this site can fault his hardwork,dedication and passion,he gives his all whenever he's on the pitch,and he's earned my respect in that regard. Hardwork and dedication(fighters) is something lots of top coaches admire in players over talent,anyone who's followed Jose would know he regards fighters highly. Here's what Jose had to say about Costa...“I’ve known Diego since he came to Portugal from Brazil at the age of 17,” “He is a guy whose life was not easy, nobody gave him anything for free and he always had to fight a lot. He is afraid of nothing, ready for everything." Why wouldn't he? A player that was signed by Athletico Madrid from Braga in 2006,loaned to Braga,and then to Celta vigo,and then to Albacete,then later sold to Real valladoid(with a buy back option). Signed back in 2010 and was a 3rd choice striker to Forlan and Aguero,and later on second choice to Falcao. But he was patient,and waited for his time,and fought his way to the top. Athletico Madrid have produced great strikers,but none has had the mental strength to drive Athletico Madrid to the La liga title,guess who did? Yup! Does that sound quite like our very own Lukaku,but he's hardly a fighter... A player that says "You know Chelsea: every year they buy a new top striker," "I remember me coming into the dressing room last year and seeing Samuel Eto'o and Demba Ba and going: 'Whoah! What's happening here?' "But no problem. Many clubs are interested in me." A player that regards Ba and Eto'o as big competition isn't ready to fight,now he has Costa,Drogba and Torres to compete with,that's a bigger competition and I'm pretty sure he'll bail out. Understandably the lad is looking out for himself,but not when the manager admires players that puts the club first,team mates second before themselves. Really don't get the ideology of keeping or forcing a player who isn't ready to stay and fight for a spot. I like the lad,but he cuts across as a kid who's always had things his way,but honestly that's a wrong mentality,bcos all top players fight their way to the top. Keeping a player who isn't happy rubs off on certain members of the squad,same reason we sold Mata,and De Bruyne...If you have a fighter in the squad,it certainly rubs off on others,players want to give their all too,and fight as well...Azpi was a good example for many of the bit players last season. Always put in your best when you get the chance. So if Lukaku isn't ready to stay and fight,then I'd suggest his sold,and yeah he may come good for some other club,but not everyone can cut it out at Chelsea,especially strikers.
@Blueheart, those two you mentioned were our opposition in those case and one could understand if they said those things. This same fabregas has not said one bad word against barca even after the way he had been treated. Am struggling, please can you refer me to other players who has done what lukaku did and the club found it very pleasing??
Good one @gabeu. If Lukaku is sold, as reports are heavily indicating the possibility, then we need a replacement and a good one at that. Torres and Didier as back up to Costa isn't good enough. The club's silience about Lukaku's future is an indication in itself. I just hope this matter is resolved with time to spare, and not dragged till the end of the window. Knowing how we operate in transfer windows, especially the last few, we have tended to make a major f**ck up every window. We are due one now, after the solid business conducted by the club so far. Just hope we have learned from our mistakes.
Torres just might come good. We'll see after pre-season, but his hard work has to pay off.
@kolagold, I don`t find it pleasing, but Lukaku is obviously finding it difficult in not playing for who he stated were the biggest club in the world. He has done enough to warrant a chance at Chelsea, especially if like us, he is looking at Torres and wondering why. He`s young, full of himself and maybe spoken out of turn in an unprofessional way. But why cut off our nose to spite our face, give the guy some breathing space and a chance, but Jose needs to be a little more understanding too. Lukaku`s mistake in letting Bayern equalise in the Super Cup, should not destroy his career with us. As for other players that were often critical about the clubs that they played for, were Souness for Liverpool and Keane and Ince for Man United, but all were retained because of their value on the pitch.
someone send a PM to Jose about not selling Lukaku or if he does that we need to buy a striker again... Bamford or Solanke can not be trusted in big matches. Good Article Gabeu. Would like to see more from you, can you please write some comparative article on Oscar and Fabregas like complete SWOT analysis ?
@blueheart, i'm with you in giving lukaku a benefit of doubt. however, those players you mention said those things midway/twilight of their career not before they even got started
What I see about this Lukaku issue is that some fans here who have an obsession for big name signings and young talents in other clubs but never believe in and strongly detest our own rising young talents, are hiding under the "Lukaku talks too much" gibberish to feed their obsessions. Even if Lukaku was completely mute and won't utter a single word, these guys would still find another excuse to bash him with a passion. It's a trend on this site so I'm not surprised... Sturridge was hated and bashed just as much if not more, he was called selfish, arrogant, lazy, etc.. just because people were obsessed with and craved for names like Falcao, Cavani… at that time. You just know by the way the "Lukaku talks too much" claim is being ridiculously blown out of proportion, that it's only being used as a camouflage... Lukaku has not even spoken a word in over a month now... Some here talk of fight.... how does a 19, 20 or 21 yr old lad fight when there are about 3 senior players ahead of him? Fight for what? Does it even make any sense fighting on the bench while his time/career/development waste away. A young striker/player can only fight if there's something to fight for or if the slightest ray of hope exists. It's a different case if it's a young player that a manager signed out of special interest and believe's in.. Other than that, all this talk of fight are just mere words spoken out of a lack of understanding of what the true/real situation is like... You know, it's very easy to talk and lay down rules/expectations for others... It also doesn't make any sense to assume that a 21 yr old lad who has achieved a lot for himself and fought his way to sign for Chelsea, his dream club, is not a fighter..
This is the BEST article i have seen here in a long time. The writing LEGEND is back !
I'd rather have the "lazy & clever" (Balotelli/Lukaku) than "diligent and stupid "(Torres).
What we really want is a backup that is "diligent & clever". Costa has that temperance issue plus we have a lot of matches.
@Latun...weird to see you still do the side talks "some people here speak of fight"...haha! Anyways,when did competition become a bad thing for a top football club? We are a top side fighting for titles every season,and competing at the highest level,and if you as a player,young or old want to get a chance you have to make the best out of the mins you get. How many top sides competing at all front for different trophies lack competition up front? The first stage has to do with your mentality,if you're going into a club with the mentality of walking right into the first team,then your expectations will be smacked to pieces. So what if Lukaku is 19,20,21...Varane was 19 when he benched Pepe,its all about your mentality. I speak first for my club,and if a player isn't ready to fight to get a shirt,and isn't committed to the course then he can leave if he chooses to. Let's be clear on something,Lukaku was going to be given a chance,and he got decent amount of mins before the Super Cup game with Bayern...I'd reiterate this,Lukaku requested for a loan,so what should Chelsea have done,turn down his request and keep an unhappy player who wants first team football? What Lukaku has done with his time at Brom and Everton,is show that he deserves to be in the squad,but he needs to show that he deserves to start,and that can only happen with the mins he gets on the pitch.
Like I've said in the past,I rate the lad,and feel he's got a strong prospect to become a top striker. So what would be my reasoning walking into a Chelsea squad with Drogba,Costa and Torres? If I think negatively; I'd be banging my head wondering how i was going to get game time,wondering my position among the lots(who apparently are top strikers and winners),and the next thought would be to leave to a team where atleast first team is guaranteed or the competition is less. But if I thought positively; I'd stay a season not for just mins,but the prospect of learning from Drogba and Costa who's game is a little bit similar to mine,applying the little have learned in the mins I get and making sure that i give enough to show that I deserve to climb up the rankings among the strikers.
*****Even if Lukaku was completely mute and won't utter a single word, these guys would still find another excuse to bash him with a passion.***** Typical post. Let me ask how you came to that conclusion when last season all you and your buddies did was whine and moan.
Maybe projecting you and your group's stance on Mourinho?
Again, very eloquently put nelyvanile. Ty sir.
Hope Chelsea sell him. Potential Excess Baggage.
Lukaku is not Drogba, RVP, Rooney,Tevez,Benzema or even Sturridge . He is not in the elite class of top strikers. We talk as though he is one top gun but If anyone watched him at Everton its very clear he is a very average kid and maybe we can give him a little more credit cause of his age an all but it doesn't seem as though he can do the job at Chelsea . His holdup play is poor many at times and he lacks a decent first touch . All n all Torres is sincerely still a better player other than putting the ball n the net. Lukaku is simply being hyped by the media . The only thing we can say is that there is still room for improvement cause he is young and still learning . Another loan move wouldn't be so bad . I remember a game he had at Everton last seaon where they were 3 to beat 1 and all he neeed to do was give a good pass and he screwed it up with the pass . Take a close look at lukaku before all the hype . Boga is a better player with his control and decision making on the pitch and this is without missing words. At best you can get more from lukaku only as a sub with 15-20mins left just lik he was used at Belgium . Please I have watched lukaku over n over with keen interest and i know what i am saying when i say he is very average . Wellbeck, Callejon, Moratta are the kind of players in his bracket and all the players mentioned are ahead of him in their play . Will he develop ? yes . he has the athleticism n potential but he is not there yet and that is smth that we all seem to forget when accessing this situation.
Tekszy Maloney
What is questionable for me in Lukaku is his inability to improve his first touch since he was 16. I'd like him to stay and fight for his place and improve in the process, but inferring from what we know so far of the kid, it ain't gonna happen. As I said somewhere else.. he is very welcome to leave and have a lazy bromance with De Bruyne at Wolfsburg or wherever the heck he wants to if he is not ready to dig in deep and work and fight. I couldn't care less even if he is better than Messi, which he is not.
@ Manloney's baloney - if Lukaku is so useless why has RM (Ancelotti) set him as their #2 target after Falcao then ?
If David Luiz is so error prone and at the end of his CFC career we rather play him in the mid then why did PSG pay 50 mill and he is in the starting 11 for Brazil?
If Mikel is so great and "solid" how come no club would pay 20 mill for him?
How come Torres is one of the best paid players of Chelsea and broke the transfer fee record of the time he was bought?
Why is Ibrahamovic so great if Barca got rid of him and rather hung on to Sanchez.
Lmao somebody has really lost it this time.
Grow up kid
Blue_Mel: Real is after Lukaku? Post a Credible Source.
Lukaku will have to sit on a Bigger Bench at Real than right here in Chelsea
This guy McQ or Magic_Q is quite a character. I wonder how many times he has created a new profile on VC. Why bother showing up after you have been BOOTED out?
Is the Independent credible enough ?
another report suggests Juventus are interested
How about Sky News? With Credible Quotes too.
I know Everton are Interested in Lukaku and I have read actual quotes and also heard actual quotes from Everton's management member.
I know its teh Mail l, but ..
GabeU, you've said it all. You are a true blue to the bone & i love u for that. Nothing more to say
chelsea in abuja
Real Madrid has only Benzema as a true striker to be honest. They are surely in the market for a back up to Benzema, and given how thin they are in that department, it might as well be Lukaku. It would be a good league for him. If he wants to go, I'd loan him to Real as Spanish league might be good for him. First he would have to sign a contract extension though.
The thing you have to remember is if we sell lukaku, we cannot seriously think that having costa, Torres and drogba will be enough to win us the league. It's brilliant having costa but we know the problems with Torres, our back up isn't good enough, and that's the thing, any decent striker that comes to replace lukaku would be just that, back up to costa. I would have loved mandzukic but credit to him he wanted to play and went to atletico. I'd buy bony but that comes with the same problem. Tricky situation. And if Everton want lukaku then we should ask for Barkley in any deal.
Lukaku is such a big mouth probably has talked himself out of the club... But if its true, Costa gets injured all we have left is Drogba since Torres is less then crap, So selling Lukaku? We would probably won the league this year if we hadn't loaned him, make that mistake again?
Tim Kennar
As pointed out before....everyone discussing Lukaku merely gives stats without discussing his actual talent. At 21, young strikers like Henry, Kanu, Kluivert, Suarez, RVP, Nico and even Sturridge are good ball players who just have not developed enough muscle to deal with the physical defenders. However they will be skilfull enough to drible, strong ball control skills etc. At that point you just wait for them to grow. That to me is where the potential is! I could have stood Lukaku next to a 21 year old Sturridge who still had not been given any EPL chances and or even a 21 year old Suarez and chosen Suarez and Sturridge before him. However Lukaku is big and you hope he will be battering defenders. But do I ever see that potential to start for a Real Madrid, United, Barca and I do not see it! And thats where I question our 'potential' claim. He is not a once in a lifetime Romario, De Lima type. We could have taken Carlton Cole, Defoe, Bent, Bentenke, Chicharito, Jovetic, Dzeko and converted them into a 20 goal strikers easily. I however think we need a bit more and to me this smells of Torres all over again. We are looking at what if and or what can instead of what we can get. I mean all of you are not even saying 2-3 years but 5 years from now. Lukaku went into the WC as a starter and he was upstaged by a 19 year old unknown. And Origi has far more potential than Lukaku for me. Here was a kid who could link well with Eden and KDB, was comfortable on the ball but not as developed as Lukaku. Who has more potential there? I saw Juventus stick with Trezeguet while missing Henry...only thing they looked at was stats. My point is that stats are not enough to gauge potential. By now we should very well be able to gauge Lukaku's potential as it pertains to his skill level and perhaps with comparisons too.
One of the great ironies of the debate about whether Lukaku is good enough or not is that if he stays in England for his whole career and keeps scoring at the same rate he could comfortably become the second highest Premier League goalscorer of all time behind Alan Shearer.
Blue_Mel: I do check out Daily Mail to have a good laugh. Their transfer stories and predictions mostly Fail. I wouldn't take their words seriously TBH.
Cobham: you are talking about possibility. its also possible that he may fail to meet expectations in the coming days.
It is still potential but he has scored around 15 EPL goals a season for 2 seasons now. He has already proved he is not a one season wonder.
@blue mel: do you honestly believe ancelotti is interested in lukaku? Yay!
@Demmyblues - if Ancelotti is truly interested in Lukaku, then maybe Roman wasn't so far off base in sacking him. I say that as a fan of Ancelotti...
Jose has come out on the direction he is going to take. Solanke, Baker and co are scheduled to take over.
why did we brought DD for lads? its becoz to help solenke and lukaku,and also backup . mou doesnot believe in torres but roman dosen't want to sold torres becoz he loves him. torres doesn't start single game may be in sub . so lukaku stays as 3rd or 2nd choice .
Here is something to think about. Drogba re-signs for Chelsea and immediately gets on a plane to join the touring squad. Lukaku finishes his holiday, and what does he do, he goes to his old club Anderlecht for his own private training. Now tell me who is more committed to Chelsea?
psanket: Where did you learn that DD is here to help Solenke and LUKAKU? Post a Credible Link, Quotes and Source! As far as I know, Jose has said that Drogba is a phenomenal striker and here FIRST and FOREMOST to PLAY and Contribute to the Club as a Player. Post a Link/Quote where Jose has said that Dorgba is here to HELP LUKAKU!
BlueABS: To be fair to Lukaku, none of our other Belgian players have joined the squad (Hazard, Courtois) if I am not Mistaken.
True Stamford, some will put the spin that Lukaku should be applauded for early training. We all know JT was at Cobham well before the pre-season started to get that extra fitness early on. But back to Lukaku, what better way to put a marker down for Chelsea and Jose, if Lukaku had turned up with the squad and said, I want to train early as I am fighting for my place. Now that would have been impressive!
I mean it's not like he played a huge amount of minutes for Belgium!!!
Agree with you.
Did @FS just say loan Lukaku to Real??? Lmao!!! That's an arrogant thing to say bruv!!! Real dont loan, they buy! (They are also bigger than us tbh, so why would it be a loan deal eh?))
Even Sky Sports are now talking about Lukaku to Everton for £24m. Looks like this one is more than a rumor.
@Tunez - Thanks for downplaying me like that. Yet they loaned Michael Essien from Chelsea. OOOOOPSSSS
Real Madrid also took Emmanuel Adebayor on loan from Man City.

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